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#anti loki tv show
zylice · 6 months
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SEROUSLY though…
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This man doesn’t look healthy. AT ALL!!
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n3bulazer · 10 months
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no he's not <3
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smolvenger · 7 months
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Back on me ranting about how much I hate Sylki bc I’m bitter, I had one thought that @bifrost-glitter touched on and I want to explore in depth-
What if, for the Loki and Sylvie pairing, we switched the genders?
What if it was a female protagonist who ran into a badass male warrior with a Tragic (tm) past?
imagine the woman falling head over heels for a badass male warrior she knew for 12 hours and dedicating herself to him and gushing over him…defending his every action.
Imagine the man says harsh things. Doesn’t really listen to her. Doesn’t acknowledge when she is kind to him. And the woman gushing about how tragic he is and how she will fight for and do anything for him. And when they do fight, she is shown as incompetent and he is so much stronger and better and she is just there to go “wow!”
And when they are reunited, he shows no remorse and won’t listen to her…nly for him to manipulate her feelings, make fun of her, call her names, belittle her, be stronger than her. Kiss her briefly to distract her all while she keeps begging him and acting all she wants is his happiness…and he ultimately betrays her for his own gain. And she still holds no anger and easily forgives him and searches the world for him?
If that was the case, there would be whole articles in newspapers about it being toxic and a bad example for young people, especially young girls, to watch to expect for a romantic relationship. The fandom and watchers would be all “omg! Poor little meow meow! Dump his ass! You deserve better than him, queen! He doesn’t deserve you! He is such trash!! I want to snuggle her in a blankie and tell her everything will be okay!”
But…*sigh* because it’s a woman abusing a man, it’s okay. It’s a “girlboss and malewife” dynamic and it’s romantic and Empowering (tm). (Also, watch The Gilded Age for The Russell’s for an example of a Girlboss and Malewife romantic relationship that is both healthy and well written while still engaging). Because women are totally not capable of being abusive or doing anything bad, right?
*sigh*
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cosmoboxes · 6 months
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can u post.......... the loki show userbox............ that u made.......... so i can rb it....
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[img id: a green userbox with an image of Loki in it. The text beside it reads "this user HATES the Loki TV show!" /end id.]
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bylertruth3r · 5 months
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IJBOL THEY BOTH HATE THAT SELF-CEST SHIP
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generating-pseudonym · 6 months
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Like if you don't ship Lokius
I'm curious if there is actually anyone who doesn't ship them
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levi-txliesiin · 7 months
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loki and mobius r such good characters it's such a shame they belong to a franchise growing more and more shit with every new release
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dani-luminae · 9 months
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I mean I'd argue they already undid all that considering they killed him then dedicated 40 minutes to speedrunning that entire character evolution/redemption in the first ep of his namesake series...
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iamnmbr3 · 1 year
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yummygender · 10 months
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Every time I see Sylvie, I wanna puke.
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zylice · 6 months
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Loki may have become a ‘better person’ but he literally had the living HELL beat out of him in order to do so. I don’t want to see a character tortured into SUBMISSION by his kidnappers and HUMILIATED in order for him to be redeemed let alone constantly ABUSED throughout the process of ‘growing!’ Thor didn’t get abused, tortured, belittled and humiliated during his ‘redemption arc’ so why does Loki?! 😢💔
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stromuprisahat · 5 months
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Just wanna say FINALLY SOMEBODY ELSE WHO HATES LOKIUS AND SYLKI
For Sylki is obvious: toxic, toxic and they're basically the same person and I can't stand Sylvie (and no I'm not a man who hates women. I'm a woman too and I find her character annoying and useless to the story. You'll see how her character is going to be even more annoying at Season 2)
For Lokius, I felt I was the only person that didn't ship them. In the first episode you can smell the toxicity a mile away. Mobius is gaslighting him as FUCK. And the "Kill me like you killed your mother?" Bro? Wtf? 💀
I wouldn't say hate, that would require more emotional involvement on my part. Despise with a drop of loathing, if this is really supposed to be "it" for Loki.
I was surprised to find out I don't mind Sylvie in Lamentis, or even the episode after that. What ruined it was- ironically- episode with other Lokis. They pushed her ✨specialness✨ so hard! And then that fucking romance, when Sylki worked so well as How-the-fuck-would-you-call-being-friends-through-sharing-your-trauma-with-your-alternative-self?!
Suddenly Mobius is all "Aww, you're in looove!", which at that point sounds more like a 5 y/o yelling at another one, who doesn't want to be friends with him, because he's already friends with some girl! And as if that made it so, Loki goes from distrusting Sylvie through empathy to acting all subservient, when she's concerned?! WTF?!
I know he's mentally fucked up, and his stay with TVA certainly didn't help him, but how?!
(There's also the issue of Sylvie as a character. I might not be some hardcore MARVEL fan, but even I know there's a blond female Asgardian, called Enchantress, who has a history with Loki, so why would you take her attributes to create OC version of Loki, that refuses to even call herself Loki?!)
Mobius' only possible excuse is his own history with TVA. How far did their mindfuck reach? Is that why he doesn't seem to understand boundaries, and requires treatment he, himself isn't willing to offer Loki? Is that why he's preaching about friendship, while sending his alleged bad friend to torture?
If we don't put effort into finding excuses, he's just a dick. He's fully aware this isn't THE Loki, yet he's treating him as if the main timeline's deeds were his doing. Kinda ironic, when you relize this Loki is in TVA for NOT following the script, but apparently Mobius can have it both ways.
As for their relationship- Mobius is backed by a huge organization, while Loki's constantly reminded he can be killed as soon as they don't need him anymore. He has nothing, but Mobius' mercy to work with, and that's rather obviously conditional. Those are supposed to be foundations for a non-abusive relationship?!
Mobius uses his assets to mentally torture Loki, gaslights the hell out of him and manipulates him, while Loki's mostly defensive. There's zero effort to change anything about it, until Mobius starts to doubt TVA, and then he's fighting for himself. He's not taking down the organization that made him hurt his friend, he's taking down an organization that lied to him and others like him.
Loki's just giving, forgiving and forgetting, because he's a horrible, arrogant, selfish asshole, who never changes (Although another question is, when exectly was he so bad to need to change so much?).
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smolvenger · 7 months
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Loki TV Show Writers from episode 1.3 onwards: isn’t Sylvie the BEST!?!? Isn’t she a GIRLBOSS??!?!? Isn’t she PERFECT??!?!? Don’t you just love her??? You WILL love her! Love her!!!!
Me:
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janetsnakehole02 · 2 years
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LOKI NATION WE FINALLY HAVE A WIN
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brsb4hls · 7 months
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Adding to the Loki 2 reactions (with spoilers), slightly critical:
*I still like the aesthetic, the set design is great
*trying to figure out if Loki does not quite feel like Loki, because he actually is out of character or because he's in a completely different environment. I mean, he basically went from period piece-like drama and fantasy to SciFi
Plus he actually gets to built connections with other people here (outside of his family), because the show makes room for it, so that's kinda new. And has to be acted out somehow.
*Regarding those connections, I still feel Loki is a bit too emotional and touchy. Might be on purpose to make him more relatable.
(The "she'll be fine" comment after the car crash though felt Loki-ish)
He is more human in the TVA, which is connected to him not having access to his powers there.
I don't have much hope, but it would be neat to see a shift in his and Mobius' interactions once he gets to use his powers more again.
*On Mobius. Intriguing character, still don't completely buy into the buddy vibe. Mobius does care about Loki in a way and there might have been time to built somewhat of a friendship (I don't know, how much time actually passed in season 1).
But imo Mobius still treats Loki a bit like an asset. Their interactions in 2x1 are more about managing. Mobius maneuvers Loki around to keep him out of an unclear situation and in order to get information. He also needs Loki. As an Loki expert Mobius is fully aware how capable and valuable for a fight Loki is. Loki also knows more about what's happening to the time line, so Mobius has to keep him stable and work with him.
I still don't feel he takes him completely seriously. It all seems a bit patronizing.
Otoh Mobius takes a great risk to keep Loki. Might make sense given the overall situation, but is a bit inconsistent.
They should not have forced the buddy comedy imo. I would have enjoyed enemies reluctantly working together way more.
But Loki needs a friend so I take what I can get I guess. And at least it's Owen Wilson.
(I still would love to see Mobius nearly shitting himself over a display of Loki's true power. He is way to nonchalant, which comes with his position and experience of course, but well...)
*Yeah yeah, we all love OB, that's a given
*does time travel in the MCU work like this? Idc, it was funny. The simultaneous conversation with past and present OB was a nice touch, funny and well done.
*was the time slip a one ep kinda deal? Trailer indicates it wasn't. We'll see.
*Hunter B15 being the moral compass, important.
*That TVA council seemed a bit all over the place. What's the course of action apart from finding Sylvie? But yay, Liz Carr.
*So Sylvie thinks Loki's dead-dead? Makes sense, that she would try to built an actual life after everything. The post credit scene was a bit anvil on the head, but I get it in regards to Sylvie's journey.
Btw my guess is Loki will make a sacrifice in the end, but that will probably be leaving Sylvie and Mobius behind so they can have an actual life.
And Loki will be alone again.
It would fit. It would be dramatic enough, but Disney would still keep the character alive just in case. Loki's a cash cow after all.
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