#Lgbtq lotr

[showstopper35]

LOTR LGBTQ+/MOGAI HEADCANONS!

Disclaimer! This is just my personal opinion based off mainly the movies and the books, and from things the cast/Tolkien has said. Definitely not canon and just for fun!!

Frodo Baggins: He/they pronouns, graysexual aromantic. He and Sam are in a queer platonic romance. When he does feel sexual attractions, they lean towards guys.

Samwise Gamgee: He/him pronouns, pansexual panromantic. He’s a hopeless romantic who longs for a domestic life, which includes Rosie and Frodo.

Meriadoc “Merry” Brandybuck: Look at me and tell me that is not the most transmasc haircut you’ve ever seen. They/he transmac. Bisexual demiromantic.

Peregrin “Pippin” Took: The other half of the bisexual disaster duo. Both bisexual and biromantic, and gets a new crush every week. Has never been on a date in their life. They/them pronouns. Aragorn: He/him pronouns, omnisexual omniromantic. He doesn’t get crushes that often, but he does find a lot of people attractive. He thought Legolas was attractive for a while, which made him realise he has a soft spot for elves.

Legolas Greenleaf: Genderfluid and uses any pronouns. He’s free, like nature. Their sexuality is unlabelled, though he tends to lean towards more masculine-presenting people.

Gimli: He/him, bisexual panromantic. Gets almost as many crushes as Pippin. He and Legolas have an on-again, off-again relationship.

Gandalf: Wizards have no gender, he is a triple A battery: Agender, Asexual spectrum, and Aromantic spectrum. He’s also gay. He doesn’t care what pronouns people use for him. He hasn’t cared about sex or relationships for decades.

Boromir: He/him but he wouldn’t care really if you used they/them. Gay disaster, has women bffs and a major crush on Aragorn. This is true and you know it.

Éowyn: She/they/he non-binary ace for the win. I’m thinking her romantic orientation is unlabelled. She and Faramir started as a QPR and then actually fell in love.

Faramir: Demisexual Demiromantic, he/they. His love for Éowyn is so sweet and pure, the kind of love that only comes with an emotional connection. Best LOTR relationship, FIGHT ME.

Éomer: They/he pronouns, asexual gay? I feel like he hasn’t really figured out yet because they’re just preoccupied with other things. He loves shipping Éowyn with Faramir though, and he ships some of the other riders.

Arwen: She/they, bisexual icon. Powerful and she knows it. A literal badass and only Aragorn is worthy of her. Wants a mix of domestic life and adventure.

#lotr #lord of the rings #lotr headcanons #lgbtq #lgbtq headcanons #hobbit #hobbit headcanons #Lgbtq lotr #lotr fanfic #the fellowship of the ring #the two towers #return of the king

[cobaltsoulsearcher]

Poll for my own curiosity

#lotr #Silmarillion #Tolkien #poll #polls #a romantic #aromantic #asexual #aspec #arospec #lgbtq

[rocksandaces]

Honestly the Hobbit was a perfect book goblin asexual me could enjoy and then someone decided to turn that cozy magical adventure into a dark movie with two awful romances

It was already perfect why did you ruin it? I just wanted my dragon and treasure story!

#ace #asexual #lgbtq #queer #aroace #aromantic #goblincore #the hobbit #lotr #tolkien

[iconsumethesoulsofthedamned]

Aragorn is a trans man,Arwen is a trans woman they are kissing and holding hands.

Legolas and Gimli are married and gay and somehow in elf heaven.

Eowyn and Faramir are girl boss and male wife and they are cuddling and they both have complicated relationship with gender due to trauma.

IT DOESN'T MATTER what Frodo and Sam are because the main thing is that it doesn't matter in what way they love each other it matters that they love each other.

This is lord of the rings.

and also Gandalfs gay.

#lotr #lotr fandom #queer community #queer love #aragorn lotr #legolas greenleaf #gimli son of gloin #Faramir #eowyn #sam and frodo #gimli x legolas #aragorn x arwen #sam x frodo #eowyn x faramir #arwen evenstar #gandalf big naturals #fandom discourse #lgbtq community #I only make true takes

[middle-earth-mythopoeia]

Yes, there are gay characters in Tolkien’s books

There seems to be an entrenched view among Tolkien fans that Tolkien did not write any gay characters, and that by interpreting any of his characters as gay you are going against what he would have wanted. Homophobes obviously believe this very strongly, and have always been hostile towards queer fans and queer interpretations of Tolkien’s works. Many members of the LGBTQ community also believe that they’re contradicting canon when they interpret Tolkien’s characters as gay—the only difference is they don’t mind doing so.

But is it so against canon to interpret any of Tolkien’s characters as gay? The assumption that Tolkien did not write gay characters hinges on his Catholicism, but I’m going to explain why this is flimsy reasoning.

First, it should be noted that Tolkien didn’t leave any writings expressing his views on homosexuality, so there is no evidence one way or another. But it seems relevant that Tolkien was good friends with W.H. Auden and corresponded with him over multiple decades. They first met when Auden listened to one of Tolkien’s lectures at Oxford and was inspired to learn Anglo-Saxon. Auden loved Tolkien’s poetry and prose and defended LOTR from critics at a time when it was seen as an unserious work in an unserious genre. Did Tolkien know Auden was gay? We don’t know for sure. But there’s at least a chance that he did: the secret of Auden’s homosexuality is one he “loosely kept”, according to an article in the Guardian.

So, Tolkien was friends with a gay man whom he may or may not have known was gay. But are there gay characters in Tolkien’s books? Unfortunately for the homophobes, even if you believe that Tolkien opposed homosexuality on principle, that still doesn’t mean no one in Middle-earth is gay. Actually, no one in Middle-earth is Catholic. I mean that literally, in the sense that Catholicism does not exist in the time period Tolkien wrote about, but I also mean it in the sense that Tolkien’s characters need not adhere to the tenets of his religion, even if it’s not named. Why would they?

It shouldn’t be controversial or surprising to point out that writers can, and often do, write characters that live very different lives from their own. Needless to say, Tolkien didn’t condone the actions of the antagonists of his work, but what about the protagonists? Are we to believe that all of them act in an unfailingly Catholic way at all times? In Laws and Customs of the Eldar, it is strongly implied that (especially in their younger years) Elves do have sex for pleasure and not just to beget children, something that is discouraged by Catholicism. That’s just one example.

(Please note that I’m not arguing that Tolkien’s Catholicism had no influence on his writings, because he explicitly said that it did. I’m saying that Tolkien’s characters themselves are not Catholic and do not necessarily behave like Catholics. So even if you think that all Catholics believe homosexuality is wrong, it has no bearing on Tolkien’s stories.)

Another line of reasoning goes that homosexuality is too taboo for Tolkien—but I have to wonder if people who believe this have read his books at all. The Silmarillion is full of taboo subjects. Túrin and Niënor marry, not knowing they are brother and sister; they find out the truth, and that she is pregnant, and they both commit suicide. Eöl’s relationship with Aredhel is one that, even if it didn’t start out as controlling and abusive—although I suspect it did—it clearly ended up that way, and depending on your interpretation of the text, he may have raped her. Celegorm attempts to force Lúthien to marry him, which would also involve rape, and there is a passage that implies that Morgoth also intends to rape Lúthien. Neither incest, rape or abuse are too taboo for Tolkien—neither are suicide, torture or mass murder, as the rest of the Silmarillion shows.

I don’t want anyone to take this in bad faith: I’m not saying that being gay is comparable to incest, rape or abuse, and I’m part of the LGBTQ community myself. What I am saying is that Tolkien clearly did not shy away from certain subjects, including sexual taboos, simply because they’re taboo. If you’re going to argue that none of Tolkien’s characters are queer because it wasn’t accepted at the time, that’s very unconvincing given the other subject matter in his books.

There is another reason why I think there are gay characters in Middle-earth, and it has to do with Tolkien’s inspirations. It’s well understood by Tolkien fans that you can see echoes of other mythologies in Tolkien’s works. But which ones? When Lúthien brings Beren back from the Halls of Mandos, there are obvious parallels with the myth of Orpheus and Eurydice—though the genders are reversed, and Lúthien succeeds where Orpheus did not. There are parallels between Túrin and Kullervo. There are numerous examples of this kind of thing throughout the Silmarillion and LOTR. Even the name Middle-earth clearly has its roots in the Norse name Midgard. There are some influences that Tolkien explicitly acknowledged, like the Kalevala and the Völuspá, and some that Tolkien scholars have only theorized about. While there are some scholarly articles on Tolkien and the Aeneid, one thing I have never seen anyone discuss is the parallel between Beleg’s death and the story of Nisus and Euryalus.

In the Aeneid, Nisus and Euryalus are a pair of friends and lovers who are fighting for Aeneas in Latium. Nisus, the older of the two men, is said to be a skilled javelin-thrower and archer. Nisus proposes a night raid on an enemy camp, and Euryalus insists on going with him. During the raid they kill many men in their sleep, collecting some of their armor as loot, as was customary. But when they leave the camp, the glint of light on a helmet taken by Euryalus is seen by a group of enemy horsemen, who capture and kill him before Nisus can stop them. Nisus is distraught and kills many of them in retaliation, ultimately dying beside his lover’s body. (In some versions, it’s a stolen belt, not a helm—but the constant motif is the glint of light that reveals Euryalus to the enemy.)

There are so many similarities with Beleg and Túrin that it cannot be a coincidence. Beleg and Túrin also fight side by side, first on the marches of Doriath and later when Túrin is an outlaw. They are very loyal to each other, and clearly love each other. Like Nisus, Beleg is known to be a great archer. Meanwhile, although it does not feature in Beleg’s death scene, Túrin is associated with a particularly significant helm. There are differences too: Túrin’s captivity is the reason for Beleg’s raid on the Orc-camp, whereas Euryalus is captured after the raid; both Nisus and Euryalus are slain one after the other, whereas only Beleg dies in the raid on the Orc-camp. But there is still the overarching parallel of the night raid, in which the enemy guards are killed silently in their sleep; the raid’s connection with an attempted rescue; the chance moment that leads to the tragic death; the imagery of the flash of light; and the distraught reaction of Nisus and Túrin when they see that Euryalus and Beleg are dead. Tolkien read the Aeneid as a student and so would have been familiar with its contents.

There is also the fact that in some versions of the story Túrin kisses Beleg on the mouth in this scene. Although kissing someone on the mouth has not always been a romantic gesture in all cultures and time periods, the clear parallels to the scene in the Aeneid lead me to think that it is in this case. Whether you see the relationship between Túrin and Beleg as romantic is up to you—all that I’m trying to do is show that it’s a legitimate interpretation.

Ultimately, like I wrote here, I don’t think you need permission from anyone in order to interpret Tolkien’s stories the way you want to. If you want to interpret one of his characters as gay, you don’t need to cite obscure plotlines from the Aeneid to justify it. But I do take issue with the idea—which is so pervasive in the fandom—that Tolkien’s stories must not have gay, or bisexual, or trans people in them, and that any interpretations to that effect are against canon. At the end of the day, Middle-earth is supposed to be our world, and guess what? Queer people exist.

#lotr #tolkien #lord of the rings #silmarillion #my writing #Most of the people I encounter in the Tolkien fandom are either members of the LGBTQ community themselves or supportive of it #but once in a while the homophobes rear their ugly heads #I’ve been wanting to write a post about the Beleg/Turin/Nisus/Euryalus parallel for a while now #Plus I’m a Latin nerd myself and also studied the Aeneid in school! #For the record I call that plot line obscure because it’s obscure nowadays but I don’t think it would have been obscure to Tolkien #like I said in the post #and the parallel really adds to the romantic subtext between Beleg and Turin #I do believe it was intentional

[lokiiied]

i love aralas cause they’re wlw, mlm, bi4bi, & t4t

#look at them #the sheer amount of gender and queerness is absurd #gender envy #aralas #aragorn #legolas #legolas x aragorn #lotr #wlw #mlm #bi4bi #t4t #lgbtq+

[whereserpentswalk]

Harry potter/Star wars/Marvel fan: "as a member of the lgbt community."

Superwholock fan: "actually it's MOGAI now."

Iliad/Tolkien/Gothic horror fan: "I tend to just prefer the term queer."

Homestuck/Undertale/fnaf fan: "As an esteemed faggot myself..."

#196 #my thougts #fandoms #fandom #homstuck #undertale #fnaf #superwholock #tolkein #tolkien #lotr #gothic horror #the iliad #queer #lgbt #lgbt community #lgbtq community #mogai

[flop-tropica]

#gandalf #lord of the rings #lgbtq #lotr #gay #nonbinary #non-binary #non binary #gays #gandalf the they #x #hobbit #hobbits #sam smith

[thelien-art]

Ohh pride requests! May I ask for non-binary Elrond and/or aroace Gil-Galad?

Your art is always awesome, I treasure everything you've drawn for my requests <3

~ maglor-my-beloved

For you @maglor-my-beloved

Thank yoouuuu♡♡♡♡♡♡♡ you´re too sweet!

I have a very soft spot for Elrond and Ereinion. I love them a lot♡

🏳️‍🌈CELEBRATE PRIDE WITH ME🏳️‍🌈 - send in a character or a ship with a pride flag and I´ll draw it

(The flags are on the jewelry as I wanted to add them in a more creative way than I did last year)

#tolkien #silmarillion #jrr tolkien #lord of the rings #lotr #elrond #elrond peredhel #ereinion #ereinion gil galad #gil galad #pride requests #lgbtq+ #lgbtqia #nonbinary #aroace #aromantic asexual #asexual #aromantic #silm art #lotr art #digital art #my art #tolkien art

[yourdailyqueer]

Richard Armitage

Gender: Male

Sexuality: Gay

DOB: 22 August 1971  

Ethnicity: White - British

Occupation: Actor, writer

#Richard Armitage #lgbt #lgbtq #mlm #queerness #male #gay #1971 #white #british #actor #writer #lotr #popular #popular post

[typhlonectes]

#LOTR #Pride #gay stuff #LGBTQ+ #marsha p johnson #history #USA

[bralesscommie]

My Tolkien Headcanons

Silmarillion and Lotr characters

Elrond

Has PTSD, possibly c-PTSD from the Third Kinslaying, losing his parents and growing up with the people who took away his home

Has sensory issues, mostly a hard time with crowds and loud noises (also for PTSD reasons), but also really hates some textures

Pretty bad migraines from foresight and tension headaches from anxiety to the point where a couple of times a month he can't work

Is a workaholic

Is bisexual

He/they in an elf way

Isn't white, it's kind of hard to tell his exact race with his very mixed genetics

Maglor

Has anxiety from growing up in the chaotic house of Fëanor

Is depressed

Uses music as escapism

He/him but doesn't mind he/they

Is pretty fluid sexuality wise

Maedhros

C-PTSD from being chained to a mountain and also like everything else that's ever happened to him

Has depression

Chronic pain in his back and shoulder, as well as phantom pain in his amputated arm

Has some kind of personality disorder

Is gay

He/him

Eärendil

Has anxiety from and is traumatized by the escape from Gondolin

Was not ready to be a dad

Straight

He/him

Is definitely not white

Elwing

Is traumatized by the Second Kinslaying, possibly PTSD

Bi-curious

She/her, has thought about adding a they to her pronouns

Eowyn

Has anxiety and depression

Has anger issues but is learning healthy coping mechanisms

Has trauma from SA, and does her best to spread awareness

Enjoys being butch in everyday life, but will dress up feminine once in a while

Is bisexual

She/her

Is happy being poly, but doesn't mind being in monogamous relationships

Arwen

Had really bad anxiety after Celebrían sailed, but is doing much better, though she still has occasional tension headaches

Sensory issues like her dad

Also similarly to her dad, she is mixed

Sapphic, but is open to very few men

She/her

Aragorn

Pretty mentally stable, at least considering everyone else around him

Brown

Is bisexual with a preference for women

Does not care about his pronouns, but is cis in some weird way?

Legolas

Was born in an era with very few elflings, and as an only child hasn't had the opportunity to socialize at all

Rich whiteboy (gender neutral) privilege that they don't entirely recognize

Probably not neurotipical

Fluid sexuality, doesn't really like labels, but if asked persistantly will say he has a preference for men

He/she sometimes they

Bilbo

Has ADHD and anxiety

Struggles with ring addiction

Is acespec and gay

They/he

Sam

AuDHD

Has low self-esteem, imposter syndrome, and anxiety from his childhood with the Gaffer

Is brown

Pansexual

Officially he/they but prefers they/them

Frodo

Is autistic

Has chronic pain post quest

Has chronic fatigue post quest

Possibly transmasc, he/they or he/him

Gay

If you would like to see other characters, or more on some characters, my ask box is always open

#Leo's tolkien musings #lord of the rings #lotr #silm #silmarillion #lord of the rings headcanons #silmarillion headcanon #elrond #maglor #maedhros #earendil #elwing #eowyn #arwen #aragorn #legolas #disabilty headcanon #lgbtq headcanon #racial headcanon #bilbo #sam #frodo

[pendragon1400]

#bg3 #funny #gale #Merlin #bbc merlin #lgbtq+ #dumbledore #gandalf #lotr

[elithilanor]

Head-canons/Imagines for Elves Responses to a Reader Suffering Sensory Overload (from a person who suffers from sensory overload and overstimulation) p4

Tauriel: Expressive. Movement. Nature.

Despite being an elf, Tauriel never really slows down and is often out fighting or practicing fighting. Her love is quick and fiery and intense and passionate, just like her. She’s aware enough of her partner to recognize something’s wrong, but her typical ways of self-soothing aren’t usually beneficial to you.

She usually ends up taking you to a meadow or on a long walk among the safer paths in the Greenwood to try and ground you and surround you by the magic of middle earth and the trees. It pulls you out of your head and often takes your senses off the edge they were on or over so you can continue to relax throughout the rest of the day or get some sleep. She’ll brush with your hair for hours.

Arondir: Grounding. Gardens. Presence.

Arondir’s by nature a quiet elf and focuses more on actions to prove his love than words. He often can get overwhelmed by the hustle and bustle of the human communities he’s lived in and misses the sounds of soft elven silences so he understands the situation.

He’ll stand as close to you as you allow and run his hands over your arms in a soothing gesture, head tucked into yours and doesn’t say anything. His strength of presence is more than enough. You live out of the village far enough that your home and gardens are quiet so if it’s not bright out (so not to aggravate a migraine), he’ll take you to your garden and sit with his arms around you weaving the vines of flowers into small animals to amuse you. All in blessed silence.

Thranduil: Holder. Soothing. Nuzzler.

You tend to sequester yourself when you feel like the world is just too much, so sometimes given how busy he is, he’s not always aware of it. He tries to keep an eye on you and feels terribly when he finds you curled up in a ball long after nights fallen with no one to keep you close.

Legolas got some of his soothing tendencies from his father so in that vein, Thranduil usually wraps you up tightly in a blanket and will lay next to (or on) you to try and cover as much surface area as possible. He likes to bury his nose in your neck and just nuzzle the shit out of you because it makes you laugh when you can. For all that most people are intimidated by him and his presence, he’s actually incredibly warm with those that he loves that need him.

@sorrow-and-bliss p4; maybe the last part?

#lotr imagine #lotr headcanons #Tauriel #tauriel x reader #Tauriel imagine #Arondir #Arondir imagine #Arondir x reader #silvan elves #thranduil #thranduil imagine #thranduil x reader #elithilanor #sensory overload elves #lgbtq #gn reader

[hrtforthememe]

Use tags wrong, its funny

#transgender #trans #transgirl #transmeme #hrt #t4t #transfem #lgbtq #196 #ggst #political #politics #democrats #republicans #conservatives #liberal #vermintide 2 #star wars #lotr #baldurs gate fanart #harry potter #hazbin hotel #helluva boss #brandon sanderson #programming #college #montana #oregon #new york

[bookishlyvintage]

a rainbow for this dreary winter day ~

#book stack #rainbow stack #rainbow #books #stack challenge #daughters of the dawn #the inheritance games #sisters of the snake #the hawthorne legacy #the gilded ones #the future king #bookblr #booklr #lgbtq #ya fantasy #young adult #lotr #stenciled edges #special edition