#catholic trauma

[claratyler]

the thing we need to understand is that the pope is not at all pro-lgbt rights in anyway. Does he oppose violenece/hate as a blanket sort of core belief? Yes, so this includes violence and hate towards a queer person. But that doesnt mean he believesthat being queer is something to be celebrated, let alone acceptable.

Does he say any gay person can join in the mass? Yes, as a blanket sort of core belief because christianity is supposed to be for everyone, and nobody, regardless of their moral failings (such as being queer, which IS regarded as a moral failing), should be turned away from participating in the holy rituals or getting close to God.

The thing you need to understand about modern day catholics is that many of them will look you in the face and say "Being gay is not a bad thing. We all have temptations we have to stay clear off. It's not the fact that you have this inclination that defines you, it's whether you choose to engage by thought and/or action instead of actively suppressing it that we look down upon." And then they'll tell you in a way they think is kind and helpful that they know a person who can help with treating that.

"The pope now accepts trans people!" Are you sure. Are you really sure

How do you think this is going to fare in reality when the parameters for this "acceptance" are "pastoral prudence" and "public scandal" and "educational disorientation".

Also, on gay people:

This is literally what i was saying: A gay person who represses their inclinations is what they mean by leading a life that conforms to the faith. Thats why a gay person in a gay relationship/marriage (which btw gay marriage is not existent in the roman catholic church, the very notion is a contradiction in their eyes) could not be eligible.

And why do i know allthis and why am i ranting about this? Because #CatholicUniTrauma and im tired of people misunderstanding how fucked up the entire catholic church is because of misleading headlines or quotes taken out of context. The pope is not woke. Seriously.

quoted article: The New York Times' "Vatican Says Transgender People Can Be Baptized and Become Godparents" by Jason Horowitz, Elisabetta Povoledo, and Ruth Graham. Published Nov 9 2023 (tumblr wont let me paste the link for some reason)

#transphobia #homophobia #religious trauma #catholic trauma #ask to tag

[queer-reader-07]

you know what i think really gets me as a good omens fan who also grew up catholic? the very human approach it takes to morality.

i can’t speak for every denomination of christianity, but i can speak to catholicism. i grew up in the church, i went to catholic school, i was confirmed for fuck’s sake. i know the catholic church. the ways in which it eats away at your self esteem. the ways in which it makes you feel like you are a terrible person because you’ve sinned in one way or another. the way you’re taught the concept of original sin as though it isn’t deeply unsettling to believe that all humans are born corrupt. you’re taught that you were born tainted by satan, you as a baby you as a child you who doesn’t even know your place in this world yet. you are sinful because you are human.

there is no room for shades of grey in catholicism. you have either sinned or you haven’t. you are either good or you are bad. you are either going to heaven or you are cursed to damnation. (yeah yeah purgatory and all that but if i’m being honest the diocese i was a part of never really talked about it)

we all know the church is corrupt. every catholic knows that, but whether or not we ever admitted it to ourselves and accepted it as truth is another story. you cannot deny the staggering statistics regarding catholic priests assaulting and molesting children. you cannot deny the financial corruption that has been present in the institution for centuries. but you can ignore it. you can ignore it and pretend like the church is perfect and good because if you allow yourself to admit it’s issues, you admit that maybe your entire world view is flawed. that maybe the idea of morality as being black and white is wrong.

that's what i grew up with. with these contradictory beliefs. these adults in power telling me i was inherently sinful because i was human while also being told that God loves me. that God will save me from myself. so i grew up thinking someone else could fix me. because if i was inherently bad i couldn't fix myself.

but of course, the truth is, i don't need fixing. i'm not broken or bad. i'm human.

when aziraphale described adam as "human incarnate" i got EXTREMELY emotional. because to be human incarnate is to be not good or bad. it's to just be. be whoever it is you are. make the best choices you can. will they all be perfect? of course not. but will you be trying your damndest? yes.

good omens is a breath of fresh air for me and my religious trauma because the thesis of the story is that black and white thinking is unproductive at best and actively harmful at worst. you cannot live a fulfilling life while also believing there is only Bad and Good, and that Bad and Good are inherent.

good omens is a comfort because it reminds me in more ways than one that i'm worthy of love. i'm worthy of life. i don't have to be perfect, far from it. i'm allowed to be messy and make mistakes, but none of that means i don't deserve to be here. none of that means i'm a Bad Person. i'm just, A Person.

i'm trying. i've always tried. tried to love the best i can, tried to be the best person i can be, tried to live my life to the fullest, tried to cultivate joy for myself.

my brain is a mess. and 15 years, give or take, of being fully immersed in the catholic church (including 7 years of catholic school) definitely didn't help. i am still riddled with catholic guilt and toxic mental frameworks because of the time i spent in the church.

but good omens helps me work through it just that little bit more. it's there in its corner of my heart saying "hey. you're human. you're not Bad or Good, you're You. and you're trying."

it's... comforting. yeah, i think that's the right word.

#found this one in my drafts and finally decided to finish it #good omens #good omens meta #gomens meta #cw religious trauma #religious trauma #catholic trauma #catholicism

[emxritus]

Blaspheming and sexualizing catholicism; gotta be one of my favorite hobbies.

#emxritus #catholic imagery #ex religious #ex catholic #catholic trauma #fuck catholicism #blasphemy #satanism #heathen #catholicism

[seraphimfall]

maybe it’s just my ex-catholics vibes, but the way evangelical christian circles treat mother mary and mary magdalene always rubbed me the wrong way.

their roles as disciples of christ are often so shamelessly downplayed that it’s laughable.

mary magdalene is never given any mention outside of “whore who closed her legs and repented” despite being one of jesus’ closest disciples and the first one to be notified that christ had risen. not to mention the belief that she was a prostitute before becoming a disciple is not biblically supported.

mary the mother gets the same treatment— albeit a further fall from grace given how highly regarded she is in catholicism. evangelicals remove every trait from mother mary except for her submission and willingness to get pregnant. they never talk of her anguish at the cross, or her hand in jesus’ ministry. they also shame the concept of veneration towards her. they teach that she was not born without sin, she was not assumed into heaven, and she cannot intercede on behalf of people who pray for her. she is essentially stripped of her title as “queen of heaven”. she’s just some woman who god picked to bear his child. there was nothing special about her and she receives no title or reward for her unimaginable struggle.

these women, and others like them, travelled alongside jesus and his apostles for their ministry journey. yet, you would never know according to evangelical teaching.

at the end of the day, catholicism is sexist as hell— but at least it gives mother mary and mary magdalene the honor and attention they deserve.

#|| the disciple || #ex catholic #ex christian #folk catholicism #exvangelical #ex fundamentalist #ex fundie #ex cult #ex religious #catholic guilt #catholic trauma #religious trauma #deconversion #deconvert #losing my religion #apostate #folk saints #apostasy #mary magdalene #virgin mary

[lord-of-simons-ghost]

Tw// Implied Religious Trauma and Religious imagery

“Bless me, Father, for I have sinned. It has been a day since my last confession….”

#lotf #lord of the flies #jack lotf #religious trauma #tw religious themes #I’m not catholic #art #lotf jack #lotf art #lord of the flies art #lord of the flies fanart #jack merridew #religious imagery #catholic trauma #this was based off a weeping angel #weeping angels

[madbug]

No one should feel guilty for existing

#catholic trauma #ex catholic #religious trauma #christian trauma #its so ugh #like I wish I hadn't been raised catholic #I know a lot of the reason why I spent so long hating myself is because I was taught to

[mymagpienest]

#literature #plays #theatre #religion #religious trauma #catholic trauma #art #poetry #poetry quotes #nihilism #theism #philosophy #shame #guilt #catholic guilt #mymagpienest

[dollcatalogue]

hungover service

#poetry #writing #poems on tumblr #original poem #catholic guilt #catholic trauma

[seriousturd]

The first time I almost came out was to a priest in a confessional booth, but I chickened out. Even though I was religious & felt unnatural, I did secretly hope that the priest would say it was okay.

#lesbian #wlw #internalized homophobia #catholic trauma #turdy talk

[dorsey-divine]

(This is an artistic exercise, corrections on precise theology or correct theological interpretation- re: the bible is not always literal- are not welcome or needed, but your own theological fascinations/brain worms are most certainly wanted and welcome.)

I was raised catholic, and that deeply affects my art and the way I perceive other's art. Because of this I think about divinity, its nature, its place in the world, angels, and the nature of free will in the Bible quite often. Specifically how for several major characters (yes, characters, the bible is a book that at best is a heavy fictionalized version of certain real events and people) free will doesn't truly exist.

Did Lucifer really have a choice? Was his rebellion from God his own will or was it part of God's plan for the world? The structure of Christianity (and most Abrahamic faiths) requires God to have an enemy, a corrupter of His perfect design, so that the terrible actions of others can be justified under the worldview of the faith. God is omniscient, He knew that Lucifer would rebel and be cast down, and He needed that to happen so there would be an enemy deity, someone to blame. Was Lucifer meant to rebel? And God is all-powerful, he could destroy Lucifer, but he doesn't. So that he can continue to be the enemy and corrupt humanity? So God is never to blame?

Did Eve disobey God when she ate the fruit of knowledge, or was that still God's own plan? Why was the tree even in the garden in the first place? There's a whole world outside Eden. How did the snake enter the garden at all, if its purpose was to tempt? Surely a loving god would protect their creations from something that could harm them. Did God allow the snake in to test Eve, did He put it in the garden on purpose? Did He set humanity up to fail so that we would worship His greatness forever, always beneath Him? Groveling for his forgiveness and light from our first breath? For Christian doctrine to work humanity needs to be unclean, and for us to be unclean there must be an impetus. Did Eve truly disobey, or was the command not to eat the fruit a façade to cover up God's true intention? If He created everything, then He created sin. And why does Eve's sin taint us all? Why must we be at fault for sins not our own? Were they sins at all?

Mary was born without original sin in her soul because she was always meant to be the mother of God. Always. Gabriel came down from Heaven to ask her if it was what she wanted, but she was already chosen, her 'yes' meant nothing more than her 'no' would've. Could she have said no at all? The narrative is controlled by men, how can we know if her words are her own? What chance does the will of a teenage girl have against the Almighty God? The author of reality. And God could remove Eve's actions from all of us, but He doesn't, why? How can a loving God make that decree? How can a loving God give a mother her child and plan to take them away? How can he kill a child before their parents?

Judas is like Lucifer. Jesus Christ must be crucified in order for Him to take on and cleanse the sins of humanity, and to be crucified He must be betrayed. Jesus knows Judas will betray Him, he knew all along, for the Father and the Son are one in the same. Did Judas ever truly have a choice to follow Christ's teachings, or was his path already chosen for him, and was he forced along the road by fate's invisible hand? Did Jesus ever try to stray his friend from that path? Did Christ's infinite love fall short for Judas? In the face of the 'grand plan'? Did God lead him into sin and eternal damnation for the 'greater good' of humanity? Was he always meant to be the sacrificial lamb? Who truly died for humanity then? Jesus rose after three days and resides in paradise, but Judas remains in Hell forever because of the God he was meant to put faith in.

Did any of them have free will, or were they just playing their assigned parts? Like marionettes on strings, dancing and singing to a tune that is meant to look like one of their own creations. Were their lives forfeit for God to place himself on a cosmic throne? Are ours?

#writing #catholic trauma #religious trauma #christianity #bible study #character study #lucifer #mother mary #virgin mary #catholic #judas iscariot #catholiscism

[nyxanarchy]

Every time something terrible happens I turn back to my fourteen self and the only thing I can think is the question "Where is God? Where is God? Where is God? Why doesn't he save me?" When Sylvia Plath said "I talk to God but the sky is empty" and when Mitski said "you believe me like a God, I'll betray you like a man"

#ex christian #ex catholic #catholic trauma #catholic guilt #religious trauma

[rheabops]

Nun meets the eldritch horror angel she’s been praying too (will they kiss??👀)

#illustration #catholic trauma #biblically accurate angel #lesbian nuns #nuns #stained glass #angels #artists on tumblr

[apostate-in-an-alcove]

A collection of small collages from one of my sketchbooks (X).

Please do not repost my work.

#ex catholic #ex christian #deconversion #religious trauma #apostate #excatholic #catholic trauma #catholic guilt #catholic imagery #blasphemy #venting #collage art #religioncore #traumacore

[seraphimfall]

i find the trend of getting offended at goth people for wearing rosaries so funny because it’s like,,,,, how do you know they’re not ex-catholic? how do you know they’re not irish? or polish? or mexican? or italian?

you gonna tell them they can’t interact with imagery from their own culture? pls lmao.

#after all it’s supposed to be a ‘universal church’ #|| the disciple || #ex catholic #folk catholicism #folk saints #ex christian #exvangelical #religious trauma #catholic gothic #deconvert #deconversion #goth aesthetic #apostate #apostasy #losing my religion #irish catholic #leaving the church #catholic trauma #religious guilt #Mexican catholic

[chronicsymptomsyndrome]

Enjoyment is a right of life, not a little treat earned through suffering. You don’t have to be miserable first to be worthy of joy. You’re not doing anything wrong by enjoying something. Your happiness doesn’t take away from others. Some of you (me) really need to be beaten over the head with this concept

#catholic trauma #its a work in progress #trauma recovery #cptsd healing #adhd autistic #late diagnosed autistic #autistic trauma #bpd #cptsd recovery #did osdd #neurodiversity #audhd #audhd problems #complex trauma #bpd stuff #childhood trauma #csa survivor #personality disorders #borderline stuff #bpd thoughts #family trauma #traumagenic #trauma disorders #polyfragmented #complex post traumatic stress disorder #religious trauma #trauma survivor #abuse survivor #mental health education #mental health matters

[faerieorgremlin]

Happy Jesus loves trans people day!!! Check out that glow up

#my art #digital art #digital illustration #drawing #illustration #transmasc #tdov #transmasc artist #trans artist #stigmata #catholic #catholiscism #ex catholic #catholic trauma #religious trauma