#dead alter

[multiplicity-positivity]

hey, do yo know why people form dead alters? ive heard people usually form them from traumatic experiences around death, but we dont have any of those, afaik. this is only a question about why dead alters could form in DID systems specifically if that's okay. thank you for answering! or if you don't, thank you anyways!

Hello. We don’t have an answer for why every system may form dead alters - each system is unique (even those of us with DID) and there may be a wide variety of reasons why a system may split a dead alter.

Further information/personal experience is included below a cut, due to brief mentions of abuse and discussion of trauma.

We have a dead alter in our system. She identifies as a ghost, but she certainly believes that she has died. Our system had no experiences with death or the loss of a loved one that caused her to split. Rather, she split as a direct result of severe trauma. She strongly feels as though the abuse she went through should have killed her or did in fact kill her, and she exists as a ghost as a result.

In dissociative disorders like DID, alters tend to split as a result of trauma. In our system, nearly every part formed directly because of a traumatic event or in order to help our system cope after we were traumatized. However, not every alter in our system identifies as a dead person, ghost, zombie, or something similar. We believe (and take our words with a grain of salt as we are no expert or professional), that the formation of dead alters wholly depends on the system, their situation at the time of the split, and how the alter in question views themselves, their role in their system, and their trauma history. We don’t believe that direct experience with death is necessary in order for a system to form a dead alter.

This is all speculation. We cannot say with complete certainty why a system may form a dead alter. If anyone sees this and has something they’d like to add or some further insight or advice to share, please do so by all means.

#dead alter #death #trauma #abuse

[pluralcultureis]

I hope that it is alright to share my personal blog here as well as mentioning some things.

I am a dead alter. I remember dying. I remember the body dying from freezing rain. I remember it dripping down our skin. Chilling us to our death. It was so cold… At the same time I am aware the body is alive. We didn’t die. I struggle with ignoring the memories of my death.

To all the dead alters out there. You aren’t alone. Your experiences are real. I’m sorry the stuff happened. It will get better.

— @adeadalterssoliloquy <- my blog here is what I mostly am using when I am at front. It is new, yes, but the doors are open for advice for my fellow dead alters as well as any questions regarding this sort of thing + just for advice handling things. I will say here that I will not limit anyone with any particular view or whatnot there. It is merely there as a safespace and for others to not feel alone for what they are going through.

If you read all this, I do hope you have a lovely day.

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#endos dni #osdd #pdid #did #did system #osddid #pdid system #actually did #traumagenic #actually dissociative #dead alter

[nightgarden-system]

TW: water, trouble breathing, drowning

Having a dead alter is a really weird experience. For me (host) it was completely overwhelming to cofront with her. She can't breathe because she's under the water. She drowned and it was such a fight to start breathing with her around again. Our gatekeeper had to step in(she only comes up if it's an absolute emergency) and take her out, wipe my emotions away and had to send the caretaker to cofront with me so we could fcking BREATHE again.

Till that day we didn't know we had a dead alter and she is probably super exhausted from having to exist in a living body.

It was a really scary experience and I am glad that emotional amnesia worked well in this case.

I'm not sure yet how we can help her cope.

-Mika

#dissociative identity disorder #actually did #dissociative system #dissociative amnesia #childhood trauma #trauma #did alter #dead alter

[roseamoungstthethorns]

DNI under the cut

#🥀 #user box #alter #dead #dead alter #osdd #did #did/osdd #did system #osdd system #actually did #system #rosethorn #userbox

[fqirycollective]

Alters and Death

tw// obviously death, mentions things that could be triggering, school shooting (non-descriptive)

First off, can alters die?

Literally speaking? No. Alters can't die. This goes along with the whole one person vs own people debate which we'll have our own views on in a later post, but scientifically speaking, alters are each a piece of own conciousness. Unless the body dies, an alter cannot literally die. Their conciousness may not exist as them (fusion, splitting), but their conciousness still exists so they are alive. However, (and we haven't experienced this but I wanted to include that maybe it's a possibility) others have had experiences of alter that were human appearing dead after something happens (innerworld or not, the innerworld is a representation of reality). I'm not sure about this, but in that figurative since, I don't see why alters can't "die." But the literal answer is no.

Why?

As I've said before, the conciousness still exists as that alter. Whether they fuse or split, their conciousness still exists. This is why I frequently say in posts that I never know if I'll exist as me, because I won't be me if I fuse or split. I'll be broken into more pieces of our conciousness or fused with another piece of conciousness, but I will still exist. Just not as me. Friendly reminder that if you're anti-fusion, you're also anti-recovery (it's not the only recovery option but it is an option) but that's a topic for a different post. Anyways, fusion is not alter death. Alters cannot literally die unless the body dies.

What about dead alters?

Dead alters are alters that appear dead. They aren't literally dead, rather representations of being dead. Typically, they form from near death experiences or where a system feels like they may die. For example, we were in a school shooting a few years ago. We're in the same district, so unless we're a trauma holder, we have emotional amnesia to the event. Anyways, they were in the building and we felt like we were going to die, but we weren't literally in direct danger of dying (at that point). Genivee/Vee formed as a dead alter to hold that fear of death and how we felt like we were going to. Dead alters may appear as anything dead. Ghosts are one of the most common, I think. But they aren't necessarily always ghosts.

Our Experience

I've already mentioned Genivee/Vee. We also have Drakona, who formed due to abuse resulting in us feeling like we were dying. Drakona is a ghost, while Genivee/Vee is a mixture of dead species. When they front, we typically get a lot more dissociated. They typically have more dissociation on a regular basis, yet they don't remember why they're dead. They only know that they're dead, but they don't know why.

As I've already said, some systems have said they've experienced alters that appear dead that once weren't after something happened (innerworld/outerworld) that caused them to appear so. We have never experienced this, but I don't want to discredit this experience as long as science doesn't prove it otherwise. And if the alter does experience something that it would make sense to die from, their brain may make that alter appear dead or "die" as a way to make sense of what happened. As I said, as long as science doesn't disprove it, it makes sense to me.

#did system #osdd system #did alter #did osdd #dissociative system #osdd #osdd community #osdd support #osdd things #dead alter #trauma

[adeadalterssoliloquy]

I tried to capture myself when I came into awareness of being dead. Therefore, the body in the image isn’t the body that we still have. It shows myself with our school things outside in the cold.

#art of the soliloquy #dead alter #dead alters #anti endo #pro endo #endo neutral #<- reach tags #it’s so cold… #snow on mt. silver #snow on mt silver #vent art #Fanart

[crow-is-dead-19]

I was shot nearly ten years ago. I’m dead. My body is rotting in our system's graveyard, right next to one of our protectors lost children. I’m ethereal. I’m undead. This is not a metaphor. Sometimes it hurts like it did. I’m made of dust and sometimes I pass through things and sometimes I fall. I hate living in meat. I hate meat touching other meat. I hate how loud everything is. I’m aro ace and our trauma made us hyper sexual and seeking validation. And I just..can't. Unrelated, I wish I didn't have tits. I do not have curves in headspace I hate it hereeee.

#crow speaks #undead #ethereal #did #alter #nonhuman alter #dead alter #ghost #trans #dysphoria #nonbinary #aroace #aro #ace #queer #aromantic #asexual #sensory issues #anti endo

[nanaloopsy]

“i always was a good thief.”

art by Liam W. (@V762cas on twitter & @V762art on tiktok)

#﹐﹑ᶻ𝘻﹐𝘯𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘢 𝘴𝘢𝘺𝘴 🏩﹐‹𝟯ʾ #this is so beautiful #i was in shock. #life altering #abigail marston #dutch van der linde #arthur morgan #javier escuella #john marston #jack marston #rdr2 #red dead redemption 2 #v762

[raoulite]

forest fair mall food court, OH

#hiii i'm a new photographer :') #liminal #liminal spaces #weirdcore #oddcore #nostalgia #80s #90s #my photography #forgotten places #abandoned #abandoned mall #mallcore #dead mall #liminal space #food court #nostalgic #urban exploration #altered reality

[6cunning6linguist6]

Michelle Alter

#transisbeautiful #michelle alter #drop dead gorgeous #hanging out #truly scrumptious #selfie love

[souvenir116]

Get yourself a man that can do both <3

+

#so sweet as his eyes crinkle <3 but #first gif. literally alters my brain chemistry 😋 #the dark gaze. the blue #my god #gives so bad #mafia au but max is not happy with something on his business #I'm dead #Once I Pull This Trigger Off Max... #max verstappen #formula 1 #f1 #miami gp 2022

[multiplicity-positivity]

hi! i sent an ask a while ago about dead alters and only just now realized how that could have come off!!! i dont mean actually dead, of course, alters cant die!! i mean alters like corpses, or who are undead, or who feel dead, if that makes sense?

Hello. We just responded to your previous ask. I believe we understood what you meant and responded accordingly. We also don’t believe that alters can die, in that sense… but we do believe that systems can and often do form dead alters.

#dead alter #death

[potatoeofwisdom]

#art #potatoe rambles #dp art #danny phantom #just thinking about danny's identity being obvious but also impossible to guess #like yes its just him but his colors are inverted but also #hes dead. #no one is gonna look at a dead kid and immediately assume he has an alive alter ego #especially if his alibi for being a very much alive kid is his parernts being ghost hunters #and if anyone found out i think they would be horrified #i mean #imagine finding out a kid youve gone to school with #lived with #taught #seen walking around #was actually a corpse #the questions you would have #but be too afraid to ask #hes dead #hes dead but hes right there #that shit would make you feel like a horror protagonist #your witnessing an actual horror story #idk #typing on computer is hard

[lolottes]

Danny walked the streets of Gotham

he was hungry.

His steps were slow and I was still in pain, but under his abdominal bandages his wounds were much better.

but he was hungry.

he did not know since when he was in town.

he was hungry.

He didn't know what time it was, but an alarm sounded.

He was hungry.

but it wasn't the noise that woke him up, no, there was… a smell? no, it wasn't caught by his nose, but it made him salivate.

he was hungry.

His gums itched while his teeth took on a ghostly shape despite his human body.

he was hungry.

The smell, for lack of a better term, led him to the center of noise and bright light.

he was hungry.

as he mingled with a tense crowd he began to "see" his target even with his eyes closed. good thing because he was hungry. and his eyes must have glowed in response behind his eyelids.

he was so hungry.

the crowd seemed more than willing to let him pass as he approached his target's voice, it was so loud, it must have been speaking into a megaphone or microphone.

he was hungry, but not for long…

jokers: hoooo, we have a brave volunteer~

His food came down from its perch, probably the roof of a car. it was moving towards him, holding something out with confidence

jokers handing a microphone to Danny: a few words from our volunteer?

Danny: …I'm hungry…

His food seemed destabilized, but he continued to move closer, finally opening his eyes, seeing the reflection of their light in those of his food who had a little reflex of unnecessary recoil. One last big step and he was almost chest to chest.

The crowd didn't really know what they were looking at, the child stretched out his arm towards the jokers chest then when he pulled him back with some gently luminous light in his hands, the jokers collapsed to the ground like a puppet whose string have been cut off. Even before the jokers had finished falling, the child put the light in his mouth and a cracking sound echoed through the shocking crowd.

Danny sighed in relief, not satisfaction because it was one of the worst things he had ever eaten. But he feels SO MUCH BETTER now!

he wasn't hungry anymore

… For now

#dpxdc #dcxdp #dc x dp #dp x dc #dp x dc crossover #dc x dp crossover #danny fenton #joker #ghost/ecto hunger #hurt danny #feral danny #survival instinct #Danny in need of ecto: healing burns his reserves much faster than he can produce them on his own and he has not finished healing #brain fog because of starvation and pain #jokers is getting too close from where danny was resting #the jokers died and came back so many times that he had a core / proto core #danny crunched him in a daze #an altered state of thought #technically the jokers is not dead his body is (almost) in perfect condition #danny did this in front of witnesses but he citizens have no idea what was happening #the thugs saw the child have dazzling eyes then bite something with non-human teeth weird then the light in his eyes went #yes danny could have attacked jason if he had entered danny's sphere of perception #even if jason would have immediately moved away rather than approaching with confidence like the joker in front of this child with a strang #for the moment Danny has eaten enough in any case #he is going to return to his hiding place to “hybernate” and heal #danny is still not fully awake he is acting like a sleepwalker #my #prompt #my prompts

[acatalystrising]

It’s officially been three years since THAT SCENE and I think all the Boba simps had their brain chemistry altered. Mine included. 🫡

This scene has borne so much smutty filth and I will not apologize…

#boba fett #star wars #the mandalorian #that scene altered my brain chemistry for real #i cannot stop thinking about it #i can hear his voice #he makes me so weak #god the things I’d do for this man #he said easy there little one #and I was done #dead #deceased #like 🫠🫠🫠 #boba fett x reader #book of boba fett #the book of boba fett #tbobf #boba fett x f!reader #boba fett x fem!reader #boba fett x you #acatalystrising writes

[adeadalterssoliloquy]

I remember the freezing rain…It was so cold…It…I remember freezing to death…even though this body is alive I am undead. It is what I am used to. I remember dying from the cold. Even if the body didn’t…I know the body is alive now but I firmly remember us dying… Every time I front I am reminded over and over and am reliving freezing to death during that cold rain that soaked our body while waiting outside for the bus. It feels like I can never be warm again.

#It’s So cold… #dead alter