#actual system persecutor

[non-dys-sys]

Persecutors deserve better and not because they’re “misguided protectors” but because they’re people. -Kage

#sorry I’m just really fucking tired of seeing all of the positivity towards persecutors being ‘oh they’re just traumatized and confused’ #like my guy there is a middle ground between ‘all persecutors are evil’ and ‘all persecutors are confused protectors/traumaholders’ #I don’t know how to explain to you that you should care about others #you should care about people beyond the 2d versions of themselves that you want them to be #ok to rb #persecutor #system persecutor #actual system persecutor #endo safe #endo friendly #plural gang #pluralgang #inclusive plurality #anti endos dni #I heard we’re posting our old drafts to drown out some negativity in the pro endo tags #sounded fun #so here’s my contribution

[persecutor-bites]

Persecutors do not need to become protectors to “redeem” themselves

Ignoring persecutors unmet needs redirecting their rage towards externals (those outside your system) does not fix anything, if anything it just makes it worse. Persecutors are people, not angry dogs that you can train to hurt others.

#pro endo #endo safe #actual system persecutor #system persecutor #persecutor #tldr: abusing your persecutors is bad

[reimeichan]

Hey, you know that persecutor alter you got there? The one you keep from fronting usually because you're afraid they're gonna do something awful and hurt you or hurt someone you love or anything else you just don't want to happen?

Can you do me a favor and get them some ice cream for me please? Or if you're allergic or lactose intolerant or just hate ice cream, any other treat you think they may like? Or if they don't like anything maybe share a favorite food with them? Or a favorite toy? Just. Show them there's some nice things out there in the world, too. That it's not all hurt and trauma out there. And that you care about them or even just respect their right to exist.

#did #dissociative identity disorder #actually did #actuallydid #did osdd #osddid #cdd #by green #I feel so strongly about persecutor parts #you all deserve love and respect and I hope you get that from your system someday

[system-cypress]

IMPORTANT PSA ABOUT 'PROBLEMATIC SOURCES'

If you ban certain alters from certain sources from your space, you are being abelist. No one controls how introjects form, no one controls their source and no one exists just to trigger you. Try to take a minute to realize that excluding those alters alienates so many systems. It's not up to you how systems cope.

#anti endo #actually did #actually osdd #did #dissociative disorder #traumagenic system #osddid #syscourse #osdd system #anti endogenic #problematic alter #protector alter #persecutor

[crsdo]

myths on persecutors.

that they are all evil - this is untrue - they simply enact a trauma response. obviously, if they do something bad, that doesn't excuse it (also, see system accountability), but persecutors aren't inherently evil or bad people.

that they do bad things for the sake of it - again, it's a trauma response.

that they are always rude and non caring - persecutors are people, too. they have emotions and personality and while they often have difficulties expressing feelings, that doesn't mean they don't possess them.

#system #did system #system stuff #osdd system #osdd #did #did osdd #actually did #persecutors #✙ jake

[frenzy-sys]

Dangerous Persecutors

The thing about persecutors is that there is a high level of nuance that systems as a community (especially the cesspool of syscord) don't talk about in a way that can help recently discovered systems navigate a healthy relationship with these alters.

In case you need to hear this; yes, some alters and persecutors are not safe for the system or responsibilities outside the system. No, some alters are not ready to work on themselves through the power of 'magic and friendship'. Some are violent towards the body or other things like animals/pets, wanting to destroy precious items or spend the system's money maliciously, or intentionally wanting to hurt people close to the system. THIS IS NOT THE SYSTEM'S FAULT OR THE COLLECTIVE ACTIONS OF THE ENTIRE SYSTEM WHEN AN ALTER DOES ACT THIS WAY. However: It is the system's responsibility in this situation is to do everything it can to control said alter's fronting or take appropriate actions to minimize this behavior/damage.

"That's not nice :(((" is going to mean nothing to them. Some will take years of help and patience to become a team member in the system, and safe to front alone.

One of our oldest members was a persecutor who did not begin his healing until almost 8 years later. It was not until his actions led to him losing the most important person and the only thing he cared about for him to finally be ready to listen and see his faults. And for some alters it will unfortunately be the only way to get off that path and listen.

This alter is not a bad person for how they formed; it is so important to remember that alters form as they are for a reason, and persecutors are most often doing things or believing fully their actions are the right ones, for the system's well-being or their own. And while you need to keep your system safe, you also have to have that patience and system teamwork extended to the struggling alter. In extreme cases, professional help is most often what is needed, especially when they pose a physical threat to others or the body.

They may spit in your face, and threaten that the second they are free they will do horrible things. But It is going to take a combination of both listening to this alter and granting them humanity, while also protecting yourself and people who are at risk of these alter's actions.

#did system #osdd system #system #did #osdd #dissociative identity disorder #sysblr #did osdd #dissociative system #actually did #actually osdd #actually traumagenic #dni endos #endos dni #dni proendo #persecutor

[pluralcultureis]

Plural culture as an anger holder, persecutor, and protector, is getting more and more annoyed at how much ppl on this community seem to think labeling sexuality and gender is one of the most important things ever.

It's not apart of my job to be attracted to people, or label how I feel.

I've had ppl try and tell me I'm aroace because I don't care to be attracted to people. I'm not.

If I was anything, it would be wholey unlabeled.

Let alters not label themselves, because for some of us, it's not fucking important. We don't need to. We have more important shit going on than who we want to fuck

#endos dni #osdd #pdid #did #did system #osddid #pdid system #actually did #traumagenic #actually dissociative #plural culture is #vent #anger holder #pdid persecutor #protector

[divinerapturesys]

i am just so angry all the time

#did #actually did #did stuff #did system #trauma #did osdd #dissociative identity disorder #osddid #osdd system #persecutor alter #aspd thoughts #aspd feels #antisocial personality disorder

[freakthingg]

shoutout to people who have persecutors that are genuinely dangerous. persecutors who are abusive to other parts in the system. persecutors who recreate abuse by beating, s/aing, and killing other parts. persecutors who have to be locked up or kept from front for the safety of the system and the body. persecutors who target children, or animals, or other vulnerable alters in the system.

not all persecutors are the edgy, meany part who says not nice things sometimes. some persecutors are genuinely horrible to the rest of the system or those outside it even. not all of them can 'get better' by being talked to gently and told nice words. some need to be locked in places insys or otherwise punished for the safety of the system itself.

i'm not a bad person for having parts like this, nor am i bad person for the way i HAVE to deal with them. i cannot heal them on my own, i need a therapist in order to safely do so. and that doesn't make me a shitty person.

#actually traumatized #actually abused #osddid #endos dni #non traumagenic dni #traumagenic #polyfragmented #polyfrag system #ramcoa system #cdid #cdid system #pfdid #pf did #persecutor

[persecutor-bites]

Gotta love reading through the system persecutor tag and half the posts are “persecutors are people… but” or “omg yeah my alter is so evil and everyone hates them”. Very fun /sarcasm

#have you ever considered that you could use a separate tag for that? #mayhaps leave the persecutor tag for the actual persecutors #actual system persecutor #system persecutor #persecutor #endo safe

[reimeichan]

I'm a persecutor.

I know it's easier to ignore us, to lock us away. We're the ugly parts of you, after all. The parts of you that you wish never existed, that you don't want anyone else to see. The parts that try to hurt people and hurt you for whatever reason. I get it, it's really fucking frustrating to deal with us.

Sorry pal, but we exist. Trying to ignore us just makes our pain stronger. Trying to punish us keeps makes us want want to hurt you back. Trying to lock us away make our emotions grow more and more. You can't get rid of us. We're you, even if you wish we weren't.

And that means you gotta deal with us.

Yeah, I get it. You don't want us causing you trouble in your oh-so-perfect life. Ruining your friendships, your school, your job, your reputation. You think by getting rid of us you're dealing with us. Stop it.

Please, stop it.

It hurts, so fucking much. Don't you see why we exist? We're the parts of you who went through some of the worst traumas of the system. We act this way because it's what fucking got us through life. To survive. You probably don't see it that way, hell you probably don't even remember the things I had to go through. And I may not either! But I still exist. And if you push me away, that means you're rejecting a part of you.

Even if you see me as a separate person or a separate entity, at the end of the day.... we share a brain. A life. Am I not allowed to live my own fucking life with you? Do I not deserve the same kind of help? Hell, if you want selfish reasons, helping me, genuinely, trying to be kind to me, will help you. Maybe I'll actually try to work with you instead of against you. Or maybe I'll even just leave you alone! Or, or, get this. I change for the better, and I start trying to help out instead of doing damage. Yeah? Sounds nice, right?

I'm so sick and tired of people saying how it's okay to lock up their persecutors and punish them. No! Stop that! Punishment doesn't work. Yes, we should have consequences for our actions that are a direct result of our behaviors. I was shitty to a friend? I lose the trust of that friend. I hurt the body? I have to sit with the pain myself. But that's not fucking, locking us away forever.

I mean, sure. I get it. Sometimes we're out of control and you need some way to get that control back under your belt. And yeah, maybe you need to temporarily keep us away from front and away from other alters. But.... it really, really shouldn't be permanent. We also deserve to learn healthier behavior and healthier coping habits and a safe space to express ourselves. Fuck, if you could help us find healthier ways of expression that would be great!

Just please, please. Stop hurting us the same way we were hurt as kids.

#did #dissociative identity disorder #actually did #actuallydid #did osdd #osddid #cdd #did system #did persecutor #by green

[wxrmeaterz]

DID is so funny

we got fuckers like Sprinkles who hold pica symptoms n are made out of cupcakes n like marbles

then we just got ANDREW pulling up to the function just being a guy. a dude if u will

-Corvid protector + persecutor (he/crow)

#endos dni #did alter #polyfrag did #actually did #did osdd #did system #did jokes #cdid #cdd system #osdd #osddid #dissociative system #actually plural #endos fuck off #endos do not interact #stop demonising persecutors i just dont care about the body

[theoraclesystem]

The only exception to not writing alters as murderous and homicidal to me was the manga series, Deadman Wonderland. This series is a massive comfort and special interest to us that we have multiple introjects from the series.

The only reason I consider this an exception is because of how well it was written and the fact that Shiro was conditioned into murdering animals and people at an extremely young age and throughout her life was conditioned into believing she was in the right for doing it to anyone and anything. She even wanted to stop, but her abuser convinced her that the world deserved it and she was in the right for it.

The creator also obviously did research on Dissociative Identity Disorder before writing it, as they understand that it happens at a very young age due to trauma, understood amnesia and how protectors/persecutors can work, and even understood integration and final fusion and had Shiro and Wretched Egg integrate and final fuse near the end of the series. Their final fusion also created someone who was not like Shiro OR Wretched Egg, meaning the two fusing created another identity that was the two of them fused, as is usually the case in fusing. Wretched Egg was even an introject of Ace Man, a super hero that Shiro and Ganta were obsessed with on TV.

Anyway, check that series out if you want a good story for a character with DID.

#actually traumatized #actually did #dissociative identity disorder #actually traumagenic #traumagenic system #actually ptsd #actually dissociative #dissociative system #deadman wonderland #i can go on about dmwl all day #persecutor #did alter #dmwl #dmwl shiro #deadman wonderland shiro #personal

[pluralcultureis]

Plural culture is having "persecutor parties" where after a rough day all the persecutors end up fronting at once and just dissociating so hard because 3 of them won't stop yelling at each other while the other two are trying to do chores

(spoiler warning; nothing gets done and we stare at a wall for like 3 hours)

#i am so tired #i hate persecutor parties #2 persecutors is fine #i cant handle more than 2 of us at once tho #endos dni #osdd #pdid #did #did system #osddid #pdid system #actually did #traumagenic #actually dissociative #plural culture is #persecutor #osdd persecutor #pdid persecutor

[system-hottakes]

Hot take: Some persecutors are just bad people. Not all persecutors are misguided protectors.

definitely. Some alters are just bad people in general. They don't even have to be persecutors. Like we have a anger holder that's a pretty shitty guy. He's not misguided. He knows what he's doing, he just doesn't care. We also have a protector that's a horrible person who tries to fight everyone. Not to protect us, no, he wants to fight people just because he likes fighting.

#anti endo #actually did #did system #system #alters #did #endos dni #hot takes #hot take #Persecutors #Prosecutors #Persecutor alters #Protectors #Anger holders

[requiemsystem]

RECOVERING PROGRAMMED PARTS

Trigger warning for discussion of RAMCOA and programming. This post will be focused on programmed parts recovering, I will mainly be speaking from my personal experience. If other survivors have more to add on, you are more than welcome to reblog this post and add your experience and advice. First, I want to preface this post by saying that everyone's experience is going to be different. No two systems are the same, the same applies to programmed systems and programmed parts. Recovery for these parts will entirely depend on what they have been programmed to do or believe. Show them kindness. Arguably the most important first step, showing kindness and acceptance to these parts is extremely important. Remember that they do not do these things out of choice, but rather out of trauma and feeling a need to do so. You do not have to condone their behaviors, and you are allowed to feel hurt by them, but you should not take this out on them. They are just as traumatized as any other part in the system. Start slow. There is no rush to recovery. Recovery is also not always linear, and setbacks do not mean you are back at square one. Try encouraging your programmed parts to take small steps outside of their programmed roles, if it is safe to do so. For example, a part who is programmed to be aggressive may be encouraged to do something calming such as going for a walk or listening to some music. Find new jobs for them. In our experience, many programmed parts struggle with the thought of not having a job or "purpose". This may not be the case for your programmed parts, but if you notice this type of thinking, try to help them find jobs that they are comfortable with that benefit the system in current life. For example, a high-ranking internal handler may have a lot of knowledge about the system and could do a good job of keeping track of information about the system in a helpful and healthy way. Help them find themselves. Having a more beneficial job and experiences outside of trauma is a good start, but often helping these parts find more of a sense of identity can help them recover as well, when it is safe for them to do so. For example, many programmed parts in our system are involuntarily assigned a title, choosing a name when they feel ready is incredibly healing for them. There is no rush to do this, and you should not try to force any part who is not ready into doing this, especially if they feel that they may be punished by other parts. Help them question things. Ideally, this should be done with the help of a therapist. Helping these parts question the things they were taught to believe can be incredibly helpful, but it must be done on their own terms, when they feel ready, and very carefully. Please do not try to force beliefs onto them, but rather give them space to question what they were taught on their own terms, when they are ready to do so. My experience. I was a high-ranking internal programmer for quite some time, and a few months ago I started making an attempt to recover. I began speaking to people both inside and outside my system who did not share my role, and because of this I was able to begin questioning some of the things that I had been taught. I am still not completely free of all of my beliefs, but when they do come up, I do my best to remind myself that those are things other people instilled into me as opposed to my own conclusions. The things that have been most helpful in my recovery have been other individuals showing me kindness and acceptance, despite my actions, and the ability to do things on my own terms, when I feel ready. If anyone has anything to add to this, or any questions, feel free to reblog or send us an ask. I will do my best to answer any questions, and I would appreciate any additions to this post, as I think sharing healing information is something that should be done more often. - Adonis

#tw ramcoa #did osdd #did system #osdd did #osdd system #actually dissociative #trauma survivor #osddid #actually did #polyfrag #cdd system #ramcoa survivor #programmed system #tbmc #polyfragmented #ramcoa #persecutor #did alters #osdd #tw programming