#i wanna save that quote for an actual illustration
Text
1: is that a fancy threat? or a weird prophecy?
2: neither
2: its a choice
fun fact! soleil’s main design hadn’t received an actual redesign since she was first created in 2021! while i changed super minor details along the way (bc i refuse to look at my own ocs references) he stayed fundamentally the same up until now! This still has many details from their og design but I simply gave it more character, I think! I’m frankly really happy with it ^_^
More yapping below
Sorry Its One Big Wall Of Text
One issue I had with Soleil’s initial design was that it was supposed to look a little weird. Like something your avg person wouldn’t wear 24/7. I couldn’t have her change outfits bc by the lore another weird thing he does is simply never change clothes. Their old design SURE was something your avg person wouldn’t wear everyday it was still lacking that ,, weirdness factor I think? It was really clean. I wanted her to look both organic and alive yet not exactly in a way that makes sense? Something graceful yet also just. flesh. Sol is cool bc. I associate her heavily with a lot of meat and flesh but she isn’t even flesh and bone herself. N that plays into the weirdness of it all too? I think. Its 1 am right now sorry if this is very badly worded LMAO Sol also acts as a good parallel to AZIMUTH actually in this design ideology bc . hes also supposed to look out of place and odd. But he looks out of place in a polished-almost out of your computer screen kind of way. Hes colorful (and he actually changes clothes very frequently. Too Frequently.) N thats a well contrast to sol.. I think.. Fun. Very Fun. Anyways yeah back to sol. Sols hair started out fairly tame but along the refusing to use references the art telephone game tm with myself it became very sharp and pointy and just. messy. and thats just not what i think he should look like ?!?! So i fixed up his hair. The tiptoeing thing was jist sumn that came to me while i was sketching N i was like OH this is it! That will add to the Weirdness Factor or something. I’ve walked on my tiptoes basically all my life n ppl always made huge of a deal out of it so ik from experience people notice it n perceive it as. odd behavior 🤧 I was thinking of mayb going for an anatomically correct heart silhouette or something but. Im very attached to soleils generally Very Symmetrical silhouette i didnt wanna touch it much… I think i incorporated enough <3 hearts to make up for it though! OH AND. Downturned her eyes! Ive been not drawing characters with downturned eyes for a while . Unsure why it became less frequent of me to draw them. Figured they fit her so. Thats a win for me bc i always love trying to make sure my ocs have unique ish traits within their circles. VERY LIKELY the design will get simplified as i draw him in the future. We’ll see i guess. That’s all i think maybe. Goodnight from the Key
#i was actually going to put a different. quote from my notes at the beginning#but i went to scavenge through my private server for some sol dialog instead#i wanna save that quote for an actual illustration#1 is avi and 2 is soleil i just didnt feel like writing their names there#oc#original character#my art#oc artwork#oc art#ocs#v teatime#Soleil Teatime#oc lore#oc design#character design
4 notes
·
View notes
Note
abatina, hollyhock, oak?
✨ @halbermenschen. meme. still accepting!
abatina : is there anything in life your muse has changed their mind about over time ( due to becoming more educated on the topic , certain experiences , etc . ) , or that they would change their mind about under certain circumstances ?
the thought of being a parent used to make him wanna crawl outta his skin lol like he was like oh................. im not cut out for that sh*t. he saw people he graduated with having children, people he attended college with, et cetera. same for marriage. understandably someone that young would feel that way lol. esp since he was going through so much. and he couldn’t ever figure out if he had enough love in his heart to actually carry through with commitment and raising a family. there’s a quote from a book i rly like that kinda illustrates how he went from not wanting a family to wanting one
‘ . I look down and see my shaking hands, my dirty pants, the filthy bathroom floor. I am a drunk. I am a bulimic. I cannot love a child, because all I do is hurt the people I love. I cannot teach someone else how to live because I am only half alive.
[ ... ]
I am no longer a pool of tenderness. I am a tree. Everyone else can be hopeful and afraid but I am neither. I am resolute, solid, and separate. [ ... ] I can only save this baby who came and trusted me to come back to life. I cannot be distracted by anyone else’s feelings. I will be fierce and steady, like my mother. ’
so yes he wants a husband and children and yadda even tho he certainly said he would never anything like that ever in his life because he felt himself incapable of being that loving in his own personal life. he kind of had to have a long sit down with himself about it and basically drill into his own head that he’s not an awful person. and that it’s okay to want that kind of life for himself. and now he welcomes with open arms.
sometimes he finds it funny because his parents have a happy marriage even though theyre terribly flawed people ( well mostly his mom lol ) and all that. so he never got what external factor made him so fearful. most likely that split second of insecurity about his own sexuality, lack of experience, yadda.
hollyhock : how strong is your muse’s sense of ambition ? what’s something they strive for in life ?
if u had to reduce virote to a single trait it would be ambition lol.... hes a steel trap shaped like a person. all the shit he’s had to overcome and he literally never quits. whether anyone likes it or not, he’s going to get what he wants. and there’s nothing anyone can do about it. he’s on a �� if i have to stab u in the throat to achieve a goal, i’ll do it ’ basis but hopefully he dont gotta go there because the only thing he wants to do is make the world a better place. :))))
he’s a tree... resolute... solid.... yea babey.
oak has been answered here.
0 notes
Photo
Thought process and easter egg on the Digimon Anniversary Illustration!
Hello everyone, today I feel like explaining some stuff over my Digimon Illustration, mostly why I drew thing this way or point out some little details and easter eggs you might have missed. ;)
Click on read more if you want a LENGTHLY explanation with a lot of rambling from me, or if not you can just enjoy the process gif. <3
The Digimon illustration was a special one for me for different reasons. Firstly, obviously, Digimon! It was a show I grew up with, and I find it quite fitting that after a tough year of graduation movie under a pandemic, in which I really experienced the pain of growing up, I ended up finding back Digimon.
Secondly, as a child, I remember spending HOURS looking for fanarts online! I would save all the ones I found pretty and keep them preciously, i still have the folders actually haha. While pursuing art, I always had in mind thatI wanted one day to make a fanart my child self would have gone crazy over! And, i think I achieved that with that one haha.
Anyway LET’S START! Shall we?
First off : the illustration process
When I do an illustration I always do a quick draft first, and most of the time, in colors. I think I’m more of a “color” person than a “line” person, I tend to need to see colors quickly in order to see if it’s ok.
For this one, I’ve always had in mind it would be a double illustration, with the older Tai’s silhouette acting as a frame for the children illustration. It was a bit tricky, I had to make the children illustration fit nicely into his silhouette, it was hassle around the neck area, that’s why I made little Taichi stand up haha. Also used Mimi’s hat to balance the picture : the bottom part is very heavy and there’s only sky in the upper part, adding the hat helps making it more balanced.
The character were the longest and the most challenging part by far. As you can see I had 3 different steps : super rough, they’re almost like stickmen and smiley face, a more detailled one in which I figure out their actual pose and anatomy, then a last one in which I fix some proportion, add details and clean. Fun fact I don’t clean over a new layer... i just erase the unwanted part of my sketch. :’D
I did a quick pass over the BG after that, then I colored the characters in flat colors before rendering them. It was a back and forth between the BG and the characters to make sure everything was working together nicely.
Now was the time to render the BG, I did the tramway first, the flower field after. Fun fact, I did my flower field study in order to know how to approach the flowers in this illustration! If your have the time, i totally recommend finding a photograph close to the kind of BG you wanna do, and make a study of it so you can try your hand at it first and go into your own BG later with an idea of how to approach this.
Adjust colors, add flower petals and butterflies and emotional text, slap over a paper texture, and THERE. You have it! On to the next part now...
The meaningful details and easter eggs
Be aware there will be spoilers for Digimon Adventure 01 (but I assume you already know it), but also for Digimon Adventure : Last evolution Kizuna, which is the conclusion of the first serie. So read at your own risk!
The tramway is obviously a reference to the end of Digimon Adventure 01. The kids used it to go back to their world, so It was their goodbye to their Digimon at this moment. In Kizuna, Tai and Matt find the tramway trapped in crystal in Menoa’s fake memory world. Hinting that had they been caught by her, their memories would have brought them back here.
Tailmon has Kari’s whistle! At the end of Digimon Adventure 01, Kari gives it to her as a memento.
When I drew Sora, I had in mind how she was in Kizuna, very stressed out by her mom’s expectation, which led her to neglect Piyomon. She realized it too late, and after that she refused to fight because she wanted to keep Piyomon with her as long as possible. Tragically, she was the first one to lose her Digimon. Here I tried to convey a softness and a kind of “I won’t forget to appreciate you” vibe in the way she holds Piyomon’s hand. As for Mimi and Palmon, in Digimon adventure 01 Palmon was very emotionally affected by Mimi’s departure, so, a hug was fitting. :’)
The screens on the Tramway display DA for Digimon Adventure, and also 01.08.1999 which is the date of the children’s journey’s beginning. :)
The little drawings also show the 8 crests.
There are butterflies flying over the illustration, it’s a reference to Butter-fly, the first Digimon opening, by the late Koji Wada.
"I'll become a happy butterfly, and ride on the glittering wind, I'll come and see you soon. “
Now, let’s the see the counterpart of the illustration. The one with the grown up Tai from Kizuna.
I made him wear the hoodie he had in his very last adventure with Agumon.... but truthfully the reason is that I think hoodies are cool lol. And the hood’s volume gave me more space in the silhouette, which made it easier for me to do the other illustration inside.
You don’t see it clearly, but he is holding his Digivice, albeit the darkened version once his partner bond with Agumon is broken. The Tai in this illustration has already lost Agumon. (Yes it was painful for me to go fetch the screenshots)
He is also holding his dear signature google he used to wear as a child. Fun fact, I rewatched the older movies, and as a kid he even used to sleep with it, how cute haha.
Also yes, the crest of Courage over his hand, which is his own. I’m so dumb I realize I should have made the time counter from the movie instead of the crest for a maximum emotional hurt impact.
And the quote is from one of the trailer for Kizuna, I think.....................
But then you go : Oh that illustration is so depressing then! Well. Yes. But no. but yes. But not really.
One of my favorite shot of the movie is this one : this is after Tai and Agumon learn their time together is limited. Agumon asks him if they will have to go separate ways once Tai is all grown up. Tai doesn’t answer, and takes him to eat something instead, as Agumon was hungry. In this shot Agumon eats to his heart content next to Tai, who’s not eating at all and just watches him fondly. I love that the framing doesnt show agumon. It’s a foreshadowing of their unavoidable separation.
At the very end of the movie, Tai write in his thesis about Human and Digimon’s relationship that Agumon was like a part of himself.
In a way, Agumon symbolizes childhood, the carefree days we would spend as a kid, with our big dreams and hopes. When you grow up, you tend to forget those simple emotions because you get swallowed into the stress of studies, figuring out your carreer, your life path. Just like us, Tai forgot this part of himself. In the madness of growing up, he lost Agumon.
However, it’s not the end. He will pick himself back up. He will move forward in life despite his worries and incertainities, and he will find himself again. Therefore, he will find Agumon again. The kids in the illustration are waving goodbye, but it’s not goodbye, it’s a see you later.
In the meantime, Tai is holding on to these precious memories, until they meet again.
#Digimon#Digimon adventure#Yagami Taichi#Digimon adventure : last evolution kizuna#illustration process#kinda analysis#listen im actually writing this for myself#I spend 4 days on that illu with a lot of feels and I need to write them down#This is basically what my close friends have to endure each time I get an obsession
222 notes
·
View notes
Text
destiel fic recs pt.7
part 1 | part 2 | part 3 | part 4 | part 5 | part 6
i know, this is insane, but here we are again
the return policy (13k, e, au) semi-canon ‘verse, librarian cas. very poetic!
ceramic figurines (4k, t) post 12.01. so tender. read it.
no other worthy quest (15k, e) post-Michael
bring up the deep (22k, e) very atmospheric story. horror, but no mcd. i’m usually not a big fan of sex pollen, but here. wow. it’s really something. and illustrations!
a certain light (24k, t, au) my new eternal love. cas works at the gas-n-sip. dean works at sandover and thinks his office is haunted. such a melancholic fic.
he thought he was reckless (8k, m) dean needs to be a caretaker. cas lets him
gone through the glass again series (4k, t) ‘a three part love letter to castiel gayngel of the lord’, outsider pov
mary winchester, working on it (9k, t) dean thinks mary is trying to come out as a lesbian, so funny
it’s not like that (30k, t) good and believable post-canon fic. a lot of found family! what they deserve, really
between a rock and a hard place (24k, t) this is brilliant. let me quote the author: “if supernatural had let dean be impotent for longer than the six days in between episodes, he would’ve solved every single one of his personal problems’. it’s actually not as silly as it sounds. must read.
r/supernatural (3k, g) dean’s story on reddit. amazing.
we’ll find a new home (7k, g) scene at costco made me cry. sue me.
no sincerer love (15k, t) dean cooks for cas. a lot. that’s it. that’s a fic. read when sad. don’t read when hungry. haha.
dean winchester and the stolen tupperware (35k, e, au) you know, i have this obsessive idea that dean and nathan drake from uncharted are the same character in different fonts (he even has a brother sam too lol). this. this is it. this dean is my dreams come true.
you’re fooling yourself (13k, t) dean and cas retire together to rise baby jack.
that red skirt (5k, m) non-binary dean my beloved
epistolary (9k, t) cas leaves dean post-it notes.
he knows where he should go (3k, m) post 12.10. how can you make me feel SO MUCH in 3k words, i don't know. there is temporary mcd. be aware. it’s written long before 12.23 and obviously 15.18. but it resonates so well now! some authors are real prophets.
hope and clay (20k, e) case fic that kept me excited till the end. it happens not so often.
ours is the fire, all the warmth we can find (6k, m) not obvious way to save cas from the empty. i loved it.
how to be a better friend (5k, m) what if cas came out before confessing to dean
phone a friend (6k, g) outsider pov. post-canon. very good OCs. i really got involved in their story.
coffeeshop au (6k) such a plot twist! don’t wanna spoil, read it!! i adore this one
welcome to new york (3k, g) subway meet cute fic.
dean winchester really needs to make some gay friends (2k, m) dean has come to the realization
#destiel fanfiction#destiel#deancas#destiel fic rec#destiel fic#fics#spn fic rec#fic rec list#my fic recs
349 notes
·
View notes
Text
wonder egg priority, episode 5, “the girl flautist” analysis below the cut
tw: paedophilia, suicide, beauty standards (thinness, fatphobia, colorism/racism, youth)
FUCKING FINALLY WE GET SOME INFO ON NEIRU
neiru’s weapon
so neiru’s weapon happens to be a combination weapon. i’ve discussed previously that the weapons seem to correlate to each girls’ life--i’ve even discussed specifically they could be coping mechanisms.
stay with me here, but i honestly think neiru could be an assassin. we know so little about neiru’s life up to this point, and it was very briefly mentioned how her sister died at the very end of the episode.
as mentioned in the episode, neiru was stabbed by her sister, before she jumped off the bridge to her death. its unknown /why/ this happened, but i have a guess, which will be discussed later.
anyway, neiru’s coping mechanism after her sister’s death has been to fight more. she said specifically she isn’t saving wonder eggs to save her sister, she’s doing it for herself, so she doesn’t have to live with the pain of forgetting about her (literally and metaphorically). the weapon is a combination sword/gun--gun for assassination? and sword to commemorate her sister stabbing neiru.
neiru’s wonder killer quotes
so up to this point, i’ve made it pretty clear that i think even if the wonder killer’s are the wonder eggs’ specific abusers, the killers are also very closely linked to each girls’ own trauma as well. during both of neiru’s wonder egg scenes, there were some specific quotes that caught my attention that could point toward neiru’s backstory a little more and provide motive behind neiru’s sister’s death.
the first wonder killer briefly spoke about the egg’s parents not loving her, and that only he could ever love her (grooming). but this also points to a very specific trauma--possibly neglect for this egg. and as mentioned previously, the girls’ are probably working through their own traumas as they save the eggs. its quite possible that neiru and her sister faced a lot of neglect in the household (which would make sense, considering neiru has inherited a large company--her parents being rich/powerful would be significant support for such an inference). this wonder egg also spoke about capitalism, which i found really interesting, considering much of the stories up to this point haven’t really mentioned... capitalism.
quite honestly, i’m not sure how to take this into the context of trauma, but it could also lead into some of the beauty standards trauma talked about later in the episode. i suppose, though, that this sort of line could point to the fact that beauty standards are very capitalist-motivated. its within the realm of tell women they aren’t good enough naturally, so they must spend all their money on looking young.
now that i think about it, i kinda wanna delve into the beauty standards controversy that’s been going on in the fandom.
neiru’s next wonder egg broaches the subject of beauty standards. in this scene, neiru is being tormented by both the wonder egg /and/ the wonder killer. the wonder egg belittles neiru for continuing to live, when she could die young and beautiful.
i think a really important key word in this killers quote is “fairest.” often, people tend to read it as “most beautiful.” but, given the context of this being in neiru’s scenes who is the dark-skinned girl of the ensemble, its important we read more closely into this quote. what its really asking is “who is the /lightest/ of them all” specifcally to denote that lightness = beauty.
the colorism that /should/ be read into this scene is compounded by the fact that the egg berates neiru for the state of her hair, asking if she does “hair treatments” and that her hair has gotten “damaged.” this could directly point to some other traumas neiru has experienced irl, too. up to this point, no other girls’ appearance has been specifically commented on like this. i want to point out that literally the scene just before this, rika was tickling neiru. neiru’s reaction was to laugh, because she /somewhat/ trusts rika.
the juxtaposition between being touched affectionately, and being touched to be criticized is incredibly important in this scene and can definitely point to some of the background we have yet to uncover into neiru’s past.
in terms of neiru and her sister: my line of thinking is both girls’ parents were absent, but when their mother (specifically mother, because this egg is the one repeating the beauty “advice” rather than a male wonder killer) was around, she probably belittled the girls about their appearances.
i don’t think neiru’s sister’s age was mentioned, but i have a feeling she was older, given there was a lot of emphasis on age in this particular scene with this wonder egg. perhaps neiru’s sister had finally decided 1 of 2 possibilities:
1) enough was a enough. she was miserable and wanted a way out. but this doesn’t explain why she would stab neiru or
2) neiru’s sister was probably of the same mind as this wonder egg--kill yourself while you’re young so you can stay beautiful forever. neiru’s sister was probably so enticed by this idea, that she felt she was doing neiru a favor by stabbing her (hoping it would kill her, too).
the controversy behind the beauty standards of this particularly series is that... everyone is thin, young, etc. And I absolutely agree that is the case for this series. HOWEVER, i do not think its controversial. i think the creators are using a very specific medium to drive home points about racism/colorism, paedophilia, beauty standards, fatphobia, etc. Most of the wonder killers have been... paedophiles to all of the girls in the show up to this point (eggs included). i think this show specifically tackles a lot of the issues people don’t /think/ it tackles.
for instance, the girls are children. they’re small, frail, “helpless”. All of these are characteristics that paedophiles look for in a “victim.” this series specifically calls out the traits in our society that are deemed “valuable” or “attractive” as they are /very/ childish traits (flat chests, thin legs and arms, small stature, meek personality, youthfulness, etc.)
that’s just my 2 cents on the situation though. i think this anime does an incredible job at tackling a lot of these difficult subjects. no it isn’t perfect, but i think that’s actually realistic--real life, real /trauma/ is messy and there’s no one /right/ way to talk about it. i think this anime does a fantastic job highlighting the different ways different people talk about it, excuse it, resolve it, think about it, etc. i think that’s the beauty of healing. the fact that we can all sit here and argue about the validity of what this anime has been illustrating is an act of healing.
anyway, this is long enough and it ended up being more of a neiru character analysis more than an episode analysis, lol. but i really love her character and i can’t wait to see where she goes from here. i am absolutely in love with the mystery of her background.
27 notes
·
View notes
Text
“Give all you have and follow Me”
Dear anon,
You asked me, in the course of asking about another of Jesus’s parables, “also when he says that you cannot be a desciple without giving up everything we own.. like are we actually meant to give up everything we physically own?”
Since you asked about a parable in Luke, I’ll quote Luke’s account of this interaction also. Google tells me it’s found in Luke 18:18-30:
“And a ruler asked him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. You know the commandments: ‘Do not commit adultery, Do not murder, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honor your father and mother.’” And he said, “All these I have kept from my youth.” When Jesus heard this, he said to him, “One thing you still lack. Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.” But when he heard these things, he became very sad, for he was extremely rich. Jesus, seeing that he had become sad, said, “How difficult it is for those who have wealth to enter the kingdom of God! For it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.” Those who heard it said, “Then who can be saved?” But he said, “What is impossible with man is possible with God.” And Peter said, “See, we have left our homes and followed you.” And he said to them, “Truly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or wife or brothers or parents or children, for the sake of the kingdom of God, who will not receive many times more in this time, and in the age to come eternal life.”
The question, I think, is “is it wrong for a Christian to own things?”
The short answer is “no.” The longer answer is you have to use Scripture to interpret Scripture; that is, passages like this one have to be understood within the greater context of Scripture as a whole. What else does the Bible have to say about owning things? and particularly about Christians owning things?
I’ll pull out a few things from the New Testament for you, since one might perhaps make the argument that Old Testament wealth was under the Old Covenant and not the New Covenant.
Joseph of Arimathea comes to mind. He was a wealthy man who gave up his tomb to bury Christ’s body. Nowhere in the text does anything indicate that Jesus had a problem with him being rich. In fact, because he was rich, he could afford a tomb.
Acts 4:34-37 illustrates the Christian attitude toward possessions well, I think:
“...and there was not a needy person among them, for as many as were owners of lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold and laid it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need. Thus Joseph, who was also called by the apostles Barnabas (which means son of encouragement), a Levite, a native of Cyprus, sold a field that belonged to him and brought the money and laid it at the apostles’ feet.”
But does this mean we must sell what we have and donate it to the church? Well, no.
Further on in Acts, 16:14-15 to be specific, we learn of a woman who took the apostles into her home. “One who heard us was a woman named Lydia, from the city of Thyatira, a seller of purple goods, who was a worshiper of God. The Lord opened her heart to pay attention to what was said by Paul. And after she was baptized, and her household as well, she urged us, saying, “If you have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come to my house and stay.” And she prevailed upon us.”
Nothing is said of Lydia selling her home or her business. Purple, in Biblical/Roman times, was a very expensive dye, so mentioning that she sold purple goods was a way of saying she was rich. And she used the wealth to practice hospitality and to give the apostles a place to stay. She’s never mentioned again in the Bible.
There’s also James 4:13-15, one of my favorite passages:
“Come now, you who say, “Today or tomorrow we will go into such and such a town and spend a year there and trade and make a profit”— yet you do not know what tomorrow will bring. What is your life? For you are a mist that appears for a little time and then vanishes. Instead you ought to say, “If the Lord wills, we will live and do this or that.”“
James doesn’t condemn people for trying to make money; he reminds them that everything we have comes from the Lord.
So. I could go through more passages, but I’m trying to condense a book into a tumblr post, so let’s just summarize how I understand the Bible’s teaching on owning stuff overall and Jesus’s point in this passage.
The rich young ruler came to Jesus asking what he could do to earn salvation. Jesus reminded him that no one is good and reminded him of the Ten Commandments, to which the ruler answered that he’d kept all of them.
That’s a heck of a claim to make. James says, “For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it,” and Paul says something similar in...Romans?
Personally, I fail the First Commandment daily: “Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.”
You wanna know how many times I fail to prioritize God as I should? Enough times to make me grateful that He is a God of grace.
Yet Jesus doesn’t call him out on the height of this claim. He doesn’t even choose now to elevate the Law as He does in the Sermon on the Mount, when He equated hatred to murder. (I’m screwed on that count.) Instead, He tells the ruler that the only thing he needs to do to be righteous, to earn heaven, is to give up his wealth.
Jesus is God. God knows all things, including our thoughts. I’m convinced that Jesus knew already how the ruler would respond to this challenge. He knew that the ruler loved his wealth and what he had more than he loved and desired God.
That’s really it, anon. What do you love most in this world? What are you willing to give up for the sake of the Lord? If obeying God meant breaking up with your s/o, would you? If obeying God meant telling the truth when it would hurt you to do so, would you? If obeying God meant sacrificing some creature comforts?
There’s a pastor named Brad Bigney who preached a sermon series and wrote a book, both titled “Gospel Treason.” Bigney defines idolatry (or having a god before the Lord) as “anything you are willing to sin to get, or you are willing to sin to keep.”
If being rich or owning something is more important to me than anything else in the world, that’s a problem. That is a sin. That is what Jesus condemns in this passage.
Everything we have, from the breath in our lungs to the money in our bank account to the people in our lives, is a gift from God. Everything we have ultimately returns to God. There’s nothing wrong with me having money. In fact, it’s a very good thing that I do because I’m able to use that money for God. This isn’t my money; it’s God’s money. So when I make decisions about what to buy or not buy, I make those decisions to honor God to the best of my ability.
My parents bought a boat and a vacation home. They’ve used that boat and that home to bless other Christians: to take them out on the bay and to give them a beach getaway that would otherwise be too expensive. My parents have used their wealth and their physical possessions to feed souls and bring rest to the weary.
Nice clothes, books, quality furniture: there’s no sin in having these things. Indeed, owning something that will last for many years is usually a wiser use of money than buying something cheap that will need replacing, though it’s not always a feasible choice for people.
It always comes back to the heart: what do you value? What do you trust? Are you secure because you have money in the bank? Or are you secure because you trust Jesus when He says He will provide for what we need?
If you lost everything tomorrow and you were out on the street with the clothes on your back, could you say with the apostle Paul, “I have learned in whatever situation I am to be content. I know how to be brought low, and I know how to abound. In any and every circumstance, I have learned the secret of facing plenty and hunger, abundance and need. I can do all things through him who strengthens me.“?
18 notes
·
View notes
Text
So uh, this is my first time posting a review. Its more me making comments/my own opinions.
First of all, its very.. cheesy. And if you like that kind of thing, then thats okay! I just kinda grew up with, if its. cheesy its laughable.
I wouldn't recommend it if you're looking for more lore or fights. While it does have fights, its.. silly. And i realize that it is based on the original show, and is the original manga, so of course its a bit silly.
The cover art is very nice, but to be honest I don't know some of them, I recognize Optimus Prime, Megatron, Hot Rod, and Ultra Magnus, but the rest are unknown to me.
I am just going to say, I don't like Kenji. I don't care for humans interacting with transformers, much less a child who can call them at any time of day and is a ☆Hero☆ now all because the autobots saved him.
Anyways! Mostly i'm just going to put my favorite quotes from it here:
Optimus: "We are Transformers From America"
Autobots/Optimus(?): "Transforming Attack!"
Soundwave: "We've got you now, Autobot Shrimp!" (Favorite one)
Bumblebee: "Take That! Bumble Kick!"
Megatron: "Feast your eyes on the power of my super Megatron gun form!" (He's a gun still, but he is bigger ?)
Optimus and Ultra Magnus: "Prime and Magnus Double cross Kiiiick!"
Perceptor(?): "There it is, Kenji! Utopia Island! Us Autobots created it! It's a paradise where birds and beasts can enjoy themselves! We made sure that all of the Animals of the world could live together in peace! Its our plan to call all the world's children here to enjoy it." (Theres so much wrong with this)
I'm going to take moment for the "Final chapter" (it goes onto Hot rod and gang next, so not final). I didn't like this one at all. It makes no sense, and is very short and quick. Basically, the Decepticons are chasing and bullying a Dog. Which is awful anyways but, this is actually a robot dog, i believe, or not a earth organic one anyways. But basically it was meant to do something to the autobots, but the other decepticons... hurt it. And when the autobot does save it, it sacrifices its energy for said autobot, and passes away. It was dumb.
Also my bad, it goes onto Rodimus Prime, and gang.
Force Ghost Optimus: "Rodimus, you're the new leader of the autobots! Never lose hope!"
Galvatron is obsessed with his SF Gun
Random five Megatrons... Oookay. Ohhhh Galvatron made them.
Everyone has a crush on Rodimus, they are all blushing so you can't tell me no.
Trypticon: "Dino Headbutt!" A few moments later. "Fire all Dino-Blasters!"
Rodimus: "Rodimus crash!"
Galvatron: "Galvatron kick!"
Rodimus: "Rodimus kick!"
Star Scream was possessing Optimus' dead body.
Rodimus and Gang; "We did it! That was the autobot special omnidomino attack!"
Kenji hasn't been seen since the "Final chapter" so far.
Daniel and Spike finally showed up!
So many Darn's, that i wish they could say damn or fuck at this point.
Who the hell is WeirdWolf
Some lovely illustration works c:
And that was that! My opinions remain the same, but i will absolutely be picking up the second and third one whenever i can!
The illustration works make it worth it, honestly! Its a good read if you have nothing else to do, and just wanna look at some robots fight.
They are more like short stories, so I wouldn't rush-read this like i did. I give it a 6/10
5 notes
·
View notes
Note
Jonsas try to delude themselves with the show. Jonryas with (misplaced) book quotes. The Jonrya quotes like "“What do you know of my heart, priestess? What do you know of my sister?” are very beautiful, and represent a deep FAMILYbond. They don't represent romance, or Jon wanting to fuck his sister. Ya'll are some sick fucks for turning a sibling relationship into a sexual one, and are deluded JUST LIKE Jonsas.
(Cont.d) and by the way, don't dump Jonerys together with those 2 these trash ships. Jon and Dany will meet first as man and woman, they won't have the aunt/nephew relationship, so it won't be as gross as Jonsa/Jonrya. They will be canon, romantic, complicated and sexual in a way your ship will never. So don't compare the two.
Ok, this is gonna be a long one. Strap in kids, there’s a lot of bullshit to unpack here.
There is no delusion amongst the jonryas, hun. We have so much evidence to back us up, five books worth of it, the most painfully obvious being ADWD. Jonsas have absolutely nothing to their ship besides a few, so-called “romantic” looks on the show and the (wrong) assumption that Jon likes traditionally feminine women. None of our book quotes are misplaced. They either show how much they love each other as siblings, or how much they are going to love each other romantically.
Now, as you say it represents a “family” bond, I thought I would test that theory, and ask my brother whether he would ever refer to me as “his heart”. What follows is his (and my father’s) genuine response:
Brother: *looks at me quizzically* “No”
Dad: “That’s a little weird for a brother and sister, isn’t it?”
I also asked my brother if he would ever refer to me as “his bride”. He said: “No. Not even dad would call our mum that.”
So, even for my happily married parents, it was considered weird to use the term “bride”, and it certainly felt weird for both of us for my brother to call me “his heart”. Doesn’t seem like much of a “family” bond, does it? This is extremely romantic language that my family members would never use, so there’s no way Jon would use it just to say how much he loves her as a sister. If you look at his language about Robb, arguably the sibling he loved second best, it is hugely different.
“I never wanted this, he thought as he stood before the blue-eyed king and the red woman. I loved Robb, loved all of them . . . I never wanted any harm to come to any of them, but it did. And now there's only me.” - ASOS Jon XI
That morning he called it first. "I'm Lord of Winterfell!" he cried, as he had a hundred times before. Only this time, this time, Robb had answered, "You can't be Lord of Winterfell, you're bastard-born. My lady mother says you can't ever be the Lord of Winterfell." - ASOS Jon XII
“Jon flexed the fingers of his sword hand. The Night's Watch takes no part. He closed his fist and opened it again. What you propose is nothing less than treason. He thought of Robb, with snowflakes melting in his hair. Kill the boy and let the man be born. He thought of Bran, clambering up a tower wall, agile as a monkey. Of Rickon's breathless laughter.” - ADWD Jon
It’s a far cry from talk of “hearts” and “brides”, and these are the good memories. There are some bad ones too. With Arya, there are apparently no bad memories. Jon and Arya are playing in a whole other league to the rest of their siblings. It’s not platonic anymore, sweetie. It was at one point, but going forward it’s romance or bust and that fact is undeniable.
Who in their right mind hears “What do you know of my heart, priestess? What do you know of my sister?” “Is she my sister? Was she ever?” “Would you bed your sister? [...} Longspear’s not your brother.” “Would that he could crush Ramsay Bolton’s throat as easily.” “Bring her home, Mance. I saved your son from Melisandre, and now I am about to save four thousand of your free folk. You owe me this one little girl.” “I have no sister.” The words were knives.” “The girl smiled in a way that reminded Jon so much of his little sister that it almost broke his heart.” “I want my bride back... I want my bride back... I want my bride back...” and thinks “Oh, they’re only siblings. There’s nothing romantic here at all.” Really, queen?
Come on, gurl. This is how you talk to strangers on the internet? Really? I don’t want you anywhere near any of these characters. It’s really embarrassing that you think this is ok. Seriously. I’m embarrased for you. This was my face when I read this:
Also, Jon clearly does want to fuck his sister, but not whilst she’s still 11, and none of us are hoping that they do. We are just stating facts. Their relationship is no longer just familial, and when they’re older, their relationship will reach it’s natural conclusion. We all love their sibling relationship, we’re just not blind to the facts. We’re not the ones who “turned” the relationship romantic, or “want it to”, the writing did that for us. We’re just along for the ride. I will also point you to the original outline, which has not been completely scrapped, which states “Jon and Arya’s passion will continue to torment them until Jon’s parentage reveal in the last book.” Once again, the author and his writing does our work for us. I could go on for hours about the foreshadowing, romantic implications and tension and all sorts that points to Jonrya, but other people have done this so many times so, learn to read.
We are not deluded, we have the story and the characters to back us up, and no one deserves to be called a “sick fuck” for shipping fictional characters. You need to evaluate your priorities if you think any of this has any impact on real life.And this is very ironic that a jonerys shipper is coming for me about “iNcEsT iS bAd.” Let me spell it out for you, in case you had not noticed:
YOUR SHIP IS AUNT AND NEPHEW! If you wanna start comparing how “gross” or “imoral” ships are, yours is biologically way worse. I don’t care about that, but you brought it up.
Claiming these jonrya quotes represent a “family” bond is like watching The Borgias, hearing “I promised you a heart, sister.” “Whose? Your own?”, “And if… my husband proves ungallant?” “I shall cut his heart out with a dinner knife and serve it to you”, “The only thing that never tires me is you. … Can you tell me why we’re cursed with this feeling that feels so natural, and good? When we’re together, God seems to sit in the room with us. And when you’re away, I manage to forget you. And then…one touch of your hand and God comes rushing back” and “You will be naked, clean, and bloodless again. And mine,” and then claiming that Cesare and Lucrezia “oNlY hAvE a FaMiLy BoNd.” Come on, gurl.
As to your words about Jonerys, I can only disagree. Now, they do not know they are related, this is true, but given that how will it be more complicated than Jonrya? There are no taboos, no angst, and that just makes them boring. And don’t bring up the fact that they’ll find out he’s a targ, cause that will cause conflict between him and Arya. I’ve already illustrated why Jonrya is and will be both romantic and sexual. So, basically, your ship has nothing ours doesn’t have, and it in fact has less. We have 5 books of build up and actual interaction. You have foreshadowing, I’ll admit, and I know they will meet and work together, but there is very little indication of a romance. Meanwhile, if you’re still not convinced, maybe re-read the series cause I think you missed some things.
Hun, I would never group Jonerys/ Jonsa with Jonrya, because there’s one thing we have that you two don’t...
We’re canon. 😎
Bye, Felicia!
#neve has mail#asoiaf#jonrya#jon x arya#jon snow#arya stark#again NOT anti jonerys stans#cause i'm friends with you guys mostly#but damn#crazies every where#looks like the bus to the insane asylum dropped this one by accident#someone come pick up your friend!#she's lost and confused and harrassing strangers on the internet#god i hope she doesn't fall and can't get back up#cause i assume she is elderly with her purist views#(jk i do hope that)#i'm don with ya'll#anyway stan the king and queen in the north for clear skin#and they cool aunt friend dany who's just here to be supportive
64 notes
·
View notes
Text
BNHA Rewatch: Episode 46 “From Iida to Midoriya”
mysterylover123
In which I rant a lot about Iida and then instantly forgive him.
Mina trying to piece all this together is so cute.
Iida’s rage in this episode kinda tics me off, mostly because I feel like he misses the difference between what he did and what Todoroki and Kiri and Deku want to do. Iida went after Stain to get revenge, and Stain specifically chastised him for failing to try and rescue Native. What these three want to do is try and save a life, not take one. Yes, the law in BNHA’s verse doesn’t distinguish - but there is a difference. This makes it feel like Iida took the wrong lesson from the Hero-Killer arc - that what he did wrong was breaking the law, not getting caught up in revenge.
Yes, yes, that black and white mentality is fun and all, Tsu, but to quote a certain famous person, “An unjust law is no law at all”. And this situation just isn’t as black and white or straightforward as she makes it out to be. Both Iida and Tsu pissed me off in this scene a bunch, because they just don’t seem to get it. Of course, that could just be because I agree with Deku and back him in everything he does.
“You’re probably the most frustrated of all” WOW even Kirishima sees how in love with Kacchan Deku is.
OHNO MY BB IS SO WRECKED AND HURT CAUSE HE’S ALWAYS HURTING HIMSELF WITH HIS POWERS. Deku why you gotta make me sad like this?
And Kota’s letter omg it’s so sweet Kota ilu
Poor freaking Inko her life is so hard now and Deku is so hurting Aw this arc is so many feels.
Momo, of course, has the power in her hands to decide if she wants to enable this, and she chooses to do so.
Even against all that persuasion to the contrary, Deku still comes to help. I LOVE HIM.
Iida, this is the only time in the series that you really piss me off, and I ultimately forgive you, so I hope you wont’ take this personally, but...
FUCK YOU MAN. Seriously, Deku is half dead and devastated and hurting, and you’re hitting him like this only to assuage your own feelings and resentment? WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?
YOU’RE GIVING TODOROKI ENDEAVOR FLASHBACKS YOU JACKASS HOW DARE YOU!?!?! LOOK AT HOW SAD YOU’RE MAKING HIM BY HITTING HIS CRUSH!
OH BOO HOO HE DIDN’T THINK OF YOUR FEELINGS WELL TOUGH LUCK BUDDY HIS BOYFRIEND GOT FUCKING KIDNAPPED BY SUPERVILLAINS HE DOESN’T HAVE TIME TO CONSIDER MUCH ELSE!!!
OK Momo assuages my annoyance by saying “I trust Todoroki” and reminding me how much I ship them. AW! She comes along because she believes in him, even if she isn’t certain what they’re doing is right.
AVENGERS ASSEMBLE
Ooh Bakugo please remind me of how much I wanna see you saved again.
This is another awesome squad in the show. Like, this team + Kacchan is basically unstoppable.
ooh More Momo concern I love her so much and don’t kid yourself Momo deep down you wanna help save the day too cause you’re a goddamn hero.
Ooh this scene with Uraraka is really, really interesting. We get so little of her stance on this whole thing, but we do know that 1. In this scene she gets Bakugo pretty well, though she does ultimately turn out to be wrong, as he allows himself too be saved. 2. She doesn’t bring this up in front of Deku, which means this subject could provide conflict between them in the future.
Todoroki wisely stocks up on food before partaking in a long rescue exercise.
DEKU IS SO ADORABLE I LOVE HIM
AH THE HILARIOUS DISGUISES OMG. I’M CRACKING UP
The Todomomo vibes are strong with this one.
DAYUM Aizawa is always hot but all slicked up and presentable and defensive of his kids Aizawa is the best and hottest Aizawa of them all.
Nice visual storytelling here.
“Come join the dark side we have cookies!”
“Take your cookies and shove em!”
“Oh come on they’re chocolate chip!”
“I hate chocolate chip.”
OK, in all seriousness, I FREAKING LOVE THIS SCENE. Deku is my favorite, but Bakugou does run him a close second, and this scene helps illustrate why. He just told the most dangerous set of characters around that he doesn’t care what they think of him. He’s a goddamn hero and he’s never gonna accept anything else.
“From Iida to Midoriya” is actually a personal favorite of mine. I think it’s a little underrated, usually seen as the calm before the storm of the Hideout Raid arc, the setup. I personally see it as a strong highlight, with some great character interactions, development and growth to boot. It’s adorable all the way through and definitely worth a rewatch, as angry as parts of it make me.
BKDK CORNER:
Think about it. His arms will be useless if he hurts them again. His mom begs him not to. His best friends all told him not to. But none of that matters. Because Kacchan is in danger. And at the end of the day, to save Kacchan, Deku’s body will move before he can even think.
He does, however, change his approach to him a little thanks to Uraraka’s words. This episode builds up to the “take my hand” scene well, as Deku realizes that Kacchan’s pride would be offended by him offering to save him. The moment where he remembers “Don’t come” really hurts my heart.
BEST GIRL MVP AWARD: Still Momo. Tsuyu and Ochako forfeited the chance to be in this arc so they’re officially out of the running until the pLE arc begins.
RANKER: The Disguises, least to most favorite
5. Iida’s - what the hell was he thinking with that fake stache? (Sorry I’m so mean to you in this recap, Iida)
4. Momo’s - it’s ok enough, but she looks like a mob wife.
3. Kiri’s - it’s cute ,and I wish he’d wear his hair down more often.
2. Deku’s - OMG someone is missing his bf and trying to imitate him, huh?
1. Shoto’s - it’s just plain sexy. Boy’s got style.
#my hero academia#season 3 episode 8#from iida to midoriya#midoriya izuku#tenya iida#momo yaoyorozu#katsuki bakugou#katsudeku#bakudeku#i guess i have a double standard#iida hits deku I yell at him#kacchan hits deku i get mad for a few seconds#and then let it go#i guess cause deku punches him back#he just sits there and takes it from iida#but bakugou he smacks right back#omg i need my bkdk reunion soon#watching this day to day hurts
66 notes
·
View notes
Text
February 1st-February 7th, 2020 Creator Babble Archive
The archive for the Creator Babble chat that occurred from February 1st, 2020 to February 7th, 2020. The chat focused on the following question:
What is the nicest thing someone has said about your story, whether its published or still a WIP?
Deo101 [Millennium]
Well, this is one I can answer right away. It's not a very straightforward answer, but I had someone reference me and my comic in an essay about reasons why they were able to love themself... It was for a creative writing class, and they just used me as an example of a greater thing (indie media)... and I only know about it because they asked me permission. but they let me read the essay, and it made me cry. I havent heard from them in a while and I really hope they're okay, but that really stuck with me in a way nothing else has. It's not really a quote, though, so the nicest comment I have recieved was "I can tell how much you love people by reading this story." It was really sweet in a way I can't quite articulate. People have been incredibly sweet to me, and I feel very blessed. I could make a long list detailing the kindness I have been shown.
LadyLazuli (Phantomarine)
Apparently Phantomarine (http://www.phantomarine.com/) has made more than one person cry already. Which, to me, is pretty darn high praise, given that I've barely begun the story
Having people find it and say "THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF STORY I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR" also hits a nerve. I know that feeling. You like certain themes/motifs and you wish someone would blend them together in just the right way. It can be magical.
And the last one is when I learned that children like it. A few have come forward so far - either in person or through their parents - and told me they loved it. It was around that age that I was building my own 'inner library' of inspirations for the comic. To know that I might be part of theirs, even in a small way, is just... the best?
Deo101 [Millennium]
that's all so incredibly nice <3
and now I wanna add to my list actually I don't want to interrupt, this is just a topic I wish I could sing from the rooftops about... I also had a student of mine (I am a teacher at a church) come out to me because he knew I would be okay with who he is. And, I have had people tell me it's inspiring to them, which kinda makes my heart melt. I'll stop now but, really I could go on and on about how open and loving people have been with me and my work, and how much it means to me.
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
Man... This is somewhat difficult for me to answer since I am so early into my comic creating journey. However, I will say that I recently got a comment on my comic Whispers of the Past (https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/whispers-of-the-past/list?title_no=191366) that made me smile. A long time reader commented that they always read my new pages twice, once on Webtoon, and again on Tapas. This really made me realize that my work has meaning to somebody other than myself, which is definitely what I need to hear when I'm doubting myself.
Mei
It's so nice reading about nice comments people have gotten and honestly... y'all deserve it!! I need to be in a better habit of commenting myself because I will promote comics to my friends for days on end but I'm too shy to leave a comment, even though I love receiving comments myself. I think the nicest comments I've received have been in combination with the conventions I was at last year. People told me that they thought the comic was funny, which I am incredibly thankful for. And one person who bought the book at the convention took the time to find it on Tapas and then comment on the latest page, saying that they'd talked to me, read the book, and that they liked it. That meant so much to me it was crazy! And another time, I was showing my book to someone at a convention and she said that she actually read the comic online, which honestly... It's so strange and surreal to me to meet anyone in real life who reads things posted online. It made my heart do smiley emoji. I think what LadyLazuli said is really right, this idea that you're a small part of someone's life or inspirations or just general day is pretty amazing?! Also this one guy commented on every page week to week with the same 'vase' joke on several updates and honestly the commitment was truly astounding
kayotics
I think some of the nicest comments come from one specific reader, who has mentioned a couple times that going back and reading the comic has helped them through some tough times. There was also one person who went to the effort of contacting me after their books were damaged from flooding, and wanted to buy new books to replace the old ones. This was wild since they wanted to do something so inconvenient (paying with cash by mail, and I didn't even have an online storefront in the first place) to replace the books.
twothirty
really early on i had 1 reader that would leave in-depth analysis of some character interactions and they were were spot on and made me really feel like people cared about this story . The other interaction that really stands out was doing the convention circuit last year I had a reader come up to say hi, and usually that interaction is just "i love your comic!" (which is amazing) but he also then talked to me at length about the story and again it was this feeling of just knowing someone out there cares about what you're doing. Comics feels particularly isolating so interactions like that really keep me going.
Funari (Raison d’Etre)
I've had two different readers tell me our comic has brought them joy during bad days. Sadly one of them I haven't heard from in 2 years and they were going through some rough times. I hope they're okay
Nutty (Court of Roses)
The nicest thing I've heard was when my coworker told me him and his daughter were reading it, and he told me that she's "drawing like me" with panels and stuff and keeps asking him "how do i make the bubbles" So they're gonna work on that and then he's gonna show it to me.
keii4ii
Any time someone gets what I'm trying to do with the story. I have a great fear of getting good intentioned people trashing the most important parts of my story (without realizing their importance). So whenever someone gets what the story is all about, whether as a whole or just one scene, it's a huge weight off my chest. Legit brings tears to my eyes. Even if I manage to overcome that fear some day, comments like that would mean a lot to me. Being understood has always been very important to me.
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
Someone recently said they wanted to get a tattoo of something in the comic and that was cool. It also means a lot when people respond well to the jokes in the comic because I put a lot into the writing to make it funny. I hope it makes someone cry someday Joe Is Dead http://joeisdead.com/read
DanitheCarutor
Ffff all my readers have been so compassionate, it's jarring! In a nice way! Choosing one nice thing is hard, every comment has been nice. I guess the most flattering is when a someone takes the time to go back to the previous chapters to link little things up with the current events in the story, or when they manage to remember in spite of how webcomics update so slowly. There was a comment I saved a while back where someone remembered a small thing in chapter 3 and was doing some brainstorming with it relating to the current chapter at the time.
Every so often someone also leaves a paragraph with some of the most motivational gushing, it's so nice! Oh! Also, there have been a few people who've asked me to print my comic so they can have a physical copy (which I'm slowly starting to do), which is super motivating knowing a couple people like my depressing comic enough to want to own a copy of it.
keii4ii
Oh man, I too have saved screenshots of some of my favorite comments, but I don't wanna share them because 1) some of them are long and 2) maybe the commenters wouldn't want their names disclosed in a different context? They are great to save for a rainy day, though!
Tuyetnhi
Oh this is hard I remember one comment on tapas that they got their aunt and cousin reading it and I was flattered! Most comments I got were about the artstyle and progression of the story, which I hope to continue if school lets me. Still, I'm quite surprised that it drove someone to get their family to read a romance about someone's dream lover lmao
also same keii!
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
Honestly, I have far too many comments I should screenshot. But so many of them are praising the art, and I never know how to feel about it. Like, those types of comments make me happy, but I never know how to truly feel about them.
keii4ii
Art is admittedly easier to comment on. If I'm commenting on art on anyone's comic, I try to point out how it contributes to the storytelling, rather than "ooh pretty and shiny." Pretty and shiny is valid but I'd be just doing illustrations if that were my main goal!
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
But if 9/10 comments are, "Wow, the art is so pretty!" I can't really react to it much, especially since my own self-doubt is constantly reminding me of my mistakes.
FeatherNotes(Krispy)
I've been really excited to answer this question because it gives me an opportunity to thank any and all the fans and people who celebrate our work. I've been so humbled by all of the wonderful and amazing fanart we've received, music paired with scenes from our comic, and fans even imagining scenarios of the characters themselves-- I'm constantly blown away! I do have my most treasured moment however, and that was when we were tabling at TCAF a couple years back. We had been swamped with crowds, selling, and early mornings-- it was a long day! That was until we had one person who went through the trouble to see us in person, and handcraft a drawing to deliver to us, saying thank you, and in that moment I bawled!! They quickly left after us thanking them so much, and I'll never forget that and how much it gave us a fire to see this whole project through. We have it framed and it sits in front of our cpu
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
I got one comment where someone said that one of my main characters "seems sweet," and it just left me confused because, a) he's only said about ten words total, and b) in those ten words, he has somehow managed to be rude.
So how is he sweet???
But I mean, I should be happy that he seems likeable despite his attitude and reticence
Tuyetnhi
nice lmao
I do agree about the comments about the artwork being pretty and idk how to repond other than thanks lmao(edited)
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
Yep
That's pretty much all I can say
Because I would HOPE my art looks pretty good after a decade drawing haha
Tuyetnhi
tho tbh because of the nature of my comic, I do get the occasional thirst comment and I'm just sitting there bawling
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
Oh yeah, I get those
Tuyetnhi
"Wow he's buff"
"yea bc I made him like that lmao"
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
People drooling about my male MC mainly
It's so awkward, but I knew it would happen
Tuyetnhi
same, but for the male love interest and i'm like "this is expected lmao"
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
I KNEW WHAT I WAS DOING
keii4ii
I get like 0 thirsty comment despite one of the MCs being an athletic cat dude with literal secret tentacles (I'm okay with not getting a lot of thirsty comments, but I do find it interesting)
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
I've gotten thirsty comments and my comic is not meant to be romantic or sexy at all
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
Oh, I can leave you some thirsty comments
I love Lu
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
I was going to say they are inevitable(edited)
but kei proved that wrong
Tuyetnhi
same I love Lu too lmao
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
And will gladly praise his hotness
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
if your comic goes on for long enough, i think you will get some eventually. it is a rule of the internet
keii4ii
It's been ongoing since Nov 2014 XD But I guess it takes longer for some than others!
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
@keii4ii I don't think you quite understand
I have never been attracted to animal-people before
I have always found anthros and such weird
And yet
Lu is totally my thing
Tuyetnhi
Strangely attractive for a cat guy lol
points for those who get the ref
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
how do you guys know what their comic is?
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
He is way too attractive
keii4ii
Mine? Cronaj and Tuyetnhi came across it outside this Discord, I believe!
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
Yep
I have been reading it for a few years now
Although I can't say exactly when, because HoK has been a part of my life for so long
Tuyetnhi
I think I started reading it a year or 2 ago lol
DanitheCarutor
@keii4ii The only nice thing about Webtoons is that there aren't any profiles to check, so you can't look up fans via their comments. Also if you did Google their username there isn't a guarantee whoever you find would be that Webtoons user without them telling you. Lmao! About the thirsty comments, I used to get them a lot of Webtoons. There was this one scene where my smaller MC pulled the taller one to their face to say "Your friend is dead", before shoving him away and walking off. Some of my readers went wild! They wanted the two MCs to make-out so bad, even though the scene clearly had no romantic chemistry... or even the entire comic for that matter. My thirsty bunch came off really desperate and reaching at times.
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
Omg, that's just precious
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
I really have never gotten thirsty comments, with the exception of one or two very mild 'Oh, that character is attractive' comments. But I think my comics just don't really attract thirsty readers. Of course, I rarely get any reader feedback, so that's probably part of it.
keii4ii
@DanitheCarutor Yeah, that's a plus about the semi-anonymity! My screenshots are from less anonymous places, so yeah. Some are also from like... Discord, where the person may not even have expected the comment to be archived in any way. (Sometimes I actually asked if I could screenshot, but I don't know if I asked every time...)
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
No one has ever reported finding my characters attractive
Deo101 [Millennium]
People thinking my characters are hot is a pretty common thing, and usually I don't mind but... sometimes it's the bane of my existence.
It's always a little bit weird, though
every time someone is like "dat ass " I'm like alright bud keep it to urself
it's part of why I made all of my characters adults, actually
people even before I started making it, just when I was talking to them about it or showing my art would STILL be overly sexual about my characters so I aged them up where it felt less weird for me.
kayotics
I’ll get thirst comments every once in a while, usually on tapas. I don’t mind it too much, especially since I’m usually making characters that I’m also attracted to? I usually think thirst comments are funny
DanitheCarutor
Pfff I'm in a similar boat to Deo's. Usually I don't mind, but there are moments where it sucks. Like there will be a really serious, or heavy scene and someone will pop up with "Make them kiss!!", "Don't be mean to your future hubby, X! Kiss him and make up!!". It totally feels they don't actually care about the story and just want something to jack it off to. xD I don't get a whole lot of thirst anymore, which is nice. I think the vocal group lost interest after being blue-balled for 3-4 chapters. Weirdest thing, I have yet to get anyone saying my characters are attractive... well, some readers used to say Julian (my questionable looking non-binary character) was pretty but they weren't really thirsty, just observations. At least they came off like that. My style makes characters look kind of ugly, so comments about any of my cast being attractive is non-existent. @keii4ii Ooh yeah, I can see how that would be an issue. Although, if you really want to show off some super nice comments, you can also just cover or blur out their username and icon image. A lot of people do that, it's really good for keeping up the user's anonymity, and I don't think they would mind since you're not using their words slanderously.
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
Can I admit I sort of wish I got some thirsty and shipping comments? I also draw characters I think are hawt so I kinda wish my readers felt the same way. XD I don’t really want them in Ashes were my characters are teens, but in Eryl where 95% of the cast is legal age, I kinda wish some people wanted to be a little bit thirsty about it. XD
Deo101 [Millennium]
Yeah, i just wish it wasnt... Idk sometimes it seems like thats ALL people see and it makes me sad
Like theres other stuff going on...
eli [a winged tale]
I feel you too Cap’n! I sort of expected shipping comments for AWT https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/keyspace-a-winged-tale/list?title_no=322364 but yeah they’re still kids discovering themselves! When I start my adult fantasy comic (tentatively planned), then I’m all on board for sure. For the question, I love and screenshot every comment to peruse whenever I feel down. I treasure all of them but one that particularly stood out for me was a writer reimagining all their stories with my art and characters and that just about made me cry happy tears
LadyLazuli (Phantomarine)
So far the only 'thirst comments' I've gotten are when the comic gets even the slightest bit... gay I can't say my story revolves around major LGBTQ+ themes, but people have picked up on random bits of subtext between characters (which is mostly intentional on my part, not gonna lie) and specifically take time to comment on them. It makes me happy to see people reading between the lines. And it also helps me know what the readers like or are really looking for. So... yeah, I'm gonna keep on that path
eli [a winged tale]
Did I miss that in phantomarine?? Howww
LadyLazuli (Phantomarine)
The subtlest of subtle subtext... which will become far less subtle over time
Nutty (Court of Roses)
i am deliberately pushing my main ship to get ppl into it lmao
YOU WANT THESE TWO TO KISS, I PROMISE
LadyLazuli (Phantomarine)
GOSH I know this feeling too well I feel like I don't want to overwhelm the readers, but I want them to still realize "...Hmmmmmm, yeah I kinda want this."
eli [a winged tale]
I’m so intrigued now
LadyLazuli (Phantomarine)
good
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
wait i can't think of anything remotely gay/romantic in phantomarine
besides maybe
phaedra and... cheth?
eli [a winged tale]
The shipping comments in AWT are currently on point at exactly where I want them to be
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
i don't believe you would go for that, but shipping enemies is a very common fandom thing
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
I wish I had more people shipping my characters because I'm all alone in it right now
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
@Nutty (Court of Roses) I'm doing the same in Ashes. I'm being super obvious about Anor x Rava being a future couple. XD
So far I haven't really gotten any comments about it. Idk if my readers care about romance at all.
Which is okay, because I don't really write much romance into my comics.
Even though I secretly wish for a bit of shipping from readers.
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
I have to find out how visibly and obviously gay the characters have to act before people pick up on it
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
sssfrs, your comic just doesn't feel like the kind of comic people would ship characters in, though. Even the relationship between the captain and the guy that left, though lovely, feels, i don't know, too mature to really ship?
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
It's not the focus of the plot though so it's not essential just would be fun
Deo101 [Millennium]
people were shipping page 2 for me so idk
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
That's a fair way to look at it
Deo101 [Millennium]
apparently they need to be next to eachother , in my experience
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
i think the art style plays a part, too
people were shipping my characters also from page two. But I have a "prettier" style than sssfrs
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
Yeah, I think the only way readers even know my characters are queer is from the extra art I make of them for Pride month each year. On panel the gay isn't incredibly obvious.
Deo101 [Millennium]
yeah, and I do WANT people to ship them so its not like I mind. I like shippers (when they are in line with my plans)
eli [a winged tale]
Yes Deo!! Exactly
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
Some characters I think have a great dynamic but I just haven't published enough of the material that shows their chemistry yet so I can't blame anyone for not seeing it
LadyLazuli (Phantomarine)
^same for me
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
looking forward to seeing that in both your comics!
i follow both
eli [a winged tale]
That’s fair ssfrs I’m all for the slow burn
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
It's true that my goal isn't to make the characters visually attractive and appealing in that way as much as in personality and interactions
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
I do keep seeing people leave 1* ratings for Eryl on WT and I can't help but wonder if it's homophobes angry about a character sheet I shared that mentioned the character was lovingly raised by two dads. Bc there has been nothing really controversial on-panel in the comic, and I have such a small audience it has no other reason to keep attracting hate.
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
yeah, that's what i was trying to say. couldn't think of a good way to say that though. but i like your art and feel like it fits your story well
( at sssfrs)
i don't think there are a large number of homophobes on WT. If anything, there's an overabundance of the opposite- fetishists
people leave 1 star on WT for random reasons like you not updating enough
don't worry about it
eli [a winged tale]
Link your webcomics? With <> . Love to check them out
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/puppeteer/list?title_no=290620
Deo101 [Millennium]
I get a lot of fetishists, yeah....
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/dark-wings-eryl/list?title_no=287293
Deo101 [Millennium]
https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/millennium/list?title_no=110866
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
Idk, maybe they don't like that I update in traditional pages, then, Who knows
All I know is every time my ratings start crawling back up, suddenly they'll take a big hit.(edited)
Deo101 [Millennium]
idk, some people just seem to do that kinda thing
I have thought it could be other creators before, too...
trying to make less competition or something. but that would be cruel and I dont like to think someone would do that
so I prefer to think its just someone who didnt like my stuff
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
eh i prefer to think the best of people
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
It's not like I'm super successful or anything. The algorithms haven't been kind to either of my comics so I'm hardly competition.
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
i'm not going to think it's other creators
Deo101 [Millennium]
yeah that's what Im saying
like its popped in my head and then I was like literally who would do that
thatd be reaaaaal messed up
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
hey, how to i add my comic name in paren to my name on this server?
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
Unfortunately I know a lot of creators who would. They just don't hang out in spaces like these.
Deo101 [Millennium]
just edit your nickname in the options
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
Mine is called Joe Is Dead, on here http://joeisdead.com/ and on tapas https://tapas.io/series/JoeIsDead
Deo101 [Millennium]
oh right I actually have another comic. It was on hiatus over a year so I havent gotten into the habit of sharing it...
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
Yeah, go to the ... next to the server name and it opens up a menu with the 'change nickname' option.
Deo101 [Millennium]
https://tapas.io/series/Time-and-Time-again
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
I put the title in my name
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
My other comic is here on WT: https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/children-of-shadow-ashes/list?title_no=145048&page=1
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
i just don't like dismissing negative feedback. I don't want to get negative reviews and just brush them off as jealous people because i know my comic definitely has room to improve and would rather negative feedback motivate me to look for ways how
got it, thanks!
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
I love negative feedback. I want to put out the best work I can & hearing what people don't like or don't think is working helps me do that
Deo101 [Millennium]
theres constructive feedback, and then theres people telling me my characters are stupid and I think I can brush the latter off
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
Unfortunately, I have been the victim of vicious jealous reviews. I've seen a lot of ugly in the webcomic world over the many years I've been doing this. Some creators be petty.
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
@sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD) hm if i were to give negative feedback about your comic I'd say the biggest things are that you have a lot of characters that in my mind are kind of hard to differentiate, and also it can be really hard to tell where your characters are in space. But those don't matter too much, as they both will probably get better with time. Your biggest strength imo in your dialogue anyways
keii4ii
Not every negative feedback is relevant to my goals, is key for me. It's the whole "you can't please everyone" principle. My target audience does not include every person out there. If my target audience falls in love with what I make, then that's success for me. I don't need to impress the rest of the world.
keii4ii
(Thanks Tatsu.)
Deo101 [Millennium]
You have a different definition of "negative feedback" than I do.
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
who are you referring to?(edited)
Deo101 [Millennium]
You
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
in what way?
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
I can usually tell the difference between 'This person has a different idea of what this story should be than I do' and 'This person has it out for me because of jealousy or spite'
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
Yeah I've found it really hard to juggle the consistency with where characters are standing all the time. I write out lists of the order they're spatially located in an effort to keep track of them. Hopefully I'll get better with practice
Deo101 [Millennium]
the negative feedback I am talking about is basically straight up hate. Constructive criticism, pointing out the flaws of a work, isnt "negative feedback" by my definition.
so saying "I want negative feedback" means something different for you than it does for me.
i WILL dismiss people being straight up rude to me
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
hm, I feel like a lot of people define negative feedback the same way i do, constructive criticism about what you could do better. If you say you dont want negative feedback you might get people thinking you don't want critique at all. imo what you are referring to might be more clearly just called "hate"
Deo101 [Millennium]
I'll consider it if someone is trying to help, even if most of the time I ignore it
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
I also get the random 1 star ratings on Webtoon, so I think some people are just easy to hate stuff(edited)
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
yo sssfrs, you keep track of where characters are in space by writing lists??
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
These are probably also the same people who dislike videos habitually on Youtube
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
i can't imagine working with that
Deo101 [Millennium]
I actually dont want critique at all.
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
it seems so hard
Deo101 [Millennium]
not if I dont ask for it.
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
Con crit and hate aren't the same thing, though
One is genuinely trying to help you improve, the other is just trying to bring you down.(edited)
And it's okay to not want the former
Deo101 [Millennium]
and I would say "negative feedback" doesnt include con crit
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
Just because you make something doesn't mean you have to want people to give crit on it.(edited)
Yeah
I agree, because GOOD con crit is usually polite because if the person knows what they're talking about, they were where you are now and will be nice about it.
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
From my experience the best critiques come from other artists doing similar work to you
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
i don't think all negative con crit is helpful, either. people also need to know what their strengths are so they know what to keep instead of just what to remove
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
They might not even be trying specifically to be nice about it
But their words feel less hurtful
eli [a winged tale]
I feel like there are comments which are reviews (fair enough, everyone has subjective opinions) but I feel like constructive criticisms should be more private and take place in specific settings (most importantly where the creators are in a position of wanting them)
Nutty (Court of Roses)
@eli [a winged tale] https://courtofroses.spiderforest.com/
eli [a winged tale]
What I think most readers don’t understand or know is that the comic that does make its way to the public quite often has already been through rigorous critique and feedback
Nutty (Court of Roses)
(sorry, was late to that haha, i agree on your feelings about crits)
Deo101 [Millennium]
see, I dont know what you mean by "negative con crit" In my experience, a critique that is negative is not a critique and is more an opportunity for someone to flex.
helpful critiques may FEEL negative, because they are pointing out your flaws, but they arent negative
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
i think you're defining "negative" and "hateful" the same way, but other people are not(edited)
eli [a winged tale]
I call them constructive feedback. Then on the other hand, yeah there are negative comments that are there to serve the OP’s sentiments(edited)
Deo101 [Millennium]
I use constructive if it is helpful, and negative if it is harmful
eli [a winged tale]
But I just don’t think the comment platform supports the constructive feedback part. The comments currently represent the OP’s views which are very much subjective. It’s hard to know if they are providing feedback from a place of knowing story structure/art competency
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
critique does mean a lot more when I ask for it from an artist I respect
eli [a winged tale]
Indeed. It’s quite an intimate process
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
but i can still take casual comments into consideration when trying to improve
things like, it's confusing, or i don't understand what's happening
eli [a winged tale]
I think trust in the critiquer’s background and intention for you to improve are imperative(edited)
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
speaking of comments that say the comic is confusing, god i hate getting those comments the most. Because they come from people genuinely trying to read and like my comic and represent a failure of my storytelling skills
eli [a winged tale]
Plus there is a skill/art (no pun intended haha) to giving feedback. That’s a whole nother can of worms
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
but better to hear that and know it than not
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
It's not always a failure of storytelling skills, though. Some people's brains work along a certain line, and when a story is told that doesn't gel with that, it seems confusing to the person. That doesn't mean the writing was bad, it just means that the author communicates differently than the reader.(edited)
Deo101 [Millennium]
^ thats what I was gonna say
I have a small group of people who I trust who are editors, writers, or artists. I go to them to see if I'm doing the best I can for my goals.
if people get confused then there isnt too much more that I can do...
not saying my work is perfect, of course...
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
i can't just brush it off by saying I communicate differently than the reader when I'm trying to communicate to the reader
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
But not every reader is your audience, though
Nutty (Court of Roses)
^^^^
your message sometimes can't reach certain people, and that's not your fault
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
If all the readers are confused, that's one thing. If only a few are, well, your writing style just wasn't for them.
eli [a winged tale]
For sure. Agree Capn and Deo. There’s a lot of work that goes behind the scenes that readers are unaware
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
true true. But there are a few people who have said the same things, so I've taken those to heart and added dialogue that made it more clear. I don't regret that
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
Your comic is public, and it's going to be seen by a very wide variety of people with all different kinds of reading comprehension and tastes. You're never going to appeal to all of hem, and plenty won't understand what you're trying to do. But that doesn't mean what you're making is bad. It just means it, like every story, is for a particular audience.
Yeah, if it's a repeated crit, it is something to keep in mind, but just remember that incorporating a crit shouldn't change what you're trying to do, only refine it.
Deo101 [Millennium]
Ive had a couple people say "I'm confused but Im enjoying whats going on" and I dont even know what I would begin to do about that
eli [a winged tale]
I usually trust my beta readers for that. If there are confusing parts then I would ask them how to clarify that best
I think these creator based forums are best to seek feedback and see what could potentially be remedied
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
Of course. And I don't think my comic is bad. But one example was when I realized some confusion stemmed from me having a speech bubble that read, "without her," and didn't realize "her" could refer to two different characters which would make what was being said have two very different meanings. It's easy to overestimate how understandable your story is as an author that already knows everything that's going on. I think confusion is a good thing to pay attention to- I've definitely read comics before and dropped them because the author didn't pay enough attention to introducing things to the audience
(also dropped comics because they paid too much attention to introducig things but)
Deo101 [Millennium]
yes, like I said I have a small group of friends who are all writers, editors, and artists who can give me a pretty dang good beta read.
eli [a winged tale]
They are so great. Don’t know what I’d do without them
LadyLazuli (Phantomarine)
At that point I'd honestly keep going with what you have - there are several stories I've gone into with confusion, but also greatly enjoyed them, or even got less confused over time. Some readers need time to put the pieces together. So long as someone enjoys it on some level, I think that makes the comic successful. Maybe not completely - but not every comic will be everything to all people.
eli [a winged tale]
Indeed. Sometimes as well you gotta trust your story writing/art skills.
Deo101 [Millennium]
yup!
and like I'm not doing too bad for my first comic so I think I got something going for me at least.
I understand I have room to grow...
but I would like to keep that to people who I trust wont steer me wrong
eli [a winged tale]
Always room to grow for sure!
Deo101 [Millennium]
and arent just pushing what they want from me on me
eli [a winged tale]
Indeed. Feedback/ beta reading has its own set of skills. There’s always places to improve but the key is to determine specifically where that can be and how feasible(edited)
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
I remember the first time I read Unsounded, I had absolutely no idea what was going on because of how Ashley structures her world-building. But there were aspects of it that were very engaging, so I stuck with it. After finishing the archives, I went back and reread. Now that I understood what all the terms meant, it made perfect sense on the second go-round. It's now one of my favourite webcomics. Some stories are just told differently, and that's okay.(edited)
eli [a winged tale]
There’s certainly an element of trust you must put to the creators that it’ll all make sense at the end
Deo101 [Millennium]
someone got very mad at me for how I have shown my trans characters so far.. I had to explain that the story isnt done yet, and they have to trust I'll bring it up
it's a WIP and there is some trust that NEEDS to be had
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
lol I have only one artist/writer friend (struggles of working in a non-art career), and she understands everything I write exactly as I intended it and I love it. But she's my friend for a reason- we tend to think the same way and read similar things. Don't think it's wrong to try to cater to a wider audience as well
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
@Deo101 [Millennium] I wonder if anyone will react once I reveal that Anor is intersex/trans on panel. I'm really hoping I don't find out if any of my readers are transphobes -or- angry that he isn't ostentatiously trans.
Deo101 [Millennium]
someone was mad I didnt show my cyborg transitioning cause it could be so cool of a concept to see his original robot body and I was like literally none of what you said applies to him also thats kinda gross
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
Uh
Wut
Deo101 [Millennium]
YEAH
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
There might be some transphobes. But it's worth dealing with them for the people who your comic will resonate with more for having a trans character in it
Deo101 [Millennium]
alsooooo some people might be upset, but then they will leave and you will be left with better people.
Nutty (Court of Roses)
I feel like me having a non-binary character and insisting on correcting everyone who misgenders them deters transphobes away p quickly.
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
^^^ some people will dislike, but those who like will really like
and a smaller, better fanbase is better than a larger one that cares less(edited)
LadyLazuli (Phantomarine)
hear hear
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
@Eightfish (Puppeteer) I'm hoping some will resonate with him! I don't think I've ever seen any intersex rep in any story, so I really want people to know they can have a hero like them.(edited)
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
I'm trying to think of stories with intersex rep
I feel like there must be some, but I can't bring any up : /
Sazed from Mistborn is written as though he's intersex, but he clearly identifies as male and the story treating him as intersex actually feels a bit disrespectful
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
Me neither. The only thing I've seen in stories is gross 'hermaphrodite' jokes when mocking a cis character.
I really want to give positive representation.
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
webcomics have so much lgbt representation. I feel as though I must have seen an intersex character somewhere in there, but I'm not sure I have.(edited)
it feels kind of weird(edited)
I've seen characters that don't have genders because they're gods or whatnot but I feel like that's different
Deo101 [Millennium]
I mean, I have intersex characters I supposed but theyre alien genders so I also think that's different and wouldnt call them intersex
DanitheCarutor
I don't know the whole conversation, but @Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios), you'll be fine! Most transphobic people quietly leave, only the really sad, pitiful ones make a stink and their opinions are pretty laughable. If you get crap laugh in their faces like they're morons. I would also say my character Julian is intersex, but I'm not sure how much it counts since it was a recent decision I made (after doing a lot of research) due to readers headcanoning them as an intersex character.
I think I know of a couple other comics with intersex characters if you want to check out some, lemme go look through my lists.
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
@DanitheCarutor I'd love to see other comics with intersex representation! And I think Julian totally counts? I don't see a problem with reconsidering a character's sex, gender, or orientation as we become more aware of issues in the world, or even just more aware of our own characters. Webcomics are always a work-in-progress and things change as we go.
eli [a winged tale]
@DanitheCarutor I’d love to know them too!
keii4ii
Re: clarity and confusion, sometimes a small change in wording or such can improve the clarity greatly, and that's great! But I agree that reader confusion doesn't necessarily = failure in storytelling. I've published my comic first in Korean, and a much improved version in English. The cultural difference in the audience has shown to be a huge factor in terms of what's clear and what isn't, or how certain things come across. And that's just one factor.
DanitheCarutor
So I only know of one comic personally, Drop-Out! Sure the characters are anthros, and the bubbles can be hard to read, but it is one of my favorite comics! Of course it's kinda heavy so be aware of that. http://drop-out.thecomicseries.com/ Although I checked out the Webcomic Library tagpacker and found a few. (including Drop-Out) https://tagpacker.com/user/webcomic.library?t=Intersex LGBT Webcomics also has a few that aren't listed in the above list. https://tagpacker.com/user/lgbtwebcomics?t=intersex @Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios) Lol yeah, I guess so. My readers made me put a lot of thought into it, and after the research being intersex actually fits a lot better with Julian's type of gender dysphoria and confusion than when they were AAB male. It also make some small, more intimate parts of the story feel more natural? It's hard to explain, it just feels better.(edited)
keii4ii
Like, making my work as accessible as possible has never been a goal for me with this story. So to me, it's not a failure that a large number of people can't see parts of the story that aren't being spelled out. I can totally respect "I want my work to be more accessible, so if all these people are not Getting It, then I need to do a better job" as a valid stance. Just not one I'm taking. It's all about individual goals and priorities.
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
Oh boy, writing a fantasy story with a very developed culture is kinda scary, because NOBODY is going to pick up on cultural nuances except for me(edited)
Deo101 [Millennium]
I DO want my work to be more accessible/reach a wider audience, but that still doesnt mean it will be for everyone, too.(edited)
keii4ii
Not gonna lie, I get a little salty when I see someone claiming their story is "for everyone." I feel like such a claim is disrespectful to different cultures and tastes.
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
i just started drop out and damn, that's one hell of an opening
Deo101 [Millennium]
Yeah I genuinely don't think it's possible to make a story for everyone lol
like... idk literally just by making it "sci fi" that excludes many people who just don't like sci-fi
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
i've never seen anyone claiming their story is for everyone
Deo101 [Millennium]
I feel like just to get to your premise, not even your personal execution you're already super narrowing the people down who will be interested
which is fine!!! and is necessary to accept imo
keii4ii
@Eightfish (Puppeteer) I've seen it. Not often but I've definitely seen it.
I've even seen a creator accuse another person of being heartless because the person was not interested in their Very Emotional And Universally Heartfelt comic, so uhhh yeah
Deo101 [Millennium]
Ope
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
Well then
That just sounds like an illusioned creator
Deo101 [Millennium]
I kinda like to think of it like music
I dont like a lot of songs that other people love, it's not that they're bad songs just... not for me(edited)
keii4ii
Yeah! I also think the word "taste" is very fitting
Deo101 [Millennium]
yeah for sure
keii4ii
Some of us can eat ghost peppers like popcorns. Others would even avoid like... crackled black pepper
Deo101 [Millennium]
ahahhahaha
mac n cheese has a very wide audience, but some people aren't into it
DanitheCarutor
@Eightfish (Puppeteer) Lmao! Drop-Out is quite a unique piece of fiction. I have also seen creators who say their comic is for everyone, then get made when someone isn't interested.
Deo101 [Millennium]
I'm gonna start saying millennium is like mac n cheese now
keii4ii
@Deo101 [Millennium] That reminds me of "what drink would your comic be" !!
Deo101 [Millennium]
ahahahahah
someone: my comic is WATER EVERYONE NEEDS IT
keii4ii
I answered: "I want HoK to be liquid bacon fat, so that it'll stay in your heart forever."
Deo101 [Millennium]
ew LMAO
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
even if your comic is water, some people don't drink water
Deo101 [Millennium]
but cute? I gues????
DanitheCarutor
That sounds like a fun game, "If your comic were food what would it be?"
Mine would be sardine pizza, only weirdos like it.
Deo101 [Millennium]
next weeks creator babble question
LMSLDJGLASJGK
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
@DanitheCarutor its got such good art. The characters are so unique and expressive. Don't think I've seen anyone not use anti-aliasing on such detailed art before, but it works here
almost all webcomics are some weird food. We're niche just by nature
DanitheCarutor
It DOES have great art! And it gets better as you go too, by the time I reached the end then looked back on the first pages for nostalgia it was almost like night and day with the quality.
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
fuck, really? but it's so polished already
DanitheCarutor
I mean, I guess that's not something to get excited about, most webcomics get better artwise as they go. Lmao! But still!
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
i love how the about page makes this sound like a fun roadtrip adventure
Deo101 [Millennium]
this feels mayble like the wrong chat for this discussion?
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
My comic would be a latte: A lot of people like it, but some people will never like coffee.
keii4ii
I can imagine HoK being like Chung Gook Jang soup? It's 1) Korean, 2) it warms you up, 3) it is very polarizing even among Koreans. It's kinda like... imagine miso soup on ultra mega steroid. Like a vegan version of supersharp stinky cheese. And 4) I love it.
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
im alphabet soup because i have a fuckton of dialogue
Deo101 [Millennium]
I'm actually gonna stick with mac n cheese. a bit childish, but it's nice! you can do some fun things with it to shake things up, but it's still cheese and noodles.
keii4ii
Mac n cheese is amazing.
Deo101 [Millennium]
I love mac n cheese.
another reason why it's my comic! I love it, and it's something I can actually make
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
As for food, WotP would definitely something like authentic Mexican tacos. Again, generally well-received, but can be a bit intense for a lot of people
keii4ii
I really like food analogies. Sometimes it's not Gordon Ramsey you're trying to impress. Sometimes you want to make something you and/or your loved ones will enjoy, and if that's "WAY too much [ingredient]!!!!" for everyone else out there, that's not a flaw!
Deo101 [Millennium]
yeah! :D
keii4ii
That's actually good food for thought (no pun intended): what niche aspects does your comic contain? How/why are they niche?
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
@Eightfish (Puppeteer) How do you do it?
LadyLazuli (Phantomarine)
I think I once described mine as a corrupted tropical cocktail. On the surface: sweet, pretty, very colorful - but all the ingredients used to make it are rotten
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
I thought of Cricket as intersex for a long time and I still don't know exactly where I stand on that.
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
I draw a diagram of where characters/ furniture are from above. Niche things: Most conflicts are resolved through anticlimactic conversation. Also there's this huge bit about consensual mind control. I wrote the comic I'd want to read, and somehow found a few people like me to follow along
I also usually don't have more than 2 characters interacting
so it's easier for me
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
I have so many busy group scenes with people moving around. The most recent chapter was kind of a mess also because I wasn't really sure about the dimensions of the space they were all in
This scene was also pretty rushed in general
Re: intersex characters I feel like I've been shying away from that because I don't feel like I know enough about the topic to adequately represent intersex people
Joe Is Dead has a really specific aesthetic to it but I don't know how to define that niche. It's definitely something
Deo101 [Millennium]
I honestly could not answer that question about what niche things my comic contains. I don't know what about my comic is mainstream or not, I'm just making what I want to see and not really worrying about stuff like that.
keii4ii
For me, having an idea of what's niche about my comic actually lessens my worries!
It's a "okay, so I know these things are niche, which means people not liking or even getting those things =/= my failure!" kinda thing for me!
But I can also see how not thinking about what's niche or not can lessen the worries for others, too.
Deo101 [Millennium]
mhm, for me it means I can just go "well I like it anyways sooooooooo"
keii4ii
Yeah, that's the destination! We're just taking different routes to get there
Deo101 [Millennium]
I also genuinely just have a hard time determining whether or not something is niche
even if I thought about it for a while (I've been thinking about it since you asked, and I have thought about it before" I genuinely couldnt pinpoint it for you...
keii4ii
I used to beat myself up very badly every time someone didn't like a thing about my comic
Deo101 [Millennium]
D:
keii4ii
and "oh, 1) this is subjective, 2) I like it like this, and 3) my liking of it is valid" was how I crawled out of that hole
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
I don't know if my comic is specifically niche, unless you count "low fantasy" (or essentially fantasy with less magic and such) as niche
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
My comic has a lot of specific nautical and history content that you could call niche
Also surrealism
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
i would call Joe Is Dead "niche," but not WoTP
I've read both
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
I... used to think my comics weren't niche. Ohohohohoho how wrong I was!
Deo101 [Millennium]
Id say millennium isnt niche then it's basically just gay sci fi it's p straightforward
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
My comics are very, incredibly, undeniably niche.
DanitheCarutor
@sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD) It is difficult to understand if you're not intersex yourself, even though I studied a lot before making the decision about my character I still don't know if I'll represent the topic properly. The best you can really do is get into researching all the medical stuff, talk to people willing to share their experiences with being intersex, and watch videos of people talking about it from a professional and personal perspective. The hardest thing to get right about something so subjective and personal is that everyone's experiences are different, so no matter how much you research you just gotta do your best with the info you have, then figure out how your character would experience it personally.(edited)
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
I don't think anything magical happens until Chapter 11 of WotP, now that I think about it
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
Also @DanitheCarutor thank you for the links!! I'll have to give those comics a look!
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
I’m still backreading and I just saw the food question, that is great
JID would be saltcod
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
Ooooh
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
Or like pickled herring maybe
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
Bacalao
Noice
(Bacalao = Puerto Rican salted cod)
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
They have it in spain too iirc
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
Ashes would be very bitter black coffee someone forgot to drink and it's just been sitting there for two days. Eryl would be well-aged wine spiked with tabasco sauce.
DanitheCarutor
Sorry for derailing. Anyways, I feel like my entire comic is just a ball of niche? The subject matters are uncommon and the main characters are awful and unreliable, but that's my aesthetic so I'm sticking to it. I've never particularly cared about people liking my comic due growing up not being liked myself (you kinda get over it after a while), but I do like finding people like me. @Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios) No problem! I hoard stuff like that, so I probably have a link for everything.
Urm, I don't mean I like finding unlikable people like me, I mean people who like the same types of stories as me.
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
Honestly, Dani, I connect to your comic quite a lot, for what it's worth!
DanitheCarutor
Thank you! ;v; In a way it's kind of nice having a comic that doesn't fit in. It tends to stand out, especially with my choice of medium. Although at the same times it's really hard to get feedback that applies to what you're doing! Arg!
keii4ii
It is such a Struggle, for sure -- getting relevant feedback
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
I feel you! I'm in the same boat with Ashes. It's also incredibly niche and there just aren't that many pencil comics out there- coloured or graphite.
DanitheCarutor
Being a creator who likes feedback, but also likes making niche content, is so hard! Why can't everyone like niche content??
Lmao!
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
As niche as the setting and tone of Joe Is Dead are, the main story arc is a very generic hero adventure thing that I hope will appeal to wide audiences
eli [a winged tale]
Niche content
I’d love to know more! What niches are you exploring?
snuffysam (Super Galaxy Knights)
The nicest thing anyone's said about Super Galaxy Knights Deluxe R http://sgkdr.thecomicseries.com/comics/ is that they really became invested in the characters. Like, that's the kind of story I want to make - the kind where the characters really stick with you.
snuffysam (Super Galaxy Knights)
As for what food my comic would be... I'd say squid ink pasta. It's the kind of food that makes you go "what the heck is going on here" if you're new to it, but once you actually eat it you'll (hopefully) go "oh, that made way more sense than i expected and was actually pretty tasty"
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
I don't know if you're talking to me directly but I'm using a lot of maritime history and literature stuff that I've been obsessed with for a long time as the setting of the story, and then the whole thing has a really morbid and nihilistic tone, while also somehow being funny because I have a background in comedy/satire writing
And then heavy biblical themes
It's essentially a Renaissance period retelling of the Joseph story from the bible
With pirates instead of shepherds
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
For me, I’m not even sure what niche Ashes belongs to. (https://www.flowerlarkstudios.com/cos/) It’s dark, it’s weird, it has a twisty plot that slowly trickles information, and it’s an odd mash-up of genres. I often try to describe it as Miss Peregrine’s Peculiar Children meets Farthing Wood. It’s mostly urban fantasy with some horror elements and talking animals. Basically it’s about a bunch of unaging teenagers with supernatural, angel-gifted powers and a bunch of woodland critters fighting (although so far it’s more running from) eldritch monsters. But it’s main focus is on each character battling either mental illness or some other kind of inner demon.
keii4ii
There's also the aspect of: what's niche in one culture may not be niche in another. In Korean media, Fantastical Old Korea is a very common setting for all sorts of genres: gag a day, romance, all-ages adventure, gritty crime drama, zombie apocalypse, you name it. If the work spends a lot of visuals showing mundane everyday moments, often that's a shorthand for "sit down and stay a while; this is a heartfelt tale that takes its time." My comic uses such a setting. When I began to publish it in English, I was surprised that people were expecting it to be one of these AND NOTHING ELSE: a) exciting magical action adventure b) mythology-driven, all about gods and spirits My comic is neither of those. It definitely contains elements of adventure, but that's the plate the meat is served on, not the meat itself. So I guess the usage of the setting is niche.
Like, imagine a civilian life drama set in WWII time. The civilian MC may have a family member or a close friend in the military, but the story focuses on the MC's experience. Imagine presenting that story and people expect it to be... military action? Not a perfect analogy, but hopefully a good enough one.
Kelsey (Kurio)
To be fair, Korea would find fantastical old Korea less exotic than those outside of Korea heh
keii4ii
That is definitely a factor. Even today, you can find semi-Old Days-like places IRL within like... 3 hours of drive.
I'm weirded out that my culture is considered exotic, but it is what it is
(To clarify, weirded out =/= offended.)
Kelsey (Kurio)
Well any culture can be exotic to people outside of that culture
As an outsider looking in, it can be fascinating to learn about a culture I don't know much about
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
Anything unfamiliar is usually considered exotic. I know in both England and America, I never really learned anything about any Asian country growing up. I had to seek out the info myself, and as it was very unfamiliar to me, it seemed exotic!
Kelsey (Kurio)
Especially their myths and stories
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
Oops, exactly what Kelsey said, I typed too slow.
keii4ii
Yeah, the thing is I've been told I should not be using this setting to tell this story because it's a doomed combination. But ehh, I decided not to listen to that. This story with this setting and all of its elements is what I wanted to read.
carcarchu
slice of life set in a historical setting sounds really refreshing actually(edited)
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
But I know I’d probably feel strange if someone told me New York was exotic!
carcarchu
sometimes historical settings can get really bogged down by politics and whatever other drama, having a quiet slow paced story set in the same kind of world is something i'd be interested in reading
Kelsey (Kurio)
Nothing wrong with trying the approach you want to
Who knows, you might end up with a unique combo that helps your work stand out
Cap’n Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
Yup. I’m a firm believer in writing the kind of story you’d want to read. No matter how niche.
Tuyetnhi
Totes agreed on this. For me, when I had to drop my dark drama series for my romance story, folks were like "Dang, I thought you like writing dark things!"
I do, but romance comics.... [clenches chest]. I also want to write a story that I want to read so lmao. Dream lover elements along with some dark horror influences is something I want to try doing lol
carcarchu
this is not a webcomic but try reading coelacanth if you're interested in the combination of horror with romance @Tuyetnhi
Tuyetnhi
ooo I'll keep that in mind
carcarchu
it's really so unique i love coelacanth so much
Tuyetnhi
is it a novel? :0
carcarchu
it's a manga
Tuyetnhi
aaa
Yeah I probably check it out sometime lmao
back on the idea tho, I also wanted to add some Vietnamese influences in the mix since there's not a lot of stories about Vietnamese disapora, so that's included in the cauldron lol
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
@keii4ii what's your comic? I wanna check it out(edited)
keii4ii
@Eightfish (Puppeteer) It's https://heartofkeol.com/
(I get extremely nervous whenever I know someone is checking out my comic for the first time )
DanitheCarutor
To answer @eli [a winged tale] question. I'm delving into stuff like mental illnesses and disorders, medical illnesses, abuse, trauma and later on, self-care. The comic itself is slow and character centric, I guess you can say it's like a character study. The story can be really depressing depending on who is reading, and it has some softcore horror bits sprinkled in. I'm kind of a nerd for mental health, sad stuff and everything medical so I figured I may as well make a story embellishing those interests. In short it's a sad, character driven, psychological drama about two extremely flawed individuals. Not particularly exciting compared to all the other webcomics out there, but somebody has to make that one pretentious, psychological slice of life piece.
keii4ii
What compounds my issues is that my comic does have enough adventure elements for someone to mistake it for an underwhelming adventure story. "This is an adventure story but there's not enough adventure in it?" kinda thing.
@DanitheCarutor Character studies FTW!!! Yours has been on my 'gotta check this out' list for a long time now!
Tuyetnhi
Oooo
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
I also am a fan of psychological stories
Especially if they're sad(edited)
Tuyetnhi
Kei idk why but I was reminded of .hack SIGN when u said that
"there's so much talking! where's the action?!?"
keii4ii
@Tuyetnhi That's actually not a terrible comparison -- though .hack//SIGN has other issues that my comic hopefully doesn't have XD
Tuyetnhi
I'm pretty sure it's miles better than that old anime lmao
DanitheCarutor
@keii4ii Pff I need to check out your comic too! I remember reading it at one point, but I don't remember what happened to make me lose track. From what little I remember I really liked it.
keii4ii
The thing with .hack//SIGN was it had a lot of promises of mystery that never went anywhere, within SIGN. I've heard those mysteries do go somewhere within the franchise, but you had to watch/read the entire franchise, which I wasn't going to do. I hope my comic will be a good read on its own, when finished.
Tuyetnhi
sadly, I was one of those suckers that went to consume the .hack games and mangas to get some context from SIGN in the late 2000's lmao
I hope the same as mine, despite being mostly saccharine and self-indulgent nature lmao
keii4ii
Self-indulgence is a strength of indie comics.
eli [a winged tale]
I love all the themes y’all explore! They’re so important
Tuyetnhi
I feel like I have a reason for everything when working on that comic but if that's what it boils down to, I'll take it lol
keii4ii
TBH I produce my best writing and art when I focus on pleasing myself.
Because if I'm trying to please others, I don't even know what they want, so I waste my energy panicking.
But when I'm creating for my inner reader, I can be self-critical in a productive manner!
Tuyetnhi
so true ya
RebelVampire
Hey guys. I kind of feel as this has deviated a smidgen too far from the topic, so maybe reel it in just a smidgen. XD(edited)
Desnik
so the nicest thing anyone's ever said about my comic is that they wanna read more :3
I kinda dread reader dropoffs so the will to see the whole story through fills me with joy
#ctparchive#comics#webcomics#indie comics#comic chat#comic discussion#comic tea party#ctp#creator interview#comic creator interview#creator babble
1 note
·
View note
Note
top 10 berserk quotes?
lol this is a tough one. ok i’m trying to think of quotes that are good in and of themselves, bc it’s way too easy to pick lines that are just representative of scenes i like. but here goes.
10. “Not good enough, just two or three broken bones. If you wanna stop me, you’re gonna have to crush my skull or pierce my heart. Just like you, slug!“
That double whammy of badass and delightfully on-the-nose wrt Guts’ black swordsman monstrosity.
9. “The power to protect someone and the power to be with someone are different.“
So in part this is just selfish lol because it’s one of my defenses against the “Guts, protector of the branded girl” shit. But more generally I do love this as a distinction and it’s a theme that we see a lot of in Berserk - protecting/saving people vs actually being at their side.
8. “Those who die on the battlefield are not royalty, nobility, or commoners. They are the defeated, who die.“
This is just a really cool line lol. I mean it’s relevant to Griffith’s focus on equality from an interesting angle, like it’s great as an insight into Griffith’s mentality. But mostly it’s just cool af.
7. “Don’t talk to me in that same voice!“
It’s an obvious little line but to me it really sells Guts’ inner conflict and how agonizing this reunion is for him because he still loves Griffith. And it highlights the way Guts draws a distinction between human Griffith and Femto/NGriff. Also it was this or the “I’d forgotten my urge to kill” bit and I went with this for the sake of variety lol.
6. “Because people fear the unknown, they speak the same words to one another. Because they fear the unknown, they distrust words they don’t understand. Because they fear the unknown, they believe in a doctrine. Because they fear the unknown, they reject other gods. People must cope with their world because of the unknown. Because of fear, they label outsiders. Paganism. Foreign languages. Different races. All manner of social classes. Everything that separates people is here at this place. And so is that which proves that all this is mere child’s play. The ultimate unknown. Yet… why is it? My chest is filled with… no. Everyone here is filled with exaltation. What a radiant chaos this is!“
This is a nice climactic speech to usher in Griffith’s utopia, and a pretty good illustration of why it’s not going to turn out to be secretly evil lol. At the very most there may be positive and negative aspects, but this is p emphatically portrayed as positive. Also it’s just an epic speech to punctuate humans and apostles teaming up, and I dig this whole sequence.
5. “Even so… incidentally… I found someone I really wanted to have look at me.“
Oh Guts. This is the heart of Berserk right here.
4. “May we run rampant with hatred and wild joy just to crush with these fangs the true light that burns us.“
The true light that burns us is such a fucking line man. Guts wants to kill Griffith for the same reason Griffith made the sacrifice. To escape their feelings.
Like, yk how Ganishka and Griffith’s final confrontation had that whole high fantasy, spiritual connection between godlike beings who are the only beings that exist on the same level vibe? Complete with the whole apostle instinct to love their god, yk kind of like some takes on angels’ relationships to god/god’s light, yadda yadda yadda? And the climax of the MF arc has that grandiose line about “it’s within darkness that true light is discovered”?
Well I picked this version of the true light line because I swear all that intense thematic fantasy stuff is straight up just a metaphor for Guts and Griffith’s mundane, very human relationship. Like NeoGriffith’s magic aura that draws people to him is symbolic of what Guts felt for him, and he felt for Guts, completely without magic influence. It’s a not uncommon way of heightening the intensity + significance of a relationship/love in general by paralleling it to world changing fantastical magic stuff, and imho Berserk is playing completely into it, with Griffith and Guts’ relationship specifically.
3. “The life you couldn’t take by your own hand, the life of the person you loved the most and hated the most! You gave it to us! So that you could bury your fragile human heart.”
The purpose of this line is to tell us why Griffith sacrificed Guts, and I love it. I love going into the Golden Age knowing this. I love how the Black Swordsman arc sets up Guts and Griffith’s relationship so effectively. It’s so good.
2. “Man takes up the sword in order to shield the small wound in his heart sustained in a far-off time beyond remembrance. Man wields the sword so that he may die smiling in some far-off time beyond perception.“
Berserk.txt. I love it when a story lays its themes out for you like a welcome mat, and this is a great one. Swords as coping mechanisms is right here.
1. “Among thousands of comrades and tens of thousands of enemies… you’re the only one. You’re the only one… who made me forget my dream.”
This was the inevitable first choice lbr. It’s basically a description of my number one favourite romance trope as the immensely satisfying climax to an all around fantastic arc about these two dudes and their feelings for each other. It’s perfect.
Bonus:
“I’d forgotten that the night was this vast, this deep…”
especially paired with the title of the following chapter, when Griffith ruins his life: “Start of the Everlasting Night.”
I just cannot get enough of that light imagery in relation to Guts and Griffith, and vast, infinite night as an illustration of their lives without each other is ideal.
(Also just include Griffith’s torture chamber monologue in this list in spirit. I didn’t add it because there’s like 5 separate lines I could consider faves in it lol, and also it’s obvious and I’ve talked about it plenty before. But yk, that whole monologue is side by side with #1.)
32 notes
·
View notes
Text
redemption in SW thoughts
I’ve only been learning about this recently, so please forgive me if I am mistaken here, but the focus on “redemption” tends to draw out the Christian references embedded in SW. And I do think there’s ways of drawing on that which are interesting. But I think the deeper point with Anakin and Kylo is related to the way Lucas drew on Buddhist beliefs, in particular the idea that achieving your greed/desire for power will leave you empty. That it’s an illusion.
To quote at length (credit to this person for the transcription and you can watch the video here):
The core of the Force–I mean, you got the dark side, the light side, one is selfless, one is selfish, and you wanna keep them in balance. What happens when you go to the dark side is it goes out of balance and you get really selfish and you forget about everybody … because when you get selfish you get stuff, or you want stuff, and when you want stuff and you get stuff then you are afraid somebody is going to take it away from you, whether it’s a person or a thing or a particular pleasure or experience.
Once you become afraid that somebody’s going to take it away from you or you’re gonna lose it, then you start to become angry, especially if you’re losing it, and that anger leads to hate, and hate leads to suffering. Mostly on the part of the person who’s selfish, because you spend all your time being afraid of losing everything you’ve got instead of actually living.
It’s a parable or myth intended to illustrate the emptiness of greed/control - and Kylo’s redemption wouldn’t be “letting someone off the hook” (NOR was Anakin’s!) but like the many “sinner converted” stories (like the story of St Paul in particular) in Christianity: it’s about reinforcing that message. It’s about promoting that message.
It’s rare to have a story so concerned with the spiritual but also secular, which I think is really cool, honestly?
Because the kind of 1 dimensional “bad people are bad abusers and I’m going to fantasize about killing them” thing Tumblr asks for isn’t spiritual or moral instruction at all because it doesn’t direct the viewer to look into their own heart. (Which is the place spiritual/moral instruction is supposed to actually lead you back to ultimately).
In myths and parables you’re supposed to learn things from all the different roles, not simply see yourself as the righteous, pure hero whose deeds are all justified and who gets to simply kill anyone who hurts them... that’s not a spiritual point, that’s might = right and self-righteousness. That’s leading your audience away from the core moral/spiritual issues of being flawed and human, instead of deeper into it.
In particular, I think there’s a combination of things where there’s evidence of “good reasons” (if you don’t think so that’s fine, but I do) for falling into greed for both characters, of desiring some control, and the message is about showing how it still goes down so wrong when you give into those things. It’s a good message IMO.
Even someone who suffered and lost as much as Anakin does not benefit from letting his love become controlling and selfish. Even someone who felt cast adrift and hurt by his family like Kylo doesn’t benefit from being unforgiving toward them; there is no way to actually “kill the past.” Spending one’s days trying desperately to do so actually makes your life entirely about it. Only making peace with it can set you free.
Now all that might work more or less for any individual viewer. I recall really hating Anakin for a while (though by that point in my life I’d learned to keep my trap shut about that kind of thing mostly) until I realized his story was meant to be universal and speak to my own, as a human, struggle with loving generously instead of selfishly. And if somebody doesn’t feel the issues evoked by Kylo’s story that’s perfectly fine (it doesn’t make them a superior/more righteous person but it’s not a problem either and I do think part of why some people find it unpersuasive is that the story isn’t finished yet and it’s meant to be as much of a surprise as redemption can be in this franchise defined by it), but the idea that “deserves” enters into the whole thing is IMO reading these stories as more realistic fiction than they’re intended to be.
It’s not about “deserves” it’s about how greed and control and desire are a prison we can only escape by letting go, not trying to hold tighter and tighter. Vader in his suit, never experiencing touch or connection until he’s dying redeemed in his son’s arms, is this huge IMO great message.
Yeah, letting go of control means pain will come. Loving generously means you can be hurt or lose someone you love. But trying to control those things means you will have nothing at all ultimately but a hell of your own making:
"You killed her because, finally, when you could have saved her, when you could have gone away with her, when you could have been thinking about her, you were thinking about yourself... It is in this blazing moment that you finally understand the trap of the dark side, the final cruelty of the Sith--Because now your self is all you will ever have." --Revenge of the Sith novelization
And it’s a compassionate story where as long as someone lives they can step out of their personal hell into the light. In the same way each of us can fall into the temptations of control and selfishness and then stop ourselves. Turn back, walk in the light.
6 notes
·
View notes
Text
This is why you don’t try to mansplain Jaune’s shitty behavior and RT’s horrible writing decisions to me.
Because I’ll rip you a new one and deconstruct every ridiculous argument and accusation you try to make, just like I did for @outcasts-redeemer when he tried to defend Jaune at Weiss’ expense before me, and since I quoted it all, I thought: Why not make it is own post?
Oh my fucking goodness, the amount of bullshit in this post alone is more than I even dared expect altogether...
If I remember correctly, Jaune was never a douche towards her.
Then you probably don’t remember correctly or are extremely lacking in self-awareness, because refusing to just take no for an answer (multiple times) is a douche thing to do. It invalidates her emotions, her autonomy and agency, showing he’s got no respect for any of those, and by extension, for her. The fact that he later tries to hypocritically lecture Neptune about disregarding Weiss’ feelings just shows how much lack of self-awareness the writers have for writing Jaune.
Jaune was the dunce who couldn’t read the atmosphere to save his life. He was awkward, clumsy and took things literally.
True, but that’s unrelated to the subject altogether.
It was Weiss who was the rude bitch.
Oh, HERE we go.
Instead of telling him outright the moment he started to flirt she wasn’t interested, she was sarcastic, condescending and rude and pointed to her upbringing as a reason why he was not worth her time.
So what? She still made it perfectly clear she was not interested, and even then, she eventually did tell him “No” straight on his face, and he still didn’t listen.
Then there was Pyrrah. The girl who was patient, kind and thoughtful, the one who befriended him and treated him with respect something he never had received before. She pressed him to find the deeper meaning behind his actions. Jaune told her, and we see that Jaune’s actions and affection was more than superficial, it had depth and meaning.
None of which justifies disregarding her agency and refusing to take no for an answer. It’s not even that hard. That’s without mentioning that, having had near to zero close interaction with Weiss in... ever, it’s hard enough to argue that Jaune actually got to know her and care for the real her (otherwise, he likely would have been more respectful). Instead, it feels far more like he just fell in love superficially with her. He describes her as “Cold but also incredible, smart, graceful, talented”, all of these being things you could tell from Weiss at borderline first glance. It doesn’t shown any evidence that he really knows her.
It was like Pyrrha’s, full of emotion and depth.
More like full of naivety.
Jaune fell for Weiss for her character. Pyrrah fell for Jaune because of his.
Pyrrha fell for Jaune because she was made to suck him up. The girl practically wanted to deflower him from before they even properly introduced themselves to one another. She was never her own character, just an accessory to Jaune’s, and that’s all the more reason for which I dread Weiss associating with him any further, because lord forbid any other characters have to follow Pyrrha’s fate of becoming little more but a sidekick to a bland, boring and uninteresting male character that’s not even meant to be the protagonist yet for some reason is treated as such more than the actual leads that the show is named after!
Yet, on the flip side Weiss Didn’t
Instead she fell for a smooth talking asshole who turned her down after she worked up the courage to ask him out after he spent much of the time flirting with her.
While I’m not gonna argue that this is definitely one of Weiss’ lower points, you sure seem to like exaggerating Neptune’s flirty attitude to extremes. He’s yet another douche, sure, but asshole? He just refused Weiss’ invitation, which - flirt or not - he’s got all the right in the world to do, just like Weiss has every right to reject Jaune. None of these characters are entitled to each other. The only difference is that, upon being rejected, Weiss takes it with dignity and just leaves it there, which Jaune just can’t do, as you actually proceed to illustrate in your next paragraph.
Jaune on the other hand was the opposite of Neptune. After he saw Weiss asking Neptune out, he gave her up for her own happiness, even going so far as talking to Neptune and demanding that he not take her feelings for granted. Which if you don’t remember Neptune dose anyway during the tournament.
The fact that Jaune only “gave her up” once he saw her asking for Neptune is by no means a point in his favor. He should have given up when she rejected him, not when she showed interest in someone else. He’s respecting Neptune’s “claim” (which is all in his mind) over Weiss than he’s respecting Weiss herself.
And he didn’t just save her once. He had been constantly protecting her. Initiation, Neptune, The Breach, keeping Ruby Save, Haven. All examples of him protecting her either directly or by extension.
The most he did in the initiation exam was try to catch her while falling, and he did it with every intention to flirt with her rather than to save her (otherwise he may have actually had an effective tactic).
He never tried to protect her from Neptune. He was just competing against him and was bitter as fuck because Neptune had what he couldn’t have and let it go.
Jaune and Weiss never even interacted during the Breach. I don’t know what you’re on about.
Keeping Ruby safe is all about Ruby. He’s not doing that for Weiss, for fuck’s sake. These characters have their own goals and motivations, their worlds don’t revolve completely around another character. Weiss’ doesn’t revolve around Ruby and Jaune’s doesn’t revolve around Weiss, and they shouldn’t. And that’s without mentioning that Jaune was doing a TERRIBLE job at protecting Ruby, seeing as he’d rather close his eyes and look away when Tyrian was about to strike her rather than attempt to protect her.
And as for Haven? Lemme remind you that it was Jaune who started the fight that led to Weiss getting injured, even as Qrow was trying to keep it from happening, and it was even his own words to Cinder that made her decide to target Weiss instead of just finish him off. Unlocking his Semblance to save her later on hardly saves him any dignity
Weiss on the other hand? The moment he needs help, she fails. And Pyrrha dies because of it.
Okay, this just takes the CAKE in bullshit levels!
Are you seriously blaming WEISS for Pyrrha’s death!? So what, Ruby is also to blame for this?! Because they didn’t get there in time!?
How about the fact that all that could have been prevented if Jaune had done his fucking job and actually watched the entrance like he was told to, maybe then blocking Cinder’s arrow that finished off Amber, preventing her from becoming the unstoppable juggernaut that killed Pyrrha. He had ONE job that could have changed everything, and he failed at it, and you wanna blame Weiss for it!?
And even then, he had the upmost respect for her and it was clear that he still held her in high regard even after eight months without seeing her following her failing to save his partner. And that isn’t just for her, he had no anger directed at anyone except himself and Cinder.
Because he shouldn’t hold any grudge for anyone but himself and Cinder! Nobody else that’s alive played any role on that, and certainly not Ruby or Weiss!
When Weiss came back into the fold Jaune didn’t do anything except shit on himself and try and kill himself via Cinder for Team RWBY because they’re the ones who matter.
You mean, avenge his idea of Pyrrha (because let’s be honest, just like with Weiss, he never really got to know Pyrrha) and his own sorry pride after Cinder insulted him without even meaning to? Initiating a fight that put everyone in danger? And what bullshit is this about “try to kill himself”? That’s just you projecting more drama onto the character than what’s really there. And even if that was right, he should at least pick a death that doesn’t put others in danger.
Weiss and Jaune’s relationship is as old as episode one of volume one. They have been intertwined just as Jaune and Ruby are. If Weiss shows Jaune more respect it will be due to their long relationship and their individual growths from snotty bitch and weak fuck up respectively to humbled warrior and dependable savior respectively. So no I won’t be proof of outdated thinking. Matter of fact it would be proof that Miles and Kerry are still capable of writing for RWBY.
The entirety of this argument is nothing but utter bullshit that hinges on believing Jaune to be an innocent boy that never did anything wrong (which he’s not) and Weiss to have her character meant to revolve around male characters like Pyrrha’s did (which it shouldn’t). I sorta suspect you meant “it” instead of “I” when you said “I won’t be proof of outdated thinking”, but I think you nailed it there, denial aside, because your way of thinking is clearly as backwards as it was the idea to have Weiss get worfed and injured just for the sake of Jaune’s man-pain and the unlocking of his Semblance.
The whole idea was easily RWBY’s lowest point in its entire run, and the last thing I need is a Jaune stan like you coming to mansplain it to me, trying to defend Jaune while shitting on a much better character like Weiss.
124 notes
·
View notes
Text
Promises. pt. 1 p.p.
MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD
MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD
IF YOU HAVEN’T WATCHED INFINITY WAR DON’T READ THIS
GO AND WATCH THE MOVIE
AND THEN READ THIS
I’VE WARNED YOU
part 1/ part 2 / part 3/ part 4
anon asked: I’m still sobbing after IW, are you taking requests? Would you write a Stark!reader x Peter in which she goes up with them (tony and peter) to space?
pairing: stark!reader x Peter Parker
word count: 4.2k
warnings: it’s INFINITY WAR SO SPOILERS, AND OKAY THIS WILL BE SAD, swearing, this is short but I need to process everything and this will be series because I’m still deciding where exactly I will try to go with this, oh and it turned out to be shit so sorry.
MASTERLIST
wanna join the tag list?
TAG LIST
Comments are greatly appreciated
tags: @spidergirlwanab @dracxnic-archangel @purepeterparker @dorisagent101 @hollandharrison @peters-vlogs @daughter-of-the-fandoms @fame-works-quicker @starsholland
If you looked ‘Stubborn’ up, the first thing that’d appear would be your picture. Your father said it was your middle name. Y/N Stubborn Stark. It had a ring to it.
But it wasn’t like you were the only one carrying that name, for you knew you had got your name singlehandedly from him, you would even erase his actual name just to make the perfect acronym for him: Anthony Stubborn Stark, better known to you as ASS.
You loved your father, though. Even if you had kept secrets from him, you wouldn’t doubt twice to save up his ass. It had come to you that whenever he was proud of you, it had rather become a rather pleasant outcome.
When you looked up to the sky from the compound, you knew your father would be near the rounded cosmic flying spaceship, it was landing in New York. Sure, Tony Stark had to be there. It wasn’t unknown to you that whenever problems were fired: your father would be up there, fighting chaos. Sometimes he was the chaos.
So as you saw the circle getting closer to the ground, a part of you wanted to fight down, finally prove your father you were as capable as he was to fight. You wouldn’t understand why he wouldn’t let you fight, after all, you had grown up with some of the Avengers and you had learned some technique by yourself. You were young, passionate and just as smart as he was, even smarter, you’d say.
“You are a teenager,” he would answer. So was Peter and Peter had a suit. Peter Parker. Your relationship with Parker had become an envious love-hate snapping from both of you. Unintentionally peeking with a bit of flirty, quirky and mellow encounters. A bit of tease, a bit of a flirt, and just, overall a dancing rollercoaster.
You were friends, friends who sometimes couldn’t stand each other, and friends who sometimes crossed a few lines. Yeah, you had a crush on him, and sometimes the teasing between each other led to an ‘almost kissing’ situation, but it would always end up in a roasting each other contest.
However, Peter faced the same struggle as you did every day, trying to convince your father that you were both more than he thought of you both.
Tony Stark gave you your own merit, and when it had come to the new nanotechnology he was developing, you had helped him up building the new suits, deep inside you knew Tony knew about the features you had included for yourself. Tony was aware he couldn’t stop your eager excitement and your love for adventure and science, so as the years went by he turned a blind eye to make sure you had your fun.
Even though your stomach was fighting to stay inside yourself, you toned it down, knowing that this was your chance to prove yourself, to finally convince your father you could be the one to help him. The opportunity had puffed, and you were bound to believe the audacity beneath wouldn’t fail you.
You snuck into his lab, and found the other nanosuit, you knew you’d be taking risks, but something about this didn’t feel right, a part of you knew you could lose him, and certainly, you didn’t want to be the one to blame if anything happened to your father. It was a sentiment you couldn’t fight off.
You suited up, as you flew your way to New York, adrenaline busting you up. Catastrophes had their own way to swallow you down, making every inch of you radiate with energy. But this time, you were scared, because as you were approaching, the air didn’t seem like another fight that someone could easily brush away.
“Hey, Friday, call Peter Parker,” you implored as you were approaching the city.
“Hey, aah, Hey y/n!” He answered as you heard him struggle, as you realized that he probably was already there. But you saw the flying spaceship going back into air.“I’m kinda busy right now…”
“You near the flying donut?” You asked him and he kept yelling. “Peter.”
“Yeee-yes, y/n, this is way-”
“Hey, I’m on my way, any heads up?” You asked.
“What in this world do you mean you’re in your way?” You heard your father’s voice as you whispered some cuss words.
“Mr. Stark… I’m… I’m going up, I could use a little help” Peter Parker was saying, and you felt your whole body tense up, shuddering.
“I meant I’m on my way,” you snapped. “Peter, what do you need-”
“Y/N! Go home,” Your dad ordered and you were cussing, trying to fly higher. He ordered to release something, but you weren’t truly listening as you were busting higher and higher, closer to the spaceship.
“Miss Stark your father has ordered me to send you home,” Friday answered.
“Ignore that, we’re closer to the spaceship than to the ground anyway,” you ordered and you watched how another suit was flying by. It was your father. You weren’t sure why you were following up the spaceship, but Tony was following so you thought you’d follow his path. A thing which wasn’t as smart, after you gave it a second thought.
“Y/N!” You heard Peter whisper.
“Peter?”
“Y/N get your ass back home!” Tony ordered and you were both flying to the circled spaceship. You focused and saw the red and blue glued to the center.
“Friday. Is that-?” you asked and the AI confirmed it. “Peter, don’t tell me you’re up there,” you begged, as you were seeing your father flying after the spaceship.
“He is, and he is running out of air,” the AI added as the suit was dragging you down. “Your dad ordered me to send you home.”
“Friday, I want you to erase all of my father’s orders and send me up there or else we’re losing them both,” You ordered Friday as the suit powered up, and you saw Peter Parker, gripping for his life. “This is code red.” Friday got you and impulsed the suit higher.
“I’m...I’m running out of air,” Peter’s voice came like daggers to you, you weren’t aware of what was happening. Until it hit you, you were flying into space. This wasn’t how you had figured out you’d prove yourself. A capsule of sorts flew beside you, you managed to catch Peter as he had let go of the spaceship. You were seeing a knocked out Peter on your hands, but the capsule that had followed you up released and took Peter out of your grasp, and suited him up with the Iron Spider armor you and your father had designed for him. You suddenly felt a relief cover you up, as you landed beside Peter. He glanced at you and realized your suit was smaller, and with more golden assets than your father.
“This smells like a new car,” he said, still taking a glance at his own new suit. “Y/N, is that you?”
You besieged him and wrapped your arms around him, thanking every possible deity you could think of to keep him safe. He hugged you back.
“You could’ve died, asshole,” you said and he held you tighter.
“Okay, you could’ve both died so go home, now, Friday send them both lovebirds home,” Tony answered and both you and Peter were dragged back into the earth as a parachute opened up from Peter’s suit to bring you to the ground.
“Oh c’mon!” Peter complained as you gripped tighter to him.
“Cut the connection with my father, Friday,” you ordered and as you burned the parachute off, and flew back to the spaceship.
“You’re an idiot, Parker,” you said as you glanced at him.
“I missed you too, Stark,” he said as you both climbed up around the spaceship. “Thanks for -um, catching me.”
“I should’ve let you fall,” you joked and he didn’t answer straight away, so you felt guilt running through your veins. “Are you okay?” you asked him, concerned.
“We’re both headed to space and I stopped breathing for a bit, but yes, I’m okay,” he answered and cleared his throat. “What about you?”
“I’m fine,I really thought I could’ve lost you,” you said. “So, what’s up?” You asked him. “Illustrate me in all of this shit.”
“Okay, so, this hit up New York, Bruce Banner is back, there were two guys fighting us, we got rid of one, but the other one, he looked like Voldemort, managed to fly away with this wizard.”
“Wizard,” you repeated his word. “Wizard?”
“Yes, he’s got this cool cloak and he’s protecting this stone of sorts”
“So, we’re basically reviving the Harry Potter franchise, great,” you said as you were both looking for a door, and entered into the spaceship as quiet as possible, you both took a glance as you saw your father. “I have a bad feeling about this,” you said.
“That’s Star Wars, idiot, not Harry Potter but okay,” Peter teased and you could sense his smirk from down his mask.
“I’m not quoting anything, I actually-” You were interrupted.
“Mr. Stark is receiving a call from Ms. Potts, want me to connect you, too?” Friday asked.
“Oh, no, no, I’m already going to be grounded in my entire life for being up here,” you gushed.
“So, did you come up here to save me?” Peter asked teasingly.
“To save up the world, actually, dumbass,” you chided.
“You were scared of losing me,” he mocked with pride, and you took off your mask just so he could see you glaring at him, he just stared back.
“Okay, I feel stupid, I just winked at you, but the mask…” he cleared his throat and a small smile spread across your face as your own mask came back on, and you entered deeper into the spaceship, stopping as you saw the supposed wizard being held up in the air with what you thought it was needles surrounding him and pointing it up, as the Voldemort-faced alien was trying to get information out of him. “That’s Voldemort?” you asked Peter as he nodded, sticking to the ceiling. “What does he want this stone for?” You asked.
“I don’t know,” Peter answered. “Look, I really think your dad needs to know we’re here so he doesn’t blow this up,” confided Peter
“Miss, I’m losing my connect-” Friday shut down and you felt your shuddering body tell you this was way worse than you thought. Somehow this battle hadn’t even started but you felt like you were losing already. You got closer to Tony, as you watched as the iron man was looking up from another floor the wizard and as the red cape touched his shoulder. He pointed his hand at the cape.
“You’re really loyal, huh” Tony said.
“you first,” you demanded Peter in a whisper and he shot a web and slid down over to Tony.
“Speaking about loyalty, Mr. Stark,” he said.
Tony scowled, as he watched Peter take off his mask.
“I told you to go home,” Tony retorted.
“Yeah, dad about that,” you chipped in, your father watched as you took as well your mask.
“What in the world are you doing here, Y/N?” His voice indicated more fear than anger.
“Look, I just… being honest, Peter’s parachute got tangled up with this, and well, we were already here, and I don’t want you to face this alone.”
“Y/N, why would you do this? This is a one-way ticket, and I can't believe you stole a suit and risked your effing life for this.”
“You’re risking it too,” you complained. “I’m sorry but I can’t afford to lose you.”
“No, y/n, you’re being irrational-”
“You really think I didn’t give it a second thought?” You argued back, as Peter watched you both.“I’m here and I’ll do anything to impede any of you two dying,” your words were clear, and strong.
“And if you’re the one to die?” Tony scowled.
“I’m pretty sure neither of you would let me,” you snapped and Tony blinked, defeated.
“You had one job Parker,” Tony looked at him. “Stay close to the ground.”
“I’m sorry Mr. Stark but I can’t be friendly neighborhood Spiderman if there isn’t any neighborhood.”
That hit you right, but Tony scowled watching him.
“Look, I don’t know what I’m saying, and that made no sense, but y/n and I really know what we’re doing, you got that.”
“No, you don’t, you’re two teenagers.”
“And you’re most likely suffering from senile dementia,” you snapped. And Tony, sighed, defeated.
“Well, if we’re doing this, then, any ideas?” You three stepped in front, kneeling down to see the wizard, and the alien.
“Let’s kill his Horcruxes,” you whispered to Peter, and he snorted back a laugh. Tony glared at you. “Sorry, I know, no times for jokes.”
“Okay, have you guys seen this really old movie-” Peter started and you got his idea right away.
“Alien,” you and Peter said at the unison and he smiled at you, nodding. Tony scowled and sighed.
“I can’t believe I’ll be stuck in space with two teenagers,” he muttered under his breath. You watched as the living cloak was standing between you all.
“Y/N Stark,” you offered your hand and the cloak rose aside to shake your hand and you smiled at. Peter tried copying your introducing moment but failed completely as the cape was quick to fly away from him.
“Okay,” Peter sighed, and you chuckled patting him on the back.
You wrapped up the plan, and before you could count on it, you flew down.
“I think you should let him go, Voldemort,” You said as the alien turned around to see you.
“You’re not…”
“Oh, I know,” you laughed.
“You can’t save up your friend,” the alien’s words were like venom. Tony flew his way over to you, as you were both pointing your hand at him.
“Being honest, I don’t even know him,” you answered.
“And he’s not my friend, this is more like doing the political and correct thing, you know a kind of courtesy,” Tony followed you up.
“Even if there’s two of you, your suits won’t be able to defeat my power,” the alien smirked as he rose his right hand, ready to attack you both.
“Good thing we’re film nerds,” you said as you blasted a hole open the side-wall, as the alien was dislodged through it, but the Wizard was also pulled, so Peter was quick to shoot a web at him, and try to stop him from going into space. Peter was hanging from a web, and you saw how he was dragged into the hole. Your heart stops, but the suit is quick to pull up the mechanical arms, to help Peter.
“Damn, what are those?” he yelled and you were quick to fly down and help him with the Wizard as your father closed the gap in the spaceship. You both landed on the floor, leaving the Wizard to walk. Both Peter and you stayed behind.
“Who are you?” the wizard complained with a frown, as both you and Peter.
Your head showed and you watched the guy.
“Y/N Stark,” The wizard called you before you could even say it.
“I’m Peter by the way,” he walked up offering a hand, which was rejected by the wizard as he glared at him.
“Doctor Strange,” the wizard answered and you frowned.
“Oh, we’re using our made up names, then… I’m Spider-Man,” Peter puffed up his chest.
“What in this world are you doing here?” Doctor Strange glared at Tony. “You brought two teenagers? That was your plan.”
“We just saved you, you could say thank you,” you pointed out.
“You know, you should’ve disappeared when I told you to,” Tony crossed his arms. “Bet you’re regretting that now.”
The Doctor didn’t answer. “You can bring us down to earth, then?” He asked.
Now, it was your father’s time not to answer.
“No, this guy, Thanos, he’s been in my head for 6 years, ever since New York I’ve been thinking about him, he’s the one to send Loki, and I’m sorry, but there’s another infinity stone right there, and I’m sure, I prefer bringing the fight to him rather than have him destroy earth.”
You and Peter glanced at each other unsure of what was going on.
“You prefer risking your daughter,” Doctor Strange said, and Peter snuggled closer to you. “So you say you want to bring the battle to him?”
You felt cold. Thanos, you didn’t know anything about that name, but it felt like bad news.
“I say, let’s stop him before he comes to the world,” Tony said. “I’m not risking her, I know she can take care of herself.”
“Okay, so she’s your daughter,” Strange pointed at you. “And he is your… protege? Or are you his mentor?”
“No,” Peter scowled.
“Ah, so the young Stark brings her boyfriend,” Strange concluded and both Peter, Tony and you were quick to correct him.
“THEY ARE NOT DATING.”
“HE IS NOT MY BOYFRIEND.”
“I THINK WE ARE NOT EVEN FRIENDS.”
Strange rolled his eyes but then turned to Tony.
“I just want you to know, Stark, when it comes to the kid, your daughter, you or the stone, I won’t hesitate on saving the stone.”
The three of you stayed quiet.
“So we’re just… going into space?” You addled as you watched Tony walking over to Peter.
He patted him in on both shoulders, as a knight.
“Kid, you’re an Avenger now,” Tony said as Peter’s face lit up and smiled, he turned to you proud of himself and you stepped up to your father. You cleared your throat.
Tony raised an eyebrow at you.
“Oh, yeah,” he walked over to you, placing his hand on your shoulder and you closed your eyes smiling, you had waited all your life for this. “You’re grounded,” Tony said as he walked away.
You scowled and threw your hands up in the air, as Peter burst out laughing. You glared at him and hit him on his shoulder. He smirked as you were taking off the armor, slowly disappearing. He watched you impressed.
“That’s an amazing armor, too bad you’re not an Avenger,” he teased as you crossed your arms and walked away, watching the space. “Oh c’mon, don’t be mad.”
You weren’t mad, you were afraid and disappointed. You were terrified, and excited. You were confused and zoning out.
Tony and Strange were backing up, discussing something. Fear was read across your father’s face and you knew it was partly because you were here, but it definitely had everything else with that Thanos guy.
“Y/N,” Peter said standing next to you.
“Peter,” you frowned as you watched him.
“We are in space,” he stated as he looked out. It looked so beautiful, and so unexpectedly scary. The stars were amazing, everything that you had dreamed of. You nodded as you watched it.
“It’s beautiful,” you said as it was taking your breath away, Peter smiled and he turned to you.
“You know what else is beautiful?” He asked and you felt your stomach shrink, and your skin to flutter.
“What?” You asked him, not sure if you were ready to take a step up with Peter.
“Being an official Avenger,” he smirked as he laughed jumping off. You scowled and pushed him away. “Oh,” he wiped off a fake tear. “This is going to be fun.”
“Aren’t you scared?” you asked, turning to him, stepping over so you’d be inches apart. He gulped and looked down at you.
“No… this is fun,” he babbled. “I mean, we can do this, right?”
“I guess we can, but, we’re stuck in this flying donut with a stranger, whose name is actually Strange, my dad has that look and I’m not sure, we don’t even know what stone they’re talking about.”
“I think we should go ask,” you said and turned around.
“Hey, y/n, wait,” he took you by your arm and you looked up at Peter. “I know that we haven’t been on the best of terms lately, but, really, thank you for catching me.”
“Anytime,” you smiled, as you both made your way to Tony and Strange. “So who will we fight?”
“His name is Thanos,” Strange started watching you. “He is looking for the 6 infinity stones, he already has 2 of them, or that’s what we know, .”
“Infinity stones,” you raised an eyebrow.
“There are 6 of them, the power stone, the reality stone, the mind stone, the space stone, the soul stone and the time stone,” The doctor said pointing at his chest. “If he gets his hand on all of them, he will destroy half the universe. Already having two makes him the most powerful being in the galaxy.”
“And we are going to just go and fight him? Basically, hand him this stone?” You scowled. “Why don’t we just destroy it before he can even touch it? You know, let’s just toss it in space, or blow it up!”
Tony nodded and the Doctor rolled his eyes. “You can’t deny family.”
“But why? I mean, she’s right,” Peter intruded.
“We swore to protect it,” Strange hissed with venom and you and Peter scowled.
“Where are the other stones?” you asked.
“Vision has the mind stone,” your father exhorted. “I guess Banner will take care of that one.”
“Which ones does he have?” asked Peter as he reached over for your arm.
“Space and power stone,” Strange answered. Or maybe he could have more. Your hand reached for Peter and you squeezed him. His hand was as cold as yours as if you were just getting the whole scenario and fear was taking control of you.
“What’s the plan?” your voice came out deeper than expected.
“Now, can we just… the adults are talking here, please,” Tony said.
“But dad-”
“Yeah, I don’t want to speak to you right now, please, go and kiss Parker or whatever you guys do,” Tony said. “I need to figure out a way in which we can defeat him.”
You didn’t answer and felt how your blood was burning up in rage. You knew your father was angered at you, but not talking to you even when you were about to face probably the scariest and most dangerous thing that you could face was a risk you weren’t willing to take.
You were about to snap at him, but Peter placed his arms around you and pulled you away. Taking you back to the window like surface.
“I have a bad feeling about this,” he marveled.
“Peter,” you glanced up at him. “Promise me something.”
He glanced down at you.
“We will live, for each other, at least,” you strained.
“I promise.”
“Peter, you don’t understand,” you said.
“No, I do.”
“No, Peter, I really mean it, I… I really don’t know where we are going, and I’m stuck here with you.”
He chuckled and looked down. “I guess I am scared too.”
“We can’t let my father die, either,” you said. “I can’t lose him.”
He hugged you, tightly, and for the first time in your life, his hug wasn’t teasing it wasn’t anything near from your other hugs, it was a knowing hug.
“You won’t, I promise,” he assured you. But you knew Peter didn’t mean his promise, because there were certain promises you couldn’t take if you weren’t able to make them. This was one of them. “But promise me something then.”
You looked up letting him go.
“I won’t lose you either.”
You didn’t want to answer, you didn’t want promises you couldn’t keep. And you knew, that when it came to save Peter or your father, you had to take risks.
“Y/N, promise me,” he placed his hands on your shoulders and looked at you straight in the eye.
“I promise, Parker,” you alleged. “You worry about me?” You tried to tone down the conversation with a smirk.
“Oh, please, don’t,” he blushed as he looked away, letting you go. “I just want you alive so I can kill you myself.”
“Sounds like a plan,” you smirked.
“And we both know you worry more about me,” he asserted, as you laughed sarcastically.
“Please Parker, I couldn’t care less about you,” you snorted and he threw his head back with a sneaky grin.
He cleared his throat.
“Promise me we will live for each other,” he mocked you, pitching his voice higher. “I won’t lose you, either.”
“Come on, my voice doesn’t sound like that, my voice is even deeper than yours.”
“Is not!” He objected.
“You know, never mind, I want an alien to eat you up,” you joked, denying every feeling of fear that had you powering up.
#peter parker x reader#peter parker x stark!reader#tony stark ff#infinity war#infinity war spoilers#spiderman x reader#peter parker x you#peter parker x y/n#avengers infinity war
350 notes
·
View notes
Text
Writer’s Block: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
Howdy internet!
I haven’t always been a writer, in fact only within the past few years I’ve started doubling down and taking writing seriously.
I went to college for illustration back in 2015, and it was then I hit my first mental block when it came to artistic inspiration. It sucked! I remember distinctly two separate pieces I had to do where I couldn’t for the life of me get the pencil on my sketchbook, and ended up handing in my assignments late because I couldn’t for the life of me get through whatever artistic block I was struck in.
That leads me to now- artist block and writers block varies from person to person. Sometimes mental health issues like depression or anxiety causes people to avoid writing (or drawing etc.) - and sometimes make it physically impossible get anything done. If you know that this is one of the main factors in keeping you from doing what you want to do, please talk to someone! Seek help from someone you trust, whether it be a friend, your family, or even a doctor!
Now, if there’s more to your story (pun fully intended) and somehow you’re finding yourself stuck in the middle of a scene or a random dialogue, or terrified to write very beginning of your piece, I’ve got a few tips and tricks I use to bust through the mental wall and create some kick-ass products!
Let’s do this!
Let’s Start at the Beginning, shall we?
So, before you’ve even started anything. Let’s say your given a task or you have the itch to write- you know the one where your hands are BEGGING you to type something, or write something, but you just....can’t?
Happens to me all the freaking time. Here’s what I do:
If I sit down somewhere to type or write and my mind is like a huge bowl of pudding, I move my booty.
Sometimes changing your work space, or even the physical location of your body can clear up some of the gunk in your brain.
Instead of sitting in your bed (like I usually do) move to your desk, take a notebook outside on your porch, sit on the couch (with the TV turned off), go to your local library or bookstore, become a hermit in a cafe somewhere- you’d be surprised at how well this works!
Skim through some of your favorite books for inspiration
This gets your brain moving in a “writers” kind-of way!
I like to flip through my Maggie Stiefvater books and read random scenes, or (my favorite) read some poetry (My go-to being “Our Numbered Days” by Neil Hilborn)
Check out some art or fanart from your favorite fandoms or artists!
Now, don’t let this be your excuse to procrastinate and get stuck on tumblr for hours on end (*cough cough* @me)
The key here is to yes, scroll through tumblr artists, instagram drawings, or even your favorite art book, BUT while doing this, let your mind wander. Imagine your own scenes or scenarios in your head while you do so-you’d be surprised how easy it is to clear the clutter in your head when you let yourself zone out and relax!
Now, the ugly sorta trick that I do sometimes (even though it’s gonna sound awful).
Just do it. *Insert Shia LaBeouf*
Put your hand to the paper, put your fingers on the keys, turn on your audio recording device and just bullshit something.
If I’m sitting at my computer with severe mental block about a scene I’m writing, and I can’t seem to break the funk, I just start typing something. Alot of the time it’s a “what would happen if...” and I write it. Usually it begins like a rusty machine, rough and crappy, but once you get your fingers moving and your thoughts begin to just lay themselves down on the paper or on the screen, most of the time your good to go and the mental block is gonzo!
White Space Anxiety
Whatchu talking about, Sabrina? Wellllll have you ever got a new notebook and you just, cant wait to start writing something in it, but suddenly nothing seems worthy to be written down? Have you ever opened a new word or google docs document and suddenly your fingers forgot how to word?
Lots of peeps, (me included) suffer from this type of writer’s anxiety and it prevents us from actually writing anything- total writer’s block!
Whelp let me help with what I’ve found that works:
Skip the first page!
If you got yourself a fancy new leather bound, engraved, blessed journal, or a fresh new staple’s notebook with the fancy cloth cover, just flip past the first page (the one where a bookplate or “title page” would go-) and start from page 2 or on.(If you’re super desperate like me, start five or six pages in!) By doing so, you’re tricking your brain that you’ve already written in said journal and most of the anxiety about making things “perfect” go away!
If your typing on a document, turn the font to like, a hundred!
I sometimes do this if I feel I keep focusing on the quantity of words I’m able to pump out on the first page, rather than what I should be writing.
By super pumping up that font size, you’ll fill the first few pages faster and almost immediately, and the happy hormones in your brain are gonna be like, “yes! you’re writing, good job-keep going!”
Once you’ve written like six or seven pages (maybe more depending if you went for the 150 pt font) reset the size back to normal when you feel like stopping or you feel like you’re on a roll, and voila! You’re on your way to a productive (and self-satisfying) day!
Okay, now that you’ve gotten at least something written and you find yourself in the middle of an idea or scene and suddenly ... dun dun dun You’re mind is drawing a blank. Writer’s block has fully set itself inside your noggin right in the middle of all your hard work, what do you do now!?
Writer’s Block Right in the Dang Middle
It sucks, and it happens.
Sometimes if you’ve been working a lot, and you’re not realizing how exhausted your mind actually is - it can feel like it turns off sometimes.
If you don’t have a strict deadline, and you’ve gotten a bunch done, sometimes taking a break is what you need. It sucks, because I know how much you want to write, but your mental health comes first and you deserve a break too!
Whether you just take a walk, or go grab some wine or juice, give your brain a break!
Do something other than writing- go stimulate other parts of your brain, come back, and see the difference!
Along the same line, if you do indeed have a deadline sneaking up on you and you’ve got yourself a bunch more to do but get stuck, try these things:
Take a short break.
Short meaning don’t spend hours and the rest of your day/night trolling through the internet or lose yourself neck deep in conspiracy theories on YouTube (I feel personally attacked here)
Save your work, get up from your spot, and leave the room if possible.
Leaving your room and physically moving your body, gets your blood pumping again and wakes you up subconsciously and that alone can help!
Drink water. H2O. Agua.
Sometimes, after I’ve been typing for what feels like forever, I don’t realize how much time passes, and suddenly realizes it’s been four hours and I haven’t had anything to eat/drink.
It’s easy to get dehydrated and as living beings on this place called Earth, we need water. Sometimes drinking a big glass of ice-cold refreshing water is just what your body needs to do its job! (Did I make you thirst? Good, drink some water! Take care of yourself!)
If you’re in the middle of a scene and can’t physically put into words what happens next:
Skip the scene!
Don’t stress yourself too badly on it if it’s not coming to you naturally. Move on to the next part in your piece, and start with a fresh idea! (You can always go back after, and finish/include the part you skipped!)
Re-read the last couple paragraphs you’ve written, and change up the last couple sentences (sometimes even paragraphs). Completely re-write them, or get rid of em!
Sometimes a writer’s block in the middle of the scene can quite possibly be your own novel or piece’s way of telling you that you’ve dug yourself into a little bit of a ditch and now you have to climb out of it. Meaning the way you’ve ended things in the previous sentences, don’t allow for a good, fluid transition into the next part of the scene.
Totally re-write the scene or idea that your working on!
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve deleted entire pages of crap that I could not continue to write, because I kept getting stuck.
Sometimes after fleshing out a scene or idea so perfectly, things become stale and unable to be continued simply because there’s something, some element or transitioning, just doesn’t work. Taking a great big hypothetical rubber eraser and getting rid of everything might just be the way to go!
More simple things to do if you find yourself with a writer’s block in the middle of your piece
Plan out what you’re going to write.
If you’re a ‘pantser’ (someone who writes without any, or very minimal planning beforehand) sometimes you need to plan your next moves - not only will it allow you to better flesh out your plot, but it can show you possible plot holes that you’re stuck in at the moment. It can also give you a very specific direction to move in if you know what happens next.
Change the music you’re listening to/ put on some tunes if your not!
Google “inspirational quotes for writers” ... trust me on this one.
Go make some food... and then come back quickly after!
*Make sure it isn’t a super carb-heavy or ‘thick’ food- you don’t wanna be sleepy afterwards!
And along with the previous point-brew some coffee or tea!
Curse. Heavily. Outloud.
Of course this all depends where you’re located.
And if you can’t curse, or don’t like to, sing loudly to yourself or yell random things out loud!
Ideas include: “Let it go, LET IT GO...” “I will write this fudgning piece of doo doo even if it kills me! You got this, you lovely, talented writer, JUST DO IT.”
In conclusion to this super long, probably-never-will-be-read-post- writer’s block happens, and it is something that can be overcome if you allow yourself to try something different!
Holy guacamole that was a long one- sorry about that.
Anything I’m missing? What have you tried that has actually worked? Let me know!
#writers block#overcoming writers block#overcoming writing block#writers#writer on tumblr#writers on tumblr#write your own book#words#writing your own book#how to write your book#how to overcome writers block#fiction#bibliophile#booklover#bookworm#booknerd#reading#bookblog#bookblogger#bookish#bookaddict#booknerdigans#books#publishing#wip#am writing#amwriting#authors#sabrinalee#sabrinaleethings
2 notes
·
View notes
Last Seen Blogs
valeriyademo
Уютно как дома
dark-blue-piss
yuh
chimerra-art
CHIMERRA
fascinating-findings
How Exciting!