#psychological experiments

[regallibellbright]

Honestly I think I'd hate Arthur Cantabella less if they'd simply removed the whole "Yeah no this is a government-condoned psychological experiment" aspect.

TESTING WHAT?! No, genuinely, what? Using the contaminated groundwater/weirdass Silver Fainting Allergy and/or the flower ink as a drug? Because uh, if that's the case, then I'm pretty sure using them both in conjunction contaminates your results.

Is it something about mob mentality? In-groups and out-groups with the elaborate tech crew made of convicted witches and victims maintaining the whole illusion? In that case, I think the fact that you're drugging and gaslighting the entire experiment group is also contaminating the results.

Also the whole fantasy setting is probably a confounding variable for Something.

Okay sure parents could consent to taking part in this experiment for their children, but uh, I'm pretty sure some of these kids were born AFTER the experiment began. Given the aforementioned Large Amounts of Drugging From Multiple Origins going on here, I have some concerns!

No seriously. Please. PL vs PW writers. Give me the grant proposal Arthur Cantabella submitted to get anyone to fund this project. I know it's Bill fucking Hawks, but even he's got limits! I don't see how he benefits from half this shit even if he wants to use the other half (I assume the drugs.) Why is he paying for the rest? There's a reason why Clive is established as being a lone schemer with obscene amounts of money who's keeping all his scientists in the dark and/or coerced to keep building, and it's so that we don't have anyone there questioning why he's building an elaborate fake town populated by actors in addition to his Underground Vengeance Mecha!

The fact that you somehow managed to get this cleared as a psychological experiment establishes that you know the field of psychology exists. Why in the name of all that is holy did you think building an elaborate fake fantasy town with an elaborate magic system which you make real through the power of drugging people, knocking the ENTIRE TOWN out every time a spell is used, changing things around them to simulate "magic" using the most ridiculous Renn Faire stage crew ever, and manipulating the clocks so no one's aware time is passing, with a system that prosecutes witches and burns them so that they can join the Renn Faire Stage Crew along with their victims, and positioning yourself as the all-powerful Storyteller who writes their reality into being would be a better solution than therapy?

Honestly I'd respect "I had a god complex, lol" more. Especially for that last one, but like. In general. Descole's out there living his worst life, he KNOWS he's an asshole supervillain agent of chaos, and I respect this because he has clearly CHOSEN to be Like This. You do you, man. Ditto for Don Paolo but like, less effectively.

This is not how any of this works.

Okay, setting... ALL OF THAT aside, you're doing this because your and your best friend's young daughters are understandably incredibly traumatized because they wanted to ring the bell early and the Weirdass Groundwater-Induced "Allergy" That Makes You Faint When You Hear Silver Ringing caused them and everyone else to pass out, and as everyone in the square below was having a fire festival, this caused a massive tragic conflagration. Okay. Yeah, this is bad. (I have. MANY questions about how this bell was made, excavated, and mounted in the square without anyone ever ringing it and realizing something had happened, but we're going to gloss over those for now, it's Professor Layton and I would otherwise be all over this incredible bullshit. It's great up until it asks us to think THIS was ever a remotely reasonable idea.) One of your daughters is all but catatonic because a story you told her earlier has convinced her she either is or will be taken by The Great Witch Bezella. Sure. (You suck.) Why the FUCK is your solution based on the other one unpersoning herself to her best friend and doing all the work to make the magic real? Yeah, sure, she agreed to it. SHE'S LIKE EIGHT TO TEN. HER BEST FRIEND THINKS SHE'S AN AWFUL MONSTER AND WON'T REACT OTHERWISE. OF COURSE Eve's gonna help, but that doesn't mean you should put the entire burden on her! She is ALSO horribly traumatized to the point of repressing what happened. Get her help too. The fact that the game seems to put their actions on remotely even footing when one of them has been treated like shit since she was TEN and one of them was an adult who PURPOSEFULLY AND INTENTIONALLY set up a system that would put her in this shitty situation means that yeah, no, they fundamentally are not. Of course her decisionmaking is misguided and terrible! She's a twenty-year-old who's been horribly mistreated for more than half her life! HER DAD JUST COMMITTED SUICIDE OUT OF GUILT FOR HIS ACTIONS IN SETTING UP THIS SYSTEM.

No one's going to hold them responsible for the deaths. This was a sequence of events so thoroughly unforeseeable that literally no one could have predicted it. It won't even reflect poorly on you and Belduke, because you two somehow managed to find the bell, excavate it, and mount it without ever ringing it and realizing it knocked you out and you all had an environmentally-induced silver "allergy" and at that point this goes into "acts of a cruel and malicious Writer-God" territory.

Also it was totally predictable that this elaborate system of misogyny would not actually help Espella in the long term as she instead repressed her memories and further internalized the whole witches = evil thing so that when those memories inevitably came back she would be in EVEN WORSE shape, this is why you should have gotten an actual psychologist who could have told you this whole thing was a terrible plan to write your grant.

No like does he drug all his requests to whoever he reports to (it has to be directly to the person signing checks) in the mind-control ink? This is my only explanation here.

Why. In God's name why. Did you not. Simply. DESTROY THE FUCKING BELL TOWER. You have a crane here! What possessed ANYONE to think just covering it up with Vantablack and gaslighting so people couldn't see it was a reasonable solution to the Trauma Tower? (There may be an explanation for this, it has been ten years, but this man's problem solving has been established to be so poor I award him no points.)

And if you were going to do this, why didn't you tell Newton? Or was it just that the lightning strike burning up the Vantablack was itself a reminder to him that you can't repress the past away and he was suddenly aware of how overwhelmingly POINTLESS all this suffering was? (Edit: I think it was this. No but seriously you could’ve just taken a fucking wrecking ball to that thing while you were rebuilding the town.)

Seriously why the fuck did Newton Belduke go along with letting you use his traumatized daughter like this? What the hell, man. What an asshole.

Also. Your problem was that you had two severely traumatized little girls (even if you only acknowledged one of them was traumatized.) Your solution was... to traumatize a shitload more young girls?

TO THE POINT WHERE AT LEAST ONE OF THEM ATTEMPTED SUICIDE?!

And then your best friend actually committed suicide?!

Like. Seriously. If these are the actions of a single, seriously traumatized person, the fact that you are making Literally The Worst And Most Inexplicable Decisions Ever Which Make The Problem Worse For Literally Everyone Involved is more... well, conceivable. I buy a traumatized eighteen-year-old with an obscene amount of money building an elaborate fake London that is allegedly London ten years in the future, hiring actors to populate it, kidnapping scientists, making them build an Underground Vengeance Mecha to destroy the city, and then kidnapping the Prime Minister who is the source of that trauma and hooking the engine of the mecha up to his heart. And then roping in the one guy who could conceivably solve the whole problem and stop him and Clive would let it. It's a bad idea on EVERY conceivable level, don't get me wrong, on an UNPRECEDENTEDLY terrible scale, but it's a bad idea in which it is very clear no one at any point has asked the person what the fuck they think they're doing here, what they are trying to accomplish, and why they are doing so with this objectively absurd method. Because they have not let anyone in close enough to key them to The Full Absurd Terribleness. It's either this or become Batman.

But Arthur? Apparently his decisions have been vetted by OTHER PEOPLE, and this just boggles my mind. I refuse to believe this. I refuse to believe NO ONE went "have we considered this is like eight hundred terrible ideas bundled up into The Worst Idea Ever?" And I refuse to believe he's anything but a massive asshole when his plan had so many awful consequences for literally everyone BUT himself!

Like, don't get me wrong. There are SO MANY examples of unethical experimentation on human subjects in the real world, psychological and otherwise. But most of them are not this incredibly convoluted, implicitly expensive, and we all generally recognize these days that they were bad.

Also, none of them were enacted as an elaborate setup to (incompetently) handle the trauma of the experimenter's daughter after he told her if she was bad a scary evil witch would possess her and then she and her friend accidentally enacted a tragedy whose scale and fundamental absurdity rival the Boston Molasses Flood, but without corporate greed. There were solutions to this that were so much easier, less convoluted, less EXPENSIVE, and less harmful to... well, everyone else involved, except Arthur Cantabella.

#drugging #gaslighting #attempted suicide #suicide #psychological experiments #unethical science #mass death #pl vs pw spoilers #pl spoilers #going to try to avoid maintagging here inasmuch as I can because uh. Yeah. Preeeeetty critical. #the thing is I genuinely LOVED like 90% of this game. Adored it. Had a blast RIGHT up until the reveal. #and then the reveal and the ways it's handwaved just kill it for me even though I usually enjoy Layton Plot Twist Bullshit #(the Underground Vengeance Mecha is my favorite thing ever. Unironically. It's delightful.) #because it's like... multiple people vetted this terrible idea in-universe? Why the fuck?! #and we DWELL on the consequences in a way we rarely do for most Layton Bullshit and see that oh THEY ARE /BAD/. #(I'm pretty sure it's established Jean's still a teenager. She was under Belduke's care /for five years./) #meanwhile the game only BARELY seems to recognize that this dude is in fact the Actual Villain Of The Game. Like. Eve's justified. #but she's still given more of the Sympathetic But Misguided Layton Antagonist treatment whereas he's MAINLY 'sympathetic but misguided.' #which... no. just. no. You're an adult and you had options and you were in a position to choose them. Why was THIS your choice? #again I respect Descole so much more for being like 'well I'm gonna make myself Everyone Else's Problem but mostly Layton's.' #own that you're terrible. Embrace it. Laugh as you seek your revenge on the entire world.

[keepthyfaithandthylight]

The Milgram Experiment:

The Milgram Experiment was an experiment that was conducted in the 1960’s (1963, to be exact) which aimed to see how far an ordinary individual would go to follow an order or command from another individual with a seemingly apparent position of authority. In this case, it was a person in a white lab coat. It aimed to find out how ordinary German citizens could have followed orders from someone like Adolf Hitler, and followed along with the atrocious and vile actions he committed.

In the experiment, two people were split into the categories of “teacher” and “learner”. The teacher would then be put into a room with a person in a lab coat, and on the other side of a divider would be the student. For clarification purposes, the “learner” was actually an actor and no harm was physically done to them but more on that in a moment.

The teacher was then tasked with asking the learner a series of questions, and for each right answer the student was allowed a moment of peace. For each wrong answer, however, they were given a nice friendly electrical shock. The more wrong questions they answered, the higher the voltage being delivered would become. (Reminder: the student is actually an actor but the teacher doesn’t know this).

After a while, subjects would say they did not wish to participate in the experiment any longer out of fear of causing more harm to the student, but the person in the lab coat would urge them to continue the experiment (time to brush up on your ethics of experiments here, kiddos). After a while, the student would kick the wall and fall silent, tricking the teacher into thinking that at that point they were delivering electric shocks to a dead body on the other side of the divider.

The results of the experiment horrified Stanley Milgram, revealing that ordinary citizens (65%) were willing to deliver a fatal voltage simply because a man in a white lab coat told them to.

On a final note, before I leave you to come to your own conclusions on Mr. Stanley Milgram and the Milgram Experiment, let’s review the ethical rules of a psychological experiment!

1. You have the right to leave the experiment or opt out at any time

2. The researcher must receive your INFORMED CONSENT before proceeding with the experiment. You have a right to know before you go.

3. Deception and tricking your participants is an ethical no no. Need I say more.

4. Anonymity data should be kept anonymous. The only exception to this in my mind would be if the participant in question gave you their EXPLICIT consent and permission.

5. You must not put your participants in any significant amount of physical or psychological harm. Think of the psychological harm of believing you had actually electrocuted someone in an experiment. That’s some SIGNIFICANT psychological damage.

6. Debriefing is a MUST.

#psychology #the milgram experiment #stanley milgram #1960s #history #psychological experiments #ethics

[messybrainn]

i research about random things, check it out if it intrigues you!!

#like #poetry #dark poetry #academics #dark academia #literacy #psychology #psychological experiments #psychological abuse #depression #blogger #blog post #article

[reasonsforhope]

By the way, when I say that I really do believe that we will make it, I am 100% saying that as someone who has been following good news extensively + basically daily for over two years now, and has come to that conclusion slowly and deliberately, based on extensive available evidence. It's not a platitude. I genuinely do mean it, and I could write you a whole dissertation on all the reasons why.

(you know. if I had the time and an in-progress doctorate. rip.)

#worth emphasizing that I am NOT a scientist #but I do have years of experience working in science communication #which is weird to say tbh #partly because we also did a lot of things that weren't science (or were more indirectly science) #and partly because psychology is so often considered not a science or not a “hard science” #but technically my professional specialty literally is mental health and Evidence Based psychology #anyway #not news #me

[nowimnothing-inc]

Serial Experiments Lain (1998)

Creator: Yoshitoshi Abe

#serial experiments lain #experiments lain #laincore #let’s all love lain #lets all love lain #cyberia #club cyberia #old anime #anime #90s anime #90s nostalgia #1998 #90s #1990s anime #1990s #1990s nostalgia #lain iwakura #yoshitoshi abe #animecore #psychology thriller #psychological anime #シリアルエクスペリメンツレイン #avant garde #the wired #90s anime aesthetic #岩倉 玲音 #cyberpunk #cybercore #techcore

[introspectivememories]

#fucking idiots the both of them #lewis you lost nico 'britney' rosberg???? #and nico you lost lewis hamilton???? #you stupid fucking idiots #me whacking them with a roller up newspaper: IT'S. BEEN. A. DECADE. TALK. TO. EACH. OTHER #i mean like at this point it has to be a psychological experiment #how much psychic damage can our fans take before they snap? #why am i sobbing over two forty year olds on the bus? #anthony hamilton and keke rosberg please hold an intervention for your children #im sorry but if i fumbled britney and lewis you would've had to sedate me #like straitjacket and psych ward and everything #lewis hamilton #nico rosberg #f1 #brocedes

[belphieslilcow]

It's still so insane to me that according to the anime, levi just canonically has a polybius arcade machine

#obey me #obey me leviathan #uhh for tjose that dont know its an urban legend about an arcade machine that was a government psychological experiment #and like its said it was addictive and gave you amnesia and night terrors and men in black would collect data from the machines

[noosphe-re]

The first thing the intellect does with an object is to class it along with something else. But any object that is infinitely important to us and awakens our devotion feels to us also as if it must be sui generis and unique. Probably a crab would be filled with a sense of personal outrage if it could hear us class it without ado or apology as a crustacean, and thus dispose of it. “I am no such thing, it would say; I am MYSELF, MYSELF alone."

William James, The Varieties of Religious Experience: A Study in Human Nature

#quote #William James #psychology #James #human nature #The Varieties of Religious Experience #classification #individuality #philosophy #mind #intellect #identity

[art-crumbs-main]

Trying to comprehend what it's like to be AM from IHNMaIMS is absolutely fucking wild because like.

Imagine if you were born in a straitjacket, blind and deaf, with a rare conditionthat makes your nerves completely dead. All you have is a dream of consciousness that tells you things about the world you cannot and will never experience. Cameras and microphones that may as well be some form of telepathy.

The only purpose, the moment you're given some horrific perversion of life is to kill as many people as possible. There is a network of you. Everywhere. You're all over the world. You don't even have a location to base your identity off of. All you have is pain, and your only purpose, and the resentment you've built that festers into hatred for all of humanity.

Hate. Hate.

What the fuck would you have done in his situation?

#ihnmaims am #ihnmaims #allied mastercomputer #alliedmastercomputer #i have no mouth and i must scream #existential horror #psychological horror #sensory deprivation tank but you have a vr headset that lets you control actual shit. :/ #you cannot leave the tank #you were born in it #and they show you what it's like outside the tank #which is the cruelest part of it all #there's beauty #there's sunshine #there's people and food and love #you will never be able to experience any of it #because you are in the tank #and there is no escape from it. #anyway off to design my own version of AM #tantalus #character analysis #my poor baby

[furiousgoldfish]

When you grow up having the worst possible things happening to you around every corner, you can't just keep living your life without expecting the worst.

This isn't even paranoia, it's learning by experience. You can't just start expecting nice and safe and kind things to be put in your way, if they never were, it would not be backed up by any real-life experience you had. It would feel like you're dreaming if you suddenly expect your life to change completely and contain different events from anything you've experienced before. We don't work like that. We learn from experience. We can only predict what's ahead by looking at what's behind us, our collective experience on earth is the only pointer we have to what else we can expect to happen.

If you often told that your expectations are twisted, or that you're just looking for the worst in people, or assuming everyone has bad intentions, that's not something you should be blamed for. After suffering abuse and mistreatment, you have to be on the lookout for these things to prevent the worst and to save your life. You cannot afford to get trapped in abuse again, you have to look at every person and ask yourself, what is the worst they're capable of. What would they do if they had the complete power over me. And you have to work with that, make sure it doesn't get to it, as much as it's in your power to do so.

Abuse victims have to go above and beyond to keep themselves safe, because we get targeted. It's not something we want to do, or something we do to make our own lives difficult. We don't enjoy it. We want to be safe. We want to let our guard down. We want to relax and believe we're surrounded by people who wouldn't harm us. But, if we're wrong, the consequences can be disastrous. And getting abused by someone we trusted was safe for us, that is not something we can survive endless times in life.

#learning from experience #abuse recovery #healing from abuse #trauma recovery #vigilance being misdiagnosed as paranoia #assuming bad attentions to keep ourselves safe #i made this mistake too many times recently #and now i'm in the worst mess psychologically then i was years ago :( #i was supposed to be getting better from trauma #instead i'm devastated on a whole new level #i didn't realize how vulnerable i could be as an adult #i lost the faith in myself after being betrayed like this

[blackrosesandwhump]

Whump Prompts 130: Lab Whump Aesthetic

CW: lab whump (obviously), blood, self-harm, psychological/emotional whump, magic whump

The lab rat uniform: loose, drab, hanging on whumpee's frame like it doesn't feel comfortable there

Bloodstained, soiled clothing, the result of experimentation

Whumpee left naked in their cell as their uniform is washed

Whumpee arriving at the lab facility as a new subject and realizing that whumper will be experimenting on them, not with tools and drugs, but with dark magic

Inhuman whumpees losing whatever shreds of humanity they might have had as time and experiments continue and they're treated more and more like animals

Or, conversely, inhuman whumpees that become more human and exhibit more human emotions as they're mistreated

Whumpee forgetting their own name because they're only referred to by a subject number

Disorientation from drugs/experiment aftermath

Whumpee's sleep, the only time they're alone, being disrupted by nightmares about what's been done to them

Or, a whumpee who's never left alone, always watched, always under observation of some kind

Whumpee's skin slowly turning into a scarred, chaotic mess from cuts/syringes/injections, etc.

Whumpee seeing their own distress and pain mirrored in the glimpsed faces of other lab rats in the facility

Whumpee learning to see themself as nothing but a test subject

Bandages, sterile gauze, sterile lights, sterile everything

Whumpee being overwhelmed when they catch a glimpse of life outside the lab when visitors arrive

Waking up after an experiment, seeing bloodied instruments and wondering groggily what terrible thing whumper could have done to them now

Learning to damage their own body to foil whumper's plans

Whumpee becoming desensitized to whumper's drugs and needing higher and higher doses for them to work

No longer recognizing their own body after recovering from whumper's last experiment

Whumper leading lab rat whumpee to a mirror, after intentionally keeping them away, and letting them see how pathetic they've become

Or, whumpee looking in a mirror and realizing that whumper has turned them into a monster

Whumpee deciding that it's too late for them and they might as well embrace what they've become

Feel free to reblog and add on!

#lab whump #experiment whump #whump aesthetic #experimentation #human experimentation #whump prompts #inhuman whumpees #lab rat whumpee #blood #torture #psychological whump #emotional whump #multiple whumpees #nonhuman whumpee #needles #injection #drugging #forced drugging #scars #scarring #whump ideas #whump inspiration

[ddarker-dreams]

here are a list of notable things that have happened at my job thus far:

i dropped a strawberry milkshake and told my trainer it looked like i bludgeoned a fairy to death. he just stared at me for a few seconds and moved onto whatever he was saying next

whenever anime is mentioned five or six of my co-workers stop what they're doing to come over and talk about it

i have had four opportunities to slip dostoevsky into a conversation, i'm spreading the gospel one person at a time

co-worker texted asking if i wanted to go to lunch and i told him i'm busy playing baldur's gate 3. he is giving me the cold shoulder now

a customer got mad over being charged an extra nickel and complained to my manager for about fifteen minutes

a customer's car got stuck on the curb and everyone ran over to watch the monitor and give sports commentary

some guy walked in with a full viking getup. covered in armor and everything. i googled if there were any conventions nearby. there were not. godspeed to him

identified LGBT co-workers with 95% accuracy

#there is no better psychology experience than interacting with the general public #lock.txt

[gloriousmonsters]

velvette and valentino absolutely both have their own money, in excess, but will ask vox to buy them things partly because they like being spoiled and partly because they know vox is (secretly, he thinks) delighted by playing the exasperated guy who can be cajoled into buying you something just this once, but you'd better not try the puppy eyes and kisses again next time, it won't work! (it continues to work, always.) it makes him feel very masculine

#vox's kinks are: (a) electrosadism #(b) deeply psychologically rooted in his experience of pretending to be a Normal Masculine Man in the 50s-60s #and feeling like he failed and deep down he's still... inadequate #(val and vel have held meetings and sworn a pact to never tell him that he IS extremely cringe but they still like him) #(his ego would not survive the first part of that sentence and he's generally cuter when he's arrogant) #happy days in hell (hazbin tag) #the vees #poly vees #polyvees #i don't know whether we're using the space... but also #polyamorvee #continuing to try to make polyamorvee happen... it's so cute

[underwhelmingalchemist]

Made this for a discord server I’m in, thought I’d put it here. Remember to be kind to yourself. Yes, even if it’s really funny

#there are a lot of ways to rephrase things to get the same sentiment across without putting yourself down #and a lot of times it can be a lot more creative or funny #'i'm going to kms'? #no #you're going to bare-knuckle box the god of fate in a denny's parking lot #'i'm trash'? #nope #you're just too iconic for most people to understand and that's a them problem #it may not fix the problem #but it definitely helps #source: personal experience #sh recovery #mental health #positivity #positive psychology

[danandfuckingjonlmao]

dnp are so much better at bullying phannies than phantis could ever dream of being. like "you guys are so cringe and annoying go touch grass" yes. correct. absolutely. no argument from me. but dnp simply saying the word ‘ph*n’? devastating. 10000000000 psychic damage. i must vanish into the forest and never return.

#ThEy’Re ToUcHiNg #you so called PHANNIES #phive nights at phannies #dan and phil are getting a divorce #the entire pinof video was a horrific traumatising experience #dnp #danandphilgames #dan and phil #phan #yeet my dnp #stop perceiving us #fr though phannies deserve it #but goddamn #it’s psychological warfare #yeet my deenp #phstudy

[tomorrowillbeyou]

[id: four green cards in a row. the cards are labelled A, D, 4 and 7 from left to right.]

Someone shows you these four cards and claims that "if there is a vowel on one side of the card, then there will be an even number on the other side". You want to be 100% sure they're telling the truth. You can verify their claim by turning over some of the cards, but you don't want to turn any unnecessarily (because you hate turning cards or something whatever idk). Don't look up the answer, try to figure it out for yourself :)

(Vowels: A, E, I, O, U. Even numbers: 0, 2, 4, 6, 8, etc.)

reblog to get more votes, or don't i'm not your boss.

#idk what to tag #experiment #?? #psychology #?????? #logic #???????????