#anti ship hate

[iggycest]

Wishing every proshipper on this site that sees this post an absolutely wonderful day!

You are so strong and brave for getting through every single day. Despite the hate and harsh comments thrown your way, you stick to who you are and don’t let their comments sway you! Because - after all - they’re just people on the internet. What they think doesn’t define you. You’re not a horrible person for what you ship or don’t ship. You’re not a horrible person for not harassing those that enjoy problematic fictional content.

You have every single right to a good day. You’ve earned it!

#proship #pro ship #proshipper #pro shipper #Proshipping #pro shipping #anti anti #anti anti safe #pro ship safe #proship safe #anti harassment #anti ship hate #anti antis please interact #pro shippers please interact #proshippers please interact #proship positivity #pro ship positivity

[commander-erwin-smith]

I’ve noticed that in the MHA fandom a lot of the people that have an overreaction to straight ships and get defensive over their gay ships always respond with “all these homophobic dudebros just want their straight ships,” or something cringey like that.

Like who still says dudebros?

It’s 2023.

Yeah that is super cringey of them. With what's going on in the manga currently there's going to be a ship war no doubt and we'll be seeing lots of that cringe woke shit.

#ask #anonymous #anti ship hate #bnha discourse

[akadreamie]

Since antis wanna claim to be the bigger, better people : here is an anti doing what they do best!

Not censoring the username so people can steer clear of them and stay safe.

#proship #pro ship #pro shipper #proshipper #pro shipping #proshipping #anti anti #anti anti safe #proship safe #pro ship safe #important #anti ship hate #anti harassment #please read #anti reciepts #important post

[star-wars-trash]

Getting real tired of antis in the ship tags making posts about how morally bad shippers are or how shippers can't respect boundaries because they reply to posts specifically shitting on shippers or taking it as a personal attack and betrayal when people they followed post ship stuff on their own blogs.

All due respect (which is none), I'm tired of being nice about this. If you can't handle people shipping things you don't like, you are not mature enough to use the internet. Log off and grow up.

#shipping #pro ship #proshipping #anti ship hate #anti shipping #pro shipping #fandom bullshit #ship and let ship

[burn-the-retcon]

There’s a thing which struck me in the comments on Sophia McDougall’s post “The Rape of James Bond” which explains an awful lot about the writers’ and fandom’s attitude to Zebruh Codakk.

“The subject I was most interested in was realism in depiction of violence against oppressed/underprivileged. Because it is really difficult to prove sometimes that an author is exploiting and delighting in depiction of such violence, and not (only) tries to arouse a noble anger in his readers. I think that the argument in the post are applicable not only to rape, but to a wide spectrum of violence, e.g. such widespread depictions of abuse of children or cruel murders of animals. Such scenes are common in Dostoyevsky’s prose, for instance.

The trouble with these scenes lies in the declared goal “to induce aversion to such atrocious behaviour”. This goal presupposes its target audience, and it consists of those who by default do not associate themselves (and are not associated by others) with the survivor or victim of the violent act. That usually means a privileged person. The plan is that reading such a scene would let them understand a bit more of the vulnerability of the underprivileged to violence. (It must be said that this will not necessarily be the actual outcome. The readers may enjoy the show and do not feel it as being contradictory to authorial intent.) So the potential readers who are already associating themselves with the victim, because they are also vulnerable, are not seen – are in a blind spot. It is no discovery for them that the victim of such violence is a person with feelings; and the detailed depiction of the violent act, by its design excluding them from the audience, is re-traumatizing, because it makes them re-live or recollect similar acts of violence against them or other members of the underprivileged group with whom they associate themselves.“

Friendsim isn’t meant as some kind of “do not do this” morality play, but they pile on and pile on negative traits which end up contradicting each other to this character with the intention that the players will sneer at him and think of themselves as better than him, without considering that he’s doing these things TO anyone. Sexual harassment and enslavement are used as vaguely abstract bad things for a character to do, and MSPA Reader only ever thinks about them in the context of how they don’t want to hang out with Zebruh, not in terms of how they should be helping his victims. Admittedly they’re controlled by Scratch into focusing on his goals, but it never even crosses their mind even when Scratch’s control starts to break down, except for a brief moment in the doomed timeline which ends up helping no one and is more just present to demonstrate to the reader that enslavement is happening at all. On this side of the fourth wall, the enslaved trolls never get names or faces and no one seems to care.

This is also pretty symptomatic of the anti movement, honestly. A lot of anti-shippers seem under the impression that the problem with CSEM is “bad people like it”, not that it hurts people. They’re under the impression that viewing people who do bad things in contempt is enough in and of itself to make one a good person.

#hiveswap #zebruh codakk #anti ship hate

[mfshipbracket]

#surprise couple! #mf ship bracket #mf ship bracket 2023 #bonus round #kylo ren #rey #reylo #anti-reylo #star wars #unsure how to tag these i've been relying wholly on amanda's research and fandom experience. #ummmmm #king charles #royal family #camilla parker bowles #parasites in chief in their idiot hats #full credit to amanda messaging me at 4am like “i think reylo could beat king charles and camilla. food for thought” #hope u guys enjoy <3 #like i said. this is my little thought experiment #anti reylo tag here like . do we need anti monarchy too. sorry this one is hateful

[crimson-rain-smoked-flower]

I’m not trying to attack you, but do you know that proshipper means someone who supports and romanticizes pedophilia, incest, and abuse? Your reblog on that post seems to read that you think antis just hate on people for having ships they don’t like. But it’s completely different than that. Just looking on the proshipper side of Tumblr and the internet and you can see people happily shipping children and adults and making nsfw content of such things.

i appreciate that you're not being outright hostile, but i have to say, that on its own put you above basically every anti i've interacted with.

i understand where antis are coming from, i really do. there are a lot of things on the internet that make me deeply uncomfortable, including the minor/adult ships that you mention. i don't want to anything to do with those kinds of ships and i would be happiest if i never saw them again. which is why i'm proship.

nine times out of ten, if i see that kind of ship brought up on my dash, it's because i was following an anti without realizing it, and they brought it up unprompted and untagged, to talk about how bad it is that they exist. they are the ones putting that kind of content in front of my face and making it harder to avoid.

the thing about people who ship those ships is that they're generally very aware that not everyone wants to see that kind of content, and so they tag it. they make sideblogs to talk about it. they don't go out of their way to shove it in people's faces. that means i, and everyone else who doesn't like it, can avoid it.

what antis want is for it to not exist at all. they want the tags to be purged and blocked, and for anyone who uses those tags to have their accounts deleted. and sure, that might get rid of some of it, but do you know what would happen to the rest? it would stop being tagged. people who don't want to see it wouldn't have the tools to avoid it. this isn't just a hypothetical, that's what's happened any time a fan space has tried to do that.

that's not even getting into the rabbit hole of what should be banned and what shouldn't. obviously any content that depicts real children or real life abuse shouldn't exist and shouldn't be allowed to be posted, but basically any platform that people use already enforces those policies, and there's not much of a slippery slope to go down there. if it involves real living breathing people being abused, it's bad. end of discussion.

but the same can't be said for fiction. ask ten antis for a specific list of all the content that should be banned, and you'll get ten different answers. what about kink? what about roleplay? what about horror and murder and anything that involves fictional characters being graphically tortured? what about people using art to process terrible things that have happened to them? what about art that uses dark themes as a horror element? if you just want to ban anything questionable to anyone, that's the line of thinking that gets any mention of lgbt existence banned. and again, this isn't just a hypothetical, this has happened before, and that's generally where it leads.

i know, from personal experience, that antis do, in fact, send harassment to people just for shipping things they don't like. i've gotten accused of absolutely vile shit for shipping two fictional characters who were both consenting adults. i've seen ship wars turn into moral battlegrounds, over ships that an average person wouldn't bat an eye at.

the thing about "romanticization" is a whole other can of worms. the anti logic goes like this: if someone sees something (even if it's very obviously fictional) in a positive light enough times, they will start thinking it's okay in real life, and go on to hurt real people. the problem with that is that it's just. blatantly untrue.

if it were true every horror movie fan would be a serial killer, every person that studies dark media would be an unhinged psychopath, and everyone who is into ddlg would be a pedophile. but they're not. they just aren't. people have directed movies just as fucked up as the darkest shit on ao3, and are still capable of being normal human beings who know right from wrong in real life.

even if someone is that impressionable, scrubbing away the existence of every piece of questionable content isn't going to solve their problem, because they're still going to be vulnerable to con men, scams, and cultists. the only thing that would actually materially help someone like that is developing their own morals and critical thinking.

children are also more impressionable, and there's a lot of content that's not suitable for them, but that doesn't mean that content shouldn't exist. it just means that they should stick to spaces designed for them (which most social media sites, tumblr included, are not) or, if they're old enough to be responsible for their experience online, they, or a trusted adult in their lives, should block and filter out things that they aren't comfortable with.

which is what everyone on the internet should be doing. it's what i do, and it's made the internet a much more pleasant place to be. and it's why i sometimes worry for antis mental health, especially teenagers, because they're being told it's right and moral to seek out content that makes them uncomfortable and to engage with the people making it. and that's just. really bad. it's not good for the creators that they're harassing obviously, but it's also really bad for them! it's not healthy to seek out things that make you feel bad, and it's a terrible internet safety lesson to teach minors that it's okay for them to seek out and engage with people making adult content.

individual harassment and crusading is never going to succeed at removing dark content from the internet. it just isn't. at best you might get a small percentage of people who create that content to stop sharing it, at worst you're just going to make people stop tagging it, and either way, you're exposing yourself to things that make you feel bad, when you don't have to.

if you want to materially change the type of content you see, you can. the block button is your friend, use it liberally. same with content filtering and tag blocking.

#oops this got really long #cd.ask #proship #disk horse #tw pedophila mention #uhhh what to tag #tw shipping discourse #this doesn't even get into the antis that i've seen proudly professing that they care more about fictional characters than real people #because i don't know how to explain to someone that real humans matter more than cartoon characters #or how to avoid content on platforms other than tumblr bc frankly thats a lot of the reason i don't use them #i don't trust an algorithm #also im turning anon off after posting this so if you want to send me hate you cant be a coward about it #also be prepared to get blocked and ignored #the only reason i answered this person is bc they weren't being hostile

[nebulousmedic]

I feel like they can relate when it comes to that, at least. Ahh, I'm having many angst thoughts.

#fanart #sniper #spy #tf2 #team fortress 2 #team fortress fanart #tf2 spy #tf2 sniper #sniperspy #bloody suit #this ship does NOT happen in the same universe as SniperScout #And please do not assume that ever from my drawings #do not assume any specific ships are happening in the same universe actually #unless its explicitly stated as such #I dont consider myself an anti bc I hate censorship #that being said SpyScout is gross and I will never draw it #my art #tf2 fanart #sorry went on a little ramble there #anyway #you can consider this as non shippy if youd like #I dont mind either way

[pparkerized]

the scene where loki and mobius narrowly escape death together, wrapped in each others arms was SO gay. but of course they had to ruin it with loki immediately bringing up sylvie afterwards.

#loki writers clearly still on crack thinking a selfcest ship is the route to go here :/ #i used to like sylvie a lot but i feel like the writers kind of ruined her character. i don't necessarily hate her #like she's a genuinely interesting character when she's alone !! #marvel #mcu #loki #loki season 2 #loki spoilers #lokius #mobius m mobius #anti sylki

[lavndvrr]

Leo is so shippable like Rick could have put him with anyone but he chose to put Leo with Calypso FREAKING CALYPSO!!!!!

#leo valdez #hoo #pjo hoo toa #pjo #jason grace #heroes of olympus #valgrace #anti caleo #valangelo #perleo #and more #idk his other ships #but STILL #I HATE HER #CALYPSO IS THE WORST #IM GONNA MAKE LIKE AN EXPLAINATION POST SOON TOO

[epickiya722]

Imagine being an anti in 2024 still going "can we please stop shipping characters that hate each other" and use BAKUDEKU of all ships.

With everything we have seen with those two? Especially, all of what is happening in the current arc?! Yeah, "hate" is not the word. Sorry, but I wouldn't be like that with someone I genuinely hate. If you think that's "hate"... um...

#it's now laughable at this point #'they hate each other' #insert that john cena meme #like i really just thinks antis want to complain and/or seek attention #it's sad and i so mean this #it is so sad that antis will bash a ship and tag it with that ship name #find something else to do and i promise you you will feel a lot better #not being sarcastic at all #i really mean that shit #bnha #mha #boku no hero academia #my hero academia #midoriya izuku #bakugou katsuki #izuku midoriya #katsuki bakugou #bkdk #bakudeku #dekubaku #dkbk

[functionalbidisaster]

the scariest thing a mauraders fan can see…..

a mother with her child 😱😱😱🤯🤯

no but seriously you guys need to stop acting like harry and teddy don’t have mothers who they miss dearly and would do anything to be able to meet

also, lily and tonks would 100% be involved in raising them even if wolfstar and jegulus were a thing so PLEASE stop acting like they don’t exist and only using them to give your mlm ship a kid

so you can write fics where wolfstar raises teddy or jegulus raises harry, i don’t care, have fun, go crazy. just stop erasing lily and tonks completely because they WOULD be in their children’s life

also also, because i’m feeling extra petty here’s more mothers and their children for the drarry fans who do the same thing

😱😱 frightening i know

it’s like everyone forgets that mothers exist

(also i don’t support jkr or am really in the hp fandom, i just decided to scroll through some of the tags because i was bored) (also be thankful because i could of been a lot more petty if i wanted to be)(i also know not all fans do this but a lot do)

art credits:

tonks and teddy - rielles96 on instagram and tumblr

lily and harry - cableknit_remus on instagram and tumblr

ginny, lily luna, james sirius, and albus - beeyoungkah on instagram and tumblr

astoria and scorpius - upthehillart on instagram and tumblr

#just to clarify this is not hate to any ship. i genuinely don’t have much of a opinion on most of them #just please acknowledge the mothers #nymphadora tonks #lily evans #harry james potter #harry potter #teddy lupin #james potter #regulus black #jegulus #anti jegulus #jegulus dads #jegulus raising harry #sirius black #remus lupin #wolfstar #anti wolfstar #wolfstar dads #wolfstar raising teddy #anti drarry #astoria greengrass #ginny weasley #lily luna potter #james sirius potter #albus severus potter #scorpius malfoy #mauraders #anti marauders #drarry #draco malfoy

[commander-erwin-smith]

Why is izuocha ship for MHA feels forced and why does bakudeku makes more sense?

Izuocha is extremely forced while BakuDeku is gorgeous and amazing and it makes sense.

Izuocha isn't forced. Bakudeku has 0 romantic chemistry.

#ask #anonymous #bnha discourse #anti ship hate

[akadreamie]

Hey! Quick thing I wanted to put out there since it’s sorta like an account update.

From now on, my entire system will be sharing this blog with me. As the host, I’ve decided to do this so that everyone can have a chance to express themselves!

Everyone will sign off with their names. If there is no name sign off, then it’s just me ( Clay, the host ) posting.

Please remember to be respectful to everyone! Thank you!

#did #did system #system #osdd system #did osdd #proship #pro ship #pro shipper #proshipper #pro shipping #proshipping #anti anti #anti anti safe #proship safe #pro ship safe #important #anti ship hate #anti harassment #please read #anti ship harassment #important post #update #update post

[the-badger-mole]

What Being a Zutara Shipper Means for ME!! (not YOU...necessarily)

Where is this idea that Zutara shippers are monolith coming from? I'm soooo bored with people thinking that there's any sort of requirement to shipping this couple. A lot of Zutara shippers ADORE Aang and Mai. I'd go as far as to say most like at least one of them. And that's cool. That's cool...

Hating Aang and Mai is fun, though. They are problematic in different, but oddly similar ways. Picking that apart is a completely valid way to enjoy the fandom. It's not required. No one should have to hate them to enjoy Zutara, but if you do hate them, hate them as loud as you want. They are terrible characters. They have abusive tendencies. Aang, as a character, absolutely perpetuates the Nice Guy myth that as long as you're persistent enough and not a Chan, eventually the girl who's never shown any interest in you will fall for you. Because you're "tH3 r3@L H3r0OOooO!" It doesn't matter that you've violated your crush's consent. Twice. Or that you go on to flirt with anti-miscegenation on a whim and only don't go through with it because it would effect you personally. No biggie!

I know it's a bit harder to hate on Mai. After all, Zuko did have the audacity to talk to her, his girlfriend about his feelings. He was SO out of line for that. How DARE he want support from her? Doesn't he know emotions and human connection are like garlic to emotional vampires like Mai??? Still, hating Mai is fun, so I'll do it anyway. I know it's so quirky, edgy goth of her to threaten him with death if he ever broke up with her again and then go on to not let him know her own father is trying to assassinate him, but I'm not a fan. Sorry 🤷🏾‍♀️

You know what, though? I found my people, as few as we may be. And I did it without telling people how they should or shouldn't feel about any characters. It's a good thing I figured out how tagging and blocking works. 🙃

#atla #zutara #anti aang #anti kataang #anti mai #anti maiko #no one's REQUIRED to hate any character to ship other characters #but it's fun #feel however you want #don't let anyone shame you for your opinions about fictional chracters #a...rebuttal #because i HATE it when someone thinks they have the authority to tell someone how to enjoy fandom #go moralize about irl politics #fandom is for everyone #even haters

[quillkiller]

all im saying is ive never seen someone criticize those marylily or dorlily fanart/fics where they’re harrys mothers and theres no james in sight

#yall will force lily to be a mother bc of ’canon’ but yall dont care about james //responsibility// being a father ?? #yall are not the feminists you think you are #the absolute stupidest reason to be against jegulus fr #’how can you take harry from lily?’ ok and what about all the wlw lily ships where they raise harry ? #where are you THEN ??? asking how they can take harry from james ????? WHERE ARE YOU THEN #a woman will always be nothing but a mother #even before she even is one #*lia voice* ever since she’s been a daughter she’s been a prisoner #why is harry ONLY lilys goddamn responsibility #free lily from being a young mother fr.. #a dad is a babysitter and a mother has to lay down her life and freedom for the child #which is why yall dont actually care #you just want to be anti jegulus and loud about it #i dont even ship jegulus #ahfhsjsj #maybe reevaluate your stance on the heteronormative nuclear family dynamics and how they’re anti women #bc yall are just pushing the heteronormative agenda with this absolutely lacking take #ok anyway #interesting hill to die on from a girl who hates mlm ships having kids and doesnt ship jegulus #but thats a whole other thing #so!