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absolutely rizzless oml
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irondad-defensesquad · 3 months
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i think mcu steve is extremely idealized.
first, he becomes a super human, and apparently all his disabilities and medical problems disappear. which is honestly not a good message to actual disabled people, imo.
second, his backstory is mostly mentioned. we don't see a lot from steve's childhood or anything on screen. i think they detail it more in the comics, the same way they do for tony's childhood, but the fact that it's almost absent from the movies is a problem. they only mention his mother's name as far as i remember. nothing else. (please correct me if i'm wrong, of course)
mcu steve doesn't feel like a flawed character that has to change, the same way others are, like tony. mcu tony is clearly a flawed human being with several issues and a traumatic childhood (even if the mcu tries to paint howard in a good light, it still explains why tony deals with so much self-hatred and relies on unhealthy coping mechanisms, such as drinking). we don't see steve developing as a character. they might joke in that one scene of endgame where present steve rolls his eyes at past steve, but honestly? to me they feel like the same character. steve never changes. even when he's clearly wrong, the narrative insists that he's right.
steve betrays tony and gives him a half-assed "apology" letter. steve does not mourn sam and bucky at all in endgame, instead focusing on that one girl he kissed ONCE. and steve not only abandoned bucky, he took away peggy's agency and her happy ending. she already had a loving husband and children. not to mention the implications here. steve went back to a very flawed and bigoted period of time, and it's implied that he did not try to intervene in tragedies such as bucky being turned into the winter soldier, or tony's parents tragically dying. steve just stayed home. why couldn't he fucking do that in the present? he could've retired without changing someone else's life for his own gain.
it doesn't make SENSE. the winter soldier was a great film and it showed steve that he has to move on from the past and do what he can in the present. but no, steve never leaves the past behind, he literally goes back to it. and even then, it's all about peggy. it's not about his family. nor his mother, sarah, who's probably the person who inspires steve the most. but where the fuck is she? why does she only get ONE mention?
and by the way, i used to love steve. the first avenger and the winter soldier are still solid movies to me. that's why his ending sucks ass. and i've seen many steve fans who agree with me. he's such an important character in the marvel universe, and perhaps a lot more enjoyable and human in other media (like comics and cartoons). mcu steve is... nothing. he's just a walking propaganda for hypermasculinity.
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Peggy Carter minding her own business in the late 1940’s
Steve Rogers walks up to her
Peggy: Oh hey Steve what’s- BLOODY HELL AREN’T YOU DEAD
Steve: Nope
Peggy: Then where’s your friend Bucky?
Steve:
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darealsaltysam · 5 months
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im so unwell. she lost the person she loved only to then realize she was pregnant and left to raise her son alone. her parents wouldn't support her and she thought her sister forgot about her. dont talk to me for the next 2 - 3 business days
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hannaxjo · 1 year
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Sometimes I think to myself that, maybe Steve's ending wasn't that bad, at least he's happy and gets to finally take a break.
Then I remember that it was Peggy, who made Steve look like this.
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And then i'm pissed af again.
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simplylupin · 3 months
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everyone talks about how dirty the writers did steve rogers in endgame but hardly anyone mentions how dirty they did PEGGY
like she had a whole life, she moved on and had a husband and kids and a happy, fulfilling life
but they basically threw that all away and invalidity her whole entire life just for a guy she kissed ONCE
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I can't get over how scared and hurt Steve looks after Peggy shoots at him.
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ms-march · 2 years
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Sorry, he WHAT.
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oh-my-damn · 1 year
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why do you not like Peggy?
Well, I actually used to be a Steggy supporter before I'd watched all of the Cap movies. I originally watched IW and Endgame at a point where the only Cap movie I had seen prior to, was TFA. So I was obvi team Steggy.
Then when I started getting into Marvel and Chris I finally watched TWS and CW and my mind changed immediately. I knew with every bone in my body that Steve did not just spend 5 movies sacrificing everything for Bucky, only to then leave him in the last five minutes? It doesn't make sense. So mainly it wasn't that I disliked Peggy, it was that I disliked Steve's ending and the fact that he left Bucky.
However, that being said, I do dislike Hayley Atwell. This post should help clarify why. So because of that I also tend to dislike Peggy a bit more. I also thought she was irrational and unreasonable at times; shooting at Steve bc he kissed someone else when youve been off fonduing with Howard Stark? Bitch didn't even know if the shield would work. I never liked that.
And on the other hand, I also never liked how Steve went back and essentially fucked her entire life up. She moved on and told him to do the same AND HE DID. But then the writers stopped feeling creative and so they wrote that sloppy ending. Makes no sense.
Steve deserved better.
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thenixkat · 9 months
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At some point I may have the motivation to write a Dorohedoro au where Kai isn't a teamkilling asshole and my broke anticapitalist murder puppies get to have their happy ending.
I'm still mad at Kai for fucking eating my favorite character! And also what he did to Natsuki, like sir, you are a grown ass entity don't add seduction into yer murder plot for a teenager who already trusts you!
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heres-the-marvel-tea · 3 months
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What if…? season 2 lost me when they started giving Peggy Natasha’s lines.
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https-dandelion · 2 months
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i rewatched captain america the first avenger and all of a sudden i am a child/tween/13 year old obsessed with marvel again. i miss the old mcu so much it aches my heart and i didn't realise i could feel this way about movies but those movies raised me
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val-writesstuff · 1 year
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Y'all know what horrible thought just popped into my head?
STEVE WENT BACK IN TIME. HE GOT TO LIVE A HAPPY LIFE WITH PEGGY WHILE HE KNEW WHAT BUCKY WAS GOING THROUGH. HE LEFT HIM IN THERE, LET ALL OF THAT KEEP GOING ON LIKE HE DIDN'T KNOW
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gatheredfates · 9 months
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I'm sorry your work has sucked so hard - I get that feeling. Something nice to read on the train... the beach we're going to today has a dog playground section, but mine is too skittish to bring!! I'd like to imagine him running around in it but I know he'd just want to hide! He's an anxious guy and prefers quiet snuggles. Hopefully you get a quiet relaxing day soon!
Aww, your poor little boy!! I had a very shy dog myself growing up; she was a border collie who had been abused as a puppy, so she was very distrustful of a lot of people. I think she'd be much the same in that she would LOVE that kind of atmosphere but want to HIDE from everything around her. She was super cute, though. She used to do this little chortle noise when my sister and I got home because she was so excited to see us! Give your dog a pet from me!
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thesokovianaccords · 1 year
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trying my best not to DNF a fic that has a terrible take on the steve-in-peggys-office scene from endgame
send reinforcements 
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