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azurecanary · 3 months
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To get my one complaint out of the way:
The Young Avengers were not formed because "Hey there are multiple superheroes under the age of thirty"
They were formed because the Avengers were literally destroyed, and New York needed heroes
It was not this after school club
It was "there's so much villainy going on in this city, and Kang the fucking Conqueror is coming in three days. we are the only people with some link to the Avengers therefore we must stop this"
Eli became Patriot to honour his grandfather and fight crime
Teddy became Hulkling to protect people and figure out his identity
Billy became Asgardian/Wiccan to stand up for the little guy and to honour the Scarlet Witch
Kate became Hawkeye to beat up bad people and save the people with powers
Cassie became Stature to honour her father and carry on his legacy
Nathaniel became Iron Lad as an attempt to stop his evil future from coming to pass
Vision became a Young Avengers to honour Nathaniel and the original Vision
Tommy became Speed to right his wrongs
It was never "you're under thirty, I'm under thirty, wanna team up?"
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greatghuleh · 2 years
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so funny because the first Doctor Strange movie visually adapted so many things so well then like... half the magic spells/artifacts are just so boring looking. hahahaha
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thisthisthisandthis · 2 years
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oscar isaac may calamawy and ethan hawke VS hemsworthhiddlestonwaititi. choose
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starsopinions · 7 months
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Sylki should have been a sibling relationship
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Loki season 1 starts with Loki from The Avengers, Loki is at a very low point in his life, and he hates himself. I have seen people claiming that he falls in love with himself because he is just such a narcissist, but he doesn't even like himself let alone a different version of himself. He hasn’t had any of the character development of the later movies yet so why would the writers try and give him a romance plot when there is such a good opportunity to have Loki and Sylvie have a sibling relationship which neither of them had growing up. So here is why is think Sylki should have been a sibling relationship.
Sibling relationship
In Thor: The Dark World and Thor: Ragnarok we see Loki and Thor’s relationship building and slowly getting better but before that and up until The Avengers, they fight all the time and Loki is angry at Odin and Thor. Loki constantly feels left out and, in his own words, lives in Thor’s shadow. So when his life is suddenly uprooted by the TVA and he meets Sylvie, instead of being interested romantically he could instead take her under his wing and have a more sibling-like relationship. He could then see what it is like to have a good relationship with a sibling, in contrast to what his relationship with Thor was like. 
I think this could also work to set up a future reunion between Thor and Loki. Kevin Feige recently said: “But for that meeting to really be fulfilling, we have to get Loki to a certain place emotionally.” I think that this sibling relationship could get him there. He could see what went wrong between him and Thor and see that maybe Thor didn’t always do the right thing but he meant well. Loki would be the ‘older sibling’ in this situation which could help him gain more insight into Thor’s decisions and have a better understanding of them.
I think that, on the flip side, it also works well from Sylvie’s point of view. She barely remembers Asgard or Frigga and probably can’t recall ever having a (good) relationship with Thor. She has been on the run her entire life and has never known real friendship or family. So Loki could teach her what it means to have a family, or they could even discover it together seeing as Loki doesn’t have the best relationship with his family either. Loki could teach her what Frigga taught him and tell her stories about their home (imagine how cute that would be). Sylvie could learn to trust again and experience fun in her life. 
Sylki doesn’t work
Besides this, I also want to shine some light on why I think that Sylki, as a romantic relationship, does not work. As I said earlier, Loki is at a really low point in his life and it doesn’t make sense to give him a romantic interest because he has issues and he desperately needs some character development which is just blatantly ignored in favour of this romantic storyline. But even his romantic interest doesn’t seem to be ready for any romance in her life. Sylvie has barely had the chance to see what life is like and it seems such a weird choice to immediately jump into something romantic without her getting the chance to live. There is also the argument that these characters may not be ready for love but that sometimes it is just there, no matter if you are ready or not. But I don’t agree with that because these aren’t real people, there are writers who can 100% decide what happens. So I think they should get that character development that they need through their sibling relationship. 
I think something else that has been bothering me is that it is kind of, maybe, possibly incest. I know the lines of that are blurry because obviously, we have never seen something like this before in real life so it’s hard to judge, I do understand if anyone else doesn’t think it is weird, but it just doesn't sit right with me. I also think the show writers realised this and that’s why Sylvie isn’t named Loki and she doesn’t look like Loki at all and all that makes it even weirder.
Chemistry
Another issue I have with this couple is that, in my opinion, they just aren’t that cute together. They don’t have any romantic chemistry and all their bonding seems more sibling-like rather than anything else. Take for instance season 1, episode 3. They are on Lamentis and they are fighting over the TemPad (around 6:30 if you want to watch it back), their bickering and taunts seem so sibling-like. Another example is season 1, episode 4. They are both captured and are about to meet The Time-keepers (around 35:00). The way Sylvie checks in on Loki, I just don’t see them as a couple they act like siblings. Even the iconic blanket sharing moment (S1, ep 5 30:00), the awkwardness and the way Loki tries to take care of Sylvie. To me, it just seems like an older brother trying to take care of Sylvie. 
Lokius
And on top of all of that, I think there is one more point left to make. There is a much more suitable match for Loki right there, and it’s Mobius! But like I said, I think Loki needs some character development before he is truly ready for an actual relationship. Especially because this show is about Loki and a part of that is that he is bisexual and genderfluid which isn’t explored at all in the show so I think it would be cool to see him coming out as bisexual in season 1 and slowly growing comfortable around Mobius. I think it would fit the themes of the show well and a good slow burn is always welcome in my book. Also, did y’all see the way Loki searched for Mobius in season 2, episode 1? Because that’s the kind of chemistry I’m missing in Sylki!! 
I’m very excited to see where they will take us with Loki season 2. I think so far (2 episodes in) they are doing an amazing job with storytelling, comedy and cinematography and as always Tom, Sophia and the rest of the cast have been absolutely killing it!! Let me know if you agree with me and don’t forget to maybe reblog and like and all that fun Tumblr stuff :) 
Disclaimer: This is no hate at all to anyone who worked on the show! I am a huge fan but these are just my opinions! :D
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imposterogers · 1 year
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now that i’m fully immersed back into my cap squad era, i’d just like to remind everyone that 1. kevin feige rejected the original cap 3 plotline bc it wasn’t “big enough” and forced civil war & 2. tony stark’s role was supposed to be small (three weeks max of filming small. which makes sense bc it was a captain amerca film) but rdj threatened to walk if they didn’t rewrite to give him more screen time and then went on to call the film his iron man 4. 
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doctorofmagic · 7 months
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Why magic in the MCU has failed
I remember the "good" old days when Doctor Strange was about to debut back in 2016. I was obsessed with spotting every single little magic detail in the MCU in the hope that magic would slowly grow in status and importance, only to give up after so much disappointment.
But the major issue? The moment Feige stated that every side project was a part of the MCU. People who experienced phase 1 and 2 will remember that magic was a taboo. "It's just science we don't understand yet". While it's a common line quoted by Marvel's greatest geniuses, we all know it's pure arrogance on their part. Otherwise, they'd be doing what magic users do.
It was not MCU's case. Magic was INDEED treated as science. From Ghost Rider's portal being reproduced by a robot through the Darkhold to Wanda's powers being a product of an experiment but not explained at all. From a loooong season of Cloak and Dagger taking its time to finally introduce magic elements to Nico's staff almost falling to the same old "technology" trope. From whatever is happening in Asgard to Loki's limited magic. It's frustrating, but we'd still find a way to turn the tables, right? The Dark Dimension was introduced (twice?), the (third) Darkhold was finally attached to Chthon, Morgana and Lorelei debuted, Nico's powers were finally acknowledge as magic... So what happened?
My best guess? Structure.
There's no structure to define what is magic in the MCU. Doctor Strange (2016) tried. Really hard. And, although it got several things right, it failed in two fundamental aspects: pre-established comic book knowledge and magic deities.
Remember how we got three Darkholds? The first was just so detached from magic that it became a book used to create a VIRTUAL world in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. The second was used by Morgan le Fey, but how was she associated with the Dark Dimension? Moreover, that was NOT the Dark Dimension from the first DS movie (or any comic book, really). Its last appearance, as seen in WandaVision and DSITMOM, finally mentioned Chthon, but it literally did NOTHING it was supposed to do. That MCU!Wanda has nothing to do with her 616 version, this is not new. But if we're going to use comic books as foundation to adapt a story, the very bare minimum you can do is do it right. Point is, the book does corrupt people, but it's because of Chthon's influence and his connection to Wanda. Where's Chthon in the movie? The corruption was badly explored and her journey towards evil and redemption doesn't make any sense from a magic point.
Now, the "main" magic cast in the MCU could have worked... Except that there's little to no information regarding how Kamar-Taj works as a temple/school for new sorcerers. And worse even, magic isn't connected to its deities. Sure, there were a few name drops, but does it explain where it comes from? And who chooses the next sorcerer supreme if the Vishanti isn't involved?
The truth is, magic was all over the place, and the creative minds were either too oblivious to the importance of learning about how magic works in comics (to the point of adapting a second Dark Dimension that has nothing to do with the original one) or too shy to introduce a magic hierarchy (as in, deities).
There's an actual attempt to create this structure now, but it's too late. Sure, you can ignore past tv shows, but the mess remains. Eternity was supposed to be an abstract entity, deeply connected to magic, cosmic aspects and life itself.
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Loki is still so embarrassing because the very foundation of Asgardian mythos started wrong (and why is that? Because no magic, of course!). While I find funny that Stephen trapped Loki in an endless freefall, there's no way the god of stories would be humiliated like that. Loki being taught magic by his alts is infuriating (and it's, again, mostly illusions).
Remember when Stephen was beaten by math? That also happened.
This is the moment I completely give up to see magic portrayed at its fullest, in all its beauty and complexity. Because it's not treated the way it deserves. It has never been.
And here's my boldest take: if you really wish to see the full potential of magic in the MCU, go for What If. The price you pay, the cosmic proportion of being misused, the creative elements... It's all there. Which is sad because it's not the main timeline. Anyways, this is it.
PS: This post may age poorly as DS3 comes out in 20 years. Let's wait and see.
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Ok, so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but to anyone who is unhappy about Wanda’s arc in MoM:
*Spoilers ahead*
ETA: I don’t think 616 Wanda is dead, but I still have to cover all of my bases
As a longtime fan of the comics, I am more than familiar with the song and dance of Wanda oscillating between being a hero, an antihero, and a villain. Changing sides has been the story of her character since her origins as a member of the Brotherhood alongside Pietro and Magneto and continued on through the decades with her going crazy, turning evil, and/or dying probably once a decade ever since.
From the beginning, Lizzie has said that she wanted to see some of Wanda’s most iconic moments, ie. the “no more mutants” line from House of M. She WANTS to see House of M. She wants to touch on those infamous moments of villainy that are so well-known and loved. She wants to portray Wanda in a comic-accurate way (sans the sexualization) because she sees how unique Wanda is and how fun she is to play. From the very beginning Lizzie has done her best to champion Wanda being treated correctly as a complex, troubled young woman who has lost everything and been wronged by the world over and over. She has helped tremendously in crafting MCU Wanda as a well-rounded character who went from forgettable in the minds of many to absolutely adored thanks to Wandavision. I remember seeing Infinity War and Endgame in theaters and being one of the only ones cheering when she beat Thanos’s ass, meanwhile at my MoM screening 80% (or more) of people were wearing Wanda/Wandavision shirts and cheering when she came on screen.
Wandavision gave us Wanda processing her grief in all of the expected stages and with special attention to denial. When we last saw her, she had flown off with the Darkhold and was hearing Billy & Tommy calling for her during what we now know was likely dreamwalking/at least her peeking in on the other universes. Anyone familiar with the Darkhold will know its immense power and how it corrupts those who use it and Wanda is no different. Especially as, when we saw her, she was heavily grieving the loss of her brother, husband, and children all over again after the collapse of Westview. She was vulnerable and desperate, and seeing what Agatha could do with the Darkhold paired with her lack of knowledge and its promise to help drew her in. She was, once again, taken advantage of in a vulnerable moment. The only difference here was that it was the Darkhold and Cthon’s writings rather than another human being.
At least as of right now, I do not see her characterization and arc in MoM as a step back. I believe she is what she said she is: a mother who is beyond desperate to have her children back because she has NO ONE ELSE. None of the other Avengers have shown their faces to try and help her. Even Stephen only showed up when he needed help. Wanda was alone with a book filled with dark magic and abilities she was only just beginning to understand; how could anyone expect that to end well?
Wanda is my favorite MCU character and my favorite comic character. She always has been and always will be. I am so thrilled to have gotten to see so much more of her in the MCU between Wandavision and MoM, and yes it did hurt to see her in so much agony and I didn’t want her to succeed in getting America or her powers, but I also understand and appreciate why (I think) they continued her story the way they did. I am going to tell myself over and over that she isn’t actually dead because I can’t imagine her being gone from the MCU, but I also think that Feige knows full-well how loved she is and how integral she can/will be to continuing to thread the multiverse storyline together. Especially with the introduction of mutants.
So, uh, if you’ve read this far… thanks for coming to my Ted Talk. I’ll probably have more to say later once I’m no longer sleep deprived, but I hope this all makes sense for now.
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Ranting about the old Netflix Marvel shows:
Looking back at the original NMCU as a whole, while I think the general consensus is that this side of the MCU fell off when “Iron Fist” premiered, I think the real issue is more complicated then that. I think that the Netflix shows started off strong, but couldn’t implement their long-term plans for their side of the universe due to mismanagement/lack of collaboration. Oddly enough, the NMCU sorta reflects the current issues with Phases 4 and 5 of the mainstream MCU.
When you look at the shows overall, it feels like a bunch of creators were given free reign with these characters, and it shows. All of them had their own distinct identity, as well as what audience they were targeting. The problems started occurring when the shows had to start connecting.
I can’t say this for sure, but it really feels like no one was put in a Kevin Feige-like position to direct the overall journey. Instead, it feels like Jeph Loeb and Marvel Television (which was its own thing before being absorbed by Marvel Studios) just sorta mandated that the shows need to have a big crossover event. It made sense, especially since the Arrowverse was pulling this off as an annual thing with their shows. While it sounds good on paper, I feel like none of the teams behind each show were in sync with each other:
1) Daredevil didn’t really find a good way to balance the needs of the show and the needs of the crossover. Rewatch season 2 and you’ll notice that while the Punisher storyline feels more thought-out, the Elektra storyline feels jumbled and incomplete. In fact, the first 4 episodes are focused on Frank, and then all of a sudden, Elektra is pushed into the story. I can’t prove this but it feels like the original idea was to focus on Frank Castle, but then Elektra had to be introduced in order to set up “The Defenders”. Which was premiering the following year.
2) Jessica Jones didn’t even bother building up into “The Defenders”.
3) Neither did “Luke Cage”.
4) Although I have a ton of separate issues with “Iron Fist”, I do feel sorry for the production team. This show had the unfortunate burden of having to introduce its hero while also doing most of the build-up for the crossover. To make matters worse, if you read up on the behind-the-scenes development, you would know that the show was rushed out. Finn Jones was literally learning the fight choreography minutes before filming.
I have this funny feeling that Marvel Television set up the schedule for each show and refused to change it. Given more time, Netflix could’ve made it work. I can easily imagine the Elektra storyline being its own season of “Daredevil”, “Jessica Jones” and “Luke Cage” each having a season focused on the Hand, and “Iron Fist” being given more breathing room to introduce Danny Rand before diving into the crossover.
But let’s say Marvel Television didn’t want to make people wait that long for a crossover. Then they still failed to move the storyline of the shows in a way that could naturally lead into “The Defenders”. You’re telling me Jessica and Luke couldn’t have at least had a 1-2 episode subplot about the Hand? Or that the Daredevil team couldn’t have introduced Frank Castle later on in order to prioritize Elektra, who is arguably the most important character in the crossover? “Iron Fist”, while not a good show, at least tried to lead into the crossover.
(Side note: Just as a reminder, a common problem people had with the NMCU was that each season was too long at 13 episodes and that the shows didn’t have enough story to squeeze in. Jessica and Luke could’ve definitely worked in a 1-2 episode Hand stand-alone subplot to offset these issues)
I don’t mean for this post to take away from any of these shows. I still am fond of the NMCU. But looking back at it, I can’t help but feel that they were mismanaged. Good on their own, but since they had a crossover miniseries set up, there needed to be stronger collaboration between each show. Or, at least move the damn crossover if the shows weren’t ready for one.
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amageish · 5 months
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I'm going MCU on main again for a brief moment to get something off of my chest.
So, today, Bob Iger opened his mouth and said this:
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First off, this is a rude thing to say! Like people worked hard on the movie and it is very weird for him to blame its flopping on a lack of supervision by execs - especially when the film's director, who has been treated really grossly by the media in general, literally broke the record for highest-grossing film by a black female director with this movie (and, yes, the fact that the lowest-grossing Feige-produced Marvel movie is also the highest-grossing film by a black female director is really depressing and says a lot about Hollywood's diversity problem).
It's especially weird for him to say this when plenty of other Disney movies starring/directed-by cishet white dudes have been flopping this year too. The vibes aren't great. I don't like it.
Second off... Well, um, if there weren't execs sticking their noses in everything, then this suddenly makes more sense to me in hindsight.
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Since that story broke, I have been wondering how they got to the point that a gay scene with Carol Danvers was even filmed without Marvel execs stepping in and smacking everyone with the hetero-hammer... and I suppose "the execs weren't there" is as good of an explanation as any! While the final cut of the film falls short of explicit queer representation, I do have to hand it to DaCosta, the cast, and the crew for taking advantage of the opportunity and trying their darnedest...
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tardisesandtitans · 3 months
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Still absolutely appalled there'll be no season three of Loki. There's so many unanswered questions. So many things left in SEASON ONE that weren't even addressed. The only conclusive thing was Loki's sacrifice. I know he'll probably (hopefully) show up in the 2025/2026 Marvel films, but even Eric Martin said that the goal is to get Thor and Loki together again. Did that happen? No
But is the series over? YES.
Aside from Mobius' ending being depressing, Miss Minutes new status being undecided, the weird pie never being addressed, Brad having fucked off god knows where and Sylvie ending the series with a smile when every episode she's (rightfully) been angry, SYLKI NEVER GOT RESOLVED. MICHEAL WALDRON SAID THE CORE OF THE SHOW WAS THAT IT WAS A LOVE STORY. If You Love Me was chosen by Kevin feige himself. All we got was a small smile from Sylvie and Loki just B4 his sacrifice. And something that makes no sense was Sylvie shouting that she hits to get down there when he was on the walkway, yet she never did.
Which is all even weirder once you remember that the show was said to be like two chapters of a book. Well, they must have been reading two entirely different books because Sylki started in S1, but they ended there. The only hints at it we got was BC Tom and Sophia are brilliant actors who conveyed everything with their eyes (Soaf made a Sylvie playlist! She's commented on what she thinks Sylvie could do post s2. She's best girl, love her)
What makes this even more sad is that I read somewhere Sylvie had a whole backstory that the writers hoped they could use in S2. But Sylvie's screen time was cut in half, then most of the half she had was cut into smithereens. She was just there to work at McDonalds, be angry and be a prop for the men.
(That 'there you are!' scene in the first ep seemed a lot more romantic than what we actually got. Oh and Loki saying 'I promise this will make sense'. She was told fuck all.)
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theavengers · 5 months
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Michael Waldron has been tapped to write Marvel Studios‘ Avengers: The Kang Dynasty. Waldron had already been set to write the installment that would follow Kang Dynasty and will now write both films. Waldron has become one of Marvel’s most trusted creative minds having previously created and served as showrunner of season 1 of Loki as well as writing Doctor Strange in The Multiverse of Madness and the move make sense to the studio to have him pen both films. Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige will produce.
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bucky-boychik-barnes · 7 months
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This Week In Fandom History about Endgame:
"It was so obvious they didn't care what story they were telling, as long as it was big and shocking and a twist that nobody saw coming, because it didn't make any fucking sense. As long as there were huge battle scenes and huge amounts of CGI. And as long as RDJ got jerked off with a wad of thousand dollar bills directly into Kevin Feige's face, that's all that really matters."
I am surviving and THRIVING on this podcast today.
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I don't plan watching Loki s2 at all, but they talked about NY and keep blaming Loki for it (not that I'm surprised)? I'm sensing they either want us to forget about Thanos or make us believe he did nothing wrong (y'know, aside from torturing nebula and loki and killing gamora and loki and half of the universe and-)
Yeah, I'm not watching either and scenes like that only confirm my decision to skip the whole thing.
The Thanos apologism is getting out of hand post-Phase 3.
Sometimes I think it has something to do with the idea that they want their audience to be edgy guys and Thanos is the poster boy for toxic masculinity: He shows no emotions other than hate and rage, he kills women, he enjoys violence and torture and he's super OP for no reason.
Or maybe it's just that these new writers feel like mocking everything that came before and they sacrifice narrative cohesion for a quick laugh. It is a huge contrast to how James Gunn always treated Thanos and his victims, comes to show who cares about the characters and who doesn't...
But yeah, this blaming Loki for NYC is absolutely insane to me. The Thor1 writers said Feige had requested a really good villain for the movie since he wanted a great antagonist for The Avengers, and they delivered. Then Whedon did a fantastic job of turning Loki into a villain while at the same time giving us enough subtle (and not so subtle) hints at something else going on, making not only Loki's but Thanos' stories far more interesting, and now they have no issue in ruining all that wonderful characterization for... a quick laugh? A quote that can be shared on X and other social media is worth retconning the story? Really? 🤦‍♀️
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iseathegalaxy · 6 months
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THE MCU IS GETTING A SOFT REBOOT, LISTEN
what if the main timeline, the sacred timeline, the one we've known for over a decade, the one we've always known to be 199999 is getting erased for good?
we've been hearing kevin feige say the mcu is actually 616 for a while now and we've all (including iman "ms marvel" herself) called bullshit on that because that's the thing that's always made the MCU make sense with the stories they've been telling, the fact that it is not the same timeline as the comics, that's always been the whole point.
however, this tweet now makes me think the following: what if, now that disney owns literally everything marvel-comics related so as to have it all be part of the cinematic universe, they do go for the soft reboot (the rumours that have been going around) as the way to make the main timeline earth 616??
we all saw the ending of loki s2 ep4 and, unless a fucking miracle happened afterwards, everything got blown to shit, the sacred timeline is no longer, so they're probably waking up to the timelines all broken and messed up and they'll be in a "shard" of one so maybe the point now is gonna be making all the pieces left fit into a single timeline?? that way they can literally pick and choose what they keep, what they remove, and, most importantly, what they add !!! I'm talking miles, the x-men, f4, deadpool, and so, so much more.
in the end, sure, they wouldn't have managed to save everyone, but we knew that was imposible, but this way they at least aren't forced to make the choice "which timeline gets to live and why this one over the rest because the sheer chaos of all of them together is unmanageable" but rather they have to piece a new one together because there's no other choice, there's literally not one timeline left whole to "choose".
this is just my theory, my brain's been going insane thinking about that cliffhanger and the future of the MCU as a whole and this one tweet (from an unofficial/official account, mind you) just sent me spiralling, hopefully I made sense
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miraculousbohemian · 1 month
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Hello MCU fandom, I'm really bored now and I'm also pissed at Marvel for not knowing shit about countries and their developments so in retaliation I've decided to make my own version of where Sokovia would be located as a fellow Slav.
I'm pretty sure it would have been somewhere around what we know as Vojvodina today, and Vojvodina is really diverse, it's a melting pot basically, so it does make sense. And the Cyrillic they used was Serbian as some people on Reddit pointed out.
Y'all I'll develop an entire lore about Sokovia I'll go crazy I know it, but I swear I'll get it to reach Feige one day.
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tobiasdrake · 7 days
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Watched the Deadpool and Wolverine trailer like five times now. No idea if this movie is going to be good but it sure looks fun.
Spoiler-ish thoughts after the jump.
Stoked for the premise of Buddy Cop Mad Max in the Void at the End of Time. It took me a couple watches to realize that was where they are for like half of the scenes in the trailer. But that is definitely where they are for like half of the scenes in the trailer. You can even see Alioth in two shots.
Makes sense given that the T.V.A are such a heavy presence in the marketing up to this point. Have Wade and Logan been pruned? Is that why Wade's world is in danger? The T.V.A. aren't supposed to be doing that anymore. I'm very interested in seeing where the film is going with this.
That the 20th Century Fox logo has been pruned is such a... Never change, Deadpool movies. (Also that Feige cocaine bit. XD)
Only vaguely familiar with Cassandra Nova. I think I've read one arc of X-Men she was in? The wicked sister of Charles Xavier or something like that?
She seems to be in the Void too. So she's probably not what's threatening Wade's world. (Probably the T.V.A.)
Trailer doesn't give away much details but gives a basic idea of what to expect. Like The Marvels, it looks like this is a movie that's going to be carried by the chemistry of its leads more than anything. At least, that's how it's being marketed. The twin "Let's fucking go" recitations gave me chills.
Be interesting to see how this movie does at the box office. Deadpool films have been pretty stable; $782m and $786m respectively.
On the one hand, Logan's presence may provide a crossover bump; Crossover films typically sell like hotcakes in Marvel's market. Though Wolverine's never made the kind of money Deadpool does; Wade is actually the X-franchise's biggest seller. Even Logan, critically acclaimed though it was, never reached the heights of either of Wade's films. But that doesn't change the fact that crossovers sell.
On the other hand, it's been six years since the last Deadpool film so some of the momentum may have been lost; Deadpool and Deadpool 2 only had two years between them.
So it's a toss-up as to how well this film is going to perform.
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