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#so like... yeah sam is very very relatable too in that sense
girl-bateman · 6 months
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How does one get assigned as sam coded / dean coded ? Do I need a doctors note ? A psych evaluation perhaps ?
#i keep going back and forth on it#bc i used to identify with dean for the longest time bc i was so repressed and emotionally closed off (+older sister)#and at that point id spent my youth very purposefully protecting my younger sibling from our dad#and i guess in my brain i paralleled that with dean staying behind with john while sam took off for stanford#and dean protecting sam from knowing too much abt the supernatural#BUT having grown up ive now become the one resentful and angry at our father while my sister protects him#and our fights remind me a lot of scenes from the show where im obviously identifying a lot stronger with sam#plus the whole thing abt being the families designated academic or whatever#while also feeling cursed from the minute i was born and crushing at the guilt of everything wrong with me#and trying to be a good person and saving others to make for the fact that i feel an intrinsic evilness about myself#so like... yeah sam is very very relatable too in that sense#bc he also has that hope in him- the belief in god. in angels. in goodness. and i have that too !#im just also a miserable cynic at the same time :)#so ????#i havent been in the fandom for long enough to know the full requirements of being a sam or dean girl#(and by that i mean i havent been in the fandom for long AFTER i rejoined from my 10 year hiatus)#i literally would love to read someones page long explanation of what sam coded vs dean coded entails#someone with a spn hyperfixation or special interest needs to provide me with the goods fr 😭#spn
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whoslaurapalmer · 1 month
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mannnnn nobody has a laugh like sydney greenstreet. I love his laugh so so much
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Anti-destiel Wank (sorry but I have to)
If you hardcore ship Destiel, please just scroll on by. Please.
Ok, I'm gonna get myself in trouble, I'm sure, but I gotta get this off my chest...
Destiel may be a perfectly fine ship,
but,
IT'S JUST A SHIP.
In the actual context of the show there IS NO ROMANTIC OR SEXUAL TENSION/RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN DEAN AND CAS.*
Full fucking stop.
Subtext can be interpreted in ANY WAY YOU WANT. It is subjective. You will find whatever you look for in it. Please stop waving subtext interpretations around as if they were objective facts, they aren't. Subtext, by its very definition, relies on implied meaning and understanding, this means it is a subjective interpretation of the media that varies from viewer to viewer. The inherent variations are what make it fanon/headcanon instead of canon.
If you see tension of that sort there and it makes you happy to postulate the what if, then go ahead, that is what fanon and head canon and fan fiction is all about. But if the fact that the tension you think you see isn't being addressed in actual canon makes you grumpy, maybe you need to take some of the fanatic out of your fanning. If you are beginning to think the show creators are actively trying to repress Dean's "true sexuality and feelings" because they are evil, you might need to consider that you've dug in too deep.
Because, like I ship wincest. Yeah, I said it. But I am aware that canon doesn't actually include any level of sexual or romantic (in the modern sense) relationship between Sam and Dean. Wincest is not canon.
Now, are Sam and Dean the real "love" story of the show? Yes, yes they are. That has always been 100% the entire point of Supernatural, the great love story of two brothers struggling to save the world together. It's about family and everything that means, but at its heart, it is about Sam and Dean WInchester. Not all kisses and cuddles and sex kind of love, but love nonetheless. Full stop.
Now, the fact that Destiel is such a popular ship is not surprising to me in the least. Jensen and Misha are two gorgeous guys who share a lot of chemistry on screen and off. And, it is canon that Cas loves Dean. That has been evident since Lazarus Rising (4x01) when Cas was introduced. Castiel's love of Dean Winchester has been his character's main motivation all along and culminated with Cas sacrificing himself to save Dean, after telling him that he loved him in Despair (15x18)
But Dean's main motivation has always been to watch out for his brother. And though Castiel became Dean's best friend, he still comes second to Sam. Nothing against Cas, he just isn't Sam.
So why are so many people so absolutely convinced that Destiel is so real within the context of the story?
Well, I'm pretty sure that it is the same reason that they are so opposed to the idea of wincest.
As we all know, incest is bad, mmmkay? Incest is probably one of the biggest, strongest, cultural taboos we have. So it makes perfect sense that the idea of two blood-related brothers having sexual or romantic feelings for each other is considered icky. It's so off putting that it is a complete no go for even fantasizing about for most people. And that's probably a good thing, tbh, incest should be taboo. But where does that taboo spring from? Why is it so deeply off limits? There are several reasons, but the two main ones are:
That incest can lead to inbreeding.
That incest too often involves molestation or rape of children.
Both of these are seriously bad enough that we all pretty much collectively agree to avoid incestuous relationships. But, do either of these two reasons really apply in the case of Sam and Dean?
The short answer is no. Primarily this is because they are fictional characters that are being played by unrelated actors. But to humor the objectors we'll look at it closer.
We can take the first one right off the table. As two cis men, neither of them is capable of becoming pregnant, so outside of the mpreg (male pregnancy) or gender bending subsets of fanfic tropes, this is not applicable.
The second reason only becomes an issue when talking about the characters earlier in their lives, pre-show or flashbacks. Weecest or teencest, or whatever, are things, but these typically have separate ship names for a reason, because even when dealing with fictional characters this squicks a lot of folks who are otherwise down with the wincest ship. So most content is tagged or labeled as its specific flavor, so anyone can find it or avoid it. But wincest that involves adult Sam and Dean (the specific pairing I'm referring to in this post) doesn't apply to the second reason listed above.
So there really is nothing morally wrong with Sam and Dean having sex with each other. I know that statement is going to bother a whole lot of people, but it is true. Just because something is taboo does not automatically make it morally wrong. Being gay used to be taboo in our culture, and is still taboo for way too many people, even though there is nothing morally wrong with homosexuality.
Now, I wasn't in the fandom back at the beginning of the show, but I've heard tell that the very first Sam/Dean fic was posted just a few hours after the pilot episode aired. A few hours, that's all it took for some highly motivated fan to type out a story where they were more than just brothers. The story is called Reunion. If you watch the pilot, even with your anti-incest goggles on, the chemistry between Jared and Jensen is palpable throughout. There is a reason the show lasted for 15 years, and that reason is that Sam and Dean just work on screen so well together. So if it only took one episode for that ship to be born, what did all the future destiel shippers do? Well I imagine they felt somewhat uncomfortable for the first 60 episodes.
Flash forward to season four and the introduction of Castiel. Finally there was another male character for fans squicked by the notion of sweet, sweet brother loving to focus on! Cas was clearly fixated on Dean more than Sam, which followed the plot since Cas had been instructed to rescue Dean from Hell. As it would turn out, the brothers were destined to be the meatsuits that Michael and Lucifer wore to the big prize fight to determine the fate of the world. Prepping Sam for Lucifer involved him consuming demon blood, which made most of the angelic host view him as an abomination, a factor that Cas had to learn to get past in his relationship with the younger brother. But Dean was ready to go right out of the box, no assembly required for Michael. Castiel, and many of his angelic brethren, as well as a lot of Demons, seem to be drawn to Dean in a way that they just aren't drawn to Sam. Is this fair? Hell no. But I mean, look at him! Jensen has sexual tension with literally everything he comes in contact with, people, food, his car, the man oozes sexual attraction. Don't get me wrong, Jared is a sexy fucking ball of sunshine, and our Sammy is a damned attractive man, but he tends to be more repressed and less openly sexual than his brother, so it is what it is.
Where was I going with this? That's a good question. I got a bit distracted, sorry. Oh right...
At its root, destiel is a reactive projection. There is undeniable tension between characters in the show. Since all of the main cast are male, that tension is highly homoerotic. The two main characters, who are undeniably emotionally enmeshed and co-dependent with each other (a very well established canon fact btw), happen to be blood-related brothers. Oh no! Where is all that tension coming from since we cannot admit or accept that it's coming from them? Ah ha! Here is a new male character that we like, yes, it is obviously coming from his interactions with one of the brothers, even though he wasn't in the first 60 episodes. Yes, it all makes perfect sense now, all that tension was merely foreshadowing.
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I've read through all the destiel subtext posts. I've gone back and watched all the scenes they reference multiple times with the express purpose of finding destiel. I'm telling you it is just a fanon ship. Which is 100% fine and good, ship that ship, just stop declaring it more canon than canon, because it's not.
And if you don't like fictional incest, cool, cool, you don't have to. But the underlying sexual tension existed in the first 60 episodes prior to Misha being cast on the show, so it was coming from somewhere. And it'd be cooler if you learned how to scroll past people shipping wincest, like I'm sure you do for all the other weirdass, squicky shit that people post all over the internet. But if it makes your heart beat a little faster to imagine that Dean and Cas have eyesex but that Dean and Sam don't, that's fine. I think it's delusional because neither ship is actually canon and both are 100% A-Ok in fanon, and honestly Jensen doesn't seem to be able to control his eyes, which is not something anyone should feel bad about (it's fucking marvelous) but you do you.
*Castiel does love Dean. He confessed as much, but Dean did not reciprocate. What I am referencing is a mutual romance or attraction, which does not exist.
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More Reading Thoughts: A Conspiracy Unmasked
Ohohoho here we go >:-D
Merry like “hmm, I can tell something’s fishy about this, but we’ll have to talk about it later”
The Brandybucks being described as “virtually a small independent country” is GreatTM X-D
“…as a matter of fact, [the Bucklanders] were not very different from the other hobbits of the Four Farthings. Except in one point: they were fond of boats, and some of them could swim.”
*Phil Dragash Merry voice intensifies* I LOVE BOATS Y’KNOW HOW MUCH I LOVE BOATS SO MUCH I MEAN THEY’RE SO COOL AND BOATY AND THEY FLOAT
Aww, Sam’s already getting a bit homesick :-(
Gollummmm
Frodo: “I mean we already ate, but we could eat again.” Merry: “Say no more, fam”
Frodo seeing Bilbo’s things in the new house and being “sharply reminded” of him :-C Hello it is once again Crying About Frodo and Bilbo O’Clock
BATH SECTION YEAAAAAHHHH
“Which order shall we go in? Eldest first or quickest first? You’ll be last either way, Master Peregrin.” HAHAHA GETTIM FRODO
And Merry like “excuuuuse me, you should know by now that I’m better at planning and logistics than that; there are THREE tubs >8-D”
And Pippin splashing Frodo with the bath water 🤣 This whole section is so stinkin’ CUTE
I, too, cannot properly dry my hair until I am out of the steam in the bathroom. Frodo is the most relatable ever.
Merry has such dad energy 🤣 “You’d better clean up your mess, Pippin, before you get any supper!”
The squabbling over the mushrooms haha
Ooooohh The Talk is here
It honestly makes so much sense that Pippin is the one talking when Frodo refuses to. Frodo is trying to keep secrets, and Pippin has zero filter.
Also Merry reading Frodo like a book is SO GOOD
“You are miserable, because you don’t know how to say good-bye. You meant to leave the Shire, of course. But danger has come on you sooner than you expected, and now you are making up your mind to go at once. And you don’t want to. We are very sorry for you.”
THAT’S MY SMART BOI
I can’t wait to draw this part
“You do not understand! You must go—and therefore we must, too. Merry and I are coming with you. Sam is an excellent fellow, and would jump down a dragon’s throat to save you, if he did not trip over his own feet; but you will need more than one companion in your dangerous adventure.” Awww, Pippin!!
Also the foreshadowing, wow
Hahaha Merry presenting Sam like “TA-DA! Our chief spy!!”
Sam: “Gandalf did say to take someone you could trust, sir!” Frodo: “But I can’t trust anyone, apparently!” Sam: :-C
Oh oh oh it’s this part…!!
“It all depends on what you want. You can trust us to stick to you through thick and thin - to the bitter end. And you can trust us to keep any secret of yours - closer than you can keep it yourself. But you cannot trust us to let you face trouble alone, and go off without a word. We are your friends, Frodo. Anyway: there it is. We know most of what Gandalf has told you. We know a good deal about the Ring. We are horribly afraid - but we are coming with you; or following you like hounds.”
MERRY MY LAD I LOVE YOU TO DEATH
That’s true friendship right there
Frodo like “I am NEVER trusting that you are actually asleep ever again” 🤣
“Three cheers for Captain Frodo and Company!” I’m going to melt 🥹
Merry once again being the G.O.A.T. by having the ponies prepared
“It seems to have been a very efficient conspiracy.” HECK YEAH IT WAS
I love that Fatty has barely talked through the whole chapter except to blurt “NOT THE OLD FOREST” at the very end
Merry continues to have Dad Energy by breaking up the almost-argument between Pippin and Fatty
Oooof the dream about the Sea…
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redactedgender · 1 month
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songs i associate with redacted audio characters - speaker & listener edition
oh yeah baby, we back for round two
im not gonna include a singing voice claim for everyone this time around, but some of these might have them in there. also, im only doing three speaker characters this time around because im also including three listener characters. but, i will include four songs for the listener characters. just for funsies.
!! CW FOR SUI/ MENT !!
geordi
hate myself - dodie
; my poor sweet geordi. my little man. this song is far too relatable enough as is, but i have a feeling our resident tetris boy would relate very much to this song. specifically the chorus—“when you go quiet i hate myself” is almost literally about how geordi felt when he was first getting used to cutie’s silence. i can imagine how vulnerable it was for him. he’s getting better tho! which is exactly what i wanted!
voodoo doll - 5sos
; so a bit of a weirder pull for him, i like the idea that in the days after meeting and getting cutie’s number, his thoughts were just plagued with images of them in his mind. do i think they put them into his head? no, but this was early cutie, so it could have been possible. but i like the idea of one of geordi’s thoughts just going all conspiracy over why he kept thinking abt them.
wish me luck - wallows
; another sad one for our tetris boy, and this might even be sadder than the dodie song. i love wallows, theyre probably in my top fave artists, and all their songs are sooo good. this song just screams geordi to me. the genius lyric website says that this song is about “the narrator [is] asking for support and validation from a loved one during times of struggle and self-doubt, whilst talking alot about encouraging self-awareness and speaking out about inner conflicts and problems”, which. i mean. yeah, thats geordi and cutie alright! i imagined this when they were slowly starting to talk to each other again but were still really nervous about what the other would say.
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sam
leaving lonesome flats - dierks bentley
; so this song is. alright so its from the second trolls movie. BUT HEAR ME OUT OK. this is my sam singing voice claim and i think its damn near perfect. i would have done bentley's song “what was i thinking?” instead but i think the trolls song fits better. something about running and coming back, etc etc. listen, this song is just really good, and i think it makes sense for sam. that’s the only explanation i can give here dhsjdhjd
she keeps me up - nickleback
; i was not a fan of nickleback for a while, and now im kinda vibing with some of their songs, but this has such big sam and darlin' energy to me. like, look, darlin' is canonically hot as fuck (as confirmed by porter), and i really just think this song fits really well with their dynamic.
believe me - james and the shame
; so we're all in agreement that sam definitely has some kind of religious trauma (most likely catholic/christian) right? anyways, i only recently got into gmm last year, and when i heard this song i was like “there’s no shot that’s rhett from gmm”. knowing that rhett writes this from the perspective of someone healing from a religious past that was harmful was really empowering, and i think that it fits sam really well.
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blake
absinthe - idkhow
; this song is just cult leader energy. i know he isnt a cult leader really, but like. i mean. sometimes i think closeknit might see blake as some kind of deity or god to worship. but i can imagine blake lowkey liking having that kind of power for one reason or another.
how i’d kill - cowboy malfoy
; this to me suits blake because of the tone shift in the song. where it goes from slow and almost eerie to a bossa nova jazz type swing to it. to me, it reflects how blake is really like: the way he was around sunshine vs bestie, like in his “two sides to a yandere” audio.
if i killed someone for you - alec benjamin
; uh. well. i had this song on the playlist before the “for you” audio. and then the audio happened. so. blake-core i guess??
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darlin'
vampire - olivia rodrigo
; this is such an obvious fucking song to put for them but also i do not care it still fits. this is about quinn, obviously, and i think it especially hits hard after listening to their second vid with sam and how they mentioned finding another vamp that quinn had slept with. like, was this another manipulated vamp? this song just hits differently when you think about darlin'. and also, even if it’s overplayed, the song slaps.
paul revere - noah kahan
; there are definitely other noah kahan songs on my tank playlist, but this one is just such a good depiction of who they are. them coming back to dahlia, people recognizing them but them saying they’re not from dahlia, how dahlia doesn’t feel like home, like—something about that just really hits me in a way that i love.
howlin’ for you - the black keys
; this is my “darlin's go-to karaoke song” song. imagine them kinda drunk, feeling themself and having fun, singing this in front of their pack, and especially in front of sam. like it’s such a good song for them.
best friends - grandson
; this is here because in my little universe, darlin', david & asher were in a band as teens, and they covered this song. but also, this is such a teen!tank song. this was probably playing while they beat up tires in an abandoned parking lot. like i imagine david wasn’t as much a rule breaker as asher, milo, amanda, christian, & tank were, but you gotta admit their friend group were probably hellions in their own right.
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honey
disco man - remi wolf
; this is a good song that fits honey in my eyes. it’s sort of like about guy from honey’s perspective from earlier in their friendship/living situation. learning that the guy who won’t stop flirting with you with the cute smile is a creative writing major probably made honey regret crushing on him asjkgfhjks.
lego ring - faye webster & lil yachty
; ok this actually is inspired by oh, baby, baby by lovelylonerliterature because that is one of the best guy/honey fics i’ve read in a while, but i think honey learning to be softer and be a bit silly with it is so wonderful. also, i like the idea that guy would joke propose with something silly like a bread tie ring or a lego ring but honey would fully take it as a promise for the future and just break guy. what can i say, i like making our pizza boy flustered. and so do they.
“listen to your heart.” “no.” - cheekface
; this is just based on vibes. guy sings most of the song, honey only sings the “no” lines. i’m a genius.
soft bitch - rio romeo
; awww, honey you sap you! no but seriously, i imagine that honey often thinks about how much guy has changed them for the better. and they haaaaate it. y'know that one tiktok audio where someone’s like "he makes me smile—OH WHAT THE FUCK"? that was honey when they realized they had a crush on guy. and this song kind of embodies that too; honey isn't used to being sweet, but being with guy has made them into a sappy person, which they never thought they would be, and how much they actually enjoy it.
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freelancer
just existing - daysormay
; so not only is this my favorite song at the moment, this is also my freelancer theme song basically. the lyrics "it always took too long to learn how to slow down / chasing shortcuts and serotonin touchdowns" and "maybe i lost drive / i'm searching every day for relief / and chasing a break that i don't really need" feels like our resident (and chronic) overworking deviant. this also works when you think about freelancer singing this and each of the verses matching with one of the D.A.M.N. crew boys.
my body - young the giant
; a song about feeling the need to overwork yourself to get better at something because you have a fear of failure and falling behind, in my freelancer playlist? how ridiculous! /j no but in all seriousness this song is a perfect depiction of their need to keep pushing, keep working, to be perfect. i think even when they know they’re good at something, they have to be better. they need to be better to prove themself.
empty bed - cavetown
; so this is a bit more of a depressing and sad song for freelancer, but one i think still makes sense. this reminds me of early s3!freelancer, still healing from the inversion and terrified of everyone they love going away. how they grew up, how they hide their pain as best they can so they don’t bother anyone with their problems, but how they dont want their friends to deal with that kind of pain. how they don't want the D.A.M.N. crew to be in pain, but was so hesitant to let the others know their own pain.
babyface - artio
; so i found out abt artio recently, and when i looked them up on tiktok and saw the lead singer, rae, i immediately said “oh, that's crow!” (for those who dont know, crow is the name of my freelancer-sona). this is very specifically for my freelancer-sona, but i think it stills works for canon!freelancer. how their people pleaser tendencies can make them so quick to change themself for others but how they’ve slowly grown to be more confident in themself.
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this took. far too long hdsjhd
i am still considering sharing my spotify link on here, so if you want to see which of the redacted audio character playlists are on the app, pls let me know!
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(same anon as about the difference in m&f ROs & attraction) Thank you for your reply! It was an interesting read. I will add that some of what I was thinking about was also based on fashion choices and looks (based on the previous art breeder images) - f!G and f!Sam both looked aesthetically very feminine to me, which is not my style, while if I remember correctly from a different post f!Rayyan dresses more sporty/masc-leaning/gender neutral. But behavior/personality/energy is also an important part of this of course. I don't know if the characters themselves would identify as more feminine or masculine, if either (or if the art breeders even were a very good representation re: make up and styling and such)... but it's something that really affects my own attraction to ROs, so I sort of go off whatever impressions I get when it comes to that! Things like, "would this woman wear a dress or not" and long versus short hair and styling etc... Like, for even more context, my ideal female ROs are butches and studs -- but those specific identities are extremely hard to find in anything hahah...
Ooohhh that totally makes sense. I go into more detail on how I picture the F!RO styles in (slight) relation to the ask, but let me know if you guys are interested in M!RO styles too.
I'd say F!Rayyan definitely dresses more masc (a longstanding sore spot with their traditional muslim parents) BUT as I mentioned previously, in casual "civilian" clothes, F!Rayyan does wear a headscarf at the very least, and tries to avoid outfits that show their midriff. Just a nod to their upbringing. They go for a more outdoorsy/tough look.
But yeah f!Tobin doesn't dress femme per se, in casual clothes they'd be just as likely to wear something like a simple t shirt and jeans or a thrift store find, but they clean up nicely and would go to say, a formal event in something more femme, like a low cut v-neck dress. They go for comfort, yes, but of all the f!ROs they're probably the most stylish (perhaps tied with G when G is "trying".)
F!Sam's eclectic in their dressing and goes through different phases / is versatile in their style, but I'd say their go-to is something a little more casual/nerdy/laidback, like graphic tees with funny slogans, video game/book references, and/or something fun and unique.
F!G straddles edgy-chic (leather jackets and skinny torn jeans) with femme-chic, can rock anything from boots and a pantsuit to a full-on femme fatale gown to an ordinary cotton shirt /jeans combo.
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foxesfantasys · 5 months
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Double Trouble AU: Still a C student
Life after Danny’s portal accident was anything but normal, that being said there were no problems between Fenton and Phantom. Rather the trouble came with everyone else.
Sam and Tucker were pretty freaked for a while after. It got a bit better in time but Phantom can still see they feel more comfortable around Fenton than with him. As for Jazz and their parents? Well of course Danny decided that they couldn’t tell their parents about this development, Maddie and Jack being as ghost crazed as they are, and who knows how Jazz would react to the news that he technically died.
It was easy to keep Phantom hidden from their family with his invisibility but that doesn’t mean it’s all smooth sailing. Jazz is always more preoccupied with scolding their parents to really notice anything amiss with her little brothers brother, and so far their parents have been dismissing their tech reacting to their son as software bugs.
Despite all that, Fenton can’t help but pity his ghost every time they are unfortunate enough to witness a demonstration of their parents newest inventions. He and Phantom are separate, their experiences are their own unless they choose to share it with each other, but they are still one person, still Danny. It’s clear in the way that Fenton can feel prickles of terror not his own each time their parents talk about catching a ghost. Clear in the contented warmth that gathers in his chest when it’s just he and Phantom in their room after a long day. Even in the pangs of frustration and confusion that ripple in his head when they try to work through their homework.
Phantom is ok. It’s fine that their parents would possibly end him on sight, or worse. It’s fine. Really. He’s completely fine. He knows that Fenton wouldn’t let anything happen to him, that he’s safe from their parents so long as they stay close. Fenton always does his best to reassure him when their parents get a bit too close for comfort, always makes sure he knows he’s safe, he really appreciates that. And it’s not like it’s all bad staying in the Fenton household as a ghost!
Now that there’s two Danny’s their chores get done in half the time, they even split it evenly between the two of them. Phantom does the chores that his powers make significantly easier and Fenton does the chores that were already pretty simple and easy to do. The only exception to this is when it comes to lab-related chores, which Fenton absolutely refuses to let Phantom do.
“It’s not safe with all their junk laying around.” Fenton had reasoned when his ghost insisted he could help.
It made the ghost huff in offence and cross his arms like a petulant child as he float there. “Yeah that’s exactly why I should be the one to do it!” Phantom argued, “I’m already dead, it makes way more sense that I be the one to deal with the dangerous stuff!”
But the human boy wouldn’t relent, insisting that he handle anything involving the lab filled to the brim with ghost hunting equipment. It’s the closest the Danny’s have ever been to a fight, but fortunately it never reached that stage. Neither of them wanted to figure out how to explain something like that to Sam and Tucker when they inevitably noticed something was up with their friend. Both versions of him.
So with two Danny’s on the case chores became way easier, and so did most things. Education was not one of those things. You know that saying, two heads are better than one? Well Danny does and it turns out it’s a complete lie! Ok, maybe not a complete lie. But still very misleading!
Considering there was two of them, Fenton and Phantom thought for sure their grades would get way higher, after all there’s two of them now, double the focus! Literally two heads! Yeah, no. As it happens that is not how things went. If anything Fenton would argue that their focus is even worse now and they’re lucky that they are still getting Cs.
Sam seemed to find their dismay at the revelation quite amusing. In hindsight it does make more sense that splitting one person into two would half their attention span rather than double it, but the Danny’s agree to keep that between them. No way were they gonna give the goth girl the satisfaction of being right.
Even though it didn’t seem to make much difference either way Fenton and Phantom still worked together on every test and stack of homework that got sent their way. “It’s just more fun that way,” they had answered in unison when Tucker had asked.
“Even if it’s not improving my grades, it doesn’t suck as much when I’ve got a partner,” Fenton explained when they only received a confused expression in return.
Phantom nods along with his human half in full agreement. “Sometimes it’s even kinda fun!” He adds with glee.
Both their friends share a confused look but Danny doesn’t mind, his friends don’t get it but they don’t expect them to. He thinks maybe this is something you can only understand through experience.
Danny is still a C student, but who cares about a letter anyway? He has something far better.
So chores are way easier and school work still sucks. Being separated like they are might not be helping their grades, but it has provided an easy way to get back at a certain jock.
It wasn’t exactly a secret that Danny had been in an accident involving some of his parents tech, so naturally all of Casper High knew. Amity Park isn’t exactly a big place, news travels fast, especially when it involves the Fentons and a hospital trip. Most of the A-listers took some kind of pity on Fenton because of this, everyone in fact. Everyone except Dash.
The news of the Fenton accident didn’t deter the bully at all.
Everyday Dash would corner Fenton in one hallway or another and take out some frustrations on the boy, and usually this would be all, Danny helpless to stop the daily harassment and abuse without incurring further problems. But now he has Phantom with him.
So now every time Dash try’s to corner Fenton, malice and violence on his mind, his laces might mysteriously get tied together. He might trip and land on his face. He might be chased down the hall by the floating football he had been carrying only a moment before. He might suddenly need a belt.
The different ways Phantom drove away the bully always managed to get a chuckle from Fenton, and the decrease in bruising was very appreciated.
It also inspired Fenton and Phantom to try pranking, much to the displeasure of their victims. As it turned out having two people working on it, one being a ghost, made the whole pranking thing a bit too easy.
How do you avoid an invisible pie? Sure it’s suspicious that Danny suddenly wants you to show him some of your psychology books, but the door is locked so how could there be a bucket of water ready to be tipped over your head? Surely you’re just imagining that plant moving, you must’ve forgot to pick it up before, Danny isn’t close enough to have moved it and there’s nobody else around.
Needless to say nobody was pleased with Danny’s new found love for practical jokes. But boy did the two sets of giggles that their jokes always caused give them reason to tolerate it.
It seemed like there were no downsides to this situation! Fenton got to keep living his life, maybe even better than they did before, and Phantom got to keep being Danny, as well as taking some long overdue revenge when necessary.
Everything seemed so much better now. Danny was happy, both of them were happy.
They’re still a C student, but they’re happy and that’s what matters.
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mean-scarlet-deceiver · 3 months
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TAKE TWO. I’m unhappy with version one. I exaggerated the worst aspects of Sir Handel’s reaction here thinking that it added clarity and… comedy? Dunno what I was thinking with that one tbh. And then I didn’t tag/couch the material in a safe way.
I’ve deleted the original. If you’ve reblogged the original, I’d be grateful if you deleted it too.
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Heads-up: I think Sir Handel is, at the time when he meets Duncan, a canonical toerag who canonically hates everything on reflex... probably due to trauma- and adjustment-related issues. 
This means I believe he was a dick about Rusty’s arrival and any preference for the singular ‘they.’ Like, as ugly as his reaction to meeting Skarloey. Worse, even. 
I don’t think this lasted forever, or even very long (Sir Handel just spirals when he doesn’t have his grandparental figures around - and Skarloey's just gone away to be mended), but he was purposefully difficult to Rusty at first. 
But you know who DIDN’T fuckin’ stumble over Rusty’s nonbinary presentation, even though it’s like 1954, on a British railway? 
The S.R.’s other career hater… 
I have exactly ONE headcanon for these two, but I think it’s a good one. 
When Rusty arrives and gives their pronouns, these two are at the opposite ends of the spectrum re: take-in-stride-ness. 
Peter Sam is the one who asked if Rusty was “a he or a she?” and, when Rusty said “I’m a ‘they’” was like “... what does that mean?” It’s 1953 or whatever on the Island of Sodor. These are perfectly natural questions. 
Sir Handel jumps in before Rusty can even answer with “you have to be a he or a she.” 
Rusty explains. They are very clear with themselves on why they like this pronoun and they explain it in a way that makes sense to everyone present who isn’t determined to be a dick about this: “You know when a train is coming in, and you don’t know the engine pulling it?” 
Some digression as their audience relates the junctions or the lack of junctions and subsequent unfamiliar engines in their personal histories. Duncan is the one who is the most ‘yeah yeah i’m sorry you guys are stupid it’s a simple question’ about it. 
“You don’t know if the engine is a he or a she. So what do you say when you see the new engine in the distance? Everyone says ‘ah, there they are.’” 
A beat while everyone digests this. 
“ ‘I don’t see them.’ ‘Give them a minute, they’re almost ‘round the bend.’ ‘They’re here, lads, get ready!’ With most engines, you meet them and learn that they’re a ‘he’ or a ‘she’. But I’m always the ‘they’ in ‘ah, there they are.’” 
“Oh,” says Peter Sam, brow furrowed in thought. “How come?” 
“It’s just me,” smiles Rusty. 
Peter Sam likes that smile, likes Rusty, and smiles back. He will spend the rest of the night and the following couple of days’ conversation needing to slow down and visibly screw up his face to think through diagramming his sentence whenever he refers to them (it’s a very cute expression). After this period of earnest practice he never has to think twice about it again. It’s just Rusty. 
Sir Handel doesn’t like Rusty. He doesn’t like strangers. He doesn’t like engines who smile too much (unless they’re Peter Sam, and even that’s… complicated). He certainly doesn’t like engines who Peter Sam looks on the road to making friends with (everybody. that’s basically everybody.) And he instinctively hates this whole “difference” thing. He’d be fussed about it in anyone. Engines should be he or she!!! And if anyone is going to be fussy and high-maintenance and go against that, it oughtn’t be a shunter and utility engine!!!!1!
He starts in being a real heel, arguing with Rusty. ‘They’ is for more than one engine, it doesn’t make sense for one engine. You’d think he’d never heard Rusty bring up the example of singular they one damn minute ago. No, clearly this diesel-burning mechanical oddity is trying to deceive them. Why? What do you mean, why? For the sake of deception. For unknown but nefarious purpose!
Now, Duncan also doesn’t like Rusty. He doesn’t like diesels. He doesn’t like Rusty’s general air. He can tell Rusty is the sort of suck-up that managers like better than him, and that already has him sulking and glowering. 
However, Duncan has zero problem with their pronouns (indeed, he is able to use them effortlessly from the first, and is eternally impatient with anyone who will ever have even the slightest difficulty getting used to them). 
And, though he already doesn’t like Rusty, Sir Handel harassing them about so stupid and pointless a thing pisses him off. 
So their first night together features Sir Handel trying to bully Rusty – and Duncan just sailing in to argue with Sir Handel until the air is rather blue. (Peter Sam is shocked by the language he’s hearing!) 
The crux of Duncan’s argument and discontent is that 
Sir Handel should stop being fookin stupid 
At this point, Sir Handel is already gasping in indignation. 
Sir Handel has no business giving anyone else shit about what they’re called when he goes around being called Sir Handel (Duncan spits here, and spits again every time for the rest of the night he sarcastically says the name). Engines shouldn’t be theys? Yeah, well. Engines shouldn’t go around with titles! 
Sir Handel is furious. It’s the name of their OWNER! 
Yeah, well, people shouldn’t have titles either! Duncan proclaims that he’s, like, a democrat. [small d]
Sir Handel’s brain explodes. 
The two of them are at each other’s throats until Mr Hugh arrives in his nightcap to sternly explain to the “new” engines the concept of bedtime. (Duncan and especially Sir Handel ain’t that new around here anymore, but allow a tired man his sarcasm.) 
Anyway, that’s the story of Duncan, all-around jackass and yet… nonbinary ally?
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(If only an ally because he hates the oppressor, and his class issues run so deep. As do Sir Handel’s… Look, while the two learn to rub along together and they do appreciate having a fellow hater with whom they can grumble about things, I don’t think their mutual class issues have ever gone away. I would hesitate to go so far as to ever describe them as friends. Duncan and Rusty in the end, yes. Duncan and Sir Handel? The only thing they have in common is their worst instincts, and they never stop low-key looking down on each other.
Like, James and Gordon overcame less of a gap. But also they have things in common besides their grievances. Their friendship was born the moment Gordon saw something in James he could approve of, and James was instantly like ‘oh hell yes your approval was all i ever wanted!!!!! #winning’ Sir Handel is never gonna acknowledge anything in Duncan he respects, and if he did Duncan would be all ‘your approval fills me with shame’ about it.)
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ikamigami · 2 months
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MGAFS uploaded a 25 minute video of Puppet asking Sun 73 questions(we all know she asks him more then that)
What's your thoughts on it? Bc some of Suns responses are funny(when he's showing annoyance through threats) but it also is mainly sad and concerning with most of his answers throughout the video...
I completely understand his annoyance I think that I'd be cursing Puppet out if I was in Sun's place xD
Yeah, some of his answers were really concerning. But I'm also glad that some things got confirmed in this episode. Like for example: Sun drinks alcohol. He likes hamburgers. So I was right that he eats and that he ordered a hamburger for himself in "a day in life of Monty" episode. (It confirms that Sun is harming himself because he shouldn't drink and eat. It hurts him.)
The answer to what superpower Sun would want to have - probability manipulation - confirms that VAs are really looking into a discussion thread for sams (which is cool but I won't get back there ever again). Cause I remember talking about that with someone there. That maybe Sun can manipulate probability of events. It was a really great time. It was fun while it lasted.
I still doubt that Sun wants Eclipse dead though. Like why he would answer this one truthfully. And I also still think that when Sun talks about wanting to kill Eclipse he is talking about himself. I know, I know it doesn't make sense but I think that Sun views himself as an Eclipse. I mean that he believes himself to be bad. And I think that he considers himself to be an actual Eclipse. And by that I mean that Sun thinks that Eclipse is the way he is because of him. He made Eclipse like that. So he's actually the bad one here. I mean that in his delusions it's like that. I hope that makes any sense. It's really hard to explain.
Another thing is that Sun said that he likes parasites and it reminded me of when he said that he likes toxic people. Which again shows us that Sun thinks that he's like that. That he likes toxicity.
Another interesting thing is that Sun said that others made him be so self-depreciating but I think that Sun doesn't think like that actually. This answer was too close to truth for it to be considered that Sun really thinks that. Cause we all know that's true but also not entirely because Sun has very low self-esteem and mental issues that cause him to be so self-depreciating. And I think that what Sun truly thinks is that he believes himself to be a joke. Some sort of a bad joke. Cause he can't do anything and he constantly ruins everything. He's useless failure.
Another thing is that Sun didn't have a second therapy session with Earth which is interesting but I'm also not that surprised either. Also the fact that Sun possibly doesn't like kids does not surprise me either cause I would be unable to like kids myself if I worked as Daycare Attendant just like Sun cause I have a short temper. Sun is just like me fr.
Another thing is Sun doesn't hate dogs. He dislikes them cause they're loud and we all well know that Sun doesn't like loud noises thanks to Moon.
A propos Moon, Sun's answer to the question with Moon was very understandable. Like everything is fine between them when nothing happens but when bad things are happening then uhhh.. Moon is.. we all know the answer.
But see, Sun didn't answer fully this question so why him saying that he would told his past self to kill Eclipse should be considered truthful. I'm not buying it considering that when there was a question related to Eclipse he only said that he doesn't like this whole working with Eclipse thing. But he doesn't actually gives a reason to why he doesn't like that. But I think that it has more to do with Moon rather than Eclipse.
Also Sun saying that the worst experience in his life was having someone in his head and then trying to get rid of them and then they keep coming back may not be about Eclipse but his mental issues and possible fear that he may create yet another being in his head and ruin another life again. I am interpreting it like that because I think that Sun is delusional.
Also we can see that Sun has mood swings yet again. And considering that a year ago sams posted QnA episode and later there was Sun's fight with Lunar and Sun went after Eclipse (iirc).. I think that Sun may have another psychotic episode sooner rather than later...
I hope that the answer is satisfying if not, you can ask me more questions. I wouldn't mind that at all.
And sorry for any mistakes because I had a pretty rough day (it's nighttime at my place)..
Also I don't mind Taylor Swift but I'm not big fan of her either so dear Sun, I won't stop liking you for this xD
And another thing I forgot to mention is that Sun said that he doesn't relate to any fictional character because it's a fictional character. My man, you just don't watch that much stuff and it shows. Or you just didn't find anyone relatable. Also it's not like you're living their life, Sun but it's rather that that fictional character lives your life :) Hope my answer helps, Sun ^^ (I know that he most definitely won't read it, I mean Davis ofc. I said that jokingly)
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Not to be anti-Sam because she really is a good person, but the way she consistently prioritizes the ghosts' desires over her husband's needs without any hesitation is kind of weird lol. I mean, she's lucky she happens to be married to the sweetest, best sport in the entire world, because most people would not put up with even a fraction of what Jay does. It's true that Sam inconveniences HERSELF a lot too, but she also gets the advantage of interacting directly with the ghosts. Jay doesn't even get to form real relationships with them yet has to constantly and majorly sacrifice for them, and his wife seems to just take it for granted that he should be willing to immediately do everything and anything for them without complaint. On a different but related note, Alberta declaring that Sam was being selfish last night was just beyond the pale ---by that point Sam and by extension Jay had already done WAY more to help Alberta with this random new love interest than anyone else would! It's one thing when the ghosts expect Sam and again by extension Jay to go out of their way to help with a serious issue involving family member or to resolve a mystery surrounding their death, but the implication that Sam and Jay should blow up their lives to keep Alberta's boy toy around for a little longer is just ridiculous imo. It kind of seems like the ghosts are more selfish and entitled this season overall, but maybe it's just me. I don't mind that they're somewhat self-absorbed---it's to be expected and adds to the comedy---but they seem to be regressing rather than growing! Maybe they're leading up to a narrative where Jay finally puts his foot down and Sam ultimately chooses to side with her husband over placating the ghosts...?!
I definitely think the ghosts are getting way too comfortable with Sam always advocating for them over Jay (and even herself, as you say). You're not being anti-Sam at all, in fact I've thought everything you say myself.
I mean, in a sense, I understand why Sam does what she does: she is a caring person and she has the means to help these people have experiences that will give them richer, fuller afterlives in ways they can't achieve themselves, so naturally she wants to give it a shot for them. And when you put Jay in the mix, Sam is treating him like the ghosts treat her: just assuming that because he's naturally very accomodating, she doesn't have to ask, or be polite, or even accept no as an answer.
I really would like to see Jay take the reins more because unlike Sam, we know he can draw lines with the ghosts and doesn't hesitate to do so. That's another reason why him being able to see them would be so good: not just because of the fun that would come from him being able to see Pete, but also because he could be the muscle or the force when them that Sam seems to be incapable of being. And then that could lead to them both eventually being able to really be on the same team about the ghosts, not just Sam saying do this and Jay saying okay.
As for Alberta...yeah. Her calling Sam selfish was a real slap, you know? I mean again, I get where Alberta is coming from: With Saul, she's finally having a chance to experience a relationship again and it's frustrating that Sam just gets to cut it off. (And I shouldn't have been surprised how much Jay was willing to do but I was, honestly. Go him.)
But naturally, because they don't usually get to see things from Sam's point of view, they can't put themselves in her place. Being dead gives them a very limited world and worldview where they are more having to be helped by Sam instead of equally being in a position to help her also.
(And I think that when it comes to changing that, Alberta could be one of the first to figure things out. I mean remember when she could be heard in the Alexa and got annoyed by everyone asking her to tell Alexa stuff...giving her a moment in Sam's shoes, which she found annoying. I think more moments like that for all the ghosts wouldn't hurt for sure.)
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the way sam is the only female coded character in existence and the only proof we actually need is the audience reaction!!! drives me crazy! the one time i like a male character and he gets treated like a female one like not even just by people that dont like him and say hes whiny and a bitch but like he also gets the "female character is too smart to join in the boys fun" treatment in fic by people who supposedly DO like him!! why is he getting the girlboss treatment?
also dean calls him a bitch fully seriously in an argument like not in a "oh your acting like a woman" way that people call men bitches but in the fully serious like calling a woman a bitch way. i cant explain it but there is a difference and sam got women treatment in that scene (theyre arguing about dean killing amy if you cant remember the moment)
its just so unusual to me to see a male character get this treatment. its so weird to see
no you're so real anon. i primarily focused on the treatment he gets from male fans of the show because they literally act like anything but servitude or submissiveness towards dean and his actions is a moral failing, which is just like how sexist men expect women to act toward their fathers/ husbands/ male authorities at all times. and it's crazy! but i've seen the more 'benevolent' or girlbossy types of misogyny against him too; i actually made a post about a related phenomena a while back. when sam gets called a woman some people use that to separate him from the 'regular' male characters and elevate him to this infallible bystander status, which of course makes him harder to relate to, less humanized. which is not to say i haven't seen some less savory interpretations from sam fans too, though the misogyny was intended there i'm assuming, for example ones were gets targeted sexually for being 'feminine' by predatory men or entities like azazel. and that's ignoring the fandom in general being rife with misogyny, this is all focused on a character who, going by the source material, is a cis man. what not having a female main character does to you for real.
and yeah dean, and the show as a whole, absolutely try to feminize sam as another way to degrade or victimize him. comments like you're a red headed woman, the ghost goes after chicks, hell even all the jokes about possessions, or the ones straight up alluding to rape (having a girl inside you, teen pregnancy, made you my bitch), all draw from this idea that sam is very womanly and that's the reason bad things happen to him or why he deserves to be made fun of.
as for the fight, i'm assuming you mean this from 7x07?
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i agree the bitch comes off as weird here, dean is playing into the 'woman too irrational to make decisions for herself' stereotype, and tries to convince sam that his choice was the moral one because it comes from a less emotional/ irrational place. and like i said before, dean's decision making is not to be challenged with how the show is framed, which makes misogynistic slurs against sam always feel more targeted.
anyway i agree that it's weird but it's also very fascinating to me. hope this still makes sense because it got a bit long. thank you for the ask.
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gen v ep 4 thoughts
i guess i will put these behind a cut not that there's a lot of them
mostly just wanna say... i was very casually thinking "oh jordan/marie might be fun" before this ep but didn't fully think they'd go there just because... I don't know, I guess my ingrained belief that any sort of queer char outside the "norm" is not gonna be in a relationship with the main lead of a tv show? which is sad but I'm glad they are going for it? my one hesitation right as they kissed the first time was "shit is this gonna be a thing where it's just mariexboy-jordan and it's kinda heteronormative even w a distinctly queer character?" but the ending, i am now very much on board because yay queer marie, yay genderfuckery, and yay rivals to begrudging allies to lovers... i love it...
i was laughing that boy-jordan actor (derek something? Maybe? I am not great on the actor names for this show yet) basically did nothing this ep besides kiss marie tho lmao i do wonder in the writing/directing of the show how much they decided when each actor would be playing jordan - both for story implications but also in terms of giving the actors stuff to do, just an interesting thing to consider
also what are we callin it. jorrie? jordie? mardan? I think i like jordie
anyways i don't really give a shit about cate/andre or sam/emma i mean they're both fine but I am HERE for jordan and marie i hope it continues to be interesting and doesn't turn into any kind of sad cop out "one time thing" or shit
other thoughts i suppose
i will have to go look up what the fuck Tek Knight's power is supposed to be because it seemed like... super senses or super observation? like sherlock or the guy from psych? but i thought Tek Knight was supposed to be an iron man parody so i had been expecting something tech related... i cant decide if i found him entertaining or not... i guess, slightly. the whole "he just fucks things all the time because of a tumor" thing didn't really hit the mark for me it didn't quite land as funny nor like, an interesting way for dean shetty to one up him ... how man things he fucked in that montage IN PUBLIC SPACES i don't believe that it isn't ALREADY on instagram lol
Sam... I do like, big creds to his actor whose name i dont recall for making him so charming and sympathetic but also at the same time I am feeling a ~little~ like it's falling into that sorta fetishizing mental illness trope idk how to describe it but like similar vibes i got from anytime people (women) would go "crazy" on j*ss wh*don shows... idk idk i'm gonna see if i can find any perspectives from people with schizophrenia about this portrayal bc I don't know too much about it tbh! but yeah i... i dunno yet
i'm glad they confirmed giant emma is a thing too lol but imagine growing that large and then your bits are just on full display to everyone. your giantized bits. enlarged for easy viewing. i know a lot of people become naked with their powers in this universe so it's probably not AS weird for them but .. lol
ON THAT NOTE... JORDAN should share their secret for magic clothing that fits you perfectly no matter when your body changes with emma. lmao i kid but it's weird to me that every other character on this show whose power morphs their body in such a way that clothes would fall off or get destroyed (Emma, Golden Boy, etc) or otherwise be impracitcal (Translucent and the other invisible RA guy), they stick to the "realism" in that sense... which is just making me fixate on how the FUCK do jordan's clothes work? i mean, they have great style, but also their outfits fit PERFECTLY in both forms. and i'm like how? how does that work? they are very different sizes. Also like... are they wearing a bra? looks like it at least in some of the outfits w the tight shirts. Where's the bra go when they go into masculine form? huh? i wouldn't be asking these questions at all if the show didn't specifically call attention to clothing with everyone else's powers lmao.
Also I have to say the dick exploding scene felt really random and unnecessary .. there are times when the audacious/gory scenes on this show (and The Boys) really work but a handful of them on this show so far aren't hitting quite as much for me and feeling more like they just insist upon doing more of them to remind you "this is a The Boys spinoff!!! remember??? it's The Boys!!! Exploding Dicks!!!" like it'd be OKAY if you went an episode without genitals exploding... this show is already different... there's still people dying... we know...
intrigued by the teaser about the memory loss or whatever's going on w that...
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The Monster You Created Pt.6
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(Sam Fortner x Reader)
Warnings: Yandere!Sam, Dark themes, Swearing, Kidnapping situation, Unreciprocated love, Sam is v delusional, Murder visualization, Possessiveness, Brief victim blaming, Manipulation
Word Count: 4.1k
(S/n) = Similar Name to yours
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( Sorry for the late update! Game of Thrones has taken over my life and I’m suffering major brainrot of it )
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“-and she was telling me that “snow can conceal but it can also reveal”, that’s what she told me right? So they might briefly be able to conceal their, uh, whereabouts, but all that blood spilled into all that white snow is bound to leave a trail leading straight to them. Her words exactly. Like, wow.” Sam said on the couch under a cap and his passionate eyes shaded by sunglasses while restating your personal analysis of the film from last night. “I didn’t know that, did you know that?”
Doctor Alan Strauss shook his head with an amused small smile. “I never thought about it in that way.” Sam threw his hands out with an enthusiastic laugh and big smile. “Exactly!” He sighed joyfully, not being able to cease his wide smile. “She is so smart, it's unbelievable.”
Alan nodded along until he decided to finally bring up the issue that’s been affecting their every therapy session. “Gene, I find it very endearing how much you love your girlfriend, but we’re here to talk about you. Need I remind you that I am not a couple’s counselor.” Sam’s smile slowly lowered and he looked to his hands in his lap. “Yeah, I… I know.”
Alan tilted his head vaguely as he noticed Sam’s energy die down like a candle once he got him to shut up about his girlfriend. “Gene, we’ve been meeting for quite awhile now and I… still feel like I don’t know much about you. I know more about your girlfriend than I do you. You spend most of the session talking about your girlfriend, (S/n), and the rest of the time I feel like you’re waiting for me to mention something related to her so you can bring her up again. And I've noticed that… you're not really opening yourself up to me.”
He noticed Sam’s clear displeasure at his prying as Sam wrung his hands together in an anxious manner. “Whenever I ask for stories or details, you have a tendency to get kind of vague or you redirect the conversation back towards (S/n). And I've noticed that I myself am feeling a little frustrated by this process. When we first started talking, you said to me that you wanted to get better for her. And the more I listen to you… continuously talk about her I’m starting to worry about the possibility of you being a little… dependent on her in an unhealthy amount.”
Sam didn’t tear his gaze away from his twisting hands, too focused on containing his expanding desire to lash out at his therapist for saying such a thing. He loved you, simple as that. Maybe Dr. Strauss has just never seen such passionate love before and didn’t understand it. Yeah, that was it! He just didn’t understand! He didn’t understand the connection you and he had. No one did. Not even his own therapist who he was paying to at least pretend to understand.
Alan disappointedly sighed at his patient's silence, even though he knew from experience that was the average reaction when telling someone what their real problem was. “I have an experiment for you.” He said which finally brought Sam’s attention back on him, a little more on edge than previously. “I think you should start spending a little less time with your girlfriend, and focus more on yourself and your mental recovery.”
Sam stared at the professional across from him, his upper lip slightly lifting. “You think we should break up?”
Alan sensed his client’s tensity, even through his dark sunglasses. He knew he had to choose his words carefully, he learned through some of their deeper sessions that talking with him about the things he has strong feelings or opinions about was like walking on a minefield. You never know when you might step on a trigger for an explosion. “No, I suggest maybe taking a break and go back when you’re feeling-”
“No!” Sam instantly snapped, a mine being set off, before recoiling back into the couch and clearing his throat from his unprepared temper burst. He shook his head while pursing his lips. “I… I won’t do it. I-I need her. When I’m away from her, I get so…” his fingers curled as he struggled to find the words, “like, so physically ill… and weak.”
Alan nodded at this with concern tugging his lips, mentally noting how defensive he got over the questioning of his relationship to his girlfriend. “It sounds to be that your… attachment to her is very similar to an addiction. And a healing strategy they encourage in rehab is slow withdrawal. You might face some painful symptoms but Rome wasn’t built in a da-”
“I think our time is up.” Sam interrupted rather dryly while rising to his feet, cutting off Dr. Strauss’ reach and closing himself off before he had the chance to enter. Alan glanced at the clock and responded calmly while looking up at his escaping patient. “We still have 20 minutes.”
Sam begrudgingly shook his head as he snatched his empty large Dunkin cup from the table that sat between the two facing chairs. “I gotta get going.” He said quickly as he darted out of the house in a heated haste, desperately needing fresh air to calm his huffing breaths from the rage he felt fuzzing up his senses.
Everyone was trying to tear the two of you apart. Everyone.
Even his own therapist was against his love for you, against the two of you being together. Not a soul understood which made him certain that no one alive had ever really experienced real love before. They were all either ignorant or jealous or lecherous.
Everyone was trying to take you away from him. Everyone was trying to devour you or taint you or just use you for their own selfish needs. Sam had already come to the conclusion that he was not a monster, everyone else were the monsters. The monsters that could never be trusted, the monsters whose minds were full of nothing but filth and greed. They were all cruel and ignorant. Every single one of them. In a state of sizzling rage boiling over the pot, Sam fantasized that if he had it his way then anyone who dared tried to keep the two of you apart or even imply it would drop dead in their next breath.
Sam squeezed his grip around the steering wheel of his truck, his eyes blown open as his pupils nearly shook like his iris’ were trying to keep his fury concealed. No matter how many people he had killed, he felt as if rivals or embodied problems just multiplied. And he repeated that thought in his head like a chant as he somehow found himself staring at the residence of the one he wanted to take his anger out on so badly right now.
He watched the man from your work, who had his sights set on your behind when you left his table, as he carried a full black garbage bag to the bin outside of his house. Sam didn’t move as he stared with flared eyes, his breath almost going silent to muzzle his anger with every ounce of his willpower.
He wished the man would just go blind, maybe that would teach him not to look at such areas on your body in such a disgusting way. He wished to rip his tongue out to prevent him from ever talking about you to others in such a filthy way again. And he wished to chop off the arm you had touched, jealousy streaming through his veins like lava as he wondered why the hell would you touch him like that and not Sam?
But he chose to ignore his own wishes and just imagine these desires in his head in intensely graphic detail. He imagined himself getting out of his car and marching right up to the man and plunging his thumbs all the way through his eye sockets. He imagined the blood running down his cheeks like tearful mascara.
He kept this all in his imagination though and repeatedly told himself to just go home, looking at the man was just making him angrier and more energetic to eliminate him. But he couldn’t. As much as he wanted to and as much he whole-heartedly believed your life would be better without him living, he knew that would postpone Sam’s recovery to be normal so that you and him could live a normal life.
And so, even when his mind was running a thousand miles per hour over who else he wished to butcher, he turned his car back on and drove home back to you. But not before picking up dinner though of course since that was the reason he went out in the first place. But even after the drive and during eating dinner with you, his previous thoughts still infested his mind like the plague.
It leached onto his nervous system as when he would take a bite out of his food he would chomp down harshly with a tightly gripped jaw; a white knuckled hold on his fork as his eyes were chained to the table because looking at you just made his anger worse. It wasn’t you who he was mad at of course, but looking up at your fragile form and seraphic eyes only reminded him of the ones who wanted nothing other than to take advantage of your indiscriminate altruism and cruelly rip you from his loving embrace.
It wasn’t until the remembrance that you wanted him to be open about who he had killed and who he had thought about killing crossed him that he finally said the first thing said in the tensely quiet dinner. “That guy who… who checked out your ass and is friends with my boss, I went back to his house again.”
Your eyes perked up towards him, your heart almost skipping a beat from the sudden break of silence. You felt your worries tug your eyebrows up as you feared where he was going with that statement.
Sam poked at his food with his fork as he continued, only giving you quick glances. “I figured I'd be okay, since what you said about feeling better knowing you’re here.” He took a slow breath, almost antagonizing your suspense. “I sat in my car across the street, and watched him take out the trash.” He paused. “I did the whole thing in my head, every second.”
You swallowed thickly, feeling relief grasp your fragile heart but not all the anxiety drained from your ribs. Not as clear indignation was still affecting Sam’s composure as he looked up at you with those dead eyes that had a tendency to come and go during the times where your fright was at its most sensitive.
“I-I want to show him… I-I want to teach him how to behave to things that don’t belong to him.” He spoke slowly as he huffed jagged breaths. “I… I still want to do it. God, even talking about it is making it worse.” He hunched over to shove a bite of food into his mouth to occupy his steaming energy.
As much as you wanted to snap at him saying you weren’t property or an object, you held back. You didn’t bother arguing over that with a man. But watching his anger gradually unfold in a sloppy entanglement of strings, a question raised to your mind in hopes of searching for more redeeming qualities in him. “For the others you… got rid of, was it always an impulse move you ended up regretting?”
“No.” Sam instantly said, not even giving it a second thought, in between bites. “They were all... I… Every one of them deserved it. And I don’t regret any of it.”
Your brows cinched together at this, your mind going back to when he told you everyone he had unnecessarily killed over you. “Even the guy I gave CPR to at work that one time?” Sam rolled his eyes as his jawline became prominent. “Especially him. I know what was running through his mind when you had your hands pressed up against him. That asshole was enjoying it and getting his disgusting kicks.”
You bit your tongue to prevent yourself from saying something along the lines of ‘no, you just know that’s what you would think you pervert’. But instead you just stuck to a short statement defending that poor victim. “He was choking.”
Sam fleetingly clenched his teeth as he shook his head in denial. “Fucking sly bastard was faking it, he knew what he was doing.” His clenched fists began to twitch in his lap as he thought back to that day, suddenly wishing he had given him a more painful death. Your eyebrows furrowed together even deeper. “He was turning blue and his eyes were rolling all the way to the back of his head.” Sam didn’t respond and only shook his head again as he slightly rocked back and forth on his heels while heated huffs populated his nose.
“And what about-” Sam roughly dropped his fork and leaned back in his chair to send you an angered glare. “I don’t know why you keep asking about them. They’re dead now.” He said with a venomous bite in his voice.
Your bottom lip fell from your top, shocked and quite offended that he would just brush all those deaths under the rug. They needed to be addressed whether he liked it or not. “Yeah. Because of you.” You snapped back, copying his glare.
Sam leaned back forward so that his elbows were back on his knees, his once furrowed brows now curving up. “They tried to take you away from me! I had to do something!��� He exclaimed as his eyes dilated with depravity interlaced by the seams of desperation. “I told you they couldn’t be trusted. I got rid of them before they became an even worse problem for you. You’re better off without them anyway.” He declared with a dismissive headshake.
You leaned forward as well, your brows pinching together. “And what do you think gives you the right to make those decisions for me?” Sam released a breathy chuckle in disbelief, staring at you as if you were crazy. “We were made for each other, can’t you see that?!” He exclaimed like it was the most obvious thing in the word; his tone desperate and pathetic, almost sounding as if he were begging you to agree.
“None of them appreciate you like I do, none of them understand you like I do. Why can’t you see that? None of them come close to deserving you.” He smacked his hands on his knees to push himself to a stand, too caught up in the swirling storm of greedy desperacy. “And call me selfish, I don’t care, but I can’t share you with anyone else. I won’t.” He shook his head as he looked to the ground with hardened eyes while turned away from you, his lips pressing into a thin line. “Even thinking about you with someone else makes me want to throw up.” He said with big eyes, blown open in a state of animalistic possessiveness of something that was never his to begin with.
Sam’s tamed restraints were loosening and his mask of sane love was slipping, you could hear it through the drowsy glorification of fixated obsession of his ramble and you could see it through the way his jealousy tightened the muscles in his face.
You stiffened in pure dismay, watching him unfold then wrap his exposed emotions back in again as you tried to understand the enigma that was his deep rooted passion for you and how he went about it.
Now you were certainly no stranger to witnessing someone express their jealousy over you, having been subjected to receiving interrogations from your boyfriend over his allegation of your faithfulness when you got too touchy with one of your guy friends. You’ve never been a fan of the emotion as nothing good ever came of it.
Looking back on your friendship with Sam, you were shockingly disappointed that you hadn’t noticed Sam’s jealousy when it was literally right in front of you every single time you briefly conversed with any other person about literally anything. Living with your boyfriend you’ve grown familiar with recognizing jealousy forming. But perhaps Sam had trained his face to remain neutral during moments he surely would’ve imploded if he were alone.
And with your naivety to his burning jealousy came your naivety to his true feelings about you. But looking back you should’ve seen it coming, at least notice how similar his mannerisms around you were to a crushing little school girl.
His feelings for you were almost difficult for you to understand. You thought back to the statement someone had once said in your philosophy class: that love was just a normalized form of insanity. You always had mixed feelings in that debate but now you started to wonder if love wasn’t insanity but instead love causes insanity. You didn’t know what Sam’s mental state was like before meeting you so you weren’t sure if you were really the cause of his sanity’s downfall.
But either way you know that there is something wrong with him; something sickeningly distorted within his fogged mind of fixation that made him take love too far. Maybe he just didn’t know how to express his feelings nor how to go about dealing with the pain love inevitably came with.
Why was this happening? Why you? Was your kindness really so foreign or warm to him that it was enough to push him down the rabbit hole of hysterical adulation? Were you really that desirable in Sam’s eyes that he would inflict life-ending violence on all those who posed a threat to your peace or to him obtaining you?
God, maybe you were still clinging to the image of that endearingly awkward man you’ve grown to value as a true friend rather than a regular customer but you just couldn’t picture him hurting anyone no matter how many times he had confessed to doing so. You had such love-hate feelings for Sam, love for the friendly bond you still experienced such a weakness against and hate for how he ignorantly wreaked havoc over you by holding you prisoner until the stockholm syndrome kicked in, him being delusionally isolated from the knowledge that his actions were only creating a bigger rift between you and falling for him.
It wasn’t until a thought was birthed into your mind that you started coming to your own conclusions that could possibly convince Sam to second guess his choices. Sociopaths couldn’t feel love, so maybe he was just manipulating himself into believing he loved you.
“I know you said you don’t take pleasure in killing but… are you sure? Maybe you’re just using me as an excuse and a justified reason.” You asked carefully, looking up at him with quiet eyes as your heart was racing over the fear you were being too risky with his temper that was already kicking in the moment.
And you were right, your question caused Sam to snap his head over to your direction. His small pupiled eyes were venomously glossy with his nostrils flared and his lips parted with a grip, his brows pinching together. You felt your whole body flinch in a flight mode of fear as he suddenly started marching back towards you with a raised volume and harsh tone in his voice.
“I only kill because of you! Maybe if you would stop talking to so many peo-” He bit back his words into his throat as he noticed the way your shoulders tensed and you slightly twisted on your core as if you were bracing for him to assail you, your bottom lashes smeared with slimy tears.
He took a step back from your fear-stricken form as he ran one hand through his dark hair and the other held palm out to you in an attempt to say he meant no harm. “Ah shit, I’m sorry. God, fuck, I… Don’t be scared, I’m not mad at you, I could never be mad at you. It’s them. It’s them I’m mad at, not you.”
You hadn’t even realized your own reaction until you swallowed the thick lump in your throat and sniffle through your nose. You gulped again as you craned your eyes away from Sam and occupied your hands by rubbing them on either of your elbows to comfort yourself, just like what your mom would do with you after your dad had screamed at you till the point of your pouring tears. “I think it’s time for me to go to bed.” You said through a tight throat as you stood up to walk back over to lay in your bed, cursing yourself for reacting that way in front of Sam.
Sam speechlessly watched as you slipped under the covers and wrapped yourself up in a way to cradle yourself. He didn’t want you to cower in the corner and hug your own body to comfort yourself, that was supposed to be his job! He wanted you to love him enough to go to him for a protective embrace for safety and comfort.
He didn’t mean to lash out at you like that! He didn’t mean to blame you for your own nature. And he certainly didn’t mean to scare you nor make you fear that he was going to hit you. He would never hit you, he was not his father. He just wanted you to get that already! Why couldn’t you understand?
He felt his own throat grow heavy as he watched as you tried to restore yourself back together from the emotional injury of his outburst. Sam bit his lip, dragging his teeth as his gaze sharpened on you. “You probably think I’m nothing more than a monster while all I do is try to protect you.” He said to you, not even realizing the snotty defensiveness in his vocal chords.
It was silent for a few moments, like it was taking a millennium for his words to echo to your ears, and he started to believe you weren’t going to say anything at all. Sam sighed in disbelief, darting his eyes around the room at how this night ended as he turned for the pursuit of his room. Your soft voice, however, spoke up and halted his tracks.
“…I know.”
Sam quickly looked over you, his features softening to match your tone and his eyebrows raised. “Y-you do?”
Your face remained concealed from his wondrous stare as your hunched shoulder along with the thick blanket were blocking the view of your compact smirk. “Yeah, I… I understand that you were just trying to help me. I can’t blame you for being concerned. Maybe I am not a very good judge of character which practically makes me a walking target for social parasites.”
Sam felt a smile twitch the corners of his lips. You were finally getting it! You were finally facing your flaw that made him required to physically harm people. Sam said with a consoling tone of voice, “You’re just too trusting. It’s not your fault. You’re a genuinely good person, pure of heart, too good for this world. In fact, you deserve the world.”
He said all of this with such tender fondness that you almost forgot what kind of person he was; forget your state of lack of freedom and choices. This has happened many times, where he wasn’t shouting either in passion or anger and he just spoke gently with you. Those were the times when you actually believed he loved you and cared deeply about you. Those were the times you hardly believed he was savagely hurting people outside of the house. You would keep forgetting of the rotten part of your reality when he acted this way, it was a complete mindfuck.
And maybe sometimes you liked to pretend that you weren’t a prisoner and he wasn’t a murderer. Pretend your chain didn’t exist and you were just spending the night at your dearly beloved friend’s house. Or just for experimenting, pretending that you and Sam were a healthy and loving couple.
You pondered the question of what if Sam confessed his concealed love to you before kidnapping you. You felt too biased now to ever actually know if you would’ve given him a chance, whether you had a boyfriend or not. But maybe if he told you the truth or even waited long enough for you to start feeling strong feelings for him too, things would have gone much differently. Maybe the two of you could’ve been a happy couple.
But that was only what could have been; what might have been.
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I love the Padalecki's a lot both Jared n Gen. I like them both individually and as a team. Having said that I did resonate with your post a lot coz I feel some of things that you said do resonate in terms of what we've seen lately.
You said something like addiction or lack of freedom - is this wrt Jared? Given his MH struggles he definitely has to manage and regulate his life very much hence the need for that rigourous routine that he follows. The fact that he is unable to do that due to his knee must not be so great.
This card according to many sources often suggests there are either problems with addiction and possibly obsessions or there's a sense of oppression, dependency and perhaps a sense of frustration with limitations and a lack of freedom. This card can also suggest there are some hidden desires and fantasies that are 'tempting" to fulfill. I recall a quote I read where he said something asking the lines of his heaven he imagines for him is being able to love freely. I don't believe that this is related to Jensen as some people believe. I do believe however Jared has more subliminal messages in what he says than people realize.
2. What do you think are the things Jared regrets? Is it perhaps relating to SPN n not leaving early enough?
3. They obviously love and respect each other a lot but do you think they are both chasing different professional goals. Could this be a reason for the loss of their intimacy?
4. I know that Jared credits her with saving his life and making a lot of sacrifices for the family. Could it be that it's what driving her to have her own identity through the social circle that she is trying to build really quickly? N by doing so she is leaving herself vulnerable without proper checks and balances in terms of who she lets in. She is obviously very beautiful along with having a great personality so yeah ppl can become obsessed with her.
Coz even I've been getting this feeling a lot lately that she shouldn't be posting as much as she is. I am a very intuitive person as well so the fact that both us feel this way is making feel very nervous.
5. In opposition to her, Jared has shut his social interactions down and is really maintaining a low profile. I feel there is a story here. I intuitively feel that he is working on something massive away from acting more on the lines of producing and therefore SM and fans are just not his focus at the moment. Do you think he is about to land on a huge deal or Career opportunity?
6. Finally last but not the least, what do you think about the J2 relationship at the moment. They go through phases of either being very touchy feely or having an awkward energy between themselves. Do you think they will ever truly forgive each other for prequelgate? Will work together on SPN again. My intuition says that SPN has breathed it's last with J2. I think they could bring it back with Jared at the helm with a recast of young Sam n Dean ( with a bit of a fresh story take).
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"1. You said something like addiction or lack of freedom - is this wrt Jared? Given his MH struggles he definitely has to manage and regulate his life very much hence the need for that rigourous routine that he follows. The fact that he is unable to do that due to his knee must not be so great."
First of all, thank you for sending in this ask! I'm glad to hear that my post resonated with you, although I agree with you that in some respects it's worrying (Gen needing to post less because of the people watching her a bit too much). When I speak of The Devil card for Jared, I believe the lack of freedom tidbit applies. Jared comes across as a dreamer and an idealist to me big time, and I believe he probably envisioned his life as being different from what it is on a more personal level. Sometimes people get so "addicted" to daydreaming and "living in their heads" to where they can become out of touch with reality. I do believe however this reading does tie to Jensen in a few ways. One of them being that JA's drinking, which I do believe is one of the things that's starting to wear and tear on the J2 relationship.
Career wise, I think he seems pretty content where his career is headed right now for the most part. I think because of his knee and possibly some other health conditions he has that aren't really discussed in public that this could contribute to this feeling of "being trapped". I was told several times in the last year that Jared needs to check in on his respiratory health..
2. What do you think are the things Jared regrets? Is it perhaps relating to SPN n not leaving early enough?
6. Finally last but not the least, what do you think about the J2 relationship at the moment. They go through phases of either being very touchy feely or having an awkward energy between themselves. Do you think they will ever truly forgive each other for prequelgate? Will work together on SPN again. My intuition says that SPN has breathed it's last with J2. I think they could bring it back with Jared at the helm with a recast of young Sam n Dean ( with a bit of a fresh story take).
I know this might feel out of order as far as numerically goes so I apologize if that bothers you, but I wanted to tie the relevant questions together in this ask to try making it as short yet deep and thorough as possible. The things I think he regrets right now pertain to his personal life. Prequel gate certainly did not help matters, let alone the fact The Winchesters was objectively speaking a fail. I believe the fact J2 didn't make TW together does speak of how tightly tied the SPN fandom is to J2 specifically.
I think that there were many things SPN never touched on or barely discussed that could revive SPN (ex. fairy tablet and Faye realm, how souls are really created, Chuck turned out to be a false God, Dean's death and Sam's life afterwards were just a dream, storylines like this could be done to revive SPN). I've made some posts about my own experiences and what I know about "the other side" that could be storylines on their own. The writers of SPN and believe it or not The Winchesters generally had decent "divine hearing" as they picked up on things about "the other side" that others did not.
As far as the J2 relationship, I think one of the biggest things Jared likely regrets how things are between him and JA right now behind closed doors (some of what we see publicly is definitely smoke and mirrors). I highly suspect that there's a 3rd party that's driving a wedge between them, a woman... for those reading this I am not saying it is Danneel because it's not mainly her from what Poseidon's told me. However, Danneel is not helping matters, and frankly should've had NOTHING to do with The Winchesters or SPN at all. I suspect JA's personal life choices that people aren't aware of but some bloggers (some of them also being seers) here on Tumblr speculated on are impacting the J2 relationship more heavily than people are aware of.
I did not mention in the last ask this tidbit of information BUT I also got the 6 of Pentacles card, as seen in the photo above. In my deck the Tarot Nova, this card is portrayed as a loaf of bread. The general meaning of this card is this is a card of giving and receiving but can also connotate to one-sided charity (or possibly ulterior motives behind one's generosity), self-care, and unpaid debts. On a surface level, this would pertain possibly to Jared reaping the benefits of what he's sowed in the past as I do think his career is on a high note.
HOWEVER, in the Tarot Nova this particular card is portrayed as looking like a loaf of bread. For some reason when I received this reading I felt like this particular card has a different meaning and it was hardcore standing out to me for some reason. On a hunch, I looked up the Instagram selfie a fan took with Jensen and looked at the OP's profile. The bible verse 2 Corinthians 9:10 was quoted on his profile. Doing a quick Google search, I saw that it says this: "Now he who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will also supply and increase your store of seed and will enlarge the harvest of your righteousness."
Some people might say well JA is greedy and that this bible verse can't possibly be applicable. I've learned when it comes to working with deities including Poseidon (Jared's higher self), Hermes and Hades (Jensen's higher selves) and really all other deities, you can't really take things at face value and have to look at how things are connected. This connection signifies that JA and JP are more tied together spiritually than people realize (were actually supposed to incarnate as 2 souls in 1 man but things didn't quite go according to plan), which can explain why they are at times very "in sync" and not realize it...
3. They obviously love and respect each other a lot but do you think they are both chasing different professional goals. Could this be a reason for the loss of their intimacy? 4. I know that Jared credits her with saving his life and making a lot of sacrifices for the family....
Okay now with the Padalecki's marriage, from a psychological point of view many people who are parents feel a loss of freedom. Parenting is the hardest job there is, everyone's got opinions on it but no one's situation is the same. As far as career goes, I think that it may be a small contributing factor. I think however that where things are not so great is there's too much care and focus on public image. Jared's comfort is in wearing the beanie this fandom is well aware of. I saw in the book review video Gen told him to not put it on, which is rather puzzling.
I think that when Jared was gone a lot this may have hurt things but in a video someone sent me a few weeks back that Gen made (albeit while drunk clearly) in response to someone asking how she handles Jared being gone all the time, Jared and her agreed that he would not be gone out of the house for over 2 weeks at a time, and also quietly said "it's in our contract". This may in part explain why Jared always flew home while they were in Canada filming SPN "to be with his family". As far as the "contract" goes, a lot of people will say "TOLD YOU IT WAS A PR MARRIAGE!" Reality is, when it comes to affluent people many will come up with prenuptial agreements including some expectations and "requirements" in the marriage prior to getting married and what they want to happen should they get divorced (who gets what).
What people don't understand is that if there are any ridiculous stipulations in a so called "prenup", such as not going over a certain weight or demanding sex X number of times a week (looking at you Jennifer Lopez), this can actually make it so a prenup is ruled unenforceable by a judge. Prenups also can't dictate things after divorce like child support, child care or how much time each parent spends with their child(ren).
4. (con't.)... Could it be that it's what driving her to have her own identity through the social circle that she is trying to build really quickly? N by doing so she is leaving herself vulnerable without proper checks and balances in terms of who she lets in. She is obviously very beautiful along with having a great personality so yeah ppl can become obsessed with her. Coz even I've been getting this feeling a lot lately that she shouldn't be posting as much as she is. I am a very intuitive person as well so the fact that both us feel this way is making feel very nervous. 5. In opposition to her, Jared has shut his social interactions down and is really maintaining a low profile. I feel there is a story here. I intuitively feel that he is working on something massive away from acting more on the lines of producing and therefore SM and fans are just not his focus at the moment. Do you think he is about to land on a huge deal or Career opportunity?
I think Jared is focusing a lot on his career more and that he is working on something behind the scenes. With what's going on right now however with the actors strike and now the writer's strike I do think that this is not likely the whole story. I strongly suspect a lot of the problems he is struggling with are personal (externally and internally), and not so much career or even financially. Almost half of the cards I saw going back to the reading I did were cups, which is the suit in tarot that pertains to matters of the heart and a couple of wands.
Gen is trying to create an image for herself outside of being known as "Jared Padalecki's wife", which I don't think Jared minds. I do think however Gen is more sheltered and in ways moreso than others her age group are and that we seem to mutually feel more comfortable with. The visions I've been having of a dark haired woman in a bar with a man approaching her rather aggressively have been very vivid I'd say over the last 3-4 months. It's interesting you say you've been having these feelings a lot lately, not sure how long they've been around for. I mentioned the pendulum/abc chart reading I got about the hellhound watching over Gen specifically especially when Jared is gone was a highly worrisome reading I got about a week and a half or so ago, and then I received that initial ask about if I've done a tarot reading on Jared and Gen days later? Weird timing if you ask me...
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Hiiiiiii it’s a shitty Tuesday morning at work and I can’t stop thinking about a clumsy, fumbly jumbo himbo bucky :’) like he’s so big that what was just being uncoordinated when he was slimmer is now just banging into shit, having to back into slim doorways and Steve (or Sam) constantly having to help him pick stuff up he’s dropped, and kissing the bruises on his fat hips and sides he gets from bumping into things :’) and when they ask him what happened he’s just like “I don’t knowwwww, I wanted the chocolate bar I left in the fridge and I got too excited and slammed my fat hip into the counter trying to get it” lmfao. He also always drops crumbs and bits of food down his front and they land on the shelf of his belly and he has to brush them off or bring bigger bits back to his lips so he can inhale them like a fucking vacuum :’) sorry this is all over the place my thoughts aren’t fully formed yet this morning lol
I hope all the Tuesdays you've had since you sent this in have been much better! (and I'm sorry it's taken me an embarrassing amount of time to get to it 🤭)
Okay, but-
Clumsy, fumbling, jumbo himbo Bucky
I love him 🥰
And your thoughts about him are Perfect. This is so, so good.
So good, in fact, that it inspires me to think about this idea and add to it! With an idea that you didn't outright mention but is related...
Weight gain denial.
Or, not even really denial, but obliviousness. Like, you said himbo so I'm going full H I M B O with this shit-
Unbeta'd stucky belly kink ahead!! Warning for oblivious weight gain, himbo Bucky, kinda to the point of dumbification, some body worship, etc.
Bucky doesn't even really realize why he's suddenly more clumsy than he's been in the past. The new influx of bruises all over his body makes no sense to him- what's different? Why is he suddenly hitting his hip on the corners of furniture all the time? Why is he running into door frames now? Why does he keep falling back onto his ass when he gets up off the couch in a hurry? Why are all his shirts stained over the tummy? Normally the food drops right onto the table when he spills, not onto himself. He doesn't understand because he hasn't been doing anything different... right-? So, what's going on?!
Wrong.
Bucky has been doing a lot differently. Not that he's realized it yet...
Bucky is fresh out of college and is no longer a student-athlete (in that he's not a student or an athlete anymore) nor does he continue to have a teenage metabolism. He's getting older and while he's not old, not by a long shot, already the hummingbird metabolism he had in his earlier years is slowing.
Despite those factors though - the non-activity and the slower metabolism - Bucky keeps eating like he always has.
And he had- he has the diet of a very, very active teenager. All sugar and junk food. Everything he consumes is frozen food or fast food, it's the cheapest and it's the easiest. Bucky has a new job he's trying to figure out how to balance with the rest of his life after all! He doesn't want to figure out a "healthy diet". He is healthy! He's always been healthy as a horse. So... yeah. He doesn't think anything of it.
Not that anyone can blame him. They get it. You leave college, you put on some pounds. Usually, it takes longer than it's taken Bucky, he's really blown up fast, but that's no one's business. His body is allowed to change.
And all that makes it sound like people are telling Bucky about his gain, or they're commenting on his weight in some way. But, they aren't. No one is saying anything to Bucky. And Bucky is oblivious to himself. He knows his face is good- he's always been told so, at least. He knows he has a strong build. He has a boyfriend and loves their relationship. So, it's not like he's always looking in the mirror, keeping tabs on what his appearance is up to.
It all results in the fact that he has no idea what his body looks like.
And Bucky continues to have no idea about the weight piling on because Steve doesn't tell him either. Steve just winces when Bucky bangs his hip or shoulder or falls or whatever. Then, later, he asks if he can rub some lotion into the bruise. Even when there's not a bruise. Steve still asks. (Steve asks because there is often a bruise it's just... Bucky's growing belly or love handles hides the mark from his line of sight.)
Steve never tells him he's getting fat and he's fucking up his own balance and sense of self. Why would he tell him? Shouldn't he know? It's his body!
By the time Steve realizes, ooooh, he really has no idea, it's because Bucky keeps saying, genuinely, "I don't know what happened! I just turned the corner too fast and the doorway was right there, ready to attack my hip!" or "I don't know what happened! I just lost my balance when I tried to get up and fell back onto the couch, I didn't mean to squish you!"
He has no idea that he's grown from fit to chubby to fat.
Because he's fat now. There is no denying it for anyone but Bucky.
Bucky's face was once slim and sharp. It's not now. He's got chubby cheeks and a double chin. All this extra padding around his pretty, pretty smile and eyes. Bucky's shoulders have always been wide but they've gone from wide with muscle and strength to wide and soft with fat. His upper arms are wobbly and thick- same with his forearms and chubby fingers. The once-hard mounds of his pecs have turned jiggly and gone up more than a few cup sizes. Bucky’s belly is no longer cut with abs, instead, it rounds out in front of him. So heavy and ponderous and big that it sags with gravity; a swollen tear drop that's always tight at the top with his latest meal, only turning soft at the bottom where he's purely stretch-marked fat. Hips that were once trim have exploded out into a full-sized spare tire. Sometimes, in particularly small spaces, Bucky's hips already begin to stretch from side to side. Getting him stuck. He's wide as hell. Bucky's ass that once upon a time was tight and round and high is now thick, monstrous. Huge. It's huge. Still round but no longer tight since it's not muscle. It's fat. Squishy and thick. His thighs are no better. In college, Steve might've drooled over those thighs, thinking they could crush his head, so muscular, but now... Steve drools over the thought of biting them. One of Bucky's thighs these days is wider than both of his thighs used to be. Thick, pale, and soft. And still-
Bucky doesn't know.
He doesn't realize that he's gone from walking - as smoothly as Bucky ever could, he has always been clumsy after all - to lumbering. He nearly waddles around their small apartment now. Fat thighs rubbing together. Belly jiggling no matter how recently he's stuffed his face with tasty junk food. Stumbling into furniture and walls and everything.
Steve has to break it to his sweet, stupid, and fat boyfriend eventually. It's his responsibility after Bucky's right? Steve comes to this conclusion one afternoon. But, he waits for as long as he can...
He waits, a little selfishly, because he finds it strangely, overwhelmingly sexy to see Bucky wander around, adorably oblivious to how big he's become.
Eyes wide... lips pouty... belly massive... appetite always on full blast.
It's all too arousing to watch Bucky drop crumbs onto his puffy tits and bloated tummy during dinner. He picks the bits of food up with eager fingers and shoves them between his pink lips. How can he find the crumbs but not notice any of the extra fat? Steve is fascinated. It's also too much to watch, later, as Bucky nearly rolls off of their bed when they go to bed that night. Bucky hiccups - he's still full from dinner - and jokes about needing to get back to the gym and lift heavy things because he can't move around as well as he used to be able to once he lays down. He makes no mention of the huge boulder of a belly that might have something to do with it... it can't be that he's gotten heavier! No, his muscles must've just gotten weaker. It's all Bucky understands after all 🥺
Anyway, Steve cuddles up to his big boyfriend, massaging his gurgling belly.
I'll tell him in the morning, Steve thinks, smiling to himself at how Bucky complains in another perfect example of how much he REALLY doesn't know... he's been getting so hot at night lately! He always wakes up in the morning and has to shower because he's boiling and sweaty.
Steve kisses him and tells him he's fine. It's gotta be a result of sharing their body heat and using too many blankets. Nothing else.
But...
Steve now has a plan.
He's gonna jump in the shower with Bucky tomorrow morning instead of going on his usual run. And he's gonna wash every inch of Bucky himself. Every roll and swell of his gorgeous, fat body.
Steve can't wait to see him wet and soapy and slippery... glistening and dripping and fully bare. Stripped down to wearing nothing but the thick, red stretch marks all over him, a result of him putting on fat faster than his body knows what to do with it.
Yeah, yeah, he's gonna wash Bucky, standing behind him and whispering in his ear, "look down. Look at yourself, Buck. Tell me what you see, baby?"
In the current moment, Steve shifts, angling his hips away from Bucky's fat ass because he can feel his dick stirring just imagining Bucky's answer. "My belly?"
"Yeah, but what about your belly, silly boy?" He'll say, pinching his fat love handle.
"It's just, just my belly, Steve, what do you mean?"
"Don't you think it looks bigger than normal?"
"Uh? I guess? I'm just full, I think."
Steve will laugh. Steve will jiggle his belly, his fat rolling like waves, there's so much of it, "you just woke up, Buck. You haven't had a thing to eat. You can't be full."
"Oh."
"So... your tummy, silly, what's up with it?"
"It's. It's big."
Steve will groan. "Yeah?"
"It's so big."
Steve will find it hard to breathe.
"It's so big, Steve! When did it get so big?"
"It's been big for a while, Buck. You've been big. You've been growing since graduation, baby."
"Oh."
"What do you think of that, silly boy?"
"I-" Bucky has turned pink. "I feel good." His palms rub big circles over the sides of his fat tummy.
Steve won't be able to stop the loud groan from barreling out of his chest. He won't be able to resist leaning in and grinding his hard dick against his substantial ass, round and thick and soft and fat. "You feel so good, sweetheart."
"Steve-"
"Yeah?"
"Steve, I- I think wanna know how much I weigh. I... I wanna know how big I've gotten, is that okay?"
"God, yeah, that's okay, Buck. That's more than okay. Now that you know, you should explore it Buck. You've gotten so big. Do something with it."
"What if I wanna get bigger with it."
Steve won't have words for that. Just a turned-on growl.
"You 'kay, Steve?" A sleepy Bucky asks. Present day. This night. Yes. Right. In their bed. Steve is fully hard, throbbing, in their bed. Imagining tomorrow. Imagining rubbing himself all over Bucky's slick, soft fat while making Bucky discover his own increase. Showing him how fat he's gotten without even trying. And it's making him so hard that he just shuddered. In their bed. In this moment.
Steve swallows thickly, debating if it's worth getting out of bed to jerk off in the bathroom, thinking about fucking Bucky's thighs or, fuck, his fat rolls. "Y-yeah," Steve jerks into the real world, "yeah, Buck, I'm good. Go to sleep, baby."
I hope that was worth the wait! 😘 Thanks for the prompt!!
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Ex Wive's Club, Chapter 22
Word Count: 1.7k
Warnings: angst, cheating, manipulation (slightly)
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“Steve…what did you do?”
Steve frowned as his wife giggled over his little accident. The hair had been a mess at best, and he was regretting trying to learn about manscaping at all. 
“It wouldn’t have been so bad if your dad didn’t scare the shit out of me while I was doing it,” he grumbled, his perfectly plump bottom lip turning out to pout at his wife, “I swe-“
“Language…” she teased, placing a gentle kiss to his lips as she mocked how her husband would often tell anyone that cursed to watch their language, “you need to set the example, Captain!”
“Cami…”
“Steve…it’s not a big deal…” she shrugged as she glanced over his southern regions once more, “it’ll grow back.”
“I have no hair down there now,” Steve frowned as he looked at his smooth southern region, “I haven’t been this hairless since before I had the serum…I feel like a kid…it’s repulsive.”
“Well, I can definitely confirm that you are a man in every sense of the word…and that gorgeous thick cock of yours…that did well enough to place twins into me on our first attempt, is anything but repulsive.  You’re my sexy, virile husband, and I love every inch of you,” she smiled, pressing a passionate kiss to the super soldier’s lips.  Steve sighed against her lips, and she backed away, a frown now crossing hers when he didn’t kiss her back, “Steve?  Is everything okay?”
“Yeah…I jus-I think I’m going to go to bed after I wash the stray hairs away…I don’t feel sexy or virile right now, Cami!” he replied, backing away from her.  Cami went to reach out to him, but Steve had already retreated into the bathroom and the shower had started. 
Steve had thought about their disappointing encounter for days afterwards. 
Before, sex with Cami was amazing.  He felt like a real man.  In control.  On top of the world.  Like nothing could stop him as he took his wife in every way imaginable.  
But just a few nights ago, he felt like the fumbling virgin he was before he’d had the serum in his veins.   He felt unsure of every movement.  Self-conscious over the comments Sam and Bucky had made before he shaved. 
And it led to him not being able to get off, then giving up on the sex all together while Cami laid on her side of the bed, unsure on what to say to her normally self-assured husband. 
“Steve…”
“What?” the upset super soldier grumbled.  He felt the bed shifting, and her weight moving towards him.  He turned around in the bed and glared at her in the dark as she tried to reach out towards him.
“I-Is everything okay, Steve?” she asked sadly, “I-I mean…I know that it’s been a while since we-“
“I’m just tired, Cami.”
“O-okay…well if you want…I could…go down on you…”
Steve felt his stomach twisting in knots.  Cami reached down, her hand caressing over his thigh and edging towards his cock, but Steve gripped her hand before she could reach him, “don’t, Cami…I’m not in the mood…”
“A-are you sure everything’s alright between us?” she asked, “you’ve been off since you shaved…”
“I said it was,” he grumbled, pushing her hands away from his body, “just-just go to sleep and leave me alone…I shouldn’t have to tell you multiple times that I am not in the mood for relations…”
“I’m sorry Steve,” she sighed, sliding back to her side of the bed.  Steve watched her roll over so that she was no longer facing him, “I-I love you…”
“Goodnight Cameron.”
“Goodnight Steve…”
“Steve…”
Steve’s breath stole away in his throat. 
“How are you-“
“Where am I, Steve?” she asked curiously, her eyes wandering around the sterile lab, “W-where are we?  Why do you look-“
“Peggy…” Steve said in disbelief, her name slipping all too easily from his lips.  He looked towards Bruce who looked just as shocked as he was, “Bruce…how?”
“I-I don’t know!” he admitted as he stared at the machine she’d walked out of, “I-the calculations must have been very off!”
“Steve?”
Steve’s eyes shot back to Peggy, and a few tears welled up in his eyes, “Peggy…you’re here.”
“Where’s here, Steve?  Why are you getting emotional?”
“Peggy what year was it?”
“It’s 1945, Steve…I was just talking to you on the radio…you were about to go down.  How are you okay right now?  You were just-“
“Peggy…it’s not 1945…”
“Where am I, Steve?”
“The future…”
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“And who are you again?” Peggy asked curiously as she looked between Steve and Cami.
Cami reached beside herself and put her hand over Steve’s, “I’m Cami…his wife…”
“Oh…”
“Steve always talked very highly of you,” Cami said quickly as she tried to break the ice, “you really showed him the ropes when he became a super soldier…you believed in him when he wasn’t one too…you saw the amazing man that he was underneath everything!”
“I saw him for the man that he is!” Peggy said firmly, her eyes still on Cami’s hand which was over Steves.  Steve caught it and removed his hand from his wife’s.  Cami frowned, but Steve paid her no mind.
“You know…a lot has changed since 1945.”
“I see…”
“It’s been a few days…since you were brought here,” Cami said slowly, “now that your free from Bruce’s examinations, you might want a shower…change of clothes.  I can let you borrow some of mine for the time being.  I-“
“I doubt that your clothes would fit me…” Peggy frowned, “and they aren’t…my style.”
Cami frowned, suddenly feeling self-conscious over the way that she’d spoken, “I’m sorry.  I-I didn’t mean to come off as rude…I just figure-“
“Steve?” Peggy asked, turning her attention towards the super soldier, “What is it, exactly that I’m doing in your time?  Why am I here?”
“I don’t know,” Steve admitted nervously, “Bruce was working on something that would help with making sure the stones stayed in their rightful place…and then you showed up.”
“Stones?”
“It doesn’t matter,” Steve said with a shake of his head, “Cami is right though…we should get you settled in for the time being.  We don’t know how long it will take Bruce to get the machine fixed, or if he can even send you back.”
“Cami…you need to be nicer to Peggy…”
“Nicer?” Cami scoffed as she glared at her husband, “Peggy is the most inconsider-“
“She’s scared of our time,” Steve said quickly, cutting his wife off, “you remember how scared your dad gets with new things…how I get antsy?  Well, Peggy’s dealing with a similar thing.”
“She treats me like dirt, Steve,” Cami complained, “and she’s always finding some ass backwards way to insult me!  I don’t think the times scare her.  I think that she’s just a cu-”
“No she’s not.”
“Just the other day she said that my outfit was ‘manly,’ and that I could stand to lose a few pounds if I wanted anyone to think I was a woman.”
“She’s just not used to the way that women dress nowadays,” he said quickly, trying to pass off her insult as anything more than a cultural misunderstanding, “Cami, she-“
“She called me fat, Steve!  She called me a fat man!”
Steve frowned, “I-I’m sure you’re just reading into things too much, Cami…she wouldn’t say that.”
“She did,” Cami growled, “and I’m getting sick of her being in the house.  She doesn’t help out at all, and the girls don’t like her.”
“Did you ever think that maybe you’re projecting, and it’s really you that doesn’t like her?” he asked, “Stephanie and Jami-“
“Oh, I know that I don’t like her.”
“Cami…please.  Peggy is a part of my old timeline,” Steve sighed as he looked at his wife, “I know that you don’t like her…but she knew a part of me that even your dad doesn’t…just…try a little harder to get along wit her…please?”
“Steve…”
“Please…for me, Cami.”
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“-and she’s clearly not agent material,” Peggy scoffed as she continued talking to Steve.  Steve frowned, listening to the woman he’d been in love with in the 40s talking down about Cami, “she should be at home with her children.  That’s where her real place is!”
“Peggy…”
Peggy put down her drink and looked at Steve who was standing beside her along her kitchen island, “what?  You think I’m wrong?”
“That’s my wife…”
“And she kicked me out of the house so that I had to find a place in this tower,” she scoffed, shooting him another look.  Steve sighed once again, and Peggy bit her lip, “you know what I think, Steve?”
“Hmm?” he hummed.
“I think that wife of yours was just jealous!”
“Jealous?” Steve chuckled, now finding amusement in the situation, “what would Cami be jealous of, Peggy?”
“Our relationship,” she said firmly, “I mean, I was your first love, after all, wasn’t I?”
Suddenly, Steve felt a lump rising in his throat.  Peggy eyed him down, the smallest of smiles playing on her lips.
“You know…that day when you crashed into the ice…and you promised me a dance…”
“Peggy…” Steve said quickly, cutting her off.
“No, Steve,” she answered, with a shake of her head.  Steve felt his breath hitch as she pressed herself close to him, “that was my one regret…”
“Not dancing with me?”
“Not telling you how I felt sooner,” she whispered seductively, “Steve I-I told myself that I wouldn’t get feelings for you when we were in that program together…but I did.  I loved you with all of my heart, Steve…and when I thought-“
“Peggy…please,” Steve begged, not wanting her to continue, “I-I’m married…I-“
“I love you, Steve…” she whimpered, pressing herself incredibly close to him, “that never changed…even now.  I still feel that way about you.  Can’t you see that maybe this accident was an act of whatever god is out there?  That maybe this was meant to be our time together.  That this was our shot at having what was always meant to be?”
“Peggy…”
“Tell me  you don’t feel the same, Steve?” She asked gently, “tell me that you don’t feel the same way about me and I’ll walk away…”
“I-I can’t…” he admitted sadly, his own heart breaking over the fact that he knew there was still a part of him that had been in love with her, “I can’t say that I don’t have feelings for you, Peggy…because I do.  But I’m married.  I have Cami and my daughters and-“
But Steve was cut off when Peggy’s lips came crashing into his own.
And he didn’t push her away.
Not even as she pulled him towards her bedroom.
Chapter 23
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