#mcu theory

[gloriousburden]

Debunking the “thanos brainwashed loki” theory (kind of)

DISCLAIMER: i don’t really have any problems with people taking this theory more lighthearted/just as an headcanon/au sort of thing, my issue is when it is accepted as fully canon, and words, meanings, and statements in interviews are completely twisted. people too often use it to mischaracterize loki, and disregard any of his motives, acts, and issues.

when i first got into the mcu and started interacting with the fandom, i too believed this theory when i first heard about it. until i thought about it a little more, and learned more about loki.

i’m aware that this is a little controversial to say since a lot of people truly take the theory as canon and have basically forever now… but in all honesty i REALLY don’t think it’s true. but let me just state that yes, loki definitely was persuaded/coerced into doing the things he did in avengers by thanos and his goons in order to retrieve the tesseract, that’s very canon as we can see in the scene of loki interacting with the other. loki fears thanos for a reason. thanos is a piece of shit and is shown to be a piece of shit to others including nebula and gamora, who were supposed to be his “daughters”. if he would torture his own “children”, why wouldn’t he torture and subject a stranger that he wanted to use to get the tesseract? so loki definitely was tortured.

i know there’s these two interviews, one with tom hiddleston (here) and the other with joss whedon that confirm loki went through a lot of horrible things between the ending of thor 1 and the beginning of avengers. they don’t necessarily give any specifics, just that it was really bad for him. please forgive me as i cannot find the joss whedon one right now, but i believe it was a video. the article with tom hiddleston which i’ve linked, is him saying “I think somewhere between the end of Thor and the beginning of The Avengers, Loki has been to the Marvel equivalent of the 7th circle of hell. At the end of Thor you see him let go. He lets go of the spear, he lets go of Asgard, and he lets go of the need of his brother and father’s affection and approval. He has bigger plans now.” and joss whedon pretty much said the same (in regards to loki going through horrible things between thor and avengers) from what i remember.

(but even with that being said, i’m going to focus more on canon rather than interviews.)

i’m not here to disprove that loki was tortured, i fully believe that he was and it makes sense considering thanos’ character, but i’m here to prove that he wasn’t FULLY brainwashed into doing what he did.

also trust me, i know that most of the movies loki has been in disregard a lot of the shit he’s been through, but i do feel that if he was truly forced into it, it would’ve been elaborated on. which i will elaborate on in this post.

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if anyone was brainwashed into committing the acts loki committed in avengers, they would be very distraught and traumatized when they eventually gained full consciousness and realized that they did those things. examples of this in the mcu being clint (who is literally in the same movie), as well as bucky who really was brainwashed by hydra into being an assassin, and is shown as being deeply traumatized when the brainwashing is undone. even if he didn’t commit those acts intentionally, and in his own will.

we can see in the dark world that loki was not really shown to be regretful about what he did. and honestly, i don’t think that was just them choosing not to show loki as being vulnerable, or them disregarding loki’s issues (per usual) because we actually get to see some of his true feelings, as well as him having a breakdown in the movie. he is willingly vulnerable. “now you see me, brother.”

he is shown to be deeply troubled, and vengeful about the possibility of him unintentionally leading algrim/kurse to frigga, the fact he was locked up and unable to be of any sort of help, as well as obviously frigga’s death in general. it was something that was truly done unintentionally by loki.

if loki had really unintentionally, and unconsciously committed the acts he did, he would be shown to be very distraught about it in the dark world, and it would’ve been elaborated on.

the approach the writers, as well as tom hiddleston wanted to take for loki’s character in the dark world was one that showed us as the audience, and as fans of loki more about him, as well as to see him at his most vulnerable, so why would they leave out his supposed trauma from brainwashing? because that’s not really how it happened.

they would have shown him be vulnerable about being brainwashed, and doing something unintentionally if it were something that really happened. since loki’s writing in the dark world was meant to “humanize” him. we’ve seen him at his most villainous in the last movie, so now let’s see him at his lowest in the one after that.

a major point of mine that disproves the theory is that although loki is shown to fear thanos, he’s not necessarily doing this whole thing JUST for him. he is also focused on ruling over earth, rather than just retrieving the tesseract.

if he was brainwashed, however, he would’ve got the tesseract to thanos without anything in return. thanos wouldn’t have had to bargain with loki, or offer earth/an army to him. he would have just mind controlled him with the scepter, the same way loki did with clint, and called it a day.

another point that disproves the theory is that if loki truly was mind controlled by the scepter, he would act almost robotic, and would be quite still, only doing things when told/motioned to the same way clint was when the scepter was first used on him in the beginning of the movie. (i’ve linked this scene further down in this post when i talk about the misconceptions of loki’s eyes being the same blue as the character’s who were mind controlled.) loki clearly says, and does whatever he wants in the movie. this would not really be the case if he were being mind controlled.

(also another example of loki realizing he had partially caused something unintentionally was thor’s banishment. he is shown to be quite nervous about the fact that thor got banished, although it did end up working in his favor later on in the movie.)

loki has shown many times, even before avengers when he is undeniably a villain, that he has no issues with hurting people to get what he wants. people who use the theory and accept it as canon often (i kind of hate this word, so forgive me for the lack of better words) infantilize and mischaracterize loki as being this character who is completely innocent, and helpless. and that he only became “bad” in avengers. meanwhile loki has always (always meaning since after/during the events of thor 1) been shown as a manipulative character with dark thoughts and violent tendencies. in thor 1, he committed genocide against the frost giants BEFORE he was under the influence of thanos or the scepter.

(let me state that i’m not saying loki is a bad person or a psychopath who just goes off hurting people left and right merely for the fun of it. i’ve elaborated on this, as well as loki’s motives in this post. but basically i’m saying that loki does everything he does with reason, and purpose. he is conniving, and calculated with his decisions. he doesn’t get satisfaction in hurting people, he gets satisfaction in getting closer to his goals.)

loki is already a “tragic victim” type character. you don’t need to erase that he’s capable of and willing to do wrong, and imply that those things were very out of character for him to prove that. characters can simultaneously do bad things out of their own will, while having a shitty past. not all victimized characters are completely innocent, and without flaws.

loki is never shown to have any love for midgard, or midgardians in general. he genuinely wanted to rule over them. in thor 1, loki says “i never wanted the throne, i only ever wanted to be your equal.” in thor 1. but in avengers, he says “i’ve grown, odinson, in my exile.” showing that he, and his motives have changed since then. he’s not the same person he was in thor 1, begging for his father’s love and recognition. not wanting a throne isn’t the case for him anymore. if he wasn’t able to prove himself to his own father, then midgardians were the next option.

in the dark world, loki no longer cares for odin’s approval. “he’s not my father!” “i didn’t do it for him.” as well as banishing/exiling him, and taking his throne. his focus shifting from odin’s approval as his own son in thor 1, to the approval of midgard as their king in avengers, to the approval of asgard as their king in the dark world, shows how loki’s character and his motives developed and changed with each movie. he realized that odin will never approve of him as his own son, let alone as king of asgard. thor 1 was just the start.

the reason this is relevant to disproving the theory, as well as the points i’m trying to make are:

1. the motives were already there. the will to do bad things, was already there before thanos and even the scepter’s influence/interference.

2. loki has changed between thor 1 and avengers, and he didn’t need to be brainwashed for this change to happen. he didn’t change and become “evil” because of what thanos put him through.

3. some people who take the theory as canon, believe that loki is fully good and would have never willingly hurt others to get what he wants, or to prove a point. which could not be further from the truth.

i know most of this won’t really make sense to people who already know these things, but my words (and this post in general) are more directed to/are about those who use this theory to try and make loki seem like he’s a character who only started doing bad things, due to being brainwashed. that he’s a character who would never do anything wrong against his own will. meanwhile, he’s exhibited “bad” behaviors willingly since the first movie he was in.

he’s a character with manipulative tendencies, and deep rooted resentment and jealousy towards those put above him. he is insecure, and is willing to do anything to prove himself worthy.

also a lot of the things and points that the people who believe this theory as canon use as proof are things that have been debunked. a point that they often use is that marvel has confirmed that loki was influenced by the scepter. but the only thing they confirm is that it heightened his anger and negative feelings. a big issue is that people hear “influenced” and misunderstand, taking it as a confirmation that loki was mind controlled, and not that the scepter was just amplifying his negative emotions that were already there, and have been since thor 1.

(link to the whole page.)

nowhere does it say that he was brainwashed, or mind controlled. influenced? yes, that’s what the scepter does.

another thing is people talking about his eyes supposedly being the same blue as clint’s, and erik selvig’s when they were under the influence of the scepter. when in reality… their proof of this is just lighting, edited photos, or them mistaking loki’s eyes as being green when they’re actually blue. tom hiddleston has blue eyes, and loki in avengers has the same blue eyes that he did in thor 1, before he even met thanos. his eyes aren’t green, and have never been. (also if loki was MIND CONTROLLED by the scepter, his eyes would be EXTREMELY blue, considering his natural eye color is blue.)

examples:

he has the same beautiful big blue eyes eye color. not the insanely bright blue that clint, or erik selvig had when they were mind controlled by the scepter.

more examples:

guys, if loki was being controlled by the scepter… his eyes would be the same color as theirs since the cgi was purposely used to make their eyes very unrealistically blue so that everyone would know they were being controlled. these two characters both have blue eyes. these pictures show them before being mind controlled/brainwashed, versus afterwards. also… his eyes would be that same blue throughout the movie. which they’re not… clint’s eyes remained that bright blue until the mind controlling was undone by natasha.

it won’t let me add any more pictures so forgive me, but trust me… it’s not the same blue. loki’s eyes do look a little brighter here so maybe i understand the misconception a little bit, but that’s due many factors that can be explained. one being the makeup put on tom hiddleston in this scene to make his skin lighter as well to make him appear exhausted. another factor being the lighting!! as someone with blue eyes, i know that basically anything can make them appear a different shade. but that even goes for other eye colors. that’s just how it works. another thing to mention is that tom hiddleston is naturally blonde and has warmer skin than this. the contrast of the darker hair and the makeup (ESPECIALLY the makeup used to make his under-eye area look dark, which is only used like that in this scene btw) will make his eyes look really bright especially when he already has bright blue eyes. here’s the scene.

another example of his eye color being this post of mine right here. he literally has the same eyes

we can see that the avengers, specifically the hulk, were influenced by the scepter as well. but their eyes weren’t bright blue, because they weren’t being brainwashed by it and instead their negative emotions that were already there were being heightened. this caused cap and tony to argue even more, bruce banner to become angry and emotional about being the hulk, everyone else to become more hostile, etc… these were pre existing issues. loki’s resentment towards thor as well as his need for approval were pre existing.

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anyway i will probably update this in the future if there’s anything i left out/to correct mistakes.

moral of the story is, loki was canonically tortured, subjected, and manipulated by thanos. but even with that being said, he was not necessarily brainwashed and he was definitely not brainwashed by the scepter. there is no canon proof of that. the scepter only heightened his negative emotions that were already there.

if loki really was brainwashed, don’t you think he would’ve just retrieved the tesseract for thanos without wanting to rule over earth? it would’ve been that simple. but since that isn’t true and loki was consciously and intentionally doing these things, he wanted something in return. neither clint, nor erik selvig wanted anything in return. they did whatever loki needed them to, unconsciously.

people tend to take the proof of his torture, and mistake it as proof of him being brainwashed for some reason. loki is not an innocent character who only started exhibiting “bad” behaviors in avengers. just because he’s done bad things doesn’t mean that you cannot love him, sympathize with him, or see him as the true victim in the story. he is the god of mischief. he is manipulative, and has deep rooted issues that causes him to do bad things in order to prove himself. you don’t need to dumb down his character, and motives in order to like him.

sorry if none of this makes any sense. i’m really bad at explaining my own thoughts and putting them into words, and i’m sure this could’ve been worded better. i just made this to clear things up as well as give my own take on the theory. don’t take it too seriously but also feel more than welcome to correct me on anything, as well as add your own take or anything else onto this.

thank you for reading!!

#loki #loki mcu #loki meta #mcu meta #the avengers #avengers 2012 #thor mcu #thor #thor 2011 #thor the dark world #the dark world #thanos #mcu theory #loki theory #loki was brainwashed theory #thanos brainwashed loki #loki laufeyson #loki odinson #loki 💭 #in defense of loki #loki deserves better

[shegeekery]

Doctor Strange head-canon

My head-canon/theory regarding Doctor Strange's search through 14,000,605 futures is that there were many futures in which the Avengers were able to defeat Thanos, and they were able to stop the Snap before it happened in all but the one he chose. Unfortunately, all of the other futures resulted in the End of Everything, so he naturally went with the one that didn't. He wouldn't have been able to see why this was the case because he couldn't see beyond his own timeline.

Why was the solution he went with the only one that allowed the timeline to continue? Two reasons:

Under the pre-Loki TVA, any other choice would have resulted in the timeline being pruned. In Loki episode 1.1, Renslayer mentioned that the Avengers time-traveling back to get the stones was what was "supposed to happen" under the Sacred Timeline.

(Possibly) After Loki recreated the multiverse, that future was the only one that resulted in 2012 Loki escaping and winding up in the TVA, so it had to happen in one timeline. Admittedly, since the concept of "before and after" is murky when we're talking about the TVA and the multiverse, this may not be strictly true — the fact that it happened under the old TVA regime might have been enough.

It would be totally in character for Strange to keep this additional information to himself in order to avoid an argument and to avoid alarming and distracting the other Avengers from the immediate crisis.

If I'm right about this, then if and when God Loki shows up again and interacts with the Avengers, Strange could well be the first one to trust him, after quickly putting two-and-two together.

...I also envision a fun little bit where an angry Thor, convinced that it's a cruel trick, throws his hammer at Loki, only for Loki to catch it and lightly toss it back to him. "You're going to need this, Brother."

#doctor strange #mcu #infinity war #loki #mcu theory

[micpanda]

okay but hear me out,,, the reason Rocket’s brain developed was because he was exposed to music and Rocket had figured that out so the final scene was him intentionally kickstarting everyone!!!

#spoilers #gotg spoilers #gotg3 #gotg vol 3 #guardians of the galaxy #gotg v3 #mcu gotg #gotg3 spoilers #mcu theory #theory #rocket raccoon #music #marvel #rocket #rocket gotg #guardians of the galaxy volume 3 #fan theory #gotg theory #x #marvel mcu

[oswildin]

Okay so it’s more than likely S2 of Loki is going to lead into another marvel project (whether the rumours are true and it’s DEADPOOL 3 or just another set up for Avengers), but I genuinely think if they don’t include Loki in the big fight against Kang in Secret Wars & Kang Dynasty then Marvel have missed a trick.

S1 of Loki kicked off the whole Kang era of the MCU, and it’s a similar notion with the original Avengers. He was the reason they were brought together.

The New Avengers feel so up in the air, there are so many characters that have been introduced but we have yet to actually know who is most likely to be in the gang. (Ant-Man, Dr Strange, Cap, Winter Solider, Black Widow, Cap Marvel are my only real solid guesses atm, but it seems this phase of marvel is more about magic and mystical arts). Loki is one of the only people who knows exactly what is happening and why.

To me… it makes sense for him to be the one who assembles the New Avengers…

I’ve seen a rumour (completely baseless but suspend your disbelief) that the TVA will be plucking different Avengers from timelines to fight Kang, and I really think it could work, because if they don’t involve the TVA in some way then it kinda feels pointless to even have introduced them in the first place beside for a plot point for Loki and to explain ‘variants’.

Loki is one of the only characters left we have been with since practically the beginning of the MCU. He’s a familiar face, a character we all know as an audience… It seems like the best choice for him to be the one to ‘lead’ the New Avengers in this venture, especially with all the new faces and audiences feeling a little unsure about the MCU in general. Also I feel it would be such a good way to end his character arc with an actual redemption that isn’t just a death of ‘he sacrificed himself’. It also seems S2 of Loki will explore his powers more, and the comment of ‘perhaps we’re stronger than we think’ from S1… I think he could be key to taking down Kang.

Also, yes I want Sylvie there too.

Thank you to coming to my TED Talk.

PS - I know this will most likely not happen and I stand by the fact that Marvel would’ve missed a trick with this.

#marvel #loki #loki laufeyson #loki series #the avengers #avengers secret wars #avengers kang dynasty #mcu loki #mcu theory #mcu

[directlyat-thesun-moved]

on zoe and her line that went something like ”Kamala should wait to tell the world until she’s ready.”

possibly major spoilers for s2 ahead (and spoilers for the comics. and episode 6.)

In the comics, Zoe’s story went somewhat similarly to the show: she was a popular white girl who started out as kind of a bitch then ended up being one of Kamala’s biggest allies. However, Zoe’s character was also a lot more complex.

To understand what I’m about to say, you have to know what was happening in the comics at this time. Basically Kamala was fighting this AI sentient virus thing called doc.x, and it could see all of her information. It then used that to access her friend’s information, including Zoe’s.

When it saw Zoe’s things, it found love letters, written to none other than Zoe’s close friend Nakia. It told Kamala about this (she was incredibly supportive by the way, she’s a really good friend as is shown in the show) and told her that if she didn’t do something (i forget what) it would email Zoe’s letters to the entire school.

“Oh but Falcon, if Kamala was such a good friend, why didn’t she do the thing that the Doc.x virus wanted her to?” She couldn’t. If I remember right, Doc.x wanted her to give up, and she wasn’t going to do that.

So instead, she went to talk to Zoe, who completely understood, but obviously was also mortified that Kamala knew and terrified that soon, so would all of Coles Academic High School, including, of course, Nakia.

Being the good friend that she was, Zoe confessed everything to Nakia, who was very understanding but didn’t reciprocate Zoe’s feelings. However, the letters were still sent out and Zoe was outed as a lesbian against her will to the entire school.

When 19999 Zoe says that Kamala should be allowed to keep her identity private, and to Nakia nonetheless, that’s foreshadowing for what I’m sure will happen soon.

#zoe zimmer #ms marvel #kamala khan #nakia bahadir #marvel #mcu #marvel comics #mcu meta #marvel meta #ms marvel tv show #ms marvel spoilers #ms marvel tv #ms marvel meta #marvel mcu #marvel cinematic universe #marvel theories #mcu theory #hunter hollers

[buckys-metal-arm]

Ive seen people talk about the Serum and how it affects body temperature for Bucky and Steve, and my headcanon is that while Steve has a higher body temperature and is fine, I think because he was given a different variant of it Bucky kinda feels like he has a perpetual fever. Like it isn't dangerous to him or anything, but he has that thing you get when you're sick where you feel cold but your body is really hot to the touch. And part of me wonders how much of it is him being actually cold and how much of it is in his head because of how much time he spent in cryo. I have no idea how the science of that would work but that's my 2 cents

#bucky barnes #kes rewrites the MCU #mcu #mcu theory #mcu headcanons #for the record i dont think Bucky himself would recognize it as like a fever thats just the best way i can explain it

[increasinglygeeky]

Was it just me or did Scott's anxiety spiral at the end of Quantumania give off some serious Wandavision westview citizens vibes?

#marvel #marvel cinematic universe #mcu #ant man #the wasp #ant man and the wasp spoilers #ant man and the wasp quantumania #ant man and the wasp #quantumania #quantumania spoiler #scott lang #hope van dyne #mcu theory #kang the conqueror #wandavision #langdyne #cassie lang #stature #hank pym #janet van dyne #amatw spoilers #amatw #anxiety #movies #superhero

[velvet4510]

#mcu #marvel cinematic universe #mcu theory #mcu poll #tfatws #the falcon and the winter soldier #sharon carter #power broker #skrulls #disney plus series #mcu series #mcu shows

[ravensinthedaylight]

Liho

Maria got Liho (Natasha’s cat) after she came back from the blip. From then on Liho held distain for Maria, for Liho it’s because only when Maria left Natasha sobbed into her pillow every night for five years straight. And also she finds it fishy because it’s only when Maria came back Natasha ‘disappeared’

#liho the cat #mcu theory #blackhill #natasha and liho #natasha romanoff x maria hill #natasha romanoff #maria hill

[inwhichiramble]

Things that happened because of the Sokovia Accords being repealed:

Steve and Tony are watching from above and are obviously both very happy about it, but are they going to express that? Obviously not.

Considering the Avengers have been spread out all over the world and are now only acting in small groups or are forming their own teams, there’s no real way to keep a rein on them anyway

So the only people have, ah, strong feelings about it are Sam, Bucky, Rhodey, Sharon, Maria, Wanda, Okoye, Clint, Scott, and Zemo

Which is still a long list but you get my point

But like. This means that Wanda, Sam, Bucky, Clint, and Scott are no longer government fugitives

This means that superheroes like Daredevil and Spider-Man don’t have to reveal their identities unless they choose to.

This means that Wanda, Thor and the Asgardians, Bruce, Jen, Bucky, and Carol are safe from being experimented on by the government

And most importantly, that means that organizations like S.H.I.E.L.D, the Avengers, the Thunderbolts, or literally any superhero/enhanced group of people can once again operate across sovereign borders if they so choose. Which also means that saving the world and dealing with the consequences is entirely up to them.

Also I can guarantee that Bucky and Sam and Scott and Clint all had a party to celebrate this news

#marvel #mcu #sokovia accords #she hulk spoilers #cacw #avengers #shield #superheroes #marvel cinematic universe #headcanons #theories #mcu theory #I’d love to hear y’all’s thoughts on this #she hulk

[giveamadeuschohisownmovie]

I’m just gonna make an early guess and say that Emilia Clarke’s character in “Secret Invasion” is going to be a Skrull infiltrator/main villain of the miniseries. Which, if I remember correctly, means she’ll be playing Veranke, the Skrull Queen. It’d be in line with the MCU’s tendency to cast popular actors who aren’t known for playing villains as a villain.

(I know I know, but Daenerys was only the villain in the final season, okay).

#emilia clarke #MCU #marvel #secret invasion #veranke #skrull #nick fury #maria hill #everett ross #talos #james rhodes #mcu theory #marvel theory #mcu speculation

[doctorstrangeaskblog]

please take that screencap you love of stephen (the one thats a bit blue that you added the glasses and edit agamotto possession hotness please) 😌😳

Done.

#doctor strange #doctor strange 2 #stephen strange #agamotto #marvel #marvel theory #mcu #cumbercollective #benedict cumberbatch #mcu theory #ds2

[firefly-fez]

There’s No Way That Loki Didn’t Fake His Death in Infinity War and I Will Die On This Hill: A Theory on His Motivations and Methods for Faking His Death, by Me

Infinity War Loki did not die, it was an illusion designed to fool Thanos into thinking he was dead. Given that Loki did not take any action to stop Thanos, his character motivation for doing so doesn’t really make sense….until we consider that he faked his death not to stop Thanos, but to stop Kang the Conqueror. TVA Loki is in a desperate position after the timeline has broken and doesn’t exactly have a lot of friends to ask for help — except Mobius, and other Loki Variants. He could return to his original timeline - the ‘one true’ timeline and seek the help of the Loki we know and love, but he would have to be careful to do this without creating a divergence in the timestream. Divergences do not register if they occur at the time of an apocalyptic event, and since Ragnarok was an apocalyptic event, if TVA Loki contacted Infinity War Loki while he is dealing with Sutur’s helmet/stealing the tesseract, he would be able to change his fate without creating a Variant. Infinity War Loki, then, would return to this moment in his time stream after allying himself with TVA Loki, and would have full knowledge of the TVA and the threat that Kang poses when he faces Thanos. At this point, Infinity War Loki would be aware that Thanos is eventually defeated by the Avengers after the Blip, and that all other possible solutions to Thanos’ defeat are impossible as long as the timeline is comtrolled by the TVA. He also knows that other Loki Variants who survived the encounter with Thanos did not trigger detection by the TVA until they took action — the Loki Variant he meets at the end of the universe says the TVA did not detect him while he remained in hiding, only when he sought out Thor. TVA Loki would also be aware that Sylvie killing Kang and the effect it has on the timeline provides and end-point, after which avoiding detection by the TVA is no longer necessary. Therefore, if Infinity War Loki does ally himself with TVA Loki, he would confront Thanos with the following knowledge: 1) Witholding the Tesseract is futile 2) It is possible to fake his death via illusion magic 3) He must remain in hiding until the timeline is destroyed if he is to help stop the threat posed by Kang the conqueror.

Therefore, Infinity War Loki has the motive, means, and opportunity to purposefully lose to Thanos to prepare for a greater oncoming threat. He can cast his illusion to fool Thanos but leave clues for Thor, like not turning back to his Jotenheim form and swearing his “undying” fidelity, and promising that “the sun will shine on us again”.

I know most of the fandom has written it off as fool’s hope, but I maintain Loki did not die in Infinity War and he faked his death, this time leaving clues to try and assuage Thor’s grief I hope and predict that Loki S2 will bring our original timeline MCU Loki into the story and reveal how he survived Thanos.

Also: and admittedly this is a bit of a stretch, if Loki is spending time hiding out in the wreckage of Thanos’s attack on Asgard, he may be able to heal/revive Heimdall before his wounds prove fatal and, as long as Heimdall does not return until after the timeline is destroyed, he will not generate a Variant either. That’s a little less likely.

#marvel #mcu #loki #mcu phase four #mcu theory #loki series #loki theory

[oswildin]

I don’t know if this has been said already

But what if Sylvie’s nexus event was that her parents told her she was adopted instead of her finding out herself?

Obviously we have no comparison because the other Loki variants didn’t discuss that part of their lives but…

Loki’s pain stems from finding out he isn’t Thor’s brother by blood. Sure, he had jealousy and envy for Thor and Odin ‘favouring’ Thor (as Loki said)… But what if he hadn’t found out his true heritage?

Sure, he’d still want to be king, that’s just Loki, but him finding out he was adopted really just was the spark to ignite all his bitter rage and resentment.

Also I found it strange they brought it up so casually, it’s always the things said in passing or passed off as a little ‘haha’ moment that tend to have more meaning.

Or I’m just completely delusional lol

#loki series #loki season 2 #loki #mcu loki #sylvie laufeydottir #sylvie #loki laufeyson #mcu theory

[prettywitchiusaka]

I know a lot of people have their own ideas about why the Cloak picked Stephen, but I like to think of it as more of an “Occam’s Razor” approach.

So my idea? I like to think that the Cloak took one look at Stephen, analyzed his character and thought to itself “Hmmm. I like the cut of your jib. You seem like someone who’s very noble, but also very reckless. You need my protection stat!”

#marvel cinematic universe #mcu headcannon #mcu theory #Doctor Strange #the cloak of levitation

[the-collector-blog]

some broad mcu theory rambling:

quantum kang caused the creation of the bangles and ten rings. the space stone draws energy "from the cosmos" but it's actually through the quantum realm (or smth). the noor dimension is maybe just an area in the quantum realm, and maybe even the clandestines had slowed aging because they came from a place where time does not pass "normally".

vibranium may contain(?) cosmic energy, and that is why it is a powerful energy source, and why tony's arc reactor was nearly renewable energy (made from the vibranium element howard figured out the structure of). the space stone draws from cosmic energy, which is why the tesseract was seen as a renewable, infinite energy source.

the ten rings were unrecognizable to carol. maybe because kang made them with tech from the 31st century or beyond 🤔 the rings in his tech in the quantumania trailer do look strikingly like the ten rings. maybe quantum energy is why they grant eternal life to their bearer 👀 and... he may have found them in a tomb? like...the one in ms. marvel, where one bangle was found on a kree arm, and which had a huge ten rings symbol on the ground? hm. ten rings granting eternal life, perhaps through their energy, which is perhaps quantum. them being adjacent with the bangle, and thus the noor dimension, and people from it having slowed aging (or none at all). (oh yeah. and carol aging slowly after being blasted w cosmic energy.)

the bangle creating a rift between dimensions/timelines when struck, sending kamala back in time, perhaps by the design of he who remains (according to iman). some striking visual similarities between the [quantumania trailer + deleted ant man and the wasp scene with janet in the quantum realm] and the noor dimension as showed in ms. marvel.

then there's the whole thing with light. monica rambeau being able to transform the photon particles of her body into wave forms (if i understand that right). carol having light powers (shooting "photon blasts") she got from the cosmic energy of the space stone. kamala being from a "light" dimension of sorts and having powers relating to some kind of light (hard light, noor), being able to shape it with the bangle. them all being in the marvels, which will probably deal with different dimensions.

and lastly.. the ten rings sending out a signal/beacon once worn by their intended/true (?) bearer. kamala's bangle receiving some sort of broadcast signal in the post credits scene which kickstarts the marvels. probably related to quantum entanglement if she switches places with carol like that. cassie lang sending a signal to the quantum realm, which janet reacts to with great fear, knowing it will alert some danger and maybe specifically kang. the beacons.. could all be felt by kang, maybe, perhaps? idek. the beacon stuff felt potentially connected.

(hello hi don't come for me if i don't remember every bit of marvel lore correctly, i tried my best. feel free to respectfully add on though, of course)

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