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elithilanor · 9 months

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I saw a theory about Lindir being Noldorin and I think that could track honestly.

Family hated and or killed at a young age (we don’t know his parentage)? Had to survive on his own, maybe taking care of siblings (common fan theories)? Soft boi who wants to be a minstrel and has to worry about being found out? Highly anxious could be hyper vigilance. Ends up in Elrond’s home? The elf famous for making a haven and being fostered by Maedhros and Maglor?

Hell ya I support this theory

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arwendeluhtiene · 1 year

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✨🍃Tolkien throwback🍃✨ - Elven sketchdump based on illustrations from a book on a Roman mythology (late 2000s).

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eleanoraborealis · 1 year

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The Portrait of Lady Miriel Þerindé that hangs in the dining hall at Formenos

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silvantransthranduiltrash · 1 month

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Post Miriel’s release:

Rando elf, impressed with Miriel’s argument in a court session: i’m surprised you did so well, considering you spent thousands if years in the halls.

Miriel: *pauses* Finwe and i raised the Noldorin kingdom from the ground up and you though i can’t argue in court?

Miriel: Bitch, i made the court!

#miriel is feral #give miriel a personality 2023 #2024 technically #miriel an finwe created the noldorin kingdom #headcanonish obviosly #lord of the rings #lotr #lotr elves #silmarillion #incorrect tolkien quotes #silm incorrect quotes #incorrect lotr quotes #miriel #miriel therinde

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softlysilverfountainsfall · 2 years

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Concept: there is a massive linguistic debate among the Noldor on whether to use past tense or present tense when referring to dead elves, since they're dead but are presumably in the Halls and may one day return. (The Vanyar and the Amanyar Teleri (Falmari) don't care but mostly use present tense. All the Moriquendi use past tense.) The Noldor used to use present tense, but then Miriel..well, she's not coming back, is she?

So they start using past tense for Miriel, and then for all the dead. Predictably, Feanor explodes, and the issue becomes very controversial, very political, and another wedge between Feanor and Fingolfin.

(Fast-forward: by lake Mithrim after Maedhros is captured, the sons of Feanor have a few screaming matches whenever one of them slips and refers to Finwe, Feanor, Amrod (if burnt version), or Maedhros in the past tense.)

After the Noldor settle in Beleriand, the ever-loyal sons of Feanor continue to use the present tense, but death and Doom weight heavily on the Noldor, and the addition of the Sindar population (who habitually use past tense) and the transfer to Sindarin as the main language push some Feanorians to use past tense. The linguistic distinction becomes a less explosive issue and less of a way to declare your loyalties.

After the Dagor Bragollach, the scales tilt more in the past tense's favor. After the Nirnaeth Arnoediad, everyone, including the sons of Feanor, use the past tense, and the despair is such that no one notices the change.

#optional: Some Noldorin Feanorians come to see using #the past tense as a rejection of reembodiment and therefore of Valinor #and use the past tense to affirm their Feanorian identity #this post is brought to you by me wondering whether elves use past or present tense for dead elves #and deciding to mine the idea for finwean family drama #the silmarillion #Noldor #house of finwe #Feanor #sons of feanor #fingolfin #legendarium linguistics #quenya #sindarin #softlysilver #tolkien's languages

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aragornsrockcollection · 2 years

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There is no word for gaudy in Noldorin Quenya, the same way fish have no word for wet.

The Vanyar and Teleri have words for gaudy which translate roughly to “something a noldo would like.”

#tolkien #the silmarillion #lotr #silmarillion #jirt #silm #jrr tolkien #noldor #quenya #elves #crack #vanyar #teleri #silm crack #i think i spelt noldorin wrong but I’m not going to check #finrod #because name someone who better encapslates this ill wait

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ramoth13 · 2 years

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A few thoughts on Galadriel's Valor, Story, and "Girl-boss" energy

I've seen many things written about the "girl-bossification" of Galadriel, as though she 1. did not need anything extra given to her character, 2. she was diplomatically power hungry rather than vengeful, and 3. she was already Married and had her daughter by the time this show was taking place.

I'm not attempting to defend any creative choices or say why the show is "right" to portray them as they have, but I do think some things could be discussed with a bit more context and I do love some lore-diving and graceful discussions, so here goes.

To the first part (1.), she is recorded as not only engaging in the first kinslaying (she fought AGAINST Feanor, protecting the Teleri, but almost certainly killed other elves and elves aren't known for their weakness), but Tolkien himself said she was a "great warrior" in her youth. In the same vein, canonically she did initially go to Middle-earth to rule, but that is not clearly stated to be false here, merely that she is currently fueled by anger, pride, and vengeance, and rejecting the Valar's pardon which is canon for the most part (pg. 242 Unfinished Tales). Again, not defending, but I do think that this fits into established context as well as the next two points.

2. We're not given a clear reason as to why she, specifically, comes to Middle-earth in the show. There is a general reason why the elves go, yet not her. But I also realize that such logic goes both ways and I also understand that adapted stories are told by admissions AND omissions. However,

3. We know soooo little as to the intentions of the story yet. There's so much left to see, but the one thing I do think is the most important to bring up is the fact that this "character reversal" has been done before, by Peter Jackson and the character of Aragorn.

Aragorn in the books not only knows he's the king, but is downright giddy and excited to get going, reforging Narsil into Anduril before they even leave Rivendell. The rest of the trilogy is him slowly spreading his influence and making his grand "Return" Yet, in the movies it's the exact opposite. Movie Aragorn is not just reluctant, but almost hostile to the mere idea of reclaiming his throne, and slowly throughout the series he is pushed towards that reclamation of power.

In the RoP, we see Alatáriel/Artanis (Galadriel) as the daughter of a great Noldorin lord, single and alone in a quest for vengeance. Yet, we know she will become the most influential Elf in all of Middle-earth. The reason she doesn't fit that bill yet is because THAT is the story that I think they are telling. Literally the first episode is setting up the journey towards finally letting go of the sword, claiming the influential (but non-martial) power of her birthright and marrying (quite scandalously, I might add) a sindar elf that will unite the Noldorin and Sindarin Elves into a United people.

I think the story we are going to see is Alatáriel, the sword-wielding daughter of Arafinwë, become the Galadriel, Queen of the Elves of Middle-earth.

(*POSSIBLE SPOILERS FOR SHOW-ONLY WATCHERS*)

After all, when Sauron/Annatar does return and sway the Elven people, there are only two elves that find him untrustworthy and reject him (Galadriel and Elrond).... and the fact that no one listens to her has always been questionable and unexplained in the cannon narrative. If the most powerful and influential leader alive said someone seems sketchy and shouldn't be trusted, it doesn't make sense that you'd ignore those warnings off-hand, especially if she was regarded as one of the wisest elves alive.

But if it's a blood thirsty, vengeful war-leader who has spurned the commands of her king who is saying that this beautiful and gracious elf who has been kind and generous and infinitely helpful to all of her people is actually evil incarnate, perhaps she would not be given much credence and would instead be ignored. It might actually HELP explain a few things lol.

(*POSSIBLE SPOILERS CONCLUDED*)

In the end, we will simply have to wait and see. But I think she's (Morfydd Clark) bringing something to Galadriel we have never seen but always known about, and that's a personal history. Just like Aragorn, I'd bet my last penny that we will see the Galadriel we all know and love, but that's the journey she is on. And I am so excited to see it happen!

But perhaps I'm like Elrond and harbour naive hope for the future, only time (or perhaps a certain Elf's magical mirror) will tell.

In any case, I wish you all well!

Na lû e-govaded 'wîn, mellon nin!

~ Ramoth13

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brynnmclean · 6 months

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One day I'm going to do a meta post pulling from all the info we get about Celeborn just to show how not boring he is and that there is actually a fair amount of character to him that we're able to extrapolate from Tolkien's texts (including notes). Like. Sorry to everyone who thinks he's a non-entity, imo you're not paying attention. 😂

#the most boring version of him is the telerin version but even THAT is interesting as he's maybe???? a teler who goes on the helcaraxë????#after fighting on the non-noldorin side of the kinslaying??? and what does THAT tell you about him you know???#i feel like i need a #celeborn inspiration #tag for him #to go along with the #mairon inspiration #tag!#anyway #i'm in spreadsheet hell at work and would still like to be writing about elves instead

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pacificgasandelectric · 2 years

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having some Thoughts N Feelings abt elrond & elros + the historical practice of rulers taking children from the families of their tributaries or even their (nominal) allies as hostages

primarily that (1) the Politics of the Fëanorions having the heirs of Fingolfin AND Thingol AND All Three of the Three Houses as their hostages is like… soooo overlooked and underutilized in the fanworks I’ve seen

and (2) i think it would be rlly funny and also fucked-up if most elves are Totally Scandalized And Horrified by this Weird Human Behavior of “hostage-taking” if/when they see it happening in the second & third ages as human settlements & societies in M-E grow & develop, while Elrond is just like, “this is Normal, what are you Talking about”

#mine #silm #like the story can’t Not be informed by that practice/history to some degree but it’s also a weird fucked-up edge case bc like #at the point when m&m have e&e it’s like. the Entirety of their close family is either dead or absent or absent and Presumably dead #so e&e are functioning less as incentive for their immediate family to act a certain way & more as an all-purpose deterrent #to aggression or retaliation against the fëanorians by any remaining sindarin or noldorin forces who take issue with all the Crimes.#anyways it’s Vital to me that elrond (and elros too) be a Little Bit Feral and have just the Slightest weirdness about him #in terms of his expectations for How Stuff Works—bc there’s no way he’s getting out of his Canonical Early Life w/out being a BIT fucked up #(elros is equally Weird ftr but the atani don’t care as much bc they’re more adaptable than elves and also elros is The Literal King #so there’s nobody of high enough rank to judge him overtly and also i think the numenoreans are like His Weirdness Is Our Weirdness #ALSO also i think early numenor should have a patronage/fosterage system within the nobility that isn’t Officially inspired by All That #but isn’t NOT inspired by it either. which is yet another thing that could come full circle and develop (back) into being #more traditional hostage-taking For Assurance Of Loyalty And Good Behavior as the years wear on and numenor gets corrupted. anyways)#for the record i fall in the middle on the hostage-taking reaction spectrum. i think it’s fucked up to a degree but i also Understand it #as a political tool and i think i’m more forgiving/accepting of it than ur average second- or third-age elf would be #so i think elrond’s blasé reaction (which i have made up) is like. indicative that he does still have some Issues in terms of like #conceptualizing personal relationships and family ones & recognizing that uh being removed from ur family and raised #by their political ‘enemies’ may in fact have Certain (Negative) Emotional Impacts on ppl. (possibly bc he doesn’t Want to think abt it)#(bc that would force him to do some certain Unplesant Introspection and life is hard enough for a half-elf without giving urself #further Emotional Damage by trying to unpack the Absolute Mess that was ur childhood and adolescence in the midst of an apocalypse)#but that’s neither here nor there and these tags are long enough already #oh wait i’m not done going back to (1) i know we all imagine maedhros being Fucked Up in the aftermath of the Nirnaeth + kinslayings BUT #do you genuinely want me to believe that maedhros—THEE political luminary of beleriand—was Not thinking abt The Politics #when maglor pulled these two fucking kids out of the wreckage of sirion and was like ‘i’ll be sad if we kill them :(‘#imo it would have been IMPOSSIBLE to forget that they are the heirs of Absolutely Everyone and depending on his thoughts on the future #maedhros Must have had at least a couple of Plans for these kids ranging from ‘assure my people’s safety Whoever i have to kill for it’ to #‘protect two of the Extremely Few uncontroversial political leaders the elves have left & make sure theyre Competent for when they do lead’#however Wrecked he was by It All i dont think that the politics part of his brain Ever turns off & it might have been kicking into overdriv #at that point in order to Not think about the Everything Else that was happening. ok NOW i’m done #sorry for tag rant it’s just that i have Thoughts and they are Correct but not organized enough to make it into the Actual Post

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kaia-art · 2 years

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"𝒀𝒐𝒖 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒃𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒆𝒔𝒕 𝒔𝒕𝒂𝒓. 𝑴𝒚 𝑷𝒓𝒊𝒏𝒄𝒆"

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My headcanon based on a scene from the Book of Lost Tales. In the book there's a part where Eärendil "wept bitterly" and said that he cared no more to see Gondolin's streets after he was informed of Ecthelion's death. And the fact that Eärendil declared something so strong like that at a very young age, at that time makes me believe that Ecthelion must have been very special to him. And of course our Eärendil was, is and always will be 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒃𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒆𝒔𝒕 𝒍𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕. Even when all other lights go out.

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melpomaen · 5 months

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Does Imladris have anything like Croquet and if so, is Figwit any good at it?

I don't know jack shit about croquet, so I had to look things up. TLDR; I think it'd be delightful if they do.

I don't have thoughts on who started croquet in Arda, but this made me think about the Noldor and polo. I can't decide if it's funnier if the Noldor

saw croquet and went "This is lovely. 10/10. You know what would make it even better? More or less the same thing but on horseback" then invent polo.

already invented polo. Similar to how it developed in real life, it evolved out of a cavalry training game. When they come across croquet, they're like, "Oh yes! Love that. We have a similar game that also involves mallets and a ball."

Either way, the propieters of croquet watch a game of polo and are like "Dear gods. This is not similar to croquet. But we're glad you like it. ...We'll be sure to try out polo if we ever feel like playing a spectacularly dangerous version of team croquet."

Figwit specific thoughts under cut:

Figwit is decent at croquet when he's actually focused on playing, but he's usually distracted by conversation. If it's individual play, he doesn't care much about winning. The mistake he makes the most is getting the ball through a hoop but forgetting to line the shot up so that his ball is anywhere tactically useful afterward. He does much better at team croquet if his partner cares about winning.

Figwit is actually consistently decent at polo because it's fast-paced. He struggles with a lot of day-to-day, low stakes interactions but toss him in a high adrenaline / high stakes situation, and he's all right. The teams aspect of it also works better for him because the roles are more specialized. He's usually Position 4, which is the defensive position that protects the goal.

#About Mel #Rivendell headcanons #elves and croquet and polo ftw #Maenod | Melpomaen | Figwit #The Noldor | Noldorin headcanons #//just fkn making up tags as I go

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conversacomsmaug · 8 months

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Tenho dificuldade para achar uma foto ou ilustração para inspirar a aparência de Anoriel, principalmente por causa da heterocromia dela, mas postarei algumas inspirações ao longo dessa jornada, o resto é com a imaginação de vocês :)

Essa é uma delas, não sei quem é o artista ou se foi IA, mas eu amei ela.

#Anoriel #tolkien elves #tolkien fanfiction #fanfic #Thranduil #the elvenking #Rivendell #Mirkwood #silmarillion #Maglor #maedhros #Fëanorianos #Nerdanel #Noldorin

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arwendeluhtiene · 4 months

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