some stuff about Sun and Old Moon's relationship I noticed!
Old Moon had no control when they were in the same body. And I think that fear of not having control worked its way into their relationship thereafter, with Moon always wanting to know what Sun was doing, when he'd be home, who he hanged around with and etc. He got upset when Sun tried to hide things/have privacy.
He got mad when Sun didn't agree with him (wanting control over his thoughts), yet had a tendency to do a lot without confronting Sun about it (letting Lunar into the family, putting the killcode in Sun, etc.)
He was also overly controlling by using threats, on some occasions. He threatened to 'turn Sun off' if he couldn't get Eclipse under control, and implied that he might hurt others if Sun couldn't help him (unintentionally manipulating Sun into not leaving him)
That, along with his self deprecation, gave Sun the idea that he was solely responsible for Moon's mental health and that Moon not doing well- Sun not being the source of his happiness- was a sign of Sun failing as Moon's brother. And all of the stuff I just said gave Sun the idea that he was too stupid to think of anything w/o Moon's help.
Now, time for some unrelated stuff gathered from old ramblings:
on the topic of control, the last thing Moon ever did to Sun was just like. put him in solitary confinement? Without telling him when he'd be back??
had this headcanon that Sun used to sleep on the couch in that balcony room because Moon had a tendency to run off w/o telling Sun, and if Sun was right there he would hear it if Moon got back while he was charging and would know Moon was safe
also the idea of a symbolistic comparison that's: Lunar's drawn picture of him, Sun, and Old Moon being happy (Despite the fact that they weren't really most of the time) compared to a framed photo of Sun, New Moon, and Earth being genuinely happy (right after Moon loses his memories).
Nothing between them is ever truly 'resolved' as they consistently bring up stuff that has supposedly already been dealt with in other arguments (AKA they fight mostly about the same stuff every time)
(Once again, this is all my interpretation of canon and you do not have to agree with me on it)
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Nota bene: Sun x Eclipse
" - I guess I never have to ask if you'd still love me if I was a worm.
- That was an awful joke".
Fanart for one scene from "Eclipse Meets His Match" (@emhm)
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I think I know why Earth saying that she doesn't want Solar back if he didn't remember her is upsetting me so much..
Because Sun went through the same but Earth never let Sun grieve properly after Old Moon's death and told him to move on (not in these exact words) because he has New Moon who cares about Sun etc.
And now when she understands how Sun felt back then.. she still didn't talk with Sun about it..
It's understandable that Earth wants Solar back with memories.. I also want Solar to have his memories intact..
But why Earth never talked with Sun about his loss? After experiencing loss herself?
That's why I consider Earth to be selfish.. She cares mostly about her own feelings - it's more aparent now when we see how she's dismissive of Sun's issues..
I think that it might be caused by how much Creator spoiled her.. Her upbringing is coming out more and more..
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It sounds a bit lonely, doesn't it? No family, no friends and you consider Bloodmoon only a pet -
You don't feel... even a little desire for a confidant? A trustee?
A friend?
Not in the slightest. I have all that I need.
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A little bit of comfort for Moon
So, I haven't stopped seeing how people negatively compare New Moon to Old Moon. But honestly? I don't see it.
New Moon has done things much better than his other self. Best brother, friend, person.
After watching the video where he talks to Money (Monty lol), I noticed the way Money talks about Old Moon.
Yes, he was a jerk, and he made mistakes again and again. But you know what? Moon had a friend next to him. Moon had Lunar and Sun next to him. Even with his mistakes, he had people who supported him and cared about him because they trusted that he could do things right if he did something right in time.
Currently, New Moon still has Sun by his side. Lunar, Monty, Earth, and he had (and I hope he continues to have) Solar by his side.
He is not the same person.
But he is the same Moon that his family and friends love.
So, in the good ways, it's him.
Despite everything, it's still him.
Also, I made this to celebrate the 2 years too, so happy 2 years TSAMS<3
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Sun and Eclipse SWAP PERSONALITIES in VRCHAT????
Jerk sun and Nervous Boi Eclipse yes yes
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