Random thoughts:
People who use "narcissistic abuse" always say it's to help their trauma. But all they do is try to demonize their abusers and possibly "harm narcissists." Look how much is about how to harm or hurt narcissists. Hurting someone to make up for your hurt?
I just notice a lot of people that use narcissistic abuse are looking more for revenge or to make their abusers hurt like them which just feels like the opposite of healing. I get it, I've been there, I've felt that too. It can't be helped, but you gotta realize that's not the way to go.
And this isn't whether or not their abusers have NPD, that literally doesn't matter. It feels like the people that use that tag ultimately just try to hurt their abuser or people that remind them of the abuser (which they assume is NPD and I've seen ASPD thrown under the bus as well) as some way to have control.
And I've been there my dude. I've wanted to feel control and make myself big. But the fact is that diagnosing them isn't going to make up for the abuse. Getting revenge, hurting them, doing things to purposefully upset them isn't going to make up for the abuse. Blaming strangers you see as bad cause they have the same disorder you've diagnosed your abuser with isn't going to help.
I've mentioned before, but ADHD and GAD became triggers for me after my abuse with my ex boyfriend. Because he'd use them as excuses when I called him out and lead to how he manipulated me. So much so that I would use the term ADD and hated being diagnosed with GAD a few months after leaving him. But even in my dislike, I never considered that others were bad cause of those disorders. It's like how his name became a trigger for me. I've seen people that look like him, have his name. And part of me did want to project my feelings onto them, but the reality is they're just some innocent person I see. Just because someone has a disorder, a name, or anything that reminds you of your abuser doesnt make them bad.
Hurting narcissists isn't the way to go about it either. Even if your abuser does have NPD, it doesn't mean you should use that against them. The best thing is to always try to get away. Hurting them won't make the hurt inside you less. I don't know why people who use the term "narcissistic abuse" are always so fixated on that or that people with NPD are all bad. Especially since if their abusers did have NPD, it would be somewhat probable they would get it too.
I just find that people who use "narcissistic abuse" are either the people who want to hurt their abusers to make their pain manageable or young folks/people that are just learning they were abused and fall down this toxic rabbit hole of "narcissist bad and abusive."
I'll give a chance to people willing to learn, but there are those that won't be convinced. And if you can't see the harm in using "narcissistic abuse" and how much it harms the mentally ill and those with NPD then uh, just don't bother being near me. Cause no good ever comes from demonizing a group of thousands of people because of your abuse.
Also they insanely dehumanize people with NPD. Like saying they have no soul, feel no emotions, have dead eyes, are not fully human, etc. Which I've been told too cause of my BPD. But people who use those tags are so quick to feel like everyone is their enemy or trying to deny them something. Which i think just shows more how those people need healing and actual help and not to fall further down the rabbit hole of "narcissists are abusive" because if only becomes an echo chamber of that. Even in the tag itself, it harms the victims/survivors and feels like it doesn't have their best interests at heart. So it's literally no good for anyone and harms pretty much everyone.
So there's some random thoughts and things I've noticed in people who use that term. If you believe narcissistic abuse is real or valid, just go. You can try to learn, but if you're not willing to, you can just leave. Cause this place is safe for those with NPD and ASPD and any fucking demonized disorder. And if you think all of em are bad or evil or abusive, you are not welcome here.
Love to everyone with disorders! Unknown, lesser known, lesser researched, more well-known, demonized, well researched disorders, whatever. Personality disorders, dissociative disorders, mood disorders, whatever. You're all welcome here and loved and valid.
Edit: One last thing. I also see them say that "narcissist is separate from narcissistic personality disorder" but then I also see those accounts that post about "narcissistic abuse" put narcissistic personality disorder in the tags 😐 and even if it's not in the tags, it comes up when searching for the disorder. Y'all. Come on.
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hey btw if you're in the USA at 2:20 p.m. ET on Wednesday, Oct. 4, they're testing the emergency broadcast system. your phone is probably going to make a really loud noise, even if it's on silent. there's a backup date on the 11th if they need to postpone it.
if you're not in a safe situation and have an extra phone, you should turn that phone completely off beforehand.
additionally, if you're like me, and are easily startled; i recommend treating it like a party. have a countdown or something. be surrounded by your loved ones. take the actions you personally need to take to make yourself safe.
i have already seen mockery towards any person who feels nervous about this. for the record, it completely, completely valid to have "emergency broadcast sounds" be an anxiety trigger. do not let other people make fun of you for that. emergency sounds are legitimately engineered to make us take action; those of us with high levels of anxiety and/or neurodivergence are already pre-disposed to have a Bad Time. sometimes it is best to acknowledge that the situation will be triggering for some, and to prepare for that; rather than just saying "well that's stupid, it's just a test."
"loud scary sound time" isn't like, my favorite thing, but we can at least try to prevent some additional anxiety by preparing for it. maybe get yourself a cake? noise cancelling headphones? the new hozier album? whatever helps. love u, hope you're okay. we are gonna ride it out together.
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something the women in my family are absolutely flabbergasted by every time it comes up is the fact that i don’t own a scale.
“how do you know how much you weigh??” they cry.
“i don’t.” i simply respond.
“you look thinner, have you lost weight?” they ask at christmas.
“i dunno.” i say as i check on the turkey.
“you look bigger, have you gained weight?” they probe, as if my weight rests on their shoulders.
“i’m not sure, but it’s fine if i have.” i respond with a casualness they cannot comprehend.
“don’t you want to know if you’ve lost or gained?” they inquire over cups of coffee and a plate of untouched cookies.
“i do.” i take a sip. “which is why i don’t need to know.”
“we don’t understand.” they say.
“i’ll drive myself mad if i know. it’s been a question i’ve been looking for the answer to since i was in the seventh grade and my weight was the topic of conversation for the first time; the stretch marks on my calves puberty brought being questioned and condemned. and so i started weighing myself once a day. then twice a day. i gained weight as i grew and was told to stop. i got depressed when i was 16 and the weight i gained was more concerning than the scars on my thighs. the critiques turned to compliments during my first year of college when i’d started skipping meals and my body had to feed itself because i wouldn’t. everyday i stepped on the scale and smiled as i watched that number get smaller and smaller. hunger felt like victory. i started doing drugs that took away my appetite and then my strength. and started feeling guilt when my stomach felt full. and suddenly every time i looked in the mirror i hated what i saw. the more weight i lost, the better i was supposed to feel. each remark on another part of my body lost felt like a slap to the face. i was told i looked good but i knew i wasn’t good enough. and so i tried harder. and then i started to get dizzy when i stood. and i ignored it like i’d learned to ignore my hunger. and then one day at work i dropped like the weight that was never enough after i bending at the waist to grab a milk cap from the floor. and when the darkness faded, i was surrounded by panic as an ambulance was called. and then i was tested and prodded and poked because they thought something was wrong with my heart. and the problem persisted but they never found out why. but i’d known all along. and then i left home and its scale behind. and moved into a new home that was mine. so i bought plates and sheets and art for the walls. but i didn’t buy a scale. then every time i walked down an aisle i’d see the them and pause. and i’d think about the hunger i now kept at bay. and even though i didn’t know how much i weighed, i didn’t notice my body had changed. and i’d think about how i hadn’t been dizzy for months. and how i hadn’t fainted for longer. and then i’d keep on walking. and now most days i like how i look.”
“but don’t you want to be skinny?” comes their quiet response.
“i want to be myself in whatever body i have.”
they stare in disbelief. so i shrug my shoulders, and grab a cookie. and i smile at them as i swallow the first bite.
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as someone who has experienced abuse from someone with a personality disorder, it's actually incredibly easy to not dehumanize everyone with a personality disorder. i've seen people do borderline eugenic rhetoric surrounding people who have npd, aspd, bpd or other personality disorders, and then be like "I'M allowed to say these things because i'm a survivor, and if you disagree you are hurting abuse victims."
and frankly? i'm tired of it. as an abuse survivor i'm here to say that you're NOT allowed to turn into a fucking eugenicist the moment you're hurt by someone with a personality disorder.
does hurting and belittling other people who happen to have the same disorder as your abuser, people that are already suffering and that are already looked down on by society, bring you any healing? does it bring you peace?
Being hurt by someone isn't an excuse to hurt others that you feel justified in lashing out on. you're literally in control of your own actions,
you may claim to be making a safe space for abuse survivors, but i will never feel any solidarity with you, and i ESPECIALLY don't feel safe with you considering i might have a personality disorder.
you are excluding a large amount of abuse survivors in the name of "advocacy". a lot of people with personality disorders developed one or multiple due to heavy abuse. in the aim of creating a safe space, you are excluding the ones who need a safe space the most.
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this is a friendly little post to say: if you find that doing stretches for wrist/shoulders/back/whatever either 1) don't help or 2) seem to make your pain worse, then please stop doing the stretches. the answer here is not to keep doing them becuase if you push through the pain eventually it'll get better, right?
listen to me. listen. stretches never did anything for me and at age 25 i learned i had hEDS, which meant 1) most stretches would never help me 2) depending on the stretch, could hurt me, so please. if they aren't helping. please do not keep doing them hoping that they will "eventually" help.
look into whether or not you have a hypermobility disorder or EDS or smth, great resource here: www.ehlers-danlos.com
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