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clusterrune · 11 months
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Narc Supply
a list of things that could be a narc supply! things pw npd find give them a narc high.
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explaining a narc supply - masterpost - compliment generator
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Personalized Praise
compliments that are personal to the person theyre directed towards
compliments that include facts or interests
compliments that are more than just the generic "i like (your appearance)"
praises about a persons skillset, created content, something they put even the slightest effort into
praises for help of any kind
complimenting something theyre good at and/or passionate about
praises for being knowledgeable about a topic
these can be very different depending on the person, some like the usual "good job im proud of you" and some prefer very high title praises like "youre a god/royal!"
Attachment / Emotional Feedback
some gain a high when they get certain reactions out of people
hate asks, love confessions
when someone has some sort of feelings towards them it helps them feel wanted and/or at the center of someones focus/attention
some prefer positive over negative feedback, some see negative feedback like hate mail as a sign they've reached popularity of some sort, some are neutral.
some narcs find people gaining an attachment to them as a supply
Break The Record
some narcs see reaching a goal as a supply
this can be reaching a new high score on a came
beating their own records
or beating other people's scores
getting ahead in a competition, even if it wasnt a competition to begin with, beating that goal they set can give them a high
Comforted
some might look for comfort media
listening to music or watching something they find comfort in
art or fanart they find comforting
comfort characters
all can help recover from a crash in a soothing way.
Perceive Me
people telling them how theyre perceived as an individual
especially if its in detail and can contain praise
knowing how one is perceived either by strangers or those theyre close with, can be someones supply
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a narc supply can be anything, ranging from anonymous hate to being told someone's proud of you, to being given a little affection and even something akin to being worshiped or feared and it can be more than one of these at a time.
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feel free to share any resources, tips or anything that works for you that i have not yet listed!
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poetrybyonur · 2 months
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Soul connections aren’t something you go hunting for. Whoever feels they need to “weed people out” to find a soul connection, that’s not soul connection they are after, it’s something else. It’s narcissistic supply.
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marry-stylez · 6 months
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thehareswears · 2 months
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"Hi! How are you today?"
NO
NONONO
Don't be milk toast vanilla bland bullshit in my inbox. This blog is for me to be unabashedly mentally ill, so are my dms.
Tell me you're having a wildly shitty day, let me know that you need a supply, tell me everything about your favorite person or thing, tell me that you just took a cold shower fully clothed for the sake of joy, tell me that you feel like dying then 5 minutes later tell me that you're just fine now!
Starting with talking about yourself is fine
Starting with a paragraph is fine
Starting with a vent is fine
Just don't be bland
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vizthedatum · 1 year
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You could be doing everything in your power to help yourself: therapy, medication, boundaries, trying to stay well nourished, calm and non-reactive
And then the reactive emotional abuse begins
And they attack you
They attack you and the whole atmosphere changes
You stay calm
Until you break (they know your vulnerabilities plus if they’re upset, you’ll just blame yourself anyway)
They’ll say then how emotionally unstable you are
How you’re always in a crisis
If you’re their ex, they’ll videotape the reaction to you breaking down from their abuse
They’ll seem like the calm and rational one
And you’ll feel like a monster who couldn’t “be kind and hold their emotions”
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psychreviews2 · 1 month
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World Narcissistic Abuse Awareness Day June 1st
World Narcissistic Abuse Awareness day is June 1st , and I would like to do a small review on some of the precursors to Narcissistic Personality Disorder. As much as we hate the damage caused by these abusers, narcissists are still people and they came from families that weren’t dissimilar to ours. Some of the causes are related to inheritance but there are many other early family experiences that contribute to this disorder.
With destroyed relationships, there are feelings of emptiness even in the midst of worldly success. The life of a Narcissist is a no win scenario where real love and peace is denied. The only futile pleasure left is a feared respect from onlookers, who are manipulated by rewards and punishments. There is a psychological isolation for narcissists who are stuck in their sadistic world. It causes a revolving door of victims who are forced to abandon the narcissist when they are tired of being an object in that world.
Emotional Control and Self-Esteem
Recent studies have shown that there is a complex connection between emotional control, and life events that threaten a narcissistic patient’s self-esteem. This is true for most people, but for a narcissist it is even more difficult. The skills to be able to control emotions opens up reactivity to difficult life events which in turn reduces the patient’s ability to control those emotions. The desperate need to regain control can involve “enhancement, spurred by aggression or fear and accompanied by detachment or dismissiveness, [that] can readily shift to inferiority and insecurity, accompanied by avoidance or a sense of loss of control caused by overwhelming shame, fear or powerlessness.”
The comparison problem
Many of these life events that threaten a narcissist are related to “social dominance, professional, physical, financial or material contexts that can cause feelings of worth or worthlessness. When there are shifts in interpersonal attention, from being included, appreciated and admired to being excluded, criticized and ignored, the self-esteem can be challenged. Experiencing loss of control and competence can evoke intense internal self-criticism, with accompanying shame, anxiety, rage or fear, and result in drastic actions to regain or to escape the situation…Emotions can be either rewarding, challenging or threatening to narcissists, mainly depending upon how they are perceived by the [others] and how it affects their self-esteem, and their sense of competence and control.”
Mentalizing
One of the key deficits that threatens the self-esteem in narcissists is the ability to mentalize. This is the skill to see intentions in oneself and in others which helps to protect against self-esteem injuries. Narcissists have trouble thinking and reflecting beyond the immediate experience when these injuries happen. They can fall back on aggression as a protective shield against overwhelming thoughts and feelings. This leads to a failure to understand consequences of their aggressive and self-destructive actions.
Impaired empathy
There is some level of empathy with narcissists but it is impaired, but "the ability to care and have empathy can fluctuate and depend upon both emotional control and self-esteem. This can result in a range of interpersonal responses to others’ needs and reactions; from total ignorance, avoidance or dismissive or even aggressive responses, to extraordinary attentiveness and care in contexts where such engagement also is associated to self-enhancement and possible benefits. People with NPD can appear unaffected by losses, separation or experiences that normally would evoke sadness, pain and anguish. They have even been considered unable to grieve. Nevertheless, [they have] extreme hyper vigilance and reactivity to certain threats, separations or losses of people or conditions that are crucial for their self-esteem.”
Fear
Despite their lack of grieving, narcissists still sense fear. “Fear can underlie several management and avoidance strategies typical for NPD, [from] achievement, competitiveness, perfectionism, risk-taking, down to procrastination, distancing and avoidance. The fear of negative...aspects of the identity can enforce protective self-enhancement as well as despair and potential suicidality, which can be a last attempt at control.”
How did they turn out this way?
What are the top reasons that lead people to narcissism? Like in all sciences there isn’t always an easy cause and effect relationship. There are multiple causes and effects, including "inheritance, temperament, psychological trauma, and age inappropriate role assignments."
Inheritance
For example, a twin study on heritability of Cluster B Personality Disorders including, Anti-social, Borderline, Histrionic, and Narcissistic, showed that all of these disorders have a high heritability with Narcissism being slightly higher than the others. Although, predicting personality disorders accurately is improved with the understanding of heritability, it is not 100% predictive.
Temperament
How heritability shows up in personality can be measured in different ways, and one way is temperament. Psychoanalysis connected a depressive temperament to Narcissism. Unfortunately prior studies measured grandiosity more than depressive temperament, but in a study by Tritt, a depressive temperament was found to be associated with narcissism, in particular how patients' avoid shame and humiliation to prevent losing admiration from others.
Psychological Trauma
This temperament leads to a vulnerability that can lead to constant trauma related to chasing the grandiose self:
"Kohut identified two disturbed aspects of the self that are characteristic of narcissistically vulnerable individuals: the persistence of the grandiose self and the unending quest for the idealized parent. The former requires that the individual’s special qualities and skills be admired and affirmed. The latter involves the desire to merge psychologically with persons who are perceived as powerful and strong. In brief, the grandiose self expects absolute, omnipotent control over an archaic, self-referential world. The narcissistic individual who experiences injury to the grandiose self responds with rage toward an individual or world that is perceived as not having an independent existence. The outraged grandiose self responds to trauma with, “How dare you do this to me? I deserve better. I’ll show you!” An apt analogy is the spoiled child who expects everything to go his or her way. Set backs are met with temper tantrums that dramatically illustrate the child’s world [where only the self is real]."
Naturally because the world can operate independently of the narcissist's wishes it leads to endless psychological trauma when trying to cope with change.
Age inappropriate roles
How the parent treats the child also forms part of the precursors to Narcissistic Personality Disorder, or NPD. Paulina F. Kernberg says, "the children of narcissistic parents are at risk during their first year of life because of the parents' lack of empathy, which causes an incapability to fulfill the needs of the baby. The parents' own omnipotence leads the child to a cycle of lack of limitation, overindulgence, and inconsistency that maintains and contributes to the preservation of the grandiose self. In the mind of the parents, the child has a role...that contributes to his or her treatment [outside of what is age appropriate]. This can be seen in the cases of divorced mothers with infantile personalities, who treat the child as the spouse or the sibling or as an endlessly infantile or dependent baby, an echo of the mother's own sense of self."
Limited individuation and no support for separation
The child then has trouble separating the personality from the parent and stays limited. "The parent supports the child's individuation - that is, the refinement and distinctness of [the child's] activities - [but only] inasmuch as the individuation rewards the parent's own needs. However, the parent does not support the separation. The child exists in the service of the parent's self-esteem and does not exist as an autonomous being. Paradoxically, the power given to the child to regulate the parent's self-esteem fuels the child's grandiosity even further."
Since the child is dependent on these narcissistic parents, "there is a pathological equilibrium between the child and his or her parents. The child needs the parents and the parents need the child in an interlocked mutual narcissistic way, and the parents' narcissistic needs override the child's normal narcissistic needs. Consequently, the child develops a sense of unreality [with unrealistic expectations against which the grandiose self is erected]. [There is a distortion] of the sense of core self in NPD, especially because the sense of boundary, including the experience of one's own body, may be brittle. There is no acknowledgement of other's intentions, and a reliance on one's own subjectivity infiltrates the whole world, resulting in a sense of isolation and deprivation. In terms of [separating from the adult], the narcissistic personality may have a variety of points of [arrested development] when self-absorption and the illusion of self-sufficiency [a God-like persona] are such that the external object represents a minute aspect in the child's world."
Splitting
"The positive perception of the actual self is fused with an ideal self and an ideal object. This is projected onto idealized external objects that are used and acknowledged only to confirm the individual's own grandiose self. A splitting occurs with all other aspects of the devalued vulnerable self and are projected, resulting in a devaluation of other objects of the external world. The world of others consists of devalued persecuting others and fleeting, unstable idealized others who remain as long as they fit into the grandiose scenario. The grandiose self-structure, consisting of the fusion of actual self, ideal object, and ideal self, explains the sense of entitlement and self-centeredness."
Controlling siblings
When there are new additions to the family they can be another source of a persecuting other. "An exaggerated sibling rivalry can be seen in narcissistic children. This can at times escalate to outright abuse. The aloofness and sadistic behaviour expressed toward siblings serve as a protection to the child's sense of narcissistic injury for not having been the only one in the family. A deep protracted resentment continues throughout the childhood and adolescent years and beyond." [See: 'Little Hans': https://rumble.com/v1gu93b-case-studies-little-hans-sigmund-freud.html]
Controlling school
This need to control the self-image is expressed in the school setting as well. "Grandiosity is a maladaptive way of protecting self-esteem, because the grandiosity requires immature or primitive defensive maneuvers (e.g., devaluation, projective identification, denial, omnipotent control, withdrawal, and aloofness). A consequence of a sense of grandiosity and entitlement is that in spite of superior intelligence, these children [can] have a checkered performance at school. They can have excellent grades, have low grades, or fail altogether, depending on their wish to put forth effort or not."
Controlling the world
The need to preserve this grandiose reality extends to the world at large. "Pathological narcissism in childhood is characterized by deficient social skills and poor peer interactions in terms of level of development appropriateness. This is because of the inability...to empathize with others, their need to control and devalue their peers, their need to avoid any difference between themselves and others in order to allay their sense of vulnerability and envy.  In adolescence, for example, the narcissistic individual may appear charismatic. The grandiose self exerts particular attraction on peers as it resonates with the aspirations of the other members of a group. Thus, for a while at least, the narcissistic adolescent appears to have arrived already at the ideal of perfection, beauty and power. He or she gives an illusion of a reality that the group members seek. In turn, the group confirms the narcissistic adolescent's grandiosity so that he or she can protect himself or herself from any sense of hurt. Two noteworthy aspects of social interactions occur. One is a choice of a more popular, pretty, or handsome partner who is shown off. The other is a choice of a friend who is the least popular, ugly, or physically handicapped. In this case, the narcissistic adolescent can feel admired by the ugly partner who becomes a psychological slave and is masochistically grateful to have been chosen as an object of attention even if the quality of attention is derision." The sense of self then gets regulated by controlling the group members as they periodically attempt to change the power structure to advance themselves against the narcissistic leader.
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Duping delight
The psychological reward manifests in tricking, controlling and isolating victims with a pleasure, as described in Psychopathy and the Law, as Duping delight. Getting away with abuse is pleasurable for narcissists and psychopaths. Victims often describe this duping delight smile they witness as reptilian like you can see at the ending of the Hitchcock movie Psycho when Norman Bates gets delight when he thinks he's trapped his victim in the basement.
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As sensational as movies can be, the reality is that duping delight, usually more passive-aggressive than you see in the movies, is a shallow form of pleasure and to be locked into that limited happiness for the entirety of one's life is not a rich and fulfilling one.
Gaslighting
This shallowness is exemplified in all the goal orientation towards validating the unreality that is the grandiose self. That unreality leads to conversations that always lead to some aim to get the victim to know what the narcissist wants them to know. A form of impression management that controls and achieves their goals. In Psychopathy and the Law they say, "problem-solving discussions is what Gaslighting is. It involves going from an unsatisfactory state to a more satisfactory state. Gaslighting for the pathological liar is simply a means to an end. Whether it’s lying to people to put blame on others, or to avoid punishment, or to pursue an infidelity, there’s always a goal directed motive."
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Other risks
There are some other risks that caretakers of narcissistic children can become aware of that may predispose the children for adult narcissism.
One is adopted children. For example, they were "in the contradictory dilemma of being chosen because he or she was 'the most beautiful baby,' as well as because he or she was 'discarded' by the biological parents. The uncertainties of the period before the adoption are formalized and contribute additionally to the problem because they interfere with the sense of secure attachment.
Abused children. Children who were abused had the challenge of needing to fuse with an idealized parental image to protect [themself] from the external sadistic image of the [abusive] parent.
Spoiled children. Overindulged or wealthy children [could have] a prolongation of infantile narcissism [where one was one's own ideal], but [especially so] if this is combined with narcissistic personality problems in the parents.
Children of divorced parents are at risk when they attempt to fulfill their own infantile narcissism and combine it with the omnipotence derived from fulfilling the wish to replace the other parent and [to gratify] the [step parent] with a blurring of the normal generational roles", [like treating them as a friend].
Many of these factors were in play before the victim met with the narcissist. It's important to be aware of these red flags because once they are in play, the prognosis for the adult narcissist is a life long nightmare of exploitative, shallow, and empty relationships.
World Narcissistic Abuse Awareness Day Summit, June 1st
Disorders of Narcissism edited by Elsa Ronningstam (excerpts and paraphrases from Paulina F. Kernberg): https://www.isbns.net/isbn/9780765702593/
Psychopathy and the Law by Helinä Häkkänen-Nyholm, and Jan-Olof Nyholm: https://www.isbns.net/isbn/9780470972373/
Robert I. Simon (2009) Distinguishing Trauma-Associated Narcissistic Symptoms from Posttraumatic Stress Disorder: A Diagnostic Challenge, Harvard Review of Psychiatry, 10:1, 28-36, DOI: 10.1080/10673220216206
Ronningstam, Elsa. (2017) Intersect between self-esteem and emotion regulation in narcissistic personality disorder - implications for alliance building and treatment Borderline Personality Disorder and Emotion Dysregulation, 2017, Volume 4.
Ronningstam, Elsa. (2016). Pathological Narcissism and Narcissistic Personality Disorder: Recent Research and Clinical Implications. Current Behavioral Neuroscience Reports. 3. 10.1007/s40473-016-0060-y.
Svenn Torgersen, John Myers, Ted Reichborn-Kjennerud, Espen Røysamb, Thomas S. Kubarych, and Kenneth S. Kendler (2012). The Heritability of Cluster B Personality Disorders Assessed Both by Personal Interview and Questionnaire. Journal of Personality Disorders: Vol. 26, No. 6, pp. 848-866. https://doi.org/10.1521/pedi.2012.26.6.848
Tritt, Shona M. et al., Pathological narcissism and the depressive temperament. Journal of Affective Disorders, Volume 122, Issue 3, 280 - 284
Psychology: http://psychreviews.org/category/psychology01/
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nothing0fnothing · 8 months
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"narcissists coming to my account looking for supply DNI. Get it elsewhere."
Is a massively ableist statement. People with NPD need supply and shaming them for that is disgusting and pathetic.
Dude I'm a vent account posting about childhood trauma and recovery from cptsd. What kind of supply do you think narcissists want when they come to my page?
People with NPD overwhelmingly have trauma in their own childhoods, and coming here to vent, to share in my healing journey or to have your experiences validated is and will always be fine. Everyone deserves support, everyone deserves sympathy and everyone deserves to be seen.
Although aggression is not an abnormal reaction to injury or shame, some narcissists use it to feed their narcissistic supply. If a person responds to a narcissist’s anger, they might fuel the fire and offer the narcissist the attention they desire. Arguments can give the narcissist more motivation to keep going and continue the narcissistic abuse because it’s eliciting a reaction to their behavior. Do you maybe understand how having some edge lord pizza cutter running to my vent page looking to argue over my lived experiences may not be entirely welcome?
Some narcissists are often unreasonably, deliberately, and persistently demanding, uncooperative, or argumentative. There is a perceived power that comes from being disliked. This pattern of behavior confirms the narcissist’s inner self-loathing—that they do not deserve love, acceptance, or to be in a happy, healthy relationship. Perhaps you are happy to have that kind of energy on your blog, but where I post incredibly sensitive and triggering shit where I'm working through my own feelings I don't have the spoons to deal with that. I'm here to post about recovery and vent, not to fall down a shame spiral to feed to narcissistic supply of a stranger.
Further, sometimes if someone is happy, a narcissist can leverage this person’s happiness as an opportunity to tear them down. When someone is sad, the untherapised narcissist views this as an opening to manipulate or make them feel worse. Either way, some narcissists use another person’s emotional energy and emotions to redirect the attention back to themself for their own gain. Do you maybe see how that kind of energy on a vent blog of a mentally ill person just here to vent their own problems might maybe be counterproductive?
Listen if you want to make your blog a charity where angry, self hating and untreated narcissists flock to and receive any kind of negative emotional energy they're looking for from you, knock yourself out. I'm certainly not stopping you. But having boundaries to protect your own mental health isn't ableist.
If you feel you really need supply to survive by all means, attend therapy, learn how to receive the attention you need positively and come to my blog. We can validate each other and share in our own recovery from trauma. Alternatively, save yourself the money and the time, and go straight to anons blog, where you can be hateful and shitty for free with no consequence.
Also narcissism and npd are not the same thing educate yourself and don't conflate the two that's ableist.
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clusterrune · 9 months
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I slowly build supply with a partially understood pre-planned crash. Maybe I should stop doing it because it's adjacent to sh but it's consistent and familiar. I like being in control of what I want and even how I fail. I've been wondering what it's like to not fail, though.
i get that
it definitely isnt healthy to cause yourself to crash but i understand the comfort in the familiarity and control you have over it. it sure as hell is easier to crash than it is to not.
i cant really offer any alternative at the moment, i can tell you to focus less on crashing in order to achieve a supply but thats way easier said than done especially when its already a routine you have.
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thejewelsway122 · 4 months
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Coraline is actually exposing what happens in a relationship with a Narcissist (Part 1)
Coraline had always been one of my favorite movies, so I couldn't help watching it again but this time I noticed that the movie was exposing what happens in a relationship with a narcissist.
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Narcissists are individuals that are extremely self-centered which makes them have grandiosity, they lack empathy for others as well as seek validation and attention from people too. So, The Beldam is clearly a narcissist, but what gave that away for me is when she love- bombs Coraline in the beginning.
Verywellhealth.com states, "... the love bomber showers their partner with gifts, praise, and other gestures that appear flattering on the surface. However, these tactics are manipulative, meant to groom their partners, isolate them from friends and family, and secure themselves as the most critical person in their partner's life. The goal is to ultimately make their partner emotionally and socially dependent."
The Beldam immediately used the manipulative tactic on Coraline when she arrives in The Other World. She makes her minions shower the young girl with attention while she gives her gifts and affection, making Coraline become enamored by the romanticized world.
Now the reason Coraline is easily manipulated by the Beldam is because she gets ignored by her parents. They are constantly busy with work so they never make time for her, and they often dismiss her when she speaks to them too. Of course, she begins to feel frustrated and possibly invalidated by her parents which makes her the perfect target for The Beldam.
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Medium.com stated, "Narcissists are adept at identifying vulnerability in potential targets. They have an uncanny ability to spot people who may be emotionally fragile, insecure, or experiencing a challenging period in their lives."
The Beldam successfully manipulates her into wanting to live in the mystical world by exploiting her desire for attention and affection. However, when she attempts to convince her to sew buttons into her eyes and Coraline rejects her, that's when The Beldam's true form and motivations begin to surface.
Coraline learns that she truly desires to consume her life like her previous victims, the three ghost children, which actually represents narcissistic supply.
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Kaminiwood.com states, "Narcissistic supply represents a form of emotional dependency where the narcissist requires constant validation and admiration in order to feel good about themselves. A narcissist has an inflated self-image and needs someone to constantly feed their ego. So, they will deliberately target people sensitive to their superficial charm and charisma, susceptible to manipulation, and vulnerable to narcissistic abuse. Because they cannot connect healthily with other people, narcissists seek for narcissistic supply."
There are various ways that narcissists get their supply like being abusive, exploitation, dominating or controlling others, and even feeding off of others' emotional energy. They don't want to get rid of anyone that offer them supply, because they need it to boost their ego and self-esteem.
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Now, the Beldam might not do all of that, but she does want supply, so she reacts passive aggressively towards Coraline when she rejects her. Instead of letting her go home, she traps Coraline in The Other World, and attempts to lock her away but Coraline ends up getting away and returning to her reality.
There is a lot more subtle representations or symbolisms in the movie that I noticed, but I'm going to dig a little deeper next time. All in all, I hope that this was helpful to anyone that wants to learn more about narcissist and even gain some insight to some of the tactics that are used when in a relationship with them.
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thehareswears · 2 months
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If you show me yours I'll show you mine
(If you give me your attention periodically, I'll be there for you whenever you like)
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vizthedatum · 11 months
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The thing about describing narcissistic abuse (or other forms of emotional abuse) is that the people reading who don’t get it will straight up think you’re crazy and/or ableist. They will scoff at how deep the emotional abuse can go and how much it has damaged you. They won’t understand how it’s a pattern of codependency you have developed since childhood - or even something you were trapped into. It’s straight up psychological manipulation, and we are the perfect targets no matter our education, intelligence, race, gender, etc. Even the abusers themselves (unless they’ve done the very difficult and painful inner work to recognize their patterns) will not get it.
Other survivors will get it.
Find them.
You will find patterns in common, and they will validate and believe you.
(Or in my case since I’m queer and poly, band together as a polycule and make weepy love (well only sometimes))
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flittermousemoth · 10 months
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