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What do you think about recent 5G leaks from Bleeding Cool?
If you've been living under a rock, never fear I shall ramble on about this whole initiative.
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5G - short for "Fifth Generation" - was to be the next big DC reboot, albeit one that recanonized everything instead of erasing what came before. Now the characters which had previously operated on a sliding timeline attached to vague dates, would be allowed to actually age. Superman's rocket would land in 1938 Smallville, and Clark would be elderly and past his prime by "modern" time. Jon would have taken over his role as Superman, alongside other legacy heroes such as Yara Flor Wonder Woman and a Batman who was the son of Lucius Fox (Luke originally, but after Ridley was recruited then it was Jace). It would have been an upheaval on par with the New 52, the classic heroes all either retired, dead, or sidelined for various reasons, and their heirs would generally not have been the traditional choices, Jon aside. If you want a really in-depth analysis of 5G prior to the recent Bleeding Cool reports, I recommend checking out this which does a lot of solid guesswork with regards to what 5G work was salvaged and retooled for other projects.
Now on to what Bleeding Cool has shared about what were the plans for 5G:
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Batman
At the end of Joker War Batman would have let the Joker go in return for the Joker promising to kill Bane for him, in retaliation for Alfred's death.
Joker does indeed honor his promise and kills Bane. This would then lead into a miniseries, Batman: Last Days where Batman would have been consumed by guilt over letting this happen. Because of the new 5G timeline, Bruce would also have been in his sixties, and forced to face the fact that he simply isn't physically cut out to be Batman anymore.
Traveling the world to dismantle Batman Inc, as well as try and salvage his relationship with the Batfamily along the way, Bruce finally retires in England. He would have asked the rest of the Batfamily to let Batman die, and most of the Batfamily would have respected his request. Tom Taylor and Andy Kubert were originally going to handle this series and their work got turned into Batman: The Knight.
Meanwhile back in Gotham, Luke Fox would have decided to take up the mantle of Batman in a New Batman series.
Damian would have felt betrayed by his father's decision to retire and would have chosen to replace his grandfather Ra's as head of the League of Assassins and his mother as head of Leviathan. This would have led to a Batman vs. Robin event where Luke and Damian would have fought each other. Jon would have been involved too, with Damian viewed Jon spending so much time with the Legion as tantamount to abandoning him, and ultimately Luke and Jon would have joined forces against Damain, but the two would not have trusted each other at first.
Tamara Fox, Luke's older sister, would have become her brother's Robin against his wishes.
In 2023 the Joker would have made his return after a long period away in The Hunt for Batman, seeking to test the new Batman Luke. Joker would have outed Bruce's identity as Batman and revealed the promise he made to kill Bane which caused Bruce to let him go. Luke would have wanted to bring Bruce in, but Bruce would have decided to surrender to the Gotham authorities and then he would be put on trial where he would have been found guilty. The Justice Alliance would have supported Luke and been opposed to Bruce, with his old villains gunning for Bruce in one last attempt at revenge.
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Superman
For 5G the plan was that riding the high of revealing himself, Clark would have started pressuring the other Leaguers to ditch their secret identities too. Within the League there would be much discussion and debate over whether or not this was the smart thing to do, with Batman being adamantly opposed.
Jon would not have been happy with his dad's choice because of the greater scrutiny it would have placed him under. Only trips to the future and spending time with the LoSH would have offered Jon escape.
Same as Bruce, Clark would be in his sixties in the "present" and discovered that his powers were fading. Handing the mantle and job of protecting Metropolis to Jon, Clark and Lois would have moved to Africa where he would have become a different type of hero.
Jon and Jenny Sparks would have become a couple as part of Jon replacing his dad in a New Superman series. Learning of a terrible fate awaiting the Earth from his time with the Legion, Jon would have fought a "neverending" battle to make sure it would not come to pass.
Clark would not have been able to sit on the sidelines for long and would have been building a secret Authority team to compensate for his loss in power. Ultimately Jenny would have joined the team too.
Seeing Bruce put on trial would have pushed Clark to step into the spotlight again, with the aid of his Authority team Clark would have broken Bruce out of prison and set up a Superman vs. Superman storyline where Clark and Jon would be on opposite sides, fighting with each other over what it means to be Superman.
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Justice League
There would have been a weekly JL series exploring the 5G timeline and leading up to the dissolution of the League called JL: The Last Call. Brian Bendis, KSD, Matt Fraction, and Greg Rucka would have been the writers for the series.
Come Fall 2021 there would be an event called Changing of the Guard which would have facilitated the mantle handoffs from Clark and Bruce's gen to Jon and Luke's.
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Justice Alliance
This would have been the replacement for the JL, with it's origin in Jon and Luke teaming up against Damian. There would have been a World's Finest event comic that would have seen Jon learning the value of the Superman/Batman partnership and ultimately culminated in the two forming a new team composed of Jon, Luke, Yara, Jo, and a new Flash who was the child of Captain Boomerang. Tim Sheridan would have written this and he seemingly used his ideas for the new Flash to create Bolt for Titans Academy.
In 2024 there would have been a Superman/Batman Against The DC Universe event where the entire DC hero community would have had to chose between Clark and Bruce or Jon and Luke, basically DC's Civil War. Clark would have undergone a process to restore his power levels which would have worked, but his power levels would keep growing to the point he would have become a threat to Earth itself.
Ultimately Bruce would have done something that would kill both himself and Clark as a way of ending the threat Clark posed, saving Earth, and preventing the future Jon learned about from coming to pass. Jon and Luke would therefore have continued as the only Superman and Batman. Unless...
The whole thing flopped saleswise in which case Didio was building an escape hatch to undo 5G and restore Clark and Bruce back to their spots as Superman and Batman in 2025, when DC and WB would have stepped back and judged whether 5G was a success or a failure.
Other 5G Tidbits
Ram V's The Swamp Thing was basically him taking his 5G Swamp Thing pitch and just doing it without 5G.
Jeff Lemire was going to write the Tangent Green Lantern hand off her Lantern to someone in the main universe, which would have placed that successor at the center of a 5G horror line.
A Lost Green Lantern Corps series was planned of seven depowered GLs hired to protect a planet.
Reading all of it, my main takeaways is that all of the Jon solo stuff sounds awesome and all of the Clark stuff sounds awful. If 5G had gone ahead I think Jon might have actually been accepted as a worthy successor to Clark. Fraction likely would have given us some of the best Superman content we've ever gotten and it would have been with Jon as the protagonist. Jon dating Jenny Sparks in a series potentially written by Matt Fraction sounds exponentially better than the utterly bland and lifeless series we've gotten under Tom Taylor. Probably still would have gotten a bisexual Jon too, and maybe he would have even had a boyfriend with a personality as opposed to the drab Jay with whom there is no chemistry or sparks (I'm sorry I couldn't resist).
Everything about Clark is a mix of hilarious and infuriating. He's the one who causes the JL to dissolve, he retires to Africa - just like he did in Future's End which makes me think Didio was really enamored with that idea for some reason - and builds a super powered hit squad in secret which totally is at odds with him previously being all about being open. Safe bet he did that behind Lois' back, which feasibly could have led to the two divorcing and Lois siding with Jon. Bruce has to kill both Clark and himself to prevent Clark from destroying the Earth, and it doesn't seem like Clark and Jon would have reconciled before the end. Which means -
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- this is basically the 5G final fate of the Earth 0 Superman! Dying a failure at the end of a battle with his son, whom he constantly undermined and never let take charge. Even if Fraction's Jon book absolutely kicked ass, there would have been a backlash from the Clark diehards regardless. Speaking as someone who is quite fond of Clark and was excited at Jon's potential, in case that wasn't obvious, I would have been pissed at this being his "permanent" exit from the spotlight.
Batman's side of 5G sounds doomed to failure. The whole concept of Bruce being put on trial for Joker killing Bane sounds idiotic, Luke being determined to bring him in for that was not going to endear him to Bruce's fanbase. Pitting the new Batman - who was already going to be controversial by nature of being black and "cutting in line" ahead of the other choices regardless of how that was facilitated - against Bruce is insane. Bruce is the most popular DC hero and the general consumer base was NEVER going to side with Luke/Jace against him. Luke/Jace's sales would have absolutely tanked in the wake of Bruce's death, which I'm sure people would have blamed Luke/Jace for. Batman's fanbase would have been outright radicalized against the new guy, and if DC can't rely on Batman selling well, then they would have been screwed. For that reason alone I doubt 5G would have lasted beyond the 5 years Johns predicted it would last in Doomsday Clock. Sales would have forced DC to end the experiment and bring Bruce and Clark back to life.
Furthermore, the Justice Alliance book was going to be written by Tim Sheridan? That's who Didio picked to write what would have been the flagship book? No offense to the guy but a new Justice team meant to replace the JL needs an A-List writer. His Titans Academy book was dull in the extreme, none of his other comic work has been better than "ok". Puts the lie to claims that Didio was going to make sure that the 5G books had great creative teams because they "needed to put their best foot forward". Telling that there's no real info on what the plans were for WW, or Aquaman, or Flash beyond Yara, Jackson, and initially Bolt being their planned replacements.
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If 5G had gone ahead it would have been the New 52 2.0. Some great books would have been put out, likely the side books which would have been sadly overlooked, but the main core would have been trash. Fraction's Jon book might have been the equivalent to Scott Snyder's Batman run, an oasis of stability amidst constant implosions, but it alone could not make up for what seems like Didio running the line straight into the wall with his micromanaging. We ended up getting the good Clark books we would have gotten in 5G anyway with Morrison doing Superman & The Authority and Russell doing Space Age. Jon drew the short straw but the current era has simply been better overall for Superman than what we would have gotten, and there's still a chance that someone can salvage Jon. 5G being cancelled was a good thing after all.
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NO OLIVE BEING A LITERAL MAN IS MY FAVORITE THING EVER CAUSE SHES MORE MANNISH THAN THE JUSTICE ALLIANCE
Like she’s sitting in their base watching their tv and eating their food, just man spreading her legs and loudly burping and chugging soda, and she’s dressed like Adam Sandler and she just scratches her crotch without a care in the world and the boys are APPALLED
Robert: Good gracious! That is some ghastly behavior, Maid Gardner
Olive: *burps in his face as response*
Robert: *screams girlishly*
Freddy: Dude! Learn some manners!
Jonah: We’re not telling you to act like a lady, just act like a CIVILIZED PERSON
Olive: Wheesht, I’ll ack anyway I wan’ ya wee clipe!
Kit; Pardon?
Olive: *loudly burps again*
Keahi: This is like talking to any brah at the bar-
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charlietheepicwriter7 · 6 months
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Despite Danny's best efforts, no matter how much time past, Amity Park refused to see Phantom as a hero.
Sure, there were pockets of support, particularly among teens, but most of the town blames Phantom for the property damage, saying if he didn't fight the ghosts then it wouldn't be so bad, to that time he got mind controlled by Freakshow and "attacked" the mayor. It wears him down. It wears Tucker and Sam down. Jazz can only try to support them all.
Then one day, a member of the Justice League visits. Someone minor, and kinda a jerk... maybe a Wonder Twin? Zan? Whatever. They don't investigate; they don't look deeper. They listen to the town folks and declare the ghost hunters, Red Huntress and the Fentons, to be the official heroes of the town.
Worse? Danny Phantom is officially considered a villain to the Justice League. Tuck hacks into the Watchtower and confirms that they have a file (a heavily inaccurate file) about how to defeat Phantom.
Danny doesn't think he can do this anymore.
A few weeks later, a young villain escapes into Amity and demands (begs) that Danny help them escape from the hero after them. No idea who, I can't find a lot of info on teen villains in DC, so let's fudge some ages and make it Kyd Wyckyd from the Teen Titans cartoon. Danny agrees, because to hell with the Justice Losers, and they defeat the hero, becoming friends in the process. Kyd confesses that they became a villain after being ostracized bc of how they look, and they've been trying to avoid villain organizations because HIVE was abusive, but it's really hard to be a villain alone bc of all the heroes.
Sam gets an idea. Tucker agrees with the idea. Jazz is just happy they'll end up making friends.
The next day, the Teen Villain Alliance is formed, ready to assist with any teenage illegal shenanigans their allies might get into.
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It's created to be a healthier option for teen "villains" to connect with others and support each other.
It's more important that this is for Teens rather than Villains. They're tired of adult villains taking advantage of them. The TVA would rather ally with a teen vigilante than with an adult villain.
Again, no idea who the teen villains are, but Klarion is definitely here. He leaves the Light for the chaos of the TVA. Maybe Ember is there too?
Timeline wise, this is around when Tim is still Robin, but Damien has arrived at Wayne Manor.
This is because, when it comes time to try to infiltrate the TVA, they'll have a convenient child-assassin who has none of the monitors of a teen hero that Phantom immediately picks up on.
Damien, who at this point has been abandoned by his mother, dismissed and scolded by his father, and has had no success at carving his own place in the family, jumps at the chance. He is then surrounded by peers who don't insult him or try to change his behavior (too much; jazz is trying to help him find healthier methods of expressing himself). He... might not want to continue being a spy.
Danny, Sam, Tuck, and Jazz are the founding members.
Danny reinvents himself as the High Prince of the Infinite, Prince Phantom Dark. He got kingship from fighting Pariah Dark, but since he's still alive, he's only a prince. He steals the last name Dark as an intimidation tatic against those in the know; only Danny would have the balls to claim family with Pariah.
Sam works as a powerless villain, but she might no be powerless? Either way, Danny gives her a bunch of repurposed Fenton tech, and she buys the rest with her parents credit card. She does NOT care if that's traced back to the Mansons. She would choose something goth, maybe something spider related or even bat?
I love Pharaoh Tucker, so I think he should get magic powers? Since pharaohs of old were considered the balance between the real and the divine. He's still a tech guy, now he's a tech and magic guy.
Jazz isn't really a villain, more of a team mom who's planning on using everyone's psyche's as her thesis paper. You know what, that's her callsign, she's Psyche. Sometimes she flirts with Nightwing.
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anoraktrend · 9 months
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Tim gets cursed and turned into a swan and must find a prince or princess to kiss him or he'll be trapped as a swan forever. Unfortunately for the magic users, Tim didn't take being turned into a literal bird lightly and attacked them with his newly acquired beak (I mean. Its a swan. They should have expected this.) The magic user- clearly not well versed in bird attacks- started flailing and threw random things and spells at Tim in an attempt to escape.
This is how Tim found himself in the Ghost Zone as a swan.
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Meanwhile, the rest of the bats find and capture the magic user and find Tim's Red Robin uniform discarded on the ground. At first they thought he was hiding somewhere due to being, ya know, naked. But the magic user idioticly boasted that they turned him into a swan.
After making sure the person couldn't hurt anyone else they turned them in to the authorities and gathered Red Robins things and began looking for him. How hard can it be to find a swan?
Apparently pretty hard when it's in another dimension.
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Danny was currently hating his afterlife.
He was the first prince the zone had had in several eons and everyone and thier dog wanted to gawk at him. It definitely didn't help that he's been drowning in marriage requests since he turned 15. He was way too young to get married but some peopled seemed to disagree.
Like the Elderan kingdom and their very pushy princess. They had come over again tonight as guests to "discuss the political climate between thier kingdoms" which he knew was a power play because as the high prince thier kingdom was a part of his kingdom and Danny was about ready to slap one of them. Preferably the king, but the princess was a good second. Hes almost certain she was stalking him.
Danny wanted to stay locked in his room in the castle for as long as he could get away with, which is how he got a first hand view of a very much alive swan flying in from the balcony and staring daggers into his soul from Dannys own bed.
Tim saw Danny in his black and white armor and black crown and made a beeline for the balcony window. If this guy was a prince then he was Tim ticket to being defeathered once and for all. Then he could figure out a way out of this crazy place. The vigilante turned birds menace flew strait at the prince, pressing his little feathered head against the princes mouth, effectively stealing a kiss and reverting back to a human.
After a few embarrassing moments of Tim making a toga out of the princes bedsheets, he explained what happened.
Danny puts his newfound political training to use and scores not only a possible alliance with a group calling themselves the Justice League, but also manages to convince Tim to enter a fake engagement with him as Red Robin so that he can ditch the suitors. All it cost Danny was a ride back to Tim's home world, a bit of tech and some weapons.
Needless to say when Tim returned to the batcave via portal with supernatural tech, a glowing bedsheets toga and a freaking fake relationship fiance, the batclan lost thier collective minds.
Nightwing: You ditched your clothes for an hour and came back with a husband
Red Robin: Fiance.
Nightwing: I'm so proud.
Red Robin: Its a fake relationship anyway
Nightwing: For now ;]
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madame-helen · 3 months
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It's right to pity them Mark.
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zeb-z · 1 year
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I dunno, and I haven't read the Ascendency novels to be clear, so I can’t speak of who he was before his exile - but maybe Thrawn accepting Grand Admiral for that shitshow on Batonn sealed his fate. Maybe he wasn't the one to pull the trigger, maybe he was appalled by the needless death - he still took the promotion, even if he didn't want it. The moment he took the rank plate was the moment the blood on his hands became insignificant in the grand scheme of things. The moment where all his intentions begin to be buried by his actions.
Everyone is all about how Thrawn isn't that bad of a guy - and honestly I do agree that his character is misunderstood more often than not - but he still did terrible things with the Empire. Turned a blind eye and condoned much more with silence.
Because the fall of Nightswan and Batonn may not have been his fault - but he accepted the stain when he took his promotion.
For all you try to keep things fair, it doesn't matter if you're working in a system that is instituted to be cruel. And while Thrawn had never claimed to be a good man, and had only joined ultimately for the protection of his own people, there's something to be said of this deterioration of morality. How he doesn't understand politics, but is still shaped by the dangerous and vindictive workings of Imperial political scene, forgoing honesty for station.
Pirates and smugglers turn to insurgents and rebels. Capture turns to execute. He kills to prove a point.
He develops for the worse. For all he shapes the Imperial Navy, it shapes him all the same. I dunno. Complex character and all o that. He’s no scum of the earth true evil, but he’s no shining star either.
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the-garbanzo-annex-jr · 7 months
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"I’m pleased to announce that today PayPal committed to me that it no longer services this entity," he said. "For American companies, national security should be more important than the bottom line. Doing business with fiscal sponsors of Palestinian terrorists is not acceptable."
The revelation is the latest blow to Alliance for Global Justice's ability to rake in cash for itself and the 140 organizations it fiscally sponsors, including Samidoun, which has shared staffers with the Popular Front, according to Zachor Legal Institute, a think tank that contacted the Treasury Department and IRS about companies working with the Arizona group. Alliance for Global Justice also sponsors the Palestinian Campaign for the Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel, a coalition accused of having terror ties that the Democratic fundraising giant ActBlue recently booted off its platform.
AFGJ had to move its fundraising operation to PayPal after Stripe, the Irish-American payment processor that handled $817 billion transactions in 2022, parted ways with it in early September. Salsa Labs stopped working with AFGJ in February, prompting the Arizona charity to put out a 1,000-word statement urging donors to send paper checks. Watchdogs, including Israel's NGO Monitor, have also zoned in on how AFGJ has sponsored Collectif Palestine Vaincra, which it says has coordinated with the Popular Front for a child "indoctrination" camp in the Gaza Strip.
AFGJ's online fundraising portal now produces an error that reads, "Your payment has been declined," when the donation button is pressed. The organization, which did not return a Washington Examiner request for comment, published a press release on its website noting that its projects have "found themselves to be targets of right-wing media attacks.
"The accusations caused financial institutions to cancel AFGJ’s contracts for accepting credit card donations for itself and its projects, distributing funds to projects, and carrying on other vital forms of business, without any investigation or due process by the banks," Alliance for Global Justice said this week. "AFGJ and its 140 fiscally-sponsored projects were suddenly de-platformed, blocked, from using these services. Projects that depend upon these tools have seen their payrolls, rent payments, and other critical financial transactions blocked."
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Something that I find interesting in the long standing argument of Marvel VS DC, most people only ever compare the movies and the TV shows. The thing that I feel like that people don't ever bother to compare is the video games and so I want to do that.
Now, I am going to say that both Marvel and DC have their quantities of down right garbage movie, TV show and cartoon tie in games that are not worth mentioning at all by name because there are just so many. Now, I do think that DC stopped making these sooner as Marvel didn't stop until after The Winter Soldier's release.
Of course, both Marvel & DC have their LEGO games which, are excellent games for both of these two.
Marvel LEGO Games:
LEGO Marvel's Avengers
LEGO Marvel Superheroes
LEGO Marvel Superheroes
DC LEGO Games:
LEGO Batman: The Video Game
LEGO Batman 2: DC Superheroes
LEGO Batman 3: Beyond Gotham
LEGO DC Super-Villians
Now, those are not the real, big cheese games within the Marvel and DC franchises, are they? No, no, no, we have to go much, much bigger here. What are the heavy hitter games for Marvel and DC?
DC Heavy Hitters:
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Batman: Arkham City
Batman: Arkham Origins
Batman: Arkham Knight
Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League
Gotham Knights
Injustice: Gods Among Us
Injustice 2
Batman: The Telltale Series
Batman: The Enemy Within
Marvel Heavy Hitters:
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3
Marvel VS Capcom: Clash Of Superheroes
Marvel VS Capcom 2: New Age Of Heroes
Marvel VS Capcom 3: Fate Of Two Worlds
Marvel VS Capcom Infinite
Guardians Of The Galaxy
Guardian Of The Galaxy: The Telltale Series
Marvel's Spider-Man
Marvel's Spider Man Miles Morales
Marvel's Spider-Man 2
Marvel's Avengers
Now, I am sure that I missed something and I sure that people will let me know what I missed. Of course, both of these lists have their stinkers like Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League and Gotham Knights for DC and the Crystal Dynamics Marvel's Avengers for Marvel. Each is the same number of games but, what it really comes down to is the quality of those remaining games and I can only speak on the ones I've played.
DC Games I've played:
LEGO Batman: The Video Game
LEGO Batman 2: DC Superheroes
LEGO Batman 3: Beyond Gotham
LEGO DC Super-Villains
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Batman: Arkham City
Injustice: Gods Among Us
Injustice 2
Marvel Games I've Played:
LEGO Marvel Superheroes
LEGO Marvel Superheroes 2
LEGO Marvel's Avengers
Guardians Of The Galaxy: The Telltale Series
I don't know, most of the Marvel games have just been really not interesting to me personally. I personally think that both have their good and bad games and that it's really up to the individual.
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veshialles · 2 months
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nooo, please let me tell these cops to fuck off, kinggath i thought you were cool what the hell guys
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goodblacknews · 11 months
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Apple Adds $25 Million to Racial Equity and Justice Initiative, Increasing Financial Commitment to over $200M since 2020
This week, Apple announced its Racial Equity and Justice Initiative (REJI), a long-term global effort to advance equity and expand opportunities for Black, Hispanic/Latinx, and Indigenous communities, has more than doubled its initial financial commitment to total more than $200 million over the last three years. Since launching REJI in June 2020, Apple has supported education, economic…
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En español
Otras cositas de atomic puppet pero cambiando el género cavalier se ve linda pero coquetas
in English
Other atomic puppet things but changing the genre cavalier looks cute but flirty
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bobauthorman · 2 years
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The Assumed Disgaea Timeline
I’ve been a casual fan of the Disgaea series, and the more it’s gone on, the harder it’s been to figure out the timeline. But after a few hours of thinking, I think I’ve got the hang of it. I think. (Please don’t hate. Constructive criticism, sure, but not hate)
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