#kang the conqueror
What if Kang is one of the three Time Keepers? 🤔
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Just a little world domination
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Who is Ravonna Renslayer in the comics?
It seems like Judge Renslayer could play an important role in the Loki series so I looked into her comics history.
Please note that I never read any comics with her and that I got all my information from fandom.com and marvel.com!
Ravonna Renslayer is the daughter of King Carelius, a ruler in the 40th century Earth. The kingdom was the last of the time period that hadn’t been conquered by Kang the Conquerer. Kang tried to advance Ravonna but she refused him which caused him to try and prove his love to her. To do that, he brought the Avengers forward in time to defeat them in battle. Ravonna joined the Avengers’ side in the fight.
After conquering the kingdom, Kang tries to take Ravonna as his bride and gets attacked by his own commander because of breaking his own rules of killing the monarchs of whatever he conquered to stop future rebellions. In the end, Ravonna and the Avengers allied themselves with Kang against Kang’s rebellious army. When a last shot was taken at Kang by the commander, Ravonna threw herself into the blast and died saving Kang’s life.
Later on Kang diverges into two different counterparts.
“Prime” Kang takes Ravonna from the timeline before she was killed and creates a divergent reality were Kang was killed instead of her. The version of her that he saved stays with him as his princess.
Another version of Kang preserved Ravonna’s body one breath away from death and got involved in a game with the Grandmaster. The Grandmaster revived Ravonna and showed her what Kang had done while she was ‘dead’ (and how Kang had failed to save her).
She swore revenge on him and after various schemes faces him in battle as Terminatrix. She rules over Kang’s kingdom after he sacrifices his life for her until she gets tired of it and revives him.
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Who Are The Time Keepers In The Loki Series And What Are Their Duties?
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Lovecraft Country star Jonathan Majors has dropped a disappointing update for fans expecting him to appear in Loki as his Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania character Kang the Conqueror.
"I have no idea what you’re talking about," Majors told Variety about the prospect of Kang appearing on Loki. Fan speculation over such an appearance was spurred by how this particular Disney+ program features Gugu Mbatha-Raw as Ravonna Renslayer, a character who serves as a love interest for Kang in the comics.
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Jonathan Majors broke out as a performer with his acclaimed supporting role in the 2019 independent drama The Last Black Man in San Francisco. Since then, Majors appeared in the Spike Lee feature Da 5 Bloods while also starring in the HBO program Lovecraft Country. In addition to Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, Major's other upcoming film roles include The Harder They Fall, Devotion and the third Creed movie.
Details remain scarce over the Marvel Cinematic Universe version of Kang the Conquerer, including whether or not there will be any teases of the character prior to Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania. However, the presence of such cosmic character in a series that has involved more Earth-bound villains up to this point does align with director Peyton Reed's vision for this Ant-Man installment. "I think the third Ant-Man movie is going to be a much bigger, more sprawling movie than the first two," Reed previously said about Quantumania. "It's going to have a very different visual template."
Loki stars Tom Hiddleston, Owen Wilson, Sophia Di Martino, Gugu Mbatha-Raw, Wunmi Mosaku and Richard E. Grant. New episodes air Wednesdays on Disney+.
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Concept for the Loki TV show:
It’s episode 5. Loki and Sylvie the Enchantress have realized that in order to figure out why the TVA are so devoted to the Sacred Timeline, they need to know what happens further down the timestream. They manage to recruit Mobius, who has become disillusioned with the Time-Keepers, and the trio sneak into a hidden part of the TVA where they can examine the Sacred Timeline.
And what they discover is absolutely horrifying.
In the far future, the entire universe has been conquered by Kang the Conqueror. Loki, hoping that Kang is eventually defeated, is dismayed when he sees that Kang manages to rule for thousands of years (this is where we see him as Immortus). Kang is never defeated and rules indefinitely without much opposition.
This is the moment Mobius realizes that Hunter C-20 went insane because she learned the truth; the TVA wasn’t protecting the timestream, they were ensuring Kang’s rise to power. And to make things even more horrifying, the trio learn that the Time-Keepers have been dead this whole time. The TVA is actually being run by Kang the Conqueror, who is using the Time-Keepers as propaganda in order to make sure no one learns the truth.
After learning the truth behind the TVA and the Sacred Timeline, the trio are cornered by Ravonna Renslayer and her team. Mobius tries to sway her to his side but Ravonna simply raises her hand and says, “You shouldn’t have done that.” Mobius then yells at her that the TVA is being run by Kang the Conqueror...which leads to Kang arriving to confront Team Loki. Ravonna then says, “I know. Of course I know.”
Kang smiles at Loki, Sylvie, and Mobius, then pulls Ravonna in close to his side to indicate that the two of them are lovers. Episode ends on that massive cliffhanger.
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Loki spoilers for episode 2?
One of my favorite things out of EP2 is Ravonna acting like she doesn’t know what’s up with the time keepers. Girl you fucking one of them ❤️
[for those who don’t know, Ravonna is wife to Kang, who is a time traveler / time keeper in the comics]
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LADY LOKI in LOKI
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I don't think the time keepers are real. I think it might just be Kang the Conqueror (who dated judge lady in the comics) that made sure this "sacred time-line" didn't diverge from the one where he will end up conquering the entire universe and judge lady is his accomplice. That whoe TVA training really sounds like propaganda and it's suspicious that employees don't have a life outside of work, maybe to make sure they are subservient? And I guess that would be why lady Loki wants to destroy the TVA, to save the multiverse.
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Even more Loki series speculation and possible spoilers for future episodes.
I'm gonna call it that the Timekeepers do not exist. They were made up by Kang the Conqueror to make the people who work in the TVA think that they are being ruled over by some kind of committee that works events out in a logical and moral manner. In truth, he has been manipulating his "employees" into pushing the Universe in the direction he wants it to go in for him to rule properly.
Additionally, all of the people who work in the TVA were not made by him, but are Variants who were brainwashed into thinking that they were created by the Timekeepers. Some of the employees believe they are clones because they see others like themselves or other co-workers walking around, but those are really just other Variants of them. Of all the people who work for the TVA, only the Judges know of their true nature and of the existence of Kang.
Loki and Mobius find this out when they come across a Variant of Mobius, himself, who is living his life in the Prime/Sacred timeline. Oddly, learning this brings Loki and Mobius closer to being actual friends because Mobius realizes what it is like, as Loki once said, "being told you are one thing, then learning it is all a fiction".
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That’s So Kang
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From Heroes Reborn: Squadron Savage #001, “The Queen’s Sacrifice”
Art by Luca Pizzari and Carlos Lopez
Written by Ethan Sacks
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LOKI | Glorious Purpose (1.01)
dir. Kate Herron
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I HAVE HAD A THOT
young avengers right?? we all know em, we all love em
the only ones that are yet to be introduced (and the ones everyone is talking about) is hulkling and iron lad
now hulkling is pretty easy - he could be introduced in she-hulk
BUT IRON LAD: HES THE ONE I WANNA TALK ABOUT
now of course theres the theory that he will be harley keener instead of nathaniel richards however this theory could still work with nathaniel (and i suppose harley too)
WHAT IF IRON LAD IS INTRODUCED IN ANT-MAN: QUANTUMANIA???
LIKE OF COURSE NATHANIEL IS CONNECTED TO KANG AND KANG THE CONQUERER IS THE CONFIRMED VILLAIN FOR ANT MAN
AND IT WOULD WORK SO WELL SINCE THERE IS NO CONFIRMED PLOT FOR ANT-MAN
AND LIKE SCOTT COULD STILL BE THE PRIMARY HERO ALONGSIDE HOPE BUT NATHANIEL COULD STILL BE INTRODUCED
SORRY THIS POST IS ALL OVER THE PLACE BUT I HAD THIS THOUGHT WHILE I WAS EATING LUNCH AND I HAD TO WRITE IT DOWN AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE
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“Kang the Conqueror is the hidden villain of Loki” is gonna be the new “Mephisto is the main villain of WandaVision”, I feel it. But unlike Mephisto, Kang has more a chance of happening since the character actually got cast.
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The TVA are either working for the Council of Kangs to ensure Kang’s own existence and empire develop the way it’s intended to, or the Timekeepers are trying to ensure that Kang never comes into existence, which might be what that redline symbolizes. If neither of these, then whoever is running the TVA just wants to ensure that the timeline that produces them remains intact to ensure their own existence.
TVA agents/minute men don't ask questions. They're bred to work in their bureaucracy, each given a specific function to ensure "The Sacred Timeline" is upheld. The logic they're fed is one timeline prevents chaos/another multiverse war, yet never question WHAT future they're actually building towards.
Either way, something shady’s going on in the upper ranks of the TVA.
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Predictions for “Loki” (as of episode 1):
1) Ravonna Renslayer is a villain and is secretly working for the time-traveling dictator Kang the Conqueror. The real reason why she wants only one timeline is that the Sacred Timeline leads to Kang the Conqueror ruling the universe.
2) The rogue variant Loki is Lady Loki. Lady Loki is fighting the TVA since, at some point, she became aware that the Sacred Timeline leads to Kang the Conqueror’s empire. She’s trying to destroy the TVA to make sure that Kang’s empire never comes to fruition.
3) Steve Rogers somehow landing back in the MCU past, despite the rules for time traveling being that you can’t actually alter the past, is explained as the TVA illegally “blending” the timelines together. Either Ravonna or Mobius broke the TVA’s policy by actually editing the Sacred Timeline in order to include Steve going back to the past and marrying Peggy Carter for some unknown reason.
One possible reason: Mobius found out that the Sacred Timeline leads to Kang the Conqueror ruling the MCU. So, he tries to alter the timeline in order to create a butterfly effect where, hopefully, Kang no longer rules the future. Basically, “Falcon and the Winter Soldier” is an indirect consequence of Mobius’ attempt to radically alter the future.
4) We won’t see this in the series but Wanda Maximoff is the one who destroys the TVA, thus creating the multiverse.
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