#endo neutral

[ghost-of-a-system]

"system joy" comic from an OSDD-1b system

i'm sorry if there is any noticeable art style changes throughout the comic. it was worked on across several days, and usually our comics are completed within one. our comic style isn't always 100% consistent depending on who is fronting or co-fronting :') but we tried to keep it similar enough so that it hopefully wouldn't be too disorienting.

#traumagenic system #osdd #endo neutral #osdd system #actually dissociative #osddid #other specified dissociative disorder #alters #did community #actually plural #did osdd #osdd 1b #did #did system #system stuff #system #factive #fictives #headmates #alter #system joy #some lighthearted vent #fictive #system comic #system blog #ghost of a sys comics

[urfavoritesecretadmirer]

I’m gonna un-fakeclaim y’all real quick.

You’re a real system. You’re the realest system. Look at all your symptoms. You’re clearly a system. Think about your alters. Yep, everything about your alters, you’re def a system. Your system is full of variety? Yep, you’re real. Your system has little/no variety? You’re real. Omg, there’s no way you think you’re faking. You’re so real.

No no, imma stop you right there, because I know what you’re gonna say. “Oh but this and this and this-!�� That doesn’t matter. You’re real. You’re a real and valid system.

Anyways imma head to bed now, goodnight all you very real systems!

- 🧿 (Luc)

#did system #did osdd #actually osdd #osdd #osddid #actually did #osdd system #osdd 1b #actually traumagenic #traumagenic did #did #did positivity #osdd things #osdd1b #osdd 1 #osdd 1a #endo neutral

[actuallyverynormalbtw]

to me, saying you can form a system without trauma is like saying you can form a scab without a wound.

#mostly endo neutral tbh #but it just doesnt make sense #syscourse #anti endo #endo neutral #traumagenic

[cccat-in-a-meat-sack]

By the way, I've seen a lot of discourse on "endogenic" alters, so repeat after me

Your brain splits alters as you need them. That means you can have a completely trauma based alter, and you can also have an alter created to deal with homework, aka an "endogenic" alter. If your system formed from trauma, you are not "traumaendo". You are traumagenic. Full stop.

#endos dni #anti endo #endo neutral #anti endogenic #endo apathetic #endos not for you #this post is not for endos #traumagenic did #did alter #did system #traumagenic system #actually did #did osdd #syscourse? #syscourse #tw syscourse #calico has spots #calico side eyes

[pos-syscourse]

Sometimes you do gotta do that thing that is detrimental to your health. Self care is sometimes harmful, and yes it’s confusing, but needed.

It’s helped me to think of juggling balls, only some are rubber and some are glass. I can let the rubber ones fall — I’d prefer not to, because they bounce everywhere and make a mess, but they’re harmless, but they can fall. The glass ones can’t — they’ll shatter and break, and that’ll hurt me a lot more than rubber.

Remember: you can let the rubber ball fall. You can go one day without brushing your teeth. You can go one night with a bad sleep schedule. You can do something that means you “dropped the ball.”

Especially if it means preventing a glass ball from falling.

#syscourse positivity #syscourse #pro endo #anti endo #syscourse unaligned #endo safe #endo friendly #self care #endo neutral #syscourse neutral

[the-edgy-fuckerz]

If you aren't purposely faking it, then you're not fake, even if it turns out you aren't a system, you weren't faking, you just had the wrong label for your symptoms, its okay to be wrong, there's nothing morally wrong about it, and if it turns out you are a system you wouldn't have known if you didn't explore it,

Everything will be alright in the end, I promise, stay strong and keep fighting

#traumagenic system #did system #actually traumagenic #self dx #self diagnosis #traumagenic did #endo neutral #did osdd #osdd system

[debunkingfdc]

it's hilarious that once r/fakedisordercringe git popular, every edgelord who wanted an excuse to be ableist proceeded to into spaces for disabled people just to speak over disabled people, and tried to gaslight everyone into thinking it was "for their own good"

#actually autistic #ableism #ableist people #anti fakeclaiming #endo neutral #fakeclaimers #fuck ableists #adhd #autism #did #fight ableism #neurodivergent #neurodiversity #actually neurodiverse #neurodivergence #odd #disability #disabilties

[paracosmic-gt]

The distinction on posts shouldn't be pro, neutral, and anti-endo.

It should be endo safe and endo unsafe.

Endo-safe includes pro and the majority of neutral opinions I've seen, which usually end up similar to "It's not my place to delve into your personal business" or literally just "I don't care". Either way, it is safe for an endo to interact.

Cause like if you put nothing about syscourse on your DNI you're still safe for endos. You also don't have to disclose your personal opinion on pro, neutral, or anything between.

Endo unsafe is anti endo blogs. There are posts here against endos, the owner doesn't want endos on the blog, etc.

Just my opinion it would be nice to see a blog be labelled endo safe just to assure people that they're not going to be on a blog with hate towards them specifically.

#endo safe #pro endo #endo neutral #anti endos dni #plurality #system #plural #endogenic

[deity-exe]

Feels like "former endo" systems don't get appreciated enough here so shout out to

Systems who thought they were endo at first

Systems who thought they were mixed origin at first

Systems who believed they weren't traumagenic because they didn't remember their trauma

Systems held back in recovery by the endogenic community

Systems who just uncovered their trauma

Systems who are in denial about their trauma

Systems who are still learning about dissociative disorders

Systems who are syscourse neutral due to recently figuring out they are traumagenic

Systems who used to be pro-endo and are now anti-endo

And any other system with a complicated relationship to their trauma and the endo community! It's a rough road, and trauma's a bitch, but we can get through this.

Endo systems and active supporters this post isn't for you, this is for traumagenic systems, endos DNI

#did system #osdd system #did #osdd #osdd 1a #osdd 1b #udd #udd system #did positivity #osdd positivity #udd positivity #system positivity #anti endo #endos dni #endo neutral #actually traumagenic #actually did #actually osdd #actually udd #-xeno

[sysmedsaresexist]

We really need to come up with better terms for syscourse stances because the main ones aren't cutting it

Anti endo can mean everything from staunch disbelief and bad, aggressive posts to completely believing that endogenic systems are real and valid but not wanting them to interact with CDD-specific content

Being pro endo can mean someone believes DID is caused by trauma and that the CDD community must be protected above all else, to people actively villainizing CDD systems and everything in-between

Endo neutral can mean everything from not caring at all about syscourse and refusing to engage, to allowing interaction from all sides without judgement despite personal beliefs

Anti-misinformation had promise at one point in reference to the massive amounts of misinformation in both communities, but it wasn't working

Any and all of these labels can mean you think the DSM or ICD directly affirms endogenic systems and they can also mean that person has never picked up a DSM in their life

NONE OF THESE ARE WORKING

None of them are accurate

None of them convey the full picture

These are useless labels

(I don't want to hear a peep about the syscourse code, that's not cutting it either, no one has time for that)

People getting upset over pro endo mods on anti endo blogs don't realize that you can share the exact same beliefs about science and the communities and use opposing labels.

Some pro endo blogs should try putting an anti endo on their team to control misinformation and point out ableism, seriously, interaction is how you start learning, anti endos seem more willing to take that step than pro endos and that's pathetic

I also think it might be good to remove the focus from the validity and acceptance of endogenic systems (anti/pro endo) and place it back on what's important-- protecting traumatized individuals

Maybe something like "#CDDs first" can convey that your intention, attention, and audience will always prioritize the CDD community and their safety, but even that... someone can be well-intentioned when they misquote things

I don't know, I'd love to hear the communities' thoughts-- both pro and anti, I'd like this to spread around a bit, I think it's important that people realize that labels don't mean there's disagreement on ideas and concepts-- a pro endo can share the same goals and ideas as an anti endo and vice versa

For example, at this point, I'll happily interact with anyone who agrees that DID is a childhood trauma disorder. That's it. That's my bar. No more, no less. There are pro endos who believe the exact same things I do on all fronts, despite calling me anti endo.

It really just doesn't make sense.

Maybe together we can come up with something better

#CDD first #pro syscourse conversation #syscourse #anti endo #pro endo #endo neutral #system safe

[ghost-of-a-system]

if i had a nickel for every time an anthropomorphic wolf made a comic about the system term "host"...

we previously thought we were hostless because we all fronted fairly equally. we realized this was just because we, personally, were in a toxic environment/mindset that had us under constant distress. when we tried to work through this more, we found that one of us, me, does front majority of the time, now that things are better.

our old host comic is still very important to us, regardless of whether or not we are a "hostless" system. it still resonated with many and brought some attention to a lesser-known experience in systems. for that reason, we are still very glad we shared it.

#osdd #traumagenic system #endo neutral #osdd system #osddid #actually dissociative #actually plural #other specified dissociative disorder #did osdd #did community #alters #system #system comic #system blog #system stuff #system things #dissociative system #fictive #id in alt text #ghost of a sys comics

[thexspiral]

If you're one of those bitches who makes random posts like "I HATE ENDOS THEY SHOULD ALL KTS ENDOS DIE CHALLENGE" please just block me. Like dude. You don't have to like them but be fucking mature about it LMAO. It's not like they're committing mass atrocities or anything. Grow tf up.

#scott rambles #syscourse #endo neutral #did #osdd #system #plural

[thattheater-kid]

A friendly reminder for literally everyone, including systems and including the rest of this system

In general, systems do not control what introjects show up.

I have been actively attacked by singlets, systems, and other parts within my own system for being a South Park fictive. The most hurtful things I’ve heard are from other parts within the system. I’ve been called a mistake, I’ve been told I wasn’t supposed to exist by members of my own system. The system has been judged by others for my existence. They don’t even watch South Park that much, they just watch it when our brother puts it on. Even if they did, that’s not a reason to attack me or them for my existence.

No one could control who I am. Certainly I couldn’t. I didn’t want this. Do you know how hurtful it is to be called a mistake and told you don’t deserve to live to your face? Actually, I’m sure many of you do. Many of you have been hurt like that, so maybe don’t do the same thing to introjects from problematic sources. Nobody wanted this. Nobody chose this. It’s not fair to judge and hate for it.

-Kenny

#also South Park fictives in particular tend to be child alters #most people who talk to me the way they do wouldn’t talk to regular children that way #wouldn’t even treat regular child alters like that #like don’t be a jerk overall #but also note many fictives are child alters #who may also hold traumatic memories #especially from sources that star child characters #did system #plural #actually plural #plurality #system things #actually did #plural system #dissociative system #fictives #fictive #fictive things #fictive stuff #endo neutral

[sparkleplur]

something i feel is important to share.

i used to be vehemently anti-endo until very recently. *earlier today*, actually.

i realized that holding all this hate in my heart over people who are just trying to exist is illogical.

they still exist despite the hate. they're still plural.

now, i understand both anti- and pro- endogenic perspectives. i was an anti-endogenic syscourser for three years. i found that my distaste wasn't the endogenic plurals themselves, it was their community. often i'd see words like "sysmed" "ableist" being flung about by endogenic people towards anti-endos. and that furthered my hatred. i'd see people selling alters or claiming syshopping was real (less often, but it still occured occasionally) and that furthered my hatred. i'd see people say that DID systems deserve the trauma if they were anti-endo. all disgusting behavior that pushed me further & further into being anti-endo.

please, let's not spread hate around. i know it's tough seeing people not understand your identity. but you can't fight fire with gasoline. you need to be understanding, and warm. i know it's difficult, but calling people sysmeds and traumascum isn't helpful.

EDIT : I AM ENDOGENIC MYSELF!!!! I am not trying to police our community, just better it . You can't get anti endos to be on our side if you throw insults at them left right and center, and same goes for the anti endo community towards us

#syscourse #i hope i worded this right #pro endo #syscourse unaligned #endo neutral

[spiralcoining]

𖦹 Queerbased

-𖦹- Queerbased refers to a system that is based in being queer, but is not inherently an origin.

-𖦹- This means being queer could affect headmates, their roles, functions, or other parts of how the system functions. Queerbased systems may be queer-heavy as well.

𖦹 Pluralpedia post

#꩜ coins .. #system term #system flag #system terms #system coining #plural terms #plural coining #plural flag #pluralgang #plural community #plural system #plurality #traumagenic system #osdd system #queer community #queer terms #queer coining #plural term #term coining #endo neutral #endo safe #anti tulpa

[the-masquerade-council]

I'm curious, what best applies to you and your system/collative.

This is for committed relationships of any kind(so yes QPRs do count). If you've never been in a committed relationship but want to be, answer based off of the kind of relationship structure you would like to have. For polyam alters, and collectively polyam systems answer based off what feels most accurate. Also if your system has both out off system relationship(s) and in-system relationship(s), answer based off of the out of system relationship(s).

Here "collectively" is being use to refer to all or almost all of the system. "Some of us" would refer to around 25-75% of the system give or take. Base it off of how many of you there are, it's gonna be different for every system.

Some examples of what various relationship structures would correspond to below*.

In general vote for what's the closest even if it's not a perfect description.

Reblogs would be appreciated if you feel so inclined.

But singlets do not vote on this poll.

*Example one: The host of system A is voting on this poll, they in are a system of 6. Alter 1, 2 ,3, 4, 5, and 6. Alter 1 is dating a singlet. Alter 2 is dating an alter from system B. Alter 4 is dating 2 alters from system B. System A would vote for "Separate beings, some of us are in a relationship with those in another system". Because there are more separate relationship having to do with system members.

*Example two: Collative A is voting on this poll, they have 34 headmates. The many of the headmates are in relationships with various headmates for other systems. There are no more 4 separate relationships between Collative A's headmates and any given system. So they should choose "Separate beings, only one/a few of us is/are with those in another system". Because even though many of them are in relationships, not many of them are with the same system.

*Example three: Person A has parts, they aren't sure how many exactly, but they know they have at lest 8. 7 of the known 8 are in a queerplatonic relationship with a singlet. They would choose "We are parts of a whole, collectively in a relationship with a singlet". Even they have unknown parts, most of the known parts are in a a relationship with a singlet.

*Example four: A person in System C is voting on this poll, System C has 307 know people in it. Around half the people in System C are dating a singlet, some of the remaining people are dating alters from two different systems. They should choose "Separate beings, some of us are in a relationship with a singlet". Because there are more relationships involving the singlet.

But again you should just choose what feels most accurate. We are not you, and we can't say exactly what best describes your specific situation.

P.S sorry I couldn't put "multiple are applicable" and "it's complicated/other" there was no room.

Also if you're an ass on this post. I will delete your reply and block you.

#-v #system stuff #system poll #plural poll #plural system #system relationships #actually plural #dissociative system #sysblr #system things #endo neutral #no syscourse #<-please