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sophieseals · 2 years

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Whoever made that thunderbolts line up needs locking away

#they may has well have called it B avengers #why is bucky on the team in the first place #isn’t he an avenger?#like bucky has gone through a full ass arc #where’s Justin hammer?#where’s abomination?#where’s Zemo!?#thunderbolts #mcu fandom #anti mcu #I thought this was supposed to be a team of villains not barely grey characters #like I would’ve preferred if they called it like black widow two #at least then it would’ve made sense

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5ummit · 1 year

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The Falcon and the Winter Soldier | 1.03 “Power Broker”

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amarriageoftrueminds · 11 months

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maybe it's bc I grew up seeing (and can still see from the outside) how cis men play/joke/fake gayness as a display of domination but yet all somehow knew to avoid actual gayness like the plague (bc the it's so real how cishets manage to know what we are b4 we ourselves do) but I see that exact same "locker room" idea of playing gayness for laughs (usually by violating of sexual boundaries) + treating actual gay love like an unmentionable replicated by the cishets making media

like, look at marvel's iron man thor and gotg movies littered with writing that might nominally be considered "gay" jokes abt men being placed in sexual situations each other (again, often by laughing at the idea of sexual assault/nonconsensual sexualization) but cishet norms don't consider this gay in any real sense. it's the "accepted" way of portraying "gayness" in a way that signals to the audience that it's there to poke fun at the characters and knock 'em down a peg for comedy

This is part of why I rolled my eyes at ppl claiming queerbait at tfatws (completely not knowing what the bait part of the word means). Those "gay" moments in that show were the most classical homophobic dudebro locker room comedy that I've grown to recognize as an extension of the homophobic rough housing culture growing up among cishet boys. Every "moment" was just a Gunn-esque laugh at the male characters being degraded by being put in a position that seems gay against their consent, either by literally falling/rolling into it, by purposeful taunting by a malicious (and shoehorned) character, or literally by the force of the state(state as in governing body). it's meant to be funny in that the cishet culture the comedy comes from dictates that violating men's boundaries with a superficially "homo" act is a way to enforce hierarchy within the group. the jokes come from homophobia (which is why the creators were baffled at the idea of shipping in that show, they recognize the difference between real gayness and their homophobic lockerroom-culture jokes)

This is also why we never see anything even remotely like that between Bucky and Steve, they have genuine love for one another, the same cishet "gay" rough housing culture recognizes that between them it wouldn't be a joke, it'd be actually gay, so they avoided it like the plague. That's why we hardly ever see Bucky and Steve's canon platonic friendship portrayed, it holds actual love for one another that can't be played off by stoicism or homophobic lockerroom-style comedy. They can't do Gunnisms to make it a haha hehe, so the marvel franchise opts to not show the best friends inseparable from playground to battlefield as actual friends. Actual factual, sincere, earnest friendship between men is considered to approximate to gayness by comic book dudebro culture, so they don't show it and then blame gay ppl for "ruining" the platonic make friendships that they were too scared to show because anything more than hooking up with a bunch of interchanging women and meeting up one a year at a bar to talk about the women they've hooked up with is considered to gay by cishet men who still haven't grown out of that homophobic (& misogynistic) locker room culture.

Anon you're so right, and this is also how Tony can be cracking jokes about holding Rhodey's dick in the Avengers movie and no one in the execs room has a gay panic about needing to separate them!

Given that it also had Sharon mocking Bucky for being 'Mr America' tfatws especially seemed to revel in these nasty little homophobic digs. 😥

#long post #tfawts critical #stucky meta #mcu critical #mcu meta #steve meta #bucky meta #toAyourQ #dat's me #hey nonny #stucky #bucky barnes #written like a supernatural episode #it's like they tried to head off shipping sam/bucky at the pass...#...by making them do the thinly-veiled homophobia dudebro cliches #especially in contrast to the classic 'predatory-camp-gay-disney-villain' style zemo #who's all about the deep emotional talks and this is framed as intrusive and creepy and hannibal lectery #also there was that weird mackie quote...#where it seemed like he was being jockeyed into saying sth critical of gay shipping and then had to back-pedal..#and sth similar from sebstan more recently?? 🤔#ftatws onward really seems like a cack-handed attempt to de-gay bucky in particular...#just in time to shove him up against a bunch of women in thunderbolts presumably?? 😞#meta #steve rogers #tl;dr: they're so concerned with avoiding seeming gay they accidentally make everything seem hella gay #like it comes full circle back around to gay...#where steve and bucky's very avoidance of everything connoting typical male friendship shown everywhere else...#ends up just emphasising how very much NOT JUST FRIENDS they are #is it just me??#anon is SO SO fucking right

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hobbit-in-space · 3 months

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the coffee shop AU continues

#tva loki #loki laufeyson #loki #fanart #loki fanart #an AU !!#helmut zemo #part of the au where mobius works at a coffee shop loki is a singer and zemo is a model

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wenellyb · 2 years

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Scenes that turned average Marvel movies into masterpieces

3. Sam Wilson receiving the shield and being reveal to be the next Captain America

2. T’Challa getting ready to kill Zemo to avenge his father, but then changing his mind after hearing Zemo’s story and even keeping him from killing himself so he could face the consequences of his actions.

1. Stephen “it’s the only way” Strange figuring out that there might actually be another way and telling America to trust herself and her power, only for America to defeat Wanda in the most powerful way, by giving her what she always wanted and showing her how harmful he actions had been.

It doesn’t happen in all MCU movies, but sometimes we get a scene that is so great that it takes the movie to a whole other level. Marvel movies are usually mainstream movies, with a light plot, some actions scenes, some humor, and are manufactured in order to be liked by the largest audience. I think a lot of people get disappointed because they have expectations that are too high, when these movies are made to attract everyone even the casual watcher.

But there are scenes like these that change the tone of the movie, give depth and give a little something that makes the movie great in the end.

When I think about Avengers: Endgame, I don’t remember the messy plot, or the confusing timeline, I remember how the last scene was a pivotal moment for the MCU. I remember all the emotions I felt when I first saw Sam Wilson holding the shield.

When I think about Captain America:Civil War, I don’t remember the fights or the whole debate around the accords. I remember one of the most powerful and emotional scenes in the MCU, where T’Challa lets go of his desire of revenge because he saw what being consumed by vengeance could do to a man, when hearing Zemo talk about how he lost his father, his wife and his son in Sokovia.

And when I’ll think about Doctor Strange, I won’t remember a cute movie about a sorcerer adopting a teenager with superpowers and doing everything he can to protect her fro a Carrie/The Ring Crossover witch. I’ll remember America discovering her own strength and using it to defeat Wanda in the smartest way ever. That scene had everything, it had drama, plot twist, feelings, emotions, it was to perfect way to end the movie and it made me feel all kind of things.

#wanda maximoff #america chavez #avengers endgame #sam wilson #steve rogers #t'challa #helmut zemo #CACW #mom spoilers #doctor strange spoilers #doctor strange #doctor strange in the multiverse of madness #These scenes really made me pause and go: “oh wow”#I didn’t include it because the FATWS was not average and not a movie either but the scene where Isaiah Bradley talks about #what he went through contributed in making the show a masterpiece

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babycupart · 4 months

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do NOT watch a m*rvel show just to see an actor, next thing you know you’re writing fic in your head to compensate for the lack of characterization and complete sterilization of their sexuality

#baron zemo/bucky barnes sugar daddy scenario fic where is it #canonlogically zemo fucks because he had a wife and kid but bucky barnes??? i don’t think they can even mention him being in a relationship

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six-demon-bag · 1 year

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i need more of this look stat

#please 🥵#colonel zemo #idk where this is from #but it’s in my brain now #zemo #daniel brühl

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illicien · 11 months

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Me, writing Zemo:

"Okay I'm gonna just use Croatian as a stand-in for Sokovian since they seem to be in the same language group but also it isn't written in Cyrillic, and also I have loose familiarity with the language."

Result:

Zemo calling Bucky "srećo" and refusing to tell him what it means until he can pronounce it.

Good luck getting your tongue around that ć so that you can figure it out, Bucky. Also, apparently I just really enjoy writing posh little tea drinking sluts so. Hey. Maybe there'll be WinterBaron from me in the future. Who knows?

#winterbaron #zemo #language fun #yes full trash is me #Yes this is also only for stand-in stuff because there seems to be some confusion regarding WHERE Sokovia is exactly #just... in the Balkans somewhere

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reveriix · 4 months

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Zemo: we dated briefly.

Loki: you dated?!

Mobius: Yes, like he said briefly.

Zemo: a year to be exact.

Loki: a year!? Mobius ?!

#mobius m mobius #loki s2 #baron zemo #helmut zemo #loki laufeyson #au where mobius and zemo are exes #✨ ramblings

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bisexualbuckleyy · 1 year

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it’s so funny to me that zemo is all like “i don’t suppose either of you bothered visiting the memorial?” to bucky and sam like bestie neither of them were even there they had literally nothing to do with that

#yes i’m rewatching falcon and the winter soldier and also watching the boys and i can do two things #i’m also watching ted lasso with two of my roommates #and watching merlin with one of my roommates #i watch a lot of things #but yeah like i get where he’s coming from but it was not their fault #also because it bears repeating: FUCK john walker #god i hate that bitch so much #the falcon and the winter soldier #fatws #fatws series #tfatws #sam wilson #bucky barnes #helmut zemo

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fandom-official · 2 years

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Something was missing when they revealed Thunderbolts at D23...

Where's Zemo?

#baron zemo #zemo #helmut zemo #marvel #mcu #thunderbolts #where's waldo #movies #tv #villains #superheroes #marvel fan #marvel fandom #fandom #fandoms

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buthearmeouttho · 7 months

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If I was part of the mcu (pt. 4)

Me: kay’ so where is the area they’re keeping Bucky in?

Steve: …

Me: I’m NoT gOiNg To Do AnYtHiNg I jUsT nEeD tO kNoW sO i CaN aVoId It WhIlE i LoOk FoR nAt

Steve: then why couldn’t you just ask where Nat is?

Me: can you look me in the eyes and tell me I won’t get distracted by seeing some random ant that somehow got inside.

Steve:

Sharon: Yeah *tells where the cell is*

Me: great.

Me, two minutes later: *on the security footage in the room with Zemo and Bucky*

Me: How the hell did I get down here?

#If I was part of the mcu #funny #random #incorrect marvel quotes #I actually do not know how I got down there #Want a second part of where this goes?#I got grounded later btw #Also I punched Zemo

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lesbiradshaw · 1 year

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you can dislike/criticize peggy carter without ignoring or trivializing the fact that red skull, john walker, baron zemo, and brock rumlow are all canonical white supremacist characters btw. like. both of these things can happen at the same time.

#i saw someone WHITE partaking in the ‘the villain/REAL villain’ trend on twt the other day w red skull vs peggy #and they were like ‘one is an evil nazi and the other is red skull’ MIND YOU RED SKULL IS LITERALLY THE LEADER OF NAZI TROOPS #im very aware of the criticism surrounding peggy’s character inspo and the stuff with zemo and those conversations should be had #but they can be had without acting like these other characters are innocent or NOT canonically white supremacists? lol #seeing an awful lot of people make j walker into the new rumlow insert where they yassify him to be in love w bucky to make steve jealous #and its like. Okay. again: white supremacists and in brocks case active abuser of bucky’s autonomy #and dont even get me started on the fruity zemo hcs like you are just WEIRDOS #IDGAF THAT THEY ARE FICTIONAL! you are engaging in media that was created to combat/expose the evils of white supremacy yet you are acting +#like it doesnt exist unless you are using it to bash peggy #and by doing so you are trivializing the very real criticism surrounding her character????#like. just very sick of white people using this shit as a tool to further their own agenda as long as its useful to their hcs #and ignoring it at all other times.#just a bunch of funky losers.#you cannot be a captain america fan and pretend that white supremacists are… Not white supremacists.

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wenellyb · 2 years

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