#barahir of gondor

[anghraine]

Most of us in Tolkien fandom (at least in these parts) have a profound affection for some passingly mentioned female character we know almost nothing about.

Today's for me: Rían of Gondor, daughter of the Steward Barahir, sister of the Steward Dior, and mother of the Steward Denethor I (not to be confused with Boromir and Faramir's father, Denethor II).

She's one of the few named Gondorian women, but we know even less about her than most. We don't know who her husband was. We don't know what she thought or felt or did with regard to anything. All we know is that, while not the Steward herself, she was the first woman the rule of Gondor had ever passed through.

The Stewards committed their rule like a kingship, father to eldest son, and it was the established position of Gondor that its rule couldn't pass through women (see Princess Fíriel!). Perhaps the Stewards or the Council of the time justified changing their policy through the absence of a technical king, but the Stewards received the powers of absent kings from day 1 and were described by Gandalf as more powerful than actual kings like Théoden. The Ruling Stewards passed the Stewardship in exactly the same way as the kings had passed the crown—until Rían and Denethor.

If their excuse was that they weren't really kings, it would be pretty transparently an excuse to let the rule of Gondor pass through a woman's lineage for the first time.

What part did Rían play in this? Did she have to fight to get the White Rod in Denethor's hands? Was she a voluntary participant in the whole thing at all? What was her relationship like with her brother Dior, who passed the Stewardship to her son? Her relationship with Denethor himself? What about the unnamed but presumably existent husband (a kind of fun reversal of the usual "implied but unnamed women," lol)?

I want to knowwww.

#i'm so curious about rían but she barely exists textually ;_; #anghraine babbles #long post #rían daughter of barahir #steward dior #legendarium blogging #steward denethor i #húrinionath #ondonórë blogging #mannnn if the stewards' excuse /was/ that they weren't kings so technically women's lineage could count for the stewardship #it would be kind of incredible tbh—especially when you consider that they're descendants of elendil who aren't in the succession #likely because they're descended through women #oh yeah we're totally not kings. humility is very important. we're so unkingly that lady rían's son can rule gondor :)

[velvet4510]

#ring of barahir #barahir #lotr #jrr tolkien #lotr books #lord of the rings #tolkien legendarium #the silmarillion #arwen #arwen undomiel #lotr arwen #eldarion #gondor #lothlorien #first age #fourth age #lotr theories #lotr poll

[emilybeemartin]

I have three more designs to go with Boromir's "The Captain's Kit" design! Behold:

The King's Kit

Aragorn's design features Anduril, the Evenstar jewel, the Elessar elfstone (just to pull the books in), the ring of Barahir, the crown of Gondor, and his ranger's gloves and pipe, surrounded by athelas flowers (props to @erynalasse for suggesting athelas!). I know his crown isn't really part of his "kit," but like I said in my previous post, he's basically just Dirty Wild Man with Boromir's Vambraces until he gets Anduril.

The Marshal's Kit

Eomer's design features his helmet, shoulder guard, breastplate, decorative buckle, and sword, surrounded by simbelmyne flowers. Side note: Eomer's armor is THE prettiest of anybody's by far, it's sooooo gorgeous.

The Prince's Kit

Legolas' design features his bone-handled knives, soft boots, bow and quiver, and a seagull feather, surrounded by forest leaves. I kept wanting to add symbolism that I've developed over the years in fic (I always associate Legolas with mountain laurel leaves and flowers, as a woodland evergreen re: "greenleaf," and I often give him antler-bone jewelry and a seal ring) but I made myself stick to book/movie imagery.

You can get these, and Boromir's design, on t-shirts, journals, pillows, transparent stickers, and as prints. If you'd like to see them on other merch, just let me know. Also let me know if there are issues with various items; I'm still not entirely sure how Redbubble handles it's clothing categories, so if you want it on a specific type of shirt and it's not showing up, I'll try to fix it.

Emily B. Martin on Redbubble>

#lord of the rings #aragorn #eomer #legolas #boromir #tolkien #redbubble merch

[remusjohnslupin]

TOLKIEN LADIES: Silmariën

From Silmariën’s lineage came the Kings of Gondor and Arnor living in exile in Middle-earth. She was one of the most significant of Númenor’s royal family, as she inherited both the sword Narsil and the Ring of Barahir from Tar-Elendil, her father. These heirlooms were then handed down to her descendants, the Lords of Andúnië and later the Kings of Gondor and Arnor. The royal jewel, Elendilmir, included a fillet of Mithril that had once belonged to Silmariën survived the Fall of Númenor to become part of the crown of Arnor, and eventually survived up until the time of King Elessar.

#lotredit #silmedit #tolkienedit #oneringedit #oneringnet #sourcetolkien #tolkiensource #fantasyedit #litedit #tolkienmine #tolkienladies #my people #silmarien #QUEUE.

[middleearth-polls]

#did I forget anyone? #yes I'm adding Lost Tales element if it fits #sue me #LOTR #The Lord of the Rings #The Silmarillion #Middle-earth #Tolkien #tumblr polls #middleearth polls #please don't attack me for the last two or three #I know Huan is the bestest of boys #I know Beregond had very justified reasons #they just fit the criteria for the options 👀 #edit: I'm sorry - I didn't think they would get any votes... 🥲 #category: tbd

[southfarthing]

the hands of the king are the hands of a healer... Aragorn bringing Eowyn back to life from beneath the shadow of the black breath, his hand bearing the ring of Barahir... the ring that Finrod gave to Barahir as an oath to aid him in return after Barahir saved Finrod's life... the ring that played a part in the story of Beren and Luthien, and Elrond and Elros, and Numenor and Gondor, and Arwen and Aragorn himself... the ring of Barahir, kinsman of Andreth... Andreth, to whom Finrod's parting words were, "Whither you go may you find light. Await us there, my brother – and me." ... and then Eowyn, in the houses of healing:

And suddenly her winter passed, and the sun shone on her. 

'I stand in Minas Anor, the Tower of the Sun,' she said; 'and behold! the Shadow has departed!'

pity and hope and healing... light and love......

#this makes NO sense but i just queued a reblog of a of gifset of aragorn tending to eowyn in minas tirith #and you can see the ring of barahir on his hand. naturally i had a moment #lotr #silmarillion #mp #lotrxsilm

[thelordofgifs]

Obscure Tolkien Blorbo: Round 1 Bracket!

here we gooo! Hopefully the image quality isn't too awful - I can read it alright if I zoom in, at any rate. For round 1 there will be 4 polls a day for 16 days, posted at 4pm UTC starting tomorrow, 18th May. Poll durations will all be one day. I'll post links to all the round 1 polls on this masterpost as they go live below the cut; each day there'll be 1 poll from each "corner" of the bracket.

Feel free to drop any propaganda in my ask box, either before or during the polls! I hope everyone has fun campaigning for their little-known blorbos :)

Frequently Asked Questions

POLLS

18/05:

Bofur vs Tauriel

Barliman Butterbur vs Ancalagon

Berúthiel vs. Mithrellas

The chief dancing bear of Númenor vs. Erutáro

19/05:

Dís vs Beorn

Gamling vs Bill the pony

Pearl Took vs Faniel

Ulbandi vs Miaulë

20/05:

Nerdanel vs Círdan

Nessa vs Caranthir’s wife

Urwen vs Elmo

Random orc of Morgoth vs Narthseg

21/05:

Elros vs Oropher

Erendis vs Tilion

Eärnur vs Mahtan's wife

Bëor's wife vs Múta

22/05:

Lobelia Sackville-Baggins vs Finarfin

Tevildo vs Amlach

Gelmir Guilinion vs Legolas of Gondolin

One (1) Rivendell elf who sings tra-la-la-lally vs Bingo Baggins

23/05:

Amrod vs Idril

Ilmarë vs Tar-Ancalimë

Andróg vs Fíriel of Gondor

Hiril (daughter of Barahir) vs Youngest of Finrod’s Ten

24/05:

Ecthelion vs Huan

Ingwë vs Salgant

Silmariën vs Tata

Viznak vs Ælfwine

25/05:

Olwë vs Edrahil

Eorl vs Meássë

Larnach’s daughter vs Jajax

26/05:

Lightning Disqualification (1)

Pengolodh vs Ioreth

Lothrandir vs Nob

Golfimbul vs Ainairos

27/05:

Lightning Disqualification (2)

Arien vs Egalmoth

Golodir vs Vidumavi

Ornendil vs Meril

28/05:

Haleth vs Beleg

Tom Bombadil vs Beregond

Inzilbêth vs A fox passing through the woods on business of his own

Makar vs Andvír

29/05:

Mablung vs Tuor

Nellas vs Curufin’s wife

Imin vs Tinfang Warble

Beleth vs Findegil

30/05:

Nimloth vs Anairë

Elurín vs Rog

Corunir vs Elulindo

Nuin vs Faramir (son of Ondoher)

31/05:

Rían vs Míriel

Argon vs Eluréd

Hareth vs Belen

Narmeleth vs Horn

01/06:

Daeron vs Andreth

Finduilas of Dol Amroth vs Findis

Eldacar of Gondor vs Gwindeth

Gelmir (messenger of Círdan) vs Bór

02/06:

Tar-Míriel vs Eöl

Thuringwethil vs Mahtan

Ilwen vs Eilinel

Enel vs Hirgon

03/06:

Belladonna Took vs Bain

Finduilas Faelivrin vs Halbarad

Azaghâl vs Lalwen

#obscure tolkien blorbo

[camille-lachenille]

Fourth Age headcanons (part 1/?):

Aragorn and Arwen's children: Eldarion, Tindómiel and Tinwërínel, Eldalótë

About the picture: Eldarion is wearing the ring of Barahir as well as the Elessar. Tindómiel favours dark colours, especially the royal colours of Gondor, and a few pieces of jewellery. Tiwërínel prefers a lighter and brighter palette for her clothes, and most of her wardrobe is inspired by Elvish fashion. Eldalótë wears bright colours and Elvish cut gowns, and she prefers pearl jewelery.

Eldarion always looks grave and thoughtful (he’s got his dad’s resting bitch face) but is actually very kind and optimistic. He makes for a good king in times of peace, close to his people and always ready to improve their life conditions. One of his chief missions is to expand the school system his mother established even to the most remote parts of the kingdom and founding affordable universities, the most famed being led by his sister. He is very fond of the sea, and spends as much of his time as he can in the coastal regions of his kingdom. He meets his wife, Medliniel, in Dol-Amroth, and they have a daughter, Míriel, who succeeds him on the throne.

Tindómiel and Tinwërínel are twins, born four years after Eldarion.

Tindómiel is stern and studious, preferring the company of old books to people. She is fiercely protective of her family and, much to the amusement of her parents inherited many of Elrond's mannerisms, notably his Disappointed GlareTM. Famed lore mistress, Tindómiel is the Lady of Isengard and dedicates her life to cataloguing and archiving all the things Saruman and his predecessors left in the tower of Orthanc, turning it in a high place of knowledge and studies in the Reunited Kingdom. She remains unwed but considers all the women of Gondor, Arnor, Rohan and beyond she taught as her daughters. She names one of her great-nieces as her heiress, declaring that the fiefdom of Isengard should always be ruled by a woman since men brought only ruin there. The Ladies of Isengard become known across all of Middle-Earth for their wisdom and knowledge.

Tinwërínel is as extroverted as her twin is introverted and she thrives in the political landscape of the Reunited Kingdom. Clever politician and ruthless diplomat, or vice versa depending of the situation, she is one of her father's most trusted advisors and he names her Stewardess of Arnor. Tinwërínel has to abdicate the function when she marries Elboron and becomes Princess of Ithilien, but she remains an active politician even as she raises three sons, and is part of her brother's council. She remains widowed at the age of 110 and returns to Annúminas where she is Chief Advisor of the Steward of Arnor until her death, several decades later.

Eldalótë, born seven years after the twins, is the splitting image of her mother, with her father’s love for wild places and his gift for healing. She is more than happy to be the youngest of the family, as it allows her to travel and explore without any care for politics. When in Gondor, Eldalótë spends most of her time studying the arts of healing, be it in Minas Tirith or beside Éowyn. It is during one of her stays in Ithilien that she meets Elfwine of Rohan, and they quickly start a secret courtship. They wed the year after she comes of age, making her queen of Rohan much to her dismay and her family’s amusement. Despite her initial reluctance, Eldalótë settles well enough in her role and dedicates much of her rule to building Houses of Healing in Edoras. She outlives her husband and, once their son is secure in his rule, Eldalótë leaves Rohan and divides her time between Minas Tirith, Orthanc and Annúminas. She is remembered in Rohan for her great kindess and constant cheerfulness.

About Eldarion's daughter under the cut:

King Eldarion of the House Telcontar, second king of the Reunited Kingdom, his wife Medliniel and their only daughter Míriel

About the picture: Eldarion didn't change his style much as he appears here in his regalia. Míriel is wearing her formal court attire, icluding the ring of Barahir and the Elessar. The cut of her sleeves is a nod to her Elven ancestry while imitating a cape at the same time, which gives her more freedom of movement than wearing an actual cape. Medliniel comes from lesser nobility and she is more comfortable wearing simpler clothes (compared to her husband and daughter) and favours blue, the colour od Dol Amroth, over red and black.

CW mentions of miscarriage

Eldarion meets Medliniel in Dol-Amroth and it is love at first sight for the both of them. They wed after the shortest courtship and engagement possible without seeming entirely inappropriate and are expecting a child within the year. Unfortunately, Medliniel looses the baby and it takes them a long time before trying again. Medliniel miscarries twice more before finally giving birth to a healthy little girl they name Míriel. Eldarion and Medliniel commonly agree not to try for more children because another pregnancy could be fatal to her. They cherish their daughter and make sure she gets the best possible education as a future queen.

Míriel spends most of her childhood with her parents doting on her, but she also makes long stays by her various aunts and cousins to perfection her education. She studies history and ancient lore in Orthanc under the strict instruction of Tindómiel, rides wildly across Rohan with Eldalótë and learns the subtlety of both ruling and motherhood by her aunt Tinwërinel’s side. Strong minded and free hearted, Míriel has three children without ever marrying, though she openly lives with her lover and make no secret he is the father of her children.

When she becomes the first Ruling Queen of the Reunited Kingdom, Míriel continues many of the social refoms started by her father and grandfather. Her greatest accomplishent is to see Osgiliath fully restored to its former glory and, by the end of her reign, she even moves the capital from Minas Tirith back to Osgiliath. Her reign is highly controversed by the nobility but she is well loved by her people, especially the women. In fact, Míriel leads a great reform of the laws revolving around family, marriage and inheritance, and made sure women had equal rights over their children with their husband. She also funded a network of shelters for abused women and children.

And I'll stop here before turning this massive post into a fully fleshed fanfiction.

Next post of this series will be about Tinwërínel and Eldalótë's lives and their children.

#Tindomiel is ace and lesbian she and doesn't like men very much as a rule #she took a look at the mess left in Orthanc by Saruman and whoever lived there before him and went “nah thanks I'll take over from now on” #also the doll maker is back baby! i went crazy with it and i’m not done. #tolkien #the lord of the rings #fourth age #aragorn #arwen #eldarion #headcanons #original characters #fourth age headcanons series

[thethirdtreeofvalinor]

This took me daysss but here’s a condensed version of all Middle Earth books as

We Didn’t Start the Fire

Kanafinwë, Elenwë

Dorthonion, Manwë

Mordor, Númenor, Gondolin Falls

Barahir, Idril, Mîm

Rescue at Thangorodrim

Last Alliance, Valaquenta, Rohan’s Mighty Halls

Dagor-nuin-Giliath

Celegorm, Morgoth’s Wrath

The Fellowship of the Ring

Gil-galad is High King

Fëanor, Maedhros

Darkening of Valinor

Helcaraxë

Alqualondë

Namarië

Goodbye

We didn’t start the fire

It was always burning since the world’s been turning

We didn’t start the fire

No we didn’t light it

But we tried to fight it

Maeglin captured, Durin’s Bane

Pippin is the Shire’s Thain

Arnor, Bilbo, Celebrimbor, Noldor, Túrin

Rivendell, Samwise

Underhill disguise

Mirkwood, Radagast, Smaug, Húrin

Red Book of Westmarch

Wizards sent as old men

There and Back Again

Thuringwethil, Théoden

Doriath, Nargothrond, Finrod Felagund

Mablung of the Heavy Hand

Down goes Beleriand

We didn’t start the fire

It was always burning since the world’s been turning

We didn’t start the fire

No we didn’t light it

But we tried to fight it

Boromir, Bregolas, Nerdanel, Legolas

Aulë, Anduin, Misty Mountains, Bruinen

Beleg, Ancalagon

Galadriel, Ecthelion

Eärendil is a star, Children of Illúvatar

Frodo Baggins, Elwë, Beregond Eonwë

Carcharoth, Faramir, Aredhel poisoned spear

Turgon, Goldberry, Pelennor, Teleri

Grey Havens’ Shipwright

Bombadil Barrow-wight

We didn’t start the fire

It was always burning since the world’s been turning

We didn’t start the fire

No we didn’t light it

But we tried to fight it

Lórien, Haleth

Indis, Minas Tirith

Elwing, Déagol, Silmarils, Sméagol

Nienor, Thorondor, Caranthir, Gildor

Treebeard, Fingon, Melian, Daeron

Arwen, Celeborn, Boromir, Gondor Horn

Trouble at Amon Hen

Glorfindel lives again

We didn’t start the fire

It was always burning since the world’s been turning

We didn’t start the fire

No we didn’t light it

But we tried to fight it

Kalimac, Lúthien

Annatar’s back again

Dúnedain, Elros

Helm’s Deep, Rauros

Shelob, Tulkas, Vinyamar

Doomsman of the Valar

Sharkey in the Shire, Narya: Ring of Fire

Isildur, Erebor

Wormtongue, Durin’s door

Haradrim, Draughlin

Nazgûl, Éowyn

Elves departing from the shore

Beorn, Third Age Post-War

A Elbereth Gilthoniel

A tiro nin, Fanuilos!

#everyone is obligated to tell me their favourite line #call this the real noldolante #peep merry’s real name #my proudest moment #yea i used boromir twice #tolkien #we didn't start the fire #billy joel #silmarillion memes #silmarillion shitpost #song parody #the silmarillion #incorrect silmarillion quotes #noldolante #lotr #lotr memes #the lord of the rings #lotr fandom #silmarillion #incorrect tolkien quotes #incorrect lord of the rings quotes

[tolkien-feels]

I know the Stewards of Gondor just sort of randomly recycle names but it's so weird. Dior son of Barahir. Turgon son of Turin. Denethor son of Ecthelion. It's like Silmarillion Drunk History

[acceptsonlynttnightwing]

Thingol didn’t want the Silmaril!

Beren: “My fate, O King, led me hither, through perils such as few even of the Elves would dare. [...] Neither rock, nor steel, nor the fires of Morgoth, nor all the powers of the Elf- kingdoms, shall keep from me the treasure that I desire [Luthien].

Thingol:  “I see the ring, son of Barahir , and I perceive that you are proud, and deem yourself mighty. But a father’s deeds, even had his service been rendered to me, avail not to win the daughter of Thingol and Melian. See now! I too desire a treasure that is withheld. For rock and steel and the fires of Morgoth keep the jewel that I would possess against all the powers of the Elf-kingdoms. Yet I hear you say that bonds such as these do not daunt you. Go your way therefore! Bring to me in your hand a Silmaril from Morgoth’s crown; and then, if she will, Lúthien may set her hand in yours. Then you shall have my jewel; and though the fate of Arda lie within the Silmarils, yet you shall hold me generous.’

After Beren left, Thingol answered ‘I sell not to Elves or Men those whom I love and cherish above all treasure. And if there were hope or fear that Beren should come ever back alive to Menegroth, he should not have looked again upon the light of heaven, though I had sworn it.’

He wasn’t greedy and obsessed with the gem - he just wanted Luthien to not leave him. I know, he imprisoned her, but it was to stop her (in his mind) throwing away her immortal life for a poor, short lived, vagabond. 

Also, let’s remember, Elrond, kind as summer Elrond set Arwin’s bride price crazy high too. Aragorn had to defeat Sauron, become king of Gondor (which, again, he wasn’t heir to) AND raise Arnor, a kingdom that hadn’t existed for a thousand years, from scratch. 

Tuor’s father and uncle and all their people died to save Turgon AND there was a prophecy that Turgon’s and Huor’s line, when mixed, would produce a star to save ME. 

THINGOL DIDN’T ACTUALLY REQUIRE THE SILMARIL!

(Plus, he had a sense of humour)

But Beren said: ‘It is fulfilled. Even now a Silmaril is in my hand.’ Then Thingol said: ‘Show it to me!’ And Beren [...] held up his right arm [Carcharoth had bitten off his hand with the Silmaril held inside]; and from that hour he named himself Camlost, the Empty-handed.

Then Thingol’s mood was softened; and Beren sat before his throne upon the left, and Lúthien upon the right, and they told all the tale of the Quest, while all there listened and were filled with amazement. And it seemed to Thingol that this Man was unlike all other mortal Men, and among the great in Arda, and the love of Lúthien a thing new and strange; and he perceived that their doom might not be withstood by any power of the world. Therefore at the last he yielded his will, and Beren took the hand of Lúthien before the throne of her father.

They had no idea where Carcharoth and the jewel were!

Once Beren proved himself worthy and Thingol saw how much Luthien loved him, he agreed to let Beren marry Luthien WITHOUT THE SILMARIL! 

How did I not notice this before?!

#Thingol #Beren #luthien #silmaril #Thingol gets too much hate for not supporting the Feanorians #Dude #they killed his people #people he knew and loved #for boats #BOATS #to a guy whose people were constantly dying to orcs and who had just barely survived a major attack on Morgoth #a whole new army of elves who'd proven themselves ready to kill his people for convenience and were willing to betray each other #could not have looked like good news #especially when they clearly wanted their own lands

[arafinweanappreciation]

Literally no one asked for this, but also I was inspired to finally write this all out because I've seen a couple of other posts about this cross my dash. So. I said that one day I would write a post about the parallels between Finrod and Turgon and their stories.

That day has come.

First off, they were born in the same year. If you look at the (sparse and rather unreliable) data we have on timelines for when other elves who are considered of the same generation are born, this is VERY uncommon. The only time it happens again is Aredhel and Galadriel, iirc, and I haven't had the time or energy to unpack any narrative parallels they might have as of yet.

Then, of course, we have very little information about their time in Valinor except that they were besties. Which makes sense. We DO know, however, that they both fell in love with Vanyarin women, Elenwe and Amarie, and lost them during the Flight of the Noldor. Elenwe dying during the crossing of the Helcaraxe, and Finrod leaving Amarie behind. Finrod and Amarie were seperated because she didn't follow him, and Turgon and Elenwe were seperated because she did.

After arriving in Beleriand, Finrod builds Minas Tirith and Turgon builds Vinyamar. It's been a while since I've reread the silm, so I actually don't remember a whole lot of details about Vinyamar. But my big point here is that Minas Tirith is on Tol Sirion on the river Sirion, and Vinyamar faced the sea. Both cities were strongly associated with bodies of water. There's also an interesting contrast in their fates. While Vinyamar was never touched by Morgoth or his servants, Minas Tirith eventually become Tol-in-Gaurhoth, the fortress of Sauron. Vinyamar was also an important location for Tuor, and Tol-in-Gaurhoth became an important location for Beren, both of whom ended up marrying elvish princesses of hidden realms.

Of course, there's the most obvious connection, with them both being given a dream by Ulmo instructing them to build hidden strongholds, after which they leave their original cities to build new ones. They also both have a tendency to take in and befriend mortal men. Húrin and Huor for Turgon and Beor, Barahir, and Andreth for Finrod. They were also both rescued from almost certain death in battle by said mortal men

And then we've got the stories of their deaths and the ruin of their cities. While these don't match up chronologically, they do have a LOT of parallels.

They both took in a nephew after one of their siblings died. Orodreth and Maeglin. Orodreth is trying desperately to fill Finrod's role, while Maeglin wants to undermine Turgon. Both stories heavily involve the influence of a mortal man who was close to the king. Also, Maeglin's and Turin's influence over Turgon and Orodreth, respectively, cause the kings to ignore the advice of even their most trusted advisors against their better judgement. Ultimately, both are destroyed.

Their deaths are also, like, not quite mirror images of each other. Finrod, who spent his time in Beleriand making friends, died with only one other person by his side, in a dungeon deep underground, because he was trying to help along what becomes one of the greatest love stories in Middle Earth. Turgon, who spent all his time in Beleriand hiding away, died surrounded by people who refused to leave him, in a high tower, because of Maeglin's love turned to darkness. They were both betrayed by family members they had taken in (Celegorm, Curufin, and Maeglin), and died in the towers they built.

Turgon's legacy is deeply entwined in the fate of Middle Earth through Idril and her descendants, while Finrod ultimately leaves very little behind. However, they both have massive lasting impacts on the Edain of Numenor. Especially the royal family, with the Kings of Numenor, Arnor, and Gondor being descended from Turgon, and the Ring of Barahir being passed down as an heirloom and symbol of the kingship (at least when they want to be associated with the eldar).

I don't know if there's more narrative significance to this than I'm seeing at the moment, I just noticed this after rereading one time and couldn't stop thinking about it. It's one of the reasons I love their relationship so much.

#tl;dr: finrod and turgon's lives share the same framework with mirror image details woven through it #and it's fascinating #correct me if i'm wrong on any of these points #or feel free to add more #parallels!!!! #silm #silmarillion #finrod #finrod felagund #turgon #next in this series of overly long and probably overanalyzing posts by me: #an examination of the noldor's relationship with fire and water #but that's way more disjointed and mostly just me with thumbtacks and string right now

[queensabriel]

Your LOTR Boromir lives fic ALREADY sounds amazing - are you willing to share anything about it or are you just focusing on working on it for now? Also I'd like to please ask about Gondorian names and how they're constructed and how you'd go about making one up (because I've got a LOTR fic in the early wip stages and a couple Gondor OCs that I still don't have names for, and I'd like to be accurate.)

Heehee oh i'm glad you're excited for it! I am kind of giving him a Jaime Lannister character arc (minus the, you know, twin stuff) in that instead of dying he's getting injured in a way that will affect him for the rest of his life and essentially mean that he can't be a warrior anymore and is going to have to rethink some large parts of his identity, as well as having the whole firsthand knowledge of how corrupting the ring can be. Also there's going to be some epic bestie friendship with Boromir and Eowyn, some really emotional shit when he's reunited with Merry & Pippin and also when he returns to Gondor finally.

I am also pondering the idea of working a plot in relating to my headcanon that the Arkenstone is one of the Silmarils, but i have to decide if that will be too much??? idk. AND YES LETS TALK GONDORIAN NAMES I'M HAPPY TO HELP.

HOKAY SO - you have a lot of options here, and they're all going to depend on the exact background of your characters and what you want their families to be like. A lot of people in Gondor who we're introduced to in canon are named after historical figures - Boromir is an example, Denethor another, also Faramir & Éowyn's grandson Barahir. So if you don't want to make up a name, you can literally just look at the family trees (all can be found on the lotr.fandom.com wiki) and pick something that you think fits. I'd also recommend looking them over to get a good feel for what names sound like.

But if you do want to do JRRT proud and dabble in some linguistics of your own you still have a lot of options for making up names! Names of Gondorian people are most commonly of Sindarin origin, but you don't have to hold tight to that. I personally think it would be very reasonable to have people with Rohirric names, and probably at least some with roots in Adûnaic - the language spoken in Númenor. (Especially if someone's parents are history buffs. Probably it would be weird for someone to have a completely Númenorian name like 'Ar-Zimraphel' but honestly as long as the strangeness is acknowledged you could go for it.

As for actual naming customs, everyone seems to just have the one name, I haven't really seen any examples of surnames or patronymics (other than being like "Faramir son of Denethor"), sometimes there will be references to lineage if someone comes from a Known Family - like Boromir being of the House of Húrin, but that's not really part of the name.

Here are some very useful sources:

Parf Edhellan is an amazingly comprehensive online dictionary, phrasebook and general information source for Tolkien linguistics, so if you're looking for specific word meanings that's the place to go. It's got every language JRRT made up.

If you want to grab some quick and easy premade Sindarin compound names, here is a very nice list to check out

Also I am always always happy to talk Tolkien stuff so if you wanna run anything by or bounce ideas off of me i am here for that :3

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Silmarillion Primer: The Edain

The Edain (Ee-day-in) are men who came west over the Ered Luin (Blue Mountains) and fought with the elves against Morgoth. Although the name Edain is a Sindarin word that simply means Men, it is usually only used in reference to the noble people of the House of Bëor, the House of Haleth and the House of Hador and their descendants.

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The House of Bëor

The first group of Men to come west over the mountains of Ered Luin, were of the House of Bëor. Bëor, known as Balan to his people, came west in search of the High Elves or the Valar, for his people had heard rumors of them in the east. Finrod Felagund was the first elf to encounter them as they camped in the region of Ossiriand just west of the Ered Luin. There was a language barrier between the two, but they could eventually understand one another since their language was based on the old elvish of the elves in the east. 

Finrod moves The House of Bëor out of Ossiriand and into the land of Estolad in the realm of Amrod and Amras of the Sons of Fëanor. Bëor became a vassal of Finrod and went to live with him in Nargothrond. The descendants of Bëor would ever be friends with the House of Finarfin, Finrod’s father. 

Bëor’s fourth great grandson, Barahir, would save Finrod at the Dagor Bragollach. For which, Finrod gave him what would be known as the Ring of Barahir, a token of their eternal friendship. That ring would be passed down to his son Beren Erchamion,and then through the generations from father to son until the end of the Third Age. When it would come to King Aragorn II Elessar of the Reunited Kingdoms of Arnor and Gondor. 

Notable Members of The House of Bëor:

Beren Erchamion- The Son of Barahir, he would travel into the Guarded Realm of Doriath and fall in love with Luthien, the daughter of Thingol and Melian, its rulers. He would brave the dungeons of Angband with Luthien to claim a Silmaril. His son would become the Ruler of Doriath, and the Father of Elwing, Eäredil’s wife and the grandfather of Elrond and Elros.

Morwen- 1st Cousin Once Removed of Beren (His Cousin’s Child), she married Hurín of the House of Hador. Bore him three children: Turín Turambar, Lalaith, and Niënor.

Rían- 1st Cousin Once Removed of Beren and Cousin to Morwen. She married Huor of the House of Hador, the brother of Hurín. They had one child: Tuor.

Through the marriage of Elwing to Eärendil, the two Houses of Bëor and Hador would produce the Kings and Queens of Númenor. The Númenoreans known as The Faithful would be primarily descended from the House of Bëor, and by extension the Dunédain of the North. 

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The House of Hador

The third house of the Edain to migrate west of Ered Luin. They were initially called the House of Marach, after their patriarch. When they were given the lands of Dor-lomín as a fief under Hador Lórindel, the name of the House became The House of Hador. They were the largest of the three Houses of the Edain. They would intermarry with the House of Bëor and together these two house would make up the majority of the Men of Númenor.  

Notable Members of the House of Hador:

Hurín Thalion- He was a great hero of men and a great friend to Turgon, High King of the Noldor and ruler of Gondolin. He and his brother, Huor, were brought to the city by the eagles of Manwë, which began that friendship. He would marry Morwen of the House of Bëor and have three children. One of which was Turín Turambar, who would also be a great hero of men. However, Hurín was captured at the Nirnaeth Arnoediad (Battle of Unnumbered Tears) and refused to tell Morgoth where Gondolin could be found. He was cursed by Morgoth to watch all the evil that befell his children. When he was finally released, he unknowingly led Morgoth to the general direction of Gondolin. Thus, preparing the way for Gondolin’s ultimate destruction.

Huor- brother of Hurín and of the House of Hador. He married Rían of the House of Bëor. They had one child, Tuor. He was friends with Turgon of Gondolin. At the Nirnaeth Arnoediad he and his brother bought Turgon’s army time to flee by holding the Fen of Serech. He would fall in that battle. He never met his son. 

Turín Turambar- The only son of Hurín and the heir to the Lordship of Dor-Lomín of the House of Hador. He would go on to do great deeds, but the wrath of Morgoth followed him always, causing all he did to go astray. He would eventually kill Glaurung the dragon, but he would take his own life shortly afterward when he learned that last bit of evil the dragon had done to him.

Tuor- The only son of Huor. He grew up with Sindar elves in Mithrim before being driven by fate to seek for the hidden city of Gondolin that his father and uncle once visited. His errand was to advise the High King of the Noldor, Turgon, to abandon the city while there was still time. Turgon heeded it not, but he did give Tuor the hand of his daughter, Idril, in marriage. They became the second union of Elf Maid to Mortal Man. He had one child, Eärendil. 

Eärendil- The Great Mariner. His family managed to escape the destruction of Gondolin and make it to the sea near the Mouths of the Sirion. There he married Elwing, who was a refugee of the destruction of Doriath at the hands of the Sons of Fëanor. They had twin sons, Elros and Elrond. He took the Silmaril that Elwing had inherited from her great grandfather, Thingol, and asked the Valar to save Elves and Men from the forces of Morgoth. He then became The Evening Star, wearing the Silmaril on his brow as his ship sailed the skies.

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The House of Haleth

The reclusive house of the daughter of Halad. There is not much to tell of them. When they came west of the Ered Luin, they refused to live in Estolad with the Houses of Bëor and Hador. They lived apart from them in the further north. 

However, they were surprised by orcs and much of their people were destroyed. They removed to the forests of Brethil in the realm of Doriath and did not participate much in the wars of The First Age. They were, however, not friends of Morgoth.

Hurín would, in his grief over the loss of his family, cause the destruction of the House of Haleth, for blamed them in part for the ruin of his son. He would lead the remnants of the House of Haleth to the ruins of Nargothrond, where he would abandon them. Few members of the House of Haleth survived the end of the First Age to become a part of the Númenoreans. 

The most relevant member of The House of Haleth, was the Daughter of Halmir, Hareth. She married Galdor of the House of Hador, and was the mother of Hurín and Huor. 

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[ao3feed-tolkien]

The New Shadow

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by Aredhelpalatine

Based on the book written by J.R.R. Tolkien Note: The content of this article has partially modified the content in the new shadow

According to legend, in ancient times, the great enemy Morgoth was defeated by Valinor's army and entered the void, but the seeds he planted with evil will one day blossom and bear fruit on the land of Middle earth，and when that day comes, He will break the shackles of the void, wipe out the brilliance of the sun, moon and stars, and the earth will fall into endless darkness, and the whole world will be drawn into the flames of war again

Words: 5116, Chapters: 3/3, Language: 中文-普通话 國語

Fandoms: The Lord of the Rings - J. R. R. Tolkien, The Silmarillion and other histories of Middle-Earth - J. R. R. Tolkien

Rating: Not Rated

Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death

Categories: F/M

Characters: Barahir (Fourth Age), Barahir (Steward of Gondor), Herumor (Tolkien), Eldarion (Tolkien), Sauron | Mairon, Morgoth Bauglir | Melkor, Melina, Vickey

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[arofili]

the line of elros ❖ stewards of gondor ❖ headcanon disclaimer

          Hador was the youngest child and only son of Túrin I by his second wife, Meldis. He witnessed his father’s poor treatment of his first family, Andreth of Belfalas and her daughters, and resolved to be a kinder husband and kinsman. After Túrin’s death, Hador reconciled with his estranged sisters and invited them to return to Minas Tirith. The youngest and worst-treated, Níniel, did not come, but her elder sisters Lalaith and Nellas were glad to be welcomed back to the city of their birth and the family they had left behind.           Lalaith was older than Hador’s own mother, and soon became a mentor to Meldis in needlework and philosophy. Nellas was likewise many years Hador’s elder, but the two became fast friends, and she often advised him in political decisions.           Due to Túrin’s age at the time of his birth, Hador inherited young, before his marriage. Like his father, Hador wed the love of his youth, but he was determined to remain a loving husband to his wife. Thus, when that wife confessed to him shortly after the birth of their first and only child that he was a man at heart, Hador fully supported his transition from wife to husband despite the scandal it caused in court. This husband, who named himself Maerion, lived joyfully at Hador’s side, though due to the hostile nature of Gondorian politics he often went on long journeys, mastering the bow and entering athletic competitions in the various fiefs throughout the land.           Hador ruled in a time of peace, and became known not for any great deeds but rather his alteration of the Stewards’ Reckoning first established by his ancestor Mardil Voronwë. On the three hundredth anniversary of the calendar’s implementation, he added an extra day to the year to reduce the millennial deficit and ensure that timekeeping was kept in synchronization with the seasons. He lived to an admirable age of 150 years, but was the last man of Gondor to have such a lifespan; after him, the lifespan of those with Númenórean blood began to wane.           The son of Hador and Maerion was Barahir, named as his father was for a mighty lord of the Edain. As his father’s reign was long and mostly uneventful, Barahir gave little thought to running a nation and focused instead on hunting in the White Mountains. He was frequently absent from home, leading to quarrels between him and his wife Taweneth. Though Taweneth did not leave Minas Tirith, after one such argument she did depart to a different part of the city, taking her daughter Rían with her, though Barahir insisted he keep his son Dior with him in the Stewards’ house.           Barahir grew old sooner than his ancestors, and upon his death at age 122 it began to be speculated that a harsh temperament decreased the lifespan of a Dúnadan. Fearing his own decline, his son Dior decided to spend his rule as Steward doing good deeds. Dior oversaw the renovation of Minas Tirith’s lower districts, providing food and shelter for the poor, and ensured that Gondor’s outer settlements received as much support as the capital did. Alas, this did not prevent him from succumbing to old age at 107, though he was remembered kindly by his people for his efforts. Still, he lived longer than his namesake, whose elven blood did not prevent him from an early death at age 36.           Dior never married, for his desires were turned toward men and the attitude of Gondor was against such unions at the time, especially after his grandfathers Hador and Maerion flouted custom with their “unconventional” marriage. He took various lovers throughout his life, but kept his affections secret to all but his sister Rían, whose son Denethor was named Dior’s heir.           Rían came of age free of her father’s shadow. She became an herbalist in the Houses of Healing and was known for her curiosity about the wider world. Once, on a visit to Ithilien, Rían made the acquaintance of an elf who had once been of the Laegrim, those led by King Denethor who died on Amon Ereb. Rían greatly admired her new friend and was eager to hear the tales of the Laegrim, returning to Minas Tirith to ensure the story was recorded correctly. She even named her son Denethor in the Avarin king’s honor.           The husband of Rían was Bellmund, a farmer who dwelt on the outskirts of the Pelennor Fields who once came to the Houses of Healing for treatment of a deep cut received while reaping his crops. They fell in love and were soon wed; though her mother Taweneth was sad to see her daughter leave, she allowed Rían to move to her husband’s farm, in part to spite Barahir’s disapproval of the union.           When Barahir died and Dior became Steward, Rían frequently took to visiting her brother in the city, accompanied by her son Denethor. When it became apparent that Dior would not marry, she convinced him to name Denethor his heir, and moved her family from Bellmund’s farm to the Steward’s House.

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