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ayyy-imma-ninja · 18 hours

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A few days ago, @meagancandraw (Night-Waker) and I did a lil' "what-if" scenario in a private server of what would happen if Moon punched Sun after a hallucination-driven breakdown and then ran off and was visited by someone who gave him the clarity he needed.

The following is what transpired:

NIGHT: He's starting to hallucinate, goes to hit one, and it ends up being Sun.

Sun: Moon-! Moon: DON'T TOUCH ME! (THWACK)

And that's when he snaps out of it-

ME: The sound echoes, bouncing off the walls and ringing in Moon's audio receptors. There's a frightening sting that spreads across the back of his hand. The swirling black and red of his vision vanishes practically in an instant as he stares mortified at Sun, who cups his cheek with an equally mortified look. What did he…? No…no no no what had he done-- ?: M-Moon…?!

NIGHT: Moon can only look at Sun, at the hand holding his cheek. It looks dented, and there's specks of dark blue visible between his fingers. Moon slowly looks down at his own hand, and sees where small streaks of paint have been violently scrapped off, exposing the grey underneath. He feels sick. Moon: I- ?: Sun! Lunar runs into the room (Oh God how long had he been standing there how much had he seen), asking Sun if he's okay. The sound is muffled to Moon, however, as he continues to stare at his hand. There's more talking - or is it yelling? - but he can't tell from who. All he hears is static. Horror blooms in his chest and spreads through his circuits

ME: Earth suddenly rushes in as well, looking between the two. She asks what happened but doesn't get an answer from either, so she asks Lunar, who fills her in. Her eyes widen and she looks to Moon- God that look…The way she looked at him--horrified, scared, angry--he couldn't bear it.

Before anyone can think to stop him, he turns and activates a random portal, and flees into it.

NIGHT: Moon [begins] spiraling and thinking his whole family must hate him. They should. Not only did he fail to protect Solar, now he's hurt Sun in front of them. He's a horrible brother. They don't deserve as terrible as him. Is hurting his family all he's good for?

ME: (imagine while in Beta 10 he starts hallucinating.)

"What, gonna start drowning in your own pity party again?"

He sees hallucinations of his family, one by one. Starting with Earth. Then Lunar. Then even Eclipse. Then Sun.

Then Old Moon.

All of them berating and sharp, pushing the dagger in deeper. "You promised you would be better." "Why weren't you honest with how you felt?" "You're a monster." "You're pathetic."

"You did the one thing I told you not to do." In the midst of the anguish as the people he loves drive home every wound, he hears a voice he doesn't expect and looks-

to see Solar.

Still a hallucination, but…he is different. He's not shouting at Moon for his failures, he's not calling him horrible things.

NIGHT: "Solar" asking Moon what he's doing here instead of being with his family Moon (crying): I don't deserve to be with them

ME: Solar: What makes you think that?

NIGHT: Moon: Because all I'm good for is hurting them! I hit Sun! I let you die! I can't protect anyone! I'm just as bad as the old me! ME: Solar: Moon. If that's all you ever see in yourself, then that is all you will ever be.

NIGHT: Moon: It's all I am! The old me killed himself because he thought that I would be better, but he was wrong! ME: Solar: Was he? NIGHT: Moon: Yes! Name one good thing I've done that didn't end up backfiring or making things worse for everyone!

ME: Solar: hm. Well…from what I heard about the guy, he didn't have a shred of empathy. So you got him beat on that front. NIGHT: Moon: Yeah… a lot of good that's done for me

ME: Solar: Yeah it has. 'Cept I don't think you actually see what good it's done. NIGHT: Moon: Like what? ME: Solar: well your brother, for one. Would you say you've grown closer since you re-awoke? NIGHT: Moon: I… guess? But I still hit him, and I promised myself that this version of me would never do that

ME: Solar: and you think he's upset with you?

NIGHT: Moon: Of course he is! Why wouldn't he be?!

ME: Solar: well, you kinda just ran before you could see what he'd say.

NIGHT: Moon: … Moon: That's because I'm a coward

ME: Solar: hm…didn't they say he was a coward, too?

NIGHT: Moon: Who?

ME: Solar: the old you. He ran from his problems too, didn't he?

NIGHT: Moon: That's part of why he made me. He had a lot of problems and regrets he couldn't face… If you're here to tell me that I'm doing the same thing right now, trust me, I'm well aware. I guess it's just another thing I have in common with the old me

ME: Solar: I don't think I'm here to tell you what you've already heard.

NIGHT: Moon: Then what are you here for?

ME: Solar: well? You don't want to be like him, right? And if he ran from his problems, what do you think you should do?

NIGHT: Moon: Yeah, I know… I just… (Sighs) I dunno… what if what happened is just the start? What if Sun and the others are wrong about me, and I just keep getting worse?

ME: Solar: everyone has highs and lows, Moon. And the lows can really suck sometimes. That's just how life is. But that's what family is for, yeah? To help pick you back up when you're down?

NIGHT: Moon: …You're right. Heh, even when you're dead you're right … (Tears up) God, I miss you

ME: Solar: (smiles) failing and making mistakes doesn't make you a bad person, Moon. It's how you respond that determines how things go.

NIGHT: Moon: I should probably get out of here, huh?

ME: Solar: they're probably out lookin' for ya right now

NIGHT: Moon: Yeah. I should- Sun: (From the entrance) Moon…? Are you here? Moon: Sun? (Looks over at Solar to see that he's vanished)

ME: Sun: (approaches, finds him staring at the mirror) …figured you'd come here

NIGHT: Moon: Actually, I set the portal to random … …Are you okay?

ME: Sun: (thinks for a moment). Not happy about being punched again, but…I'm fine. And…m-more worried about you, honestly.

NIGHT: Moon: I'm… better than I was earlier… Sun, I am so so sorry for hitting you. I don't think there are any words that can begin to tell you how sorry I am

ME: Sun: I know you're sorry. I do. But…Moon, this-- (sighs) This can't keep happening.

NIGHT: Moon: I know...

ME: Sun: Do you?

NIGHT: Moon: … Moon: The old me gave up his life so I could be the better version of him. I already told you what he told me: To protect our family no matter what. That's been my entire purpose since the moment I woke up, but lately it feels like no matter what I do, it's not enough. That I'm not enough. I keep thinking that if I was smarter like him, then Solar would still be alive, or if I did start killing anyone who was a threat - sure, it wouldn't be right, but you'd all at least be safe

…I'm terrified of becoming like the old Moon, Sun. That's the last thing I want, but KC's already dead, and if I can't keep our family safe, then that officially means the old Moon died for nothing! I know that's not an excuse, but I- I can't lose anyone else, Sun!

ME: Sun: we don't want to lose YOU, Moon! Why should protecting our family be only your responsibility?! Family protects each other, it's not supposed to be one person's burden! … The old Moon, he…I get he did what he did to keep me and everyone safe, but…it still hurt people. It still hurt me.

NIGHT: Moon: I know, and I'm sorry. … You're the most important person in my life, Sun. I love Lunar and Earth, but you're the one who keeps me going. It's your light and your strength that inspires me, and I want to protect that at all costs. I want to make sure nothing ever happens to you or the others, even if it means taking on that burden all by myself. I know it's not fair to you, or Lunar and Earth, but I… I don't think I know how to do it any other way. …But I'd like to learn

ME: Sun: (listens in silence, then after a moment he sighs) Moon. I know you mean well. But—I am not a child. I am not some delicate thing that needs protecting. I can handle myself. Earth can handle herself, we know that. Lunar…more or less. (sighs) But the fact is, our lives are not perfect. Things will happen whether we want them to or not. That’s just how life is. And if you’re so busy going around trying to protect US…then who is going to protect you?

NIGHT: Moon: (Ponders the question in silence) I've… never really considered that, to be honest. I didn't care what happened to me as long as you guys were okay. I can… see why that's a problem, now that I say it out loud… (Sighs) I really screwed up…

ME: Sun: yeah. You did. (he steps and engulfs Moon into a tight hug) but who hasn’t screwed up? I’ve made mistakes. Lunar, too. I’m sure even Earth has. But at the end of the day…we’re still a family, aren’t we? (he squeezes him) You’re a real idiot sometimes, Moon. But you’re still my brother, and you always will be.

NIGHT: Moon: (He hugs him back with his first genuine smile in a long time) Heh, thanks, Sun. I love you, brother

Unbeknownst to any of them, "Solar" is watching them as they leave the bunker. He smiles at the group before fading away…

--The end--

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ikamigami · 4 hours

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MY THOUGHTS ON SUN'S CURRENT STATUS IN SAMS AND WHAT HINTED THINGS MAY BE IMPLYING

I'm stating this just in case so no one could say that I'm saying it's canon or that I'm trying to say that the show is done if nothing from what I'm about to say will happen because that's not what I'm doing here. All I'm doing is posting my thoughts on my own blog.

Sun is doing better compared to last year, that's for sure.

But the thing is that Sun never sounds convincing when he's saying that he's fine - he isn't confident when he's saying this.

Ofc it's obvious that Sun isn't fully okay. But like I explained several times already - even if he expressed having suicidal thoughts several times (not so long ago even) he won't leave his family. He lives for them. But show recently repeatedly showed us that Sun is willing to throw away his own life to protect his family.

The show might be hinting to something with Sun's line "I wonder if it'd be better if Moon and I never separated" - which is obvious callback to episode with dimension where they never separated and Moon killed Sun - and with Molten mimicking Sun's voice - which might be a callback but is definitely a reminder of short arc with Mimic who was pretending to be Sun (coincidentally or not it's also the same episode where Sun told computer to shoot the lasers at him).

It's a bit sad to see that not only characters in the show (Earth) but also fans are ignoring Moon's concerns about Sun. Whether if there's a good reason for Moon to be worried or not, Moon's concerns should be treated seriously not because "oh something will happen to Sun" but for Moon's sake..

Have anyone wondered why Moon is keeping everything a secret?

It's obvious that he want to keep his family safe. But it wouldn't be surprising that Moon may also not feel comfortable with talking with his family about it - especially Earth - when his concerns were previously dismissed..

We can see that Moon is still scared that he may lose Sun. That's why he was dreaming that Sun died. Which whether we like it or not is partially Earth's fault because she didn't try to comfort Moon but she denied his worries in very hard way that doesn't allow a room for any objection..

Why am I pointing that Moon may not feel comfortable to talk with Earth about his secret?

Because even if he lied to Sun, he opened up to him about his thoughts regarding bringing Solar back - that if Ruin was still around would it be okay to sacrifice him to bring Solar back - which tells us a lot about how much different New Moon is from Old Moon..

Old Moon would never say anything to Sun. He wouldn't utter a single word to Sun about his possible plans..

New Moon is different. Even if hides from Sun the fact that he holds Ruin captive, he very much shared his thoughts about his plans with Sun. Even if Sun doesn't know that Moon actually plans to do it, he knows what is plaguing Moon's mind..

It shows us that Moon trusts Sun. He deeply cares about Sun's opinions.

I'd be very angry if Monty won't tell Sun about Moon's weird dream and that Moon is acting in very concerning way..

Sun will be devastated if Moon will sacrifice Ruin to bring Solar back. But not because Moon hid the truth from him but because Moon is hurting so much and decided to do something bad instead of reaching out for help..

I think that Sun will be devastated more by Moon being reckless - which will definitely remind him of Old Moon (and I'm not saying this to say that New Moon is no different from Old Moon but I'm saying this because for me it always looked like that Sun was always worried about Old Moon - who was acting very recklessly most of the time - and seeing New Moon being reckless would bring Sun these painful memories that Moon was acting reckless and Sun wasn't able to stop him, to help him..)

And knowing that Dazzle is July 16th victim we may get a glimpse on Sun's trauma from that day..

Which reminds me what both hallucination of BM and new BM told Sun - about taking over him and causing chaos once again..

Which reminds me of my theory that Sun may have depressive psychosis and delusions centered around guilt and unworthiness..

Sun being scared that he may create another AI to cause havoc for him and feeling guilty and responsible for Old Moon's state wouldn't surprise me..

And if Moon will do something bad.. I think that Sun may feel as he failed New Moon just like he failed Old Moon..

Maybe what I'm saying is a huge stretch but for me it makes a lot of sense..

Sun once tried to sacrifice himself for his family, for Moon when he decided to be conduit for star's power. He survived then. In Moon's dream he died sacrificing himself to protect Lunar.

With Moon heading in the wrong direction I feel that we may have a third and final "Sun sacrificing himself to protect his family" moment..

With history repeating itself so much - and knowing that Sun is the most affected by that because he's the one who remembers everything - and with Dazzle being confirmed July 16th victim, show may finally touch on Sun's trauma and mental issues some more..

I don't know what show have in store for us but I'm hopeful.

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