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vidavalor · 5 months

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hi again! rewatched the 1st season now. so first off thanks again for the excuse i appreciate it lol. but secondly hoping you wouldn't mind explaining the satan's obssession with crowley thing? cos he's obvs creepy as all hell pun not intended in the 11 years ago scene but i haven't found the bit that confirms it's a fixation on crowley and not just satan being satan. tysm!

Hi! Thanks for the ask. I can try and we can see what you think after, yeah? :) Christmas cookie? *passes plate and pours some tea*

TWs: discussion of PTSD, sexual assault, including rape, intimate partner abuse, anxiety, depression. We're looking at Crowley as an assault survivor here so it's a bit dark. Lindsay's abuse of Nina is also mentioned here. This will wind up having a companion meta at some point soon as I was also asked in comments on another post to talk about Crowley and intimacy issues which is then really also talking about Aziraphale as a trauma-informed partner so a less intense Part 2 at some point soon...

If you're the anon who asked me this (or anybody else) and you can't read something with these warnings but you'd like to see what I'm saying, PM me or throw something in my Asks and I'll see if I can do a version of this that gets the points across while omitting the darker aspects.

Meta on Lucifer and Crowley under the cut.

The Ask here was about why I see Lucifer as fixating on Crowley, in particular, and not just being generally evil as, ya know, he's Satan. It's a fair question since Satan's evil isn't exactly something that anyone would consider restrained as he's the devil. Some of this is inference here when it comes to Lucifer, since the show intentionally holds the character back a bit... but I also think that holding Lucifer back is by design to help illustrate some things that we'll look at here.

The first clue to me that Lucifer has a bit of a fixation on Crowley comes from Crowley's gigs in Hell. Before the end of S1, Crowley was high-ranked in Hell. He seems to go by quite a few names in his demonic world. By making himself Nanny Astoreth when he's looking after Warlock, it alludes the idea that Crowley is also the demon of that name, who is considered part of the "evil trinity" of Hell, along with Lucifer and Beezlebub, with whom Crowley used to spend time with pre-Fall and with whom he has history.

Astoreth is a genderbent serpent goddess in lore with an abundance of other Crowley traits so safe to say that Crowley is meant to be Astoreth as well. Aziraphale proposed in 33 AD that Crowley is also Mephistopheles and Asmodeus, which Crowley didn't exactly deny. Mephistopheles is one of the most famous demons to ever exist-- he of the Faustian bargain-- and Asmodeus is the demonic prince of lust. Crowley's already been shown to be a Bible figure in disguise-- Bildad the Shuite being a Biblical character-- so the idea that we are at the 2/3rds mark of the show and we've met all the high-ranking demons in Hell but several famous ones appear to not exist in Good Omens, despite more minor ones (Shax, Furfur) making appearances, implies that we probably actually have met demons like Mephistopheles and Asmodeus because they're all really Crowley.

Crowley retained power in Hell because it allows him what little freedom he can have in damnation. It means he likely won't be removed from Earth if he proves he's "good" at being a demon and that means he won't get stuffed in some cluttered, dark, cubicle in Hell for millennia. (Or destroyed.) More importantly, it means he'll be able to be on Earth with Aziraphale. That's easily worth taking credit for a bunch of human wars to fool Hell into thinking he's evil.

While we see that Crowley, when forced to come up with a demonic plot of his own, picks more annoying things than evil things and sells them as evil-- the M-25 design, taking down mobile phone networks, he's sometimes forced into doing things he doesn't want to do in order to not be outed as a demon who isn't super jazzed about being a demon and is really, secretly, a free-flying crow. He doesn't live to serve their Master Satan like some of the other demons do. He's going along with Hell as best he can and sometimes, he finds himself in a situation where he has to get creative because he's been tasked with something he disagrees with-- like we saw in the Job minisode. Other times, he might be forced into something he can't find a way out of, which is implied a little to be at the root of his terrible mood when he and Aziraphale meet up in Ancient Rome. He's wearing military garb that implies the temptations he's saying he's in Rome to accomplish are tied to Caligula, who wasn't exactly a swell guy.

What's interesting, though, is that Crowley is in this position of power in the first place. Other demons are shown in both seasons so far to be jealous of Crowley. He gets all the good gigs. Satan makes a bet with God that has both Upstairs and Downstairs in a tizzy for weeks and who is sent to whack the kids? Crowley. Who was sent on the first ever really Earth mission-- to get up into the Garden of Eden and "make some trouble"? Crowley, long before he'd cemented his big reputation. Who gets to deliver the antichrist baby and so kick off Armageddon, the thing that angels and demons basically "live" for? Crowley...

Across both seasons so far, Hastur, Ligur and Furfur are all given scenes of showing that they're jealous of Crowley being a favorite of Satan's and given the best assignments while they slum it in middle-management at best. What Crowley never says or admits to with other demons is that they actually don't want to be the favorite of Lucifer over here because he's the actual fucking devil and it's an absolute horror show. Crowley isn't about to admit that to them because he's supposed to want nothing more than to be Satan's slave and to express anything else is not demonic.

The other demons who are antagonistic towards Crowley are invasive and creepy but they stop short long before what we've seen Lucifer do. Hastur and Ligur pop up unannounced in Crowley's electronics-- the tv in his flat, on the screen at the movies-- and that's already disturbing. Imagine having your evil coworkers able to interrupt your r&r tv time in your own apartment... let alone the fact that Shax and even Beezlebub both pop up into The Bentley unannounced in S2. There's no evidence so far that Satan is out here "delivering instructions" like this to others in Hell the way he does to Crowley in 1.01 (and there's actually a scene in S2 that we'll talk about that suggests that he's not or, at least, that it's uncommon, which we'll get to in a second.)

He might well be but when you combine assaulting Crowley with giving him all the prime gigs in Hell and the other demons' jealousy of their Master's attention towards Crowley, you wind up with the impression that Satan is a bit fixated on Crowley.

The Bentley scene with Lucifer in 1.01 is analogous to rape. Crowley's sense of personal autonomy is violated. He doesn't consent to Lucifer forcibly entering his body. Lucifer does so by first penetrating through Crowley's two foremost metaphorical defenses-- The Bentley (enters through the radio and uses it to invade Crowley) and his sunglasses, which cannot shield his eyes/himself from Lucifer. Crowley already has these signature defenses mechanisms on in the attack scene and the horror in the scene is actually watching neither of them protect him. The scene is so early in the show that it's only the second scene we've ever seen Crowley wearing his glasses (and it's pitch black dark out, to add to it) so the glasses are basically introduced to us by showing us a situation that motivates Crowley's desire to hide his eyes from people he doesn't trust, even if they aren't human and know what his eyes look like. This is Crowley's third scene in the series itself and it's really arguably the second half of his second scene (the Hastur & Ligur in the graveyard one.) It's part of our introduction to Crowley in the modern era, with only Eden preceding it. Armageddon is new but the rest of this hell-- faking being evil, suffering violating attacks-- is thousands of years old for him at this point.

Crowley is driving when this happens.

Driving is the ultimate symbol of self-control because you're literally behind the wheel, navigating yourself through the world, in control of where you are going and the decisions you need to make to get you there, trusting yourself to make decisions that protect others on the road around you. Lucifer rips that from him by rendering him unable to drive while "delivering instructions" to his mind. Crowley-- a very powerful, magical being-- is unable to fight him off. When Lucifer leaves his body, Crowley had to grab the wheel and steer The Bentley away from hitting an oncoming truck with about three seconds to spare from a head-on collision. Crowley, The Bentley and the antichrist baby all would have likely survived that crash without issue because of their magic-- but the human driving the truck likely would not have. Obviously, Crowley would prefer not to kill anybody but Satan nearly made him against his will and rendered him unable to fight him, the powerlessness of which is then interesting when tied into things like Crowley essentially drugging himself to save Elspeth, trusting the present Aziraphale to help protect him while he did, etc..

As the attack happens, parts of "Bohemian Rhapsody" are underscoring it, picking up on a musical cue from when Crowley rolled up in The Bentley to see Hastur and Ligur in the graveyard. The graveyard scene sees Crowley arrive at the big crescendo of the song and what is it but the lyrics Beezlebub, has the devil put aside for me? and, prior to that, the eerie lyrics, especially on rewatch when you know what happens as a result of this scene: we will not let you go (let him go) x a million, not to mention the no no no no no no... bit.

By the time we're back in The Bentley and Lucifer has shown up, parts of the song play through it. I see a little silhouetto of a man plays as Crowley is literally seeing the driver of the oncoming truck in front of him, just as he loses the ability to control The Bentley. When Lucifer leaves him and Crowley grabs the wheel, we hear thunderbolts and lightning/very, very frightening/me and the Galileo segment of the song. Thunderbolts and lightning is interesting since God makes it a point to point out that this night is not dark and stormy but then that type of weather is what Crowley does in S2 that causes the power to go out and his parallel, Nina, to be trapped. It's also what demons in general can do so you could say sending a storm-- like in the Job minisode-- to be demonic and of Satan. (If it's not Crowley doing it to play Cupid, anyway.) The thunderbolts and lightning of Satan/Hell is very, very frightening to Crowley...

...Me/Galileo/Galileo/Galileo/Figaro... Galileo is arguably the most famous astronomer to ever live. He was a polymath, really, like Crowley was. Crowley, as an angel, made the stars and invented gravity. The scene with Hastur and Ligur that precedes this and ties into it has Hastur mistranslate the Italian Crowley spoke during it. Crowley said "ciao", meaning "goodbye", which Hastur correctly said was Italian but he claimed it meant "food" (mistaking it for "chow" because he's an idiot.) So a scene that ends with Crowley speaking Italian then connects directly into the scene of this attack, where Italian is spoken in the song scoring it, as Galileo was Italian and figaro in Italian is "fig tree".

While Eve does eat an apple in Good Omens, the Biblical 'fruits of knowledge' that tie to the Serpent tempting Eve in Eden are interpreted in different ways throughout different religions and at different periods in history. In Good Omens, Crowley got Eve to eat an apple and the pleasure of food opened a door to sexual pleasure. Eve shared the apple with Adam and they were *Aziraphale's hilariously judgemental voice* "expecting already" with Eve about 8 months pregnant later a day later because Eve's biology is atypical of other humans and all that. It's debated as an apple, with other different fruits and sometimes even wheat mentioned as possible things Eve ate-- if she ate food at all, as some people take the entire thing as a sexual metaphor. Figs are one fruit that some people believe it was instead of an apple, so this is a reference to Crowley as the Serpent of Eden.

Me/Galileo/Galileo/Galileo/Figaro... Crowley holding onto himself while under attack and just after it, which speaks to activation of a plan, which speaks to this not being the first time he's endured something like this. Galileo and Figaro = The Starmaker and the Serpent of Eden. The things he's done that he is proud of, that make him not evil, in his mind, and not deserving of this. Things he likes about himself. Things Aziraphale loves about him.

The song is narrating for us Crowley through the attack as he's basically frozen there enduring it, seeing the driver of the truck coming at him and Scaramouche/Scaramouche/Will you do The Fandango?

A scaramouche is a kind of mischievous scamp-- so, Crowley; The Fandango is a Spanish couple dance. Historically, one version of it is done between a pair of men who try to outdo one another with skill, in a kind of homoerotic competition. It's also slang for fucking during a concert and I have the feeling that Crowley would probably enjoying doing that Fandango a lot more as that would be consenting with a partner of his choice at a live concert rather than being mind-raped to Queen by the devil in his car. Regardless, it's another allusion to sex in the scene, adding to the rape overtones.

There's also something that is pretty horrifying about the fact that these scenes of Crowley and Aziraphale being separately reintroduced to us in 2008 after we first met them both together in Eden are intercut so that Lucifer's attack on Crowley scored by "Bohemian Rhapsody" ends with the Italian sung and cuts directly into Aziraphale speaking Japanese to the chef at the sushi restaurant.

He'll try to explain to Gabriel that eating sushi is "what humans do", which is the same phrase he'll use to try to explain to Michael and Uriel in S2 what falling in love is. During the bookshop attack, Shax will bully Aziraphale about his humanity-- about the same two things (food and love) in the two previous, connected scenes. (Gabriel, initially the one repulsed by tea in 1.01, leaves the scene after Aziraphale tells him to hide by asking if anyone wants a hot chocolate, in a pretty hilarious turnabout.) Shax calls back to the food-related and the love-related "it's what humans do" moments for Aziraphale by asking if she should "send up the sushi" and by mocking his relationship with Crowley ("What are you? Crowley's emotional support angel?"). Crowley and Aziraphale are the ones in love and it's tied together throughout multiple scenes in both seasons to sushi, in reference to the night Armageddon began in 2008.

The point then is that, making this all even worse, Crowley is actually supposed to be at a back corner table in a dark sushi restaurant sneaking a date with Aziraphale when he's attacked by Lucifer in The Bentley-- and then forced into helping start Armageddon, which could bring about the end of his and Aziraphale's relationship... and that's our grim introduction to his world in the modern part of the story.

As we go learn what Aziraphale is like in the modern era and contrast him with his head office's mentality via Gabriel's arrival, we also are given clues in the scene that suggest that Aziraphale was actually expecting Crowley, as he looks to the side Crowley comes up on when he hears the miracle sound that actually signals Gabriel's arrival instead. Aziraphale will then explain that he's there, doing "what humans do" and enjoying it, to Gabriel, and it will be only eating sushi in this moment, just as Crowley will not be present when Aziraphale explains that falling in love is "what humans do" while objectively talking about Maggie & Nina but, ultimately, talking about himself and Crowley beneath it-- his real motivation for keeping Heaven off their backs is Crowley. The writers then have Shax combine the two "it's what humans do" scenes around love and sushi and throw them back at Aziraphale while Crowley is once again not with him because of Heaven/Hell but is present in his absence in the moment.

All of this happens in the first scenes of Crowley in the modern era, all the way back in the first episode, and it's done to give us an understanding that he is a survivor of attacks like this and how that impacts his behavior, his choices, his relationship with Aziraphale. It's to give us a finer appreciation for his strength and his humor and his capacity to love in the face of it. It's to show that while some of the demons are just kind of amusing idiots, if dangerous, and that there's a lot of humor to mine there, some aspects of being a demon are not at all amusing. Crowley is really just doing the best he can to survive the absolute horror show that is an eternity of damnation as Satan's favorite over here because there are very dark, very violent aspects of it that he cannot permanently avoid.

While the attack we are shown is a mercifully short, if horrifying, scene, the implications of it are even worse. The assault we are shown had a plot purpose in that moment-- Satan giving instructions on delivering the antichrist baby to the satanic nunnery-- and since everything was in motion, that was the extent of it. Armageddon took precedence. What we are left with, though, is the impression that this type of demonic assault with its massive rape overtones is something that Crowley's experienced before and that the implication is that Lucifer attacking him is not always just to deliver a message related to an assignment but to deliver one of forcible control over him and that this is something that Crowley has been dealing with periodically for the 6,000 years he's been on Earth. It's akin to a kind of rape in 1.01 and that is already way more than enough to see how that would affect Crowley in the story... but then S2 takes this scene and both alludes to it in a key moment and gives it a whole paralleling subplot, highlighting its importance and continuing to expand upon the meaning of it. Both things together then suggest that while we saw a rape-coded assault in 1.01, the feeling that the scene was alluding to other instances where it was rape itself was definitely the implication of it.

In S2, in the group scene at the end, Crowley is out of the bookshop taking Maggie and Nina away from the angels for their safety when the subject of Satan comes up for the only direct time that season. Shax demands that Gabriel and Beezlebub be taken to Hell to be given "as gifts for Satan, our Master" and Head of the Dark Council Dagon replies that "he wouldn't want them-- maybe as hors d'ouerves." On the show obsessed with food symbolism and that codes different types of food with relation to sex-- in particular, because of Serpent of Eden Crowley-- and with the brothel owner named "Mrs. Sandwich", to say someone would want a being as a "hors d'ouerves" implies sex and if we're talking about Lucifer, then we've already established that consent isn't exactly a priority. Rape isn't about sex-- it's about power-- but the show is coding Lucifer's behavior in line with its coding of sex to highlight that his violation of Crowley isn't just of the heavily rape-coded variety that we saw in 1.01 but has actually, at other times, been rape.

Dagon's most significant line in S2 is essentially to point out that Satan's a rapist-- but it's also to point out that not everyone in Hell has been through that horror. Satan's choosy. Satan's a bit fixated. Dagon's comment is actually surprising. Your first thought when Shax suggests giving Gabriel and Beez to Lucifer is that he's the devil so they'd be in danger and what you've seen of what he's done to Crowley was skin-crawling and you don't want that to happen to Gabriel and Beezlebub. You assume that it might because we're talking about Satan but then Dagon puts a check on that and says-- to not a single bit of even implied disagreement in the room-- that Satan wouldn't really care that much about getting Gabriel and Beez.

Think about how truly kind of crazy that is.

Satan would not be that interested in being handed over his old friend and the Grand Duke of Hell who betrayed him and the Supreme Archangel of Heaven? He'd maybe rape 'em, sure, possibly, casually posits Dagon, but they aren't what he's really after. They'd just be hors d'ouerves.

Not a single being in the room even so much as signals disagreement with that assessment that the not terribly subtle Dagon chose to voice aloud, which means they all agree with her. They all know who Lucifer's fixated on.

*Gabriel* and *Beezlebub* would only be fucking *appetizers* to Satan.

That implies the existence of *a main course*, does it not?

Who else but Crowley (and Aziraphale) could be on that menu? No one.

We also have that Crowley is conveniently out of the bookshop for the moment that Shax and Dagon have this exchange about Lucifer. He comes back in on Dagon saying "hors d'ouerves" but was outside when Shax was referencing Satan so he didn't hear any of it. This seems very deliberate on the part of the writers, as if Crowley had been in the room, it would have prompted some kind of response and changed what happened in the scene afterwards. Instead, the only reference to Lucifer is specifically when Crowley isn't in the room, probably because this conflict is on-going and going to continue into S3.

Prior to Dagon's line, the show also paralleled Lucifer assaulting Crowley in The Bentley in 1.01 with Lindsay abusing Nina, which adds another layer into this. You could even make an argument that one of the reasons why we never see Lindsay and we just see their abuse of Nina via the text messages they send Nina is to draw an intentional parallel to how little we've seen to date of Lucifer/Satan in the series.

It directly ties to the 1.01 scene in The Bentley because, prior to Lucifer coming through the radio and assaulting Crowley, Crowley was trying to call Aziraphale (the Maggie to his Nina in this parallel, though obviously much further along in that relationship) to tell him about Armageddon but he'd taken out the mobile phone networks earlier in the night to have something demonic to share with Hastur and Ligur. This parallels Crowley knocking out the power in S2 accidentally and Nina getting locked in the coffee shop with Maggie. Lucifer and Lindsay both attack through electronic communication devices-- The Bentley's radio and Nina's phone-- and unleash a torrent of abuse. The difference is that Nina might be more easily able to escape Lindsay and live a more peaceful life after S2 while Crowley has yet to be truly able to evade Lucifer.

While Lindsay's abuse of Nina is at least psychological and emotional in what we are shown and Lucifer's abuse of Crowley is that with physical and sexual aspects that may or may not be present in Nina's relationship with Lindsay, the type of abuse doesn't matter to the parallel as it's all terrible and that's the point. Lucifer's abuse of Crowley is paralleled with the intimate partner abuse Nina is suffering in her relationship. This is objectively pretty interesting since it sort of suggests that Lucifer is Crowley's Lindsay, in the sense that they might have once been involved pre-Fall, which might add another element to why Lucifer is fixated on Crowley.

So, while Crowley can encourage his parallel Nina all he wants to take a risk and trust more and to trust him when he promises that it will be worth it, Crowley himself can't really extract himself from his own Lindsay-ish situation yet. He does know how to survive it, though, and it's not all about the defenses he and Nina put up-- it's about learning to shed some of those defenses enough to have a sense of intimacy with a kind person you can trust to love you and help you feel safe.

#ineffable husbands #good omens #crowley #aziraphale #good omens 2 #good omens meta #aziracrow

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optimisticstudentangel · 9 months

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Random headcanons of the demon brothers

Lucifer sometimes likes to play around with his brothers. He joins their silly schemes, and pretends as if he is not happy about it. Lucifer does this so that his younger brothers do not relax too much with their wishes. He also likes that his brothers continue to include him in their shenanigans, despite the fact that he may be busy or tired.

Mammon sometimes has moments when he really wants something sweet. In such cases, he often turns to Luke for his pastries. Luke may not immediately agree with Mammon's order, but still eventually brings him his homemade sweets. Such sudden cravings usually appear due to unexpected sadness or when Mammon is lonely. It could also be an excuse to talk to Luke. In return for Luke's baking, Mammon prepares his favorite spicy noodles for him, reducing the spicyness to the minimum.

Leviathan is very good at languages. It's all because some of his favorite comics, novels, books were not translated into his preferred language for a long time. At such moments, he studied in depth the languages in which the manga, book, anime, etc. was written. It also seems to me that he just likes to brag to people about jokes in the original language. He begins to create long posts about the brilliance of these jokes and begins to pity those who do not know the language in order to fully enjoy the show, book, comics in the native language.

Satan sometimes reduces his anger level with the help of sports. He read that physical activity helps well to control anger, or at least helps to overcome it in a healthier way. He especially likes martial arts, he and Beel often train together. Asmo, having learned that Satan is looking for new ways to resist his anger, offered to do yoga with him. It indeed helped him too.

Every evening Asmo writes his thoughts in a diary. None of the brothers knows about his little secret. In this diary, he writes down what worries him about his insecurities and feelings. This helps him a little to ease what has been troubling him in his own thoughts for a long time. He also writes down his dreams there, he really likes to analyze his own dreams very much, looking for hidden symbols and meanings there.

Beel likes to collect cute little things. It all started quite spontaneously when Belphie gave him a crystal mini star before his "departure to the human world". Since then, the brothers sometimes gave him something miniature to add to his collection of cute little things. Beel is very careful with them, slowly wiping them from dust. It looks very cute seeing him acting so gentle with the small gifts.

Belphegor is very fond of soft and pleasant to the touch fabric. When he is in the mood, he puts on clothes with a soft cloth before going to bed to make himself even more comfortable. Asmo, having learned this fact, decided to order clothes with that kind of fabric, so that Belphie could always feel cozy. Belphegor really liked the design chosen for him by Asmo.

#obey me #obey me fanfic #obey me scenarios #obey me shall we date #obey me demon brothers #obey me lucifer #obey me mammon #obey me leviathan #obey me satan #obey me asmodeus #obey me beelzebub #obey me belphegor

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666writingcafe · 6 days

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Past, Present, and Future

The human's name is MC. They were simply an exchange student at a school the prince founded, but after forming pacts with seven of the most powerful demons in the Devildom and finding out that they're distantly related to an angel, they're now linked to the Devildom for the foreseeable future.

Judging by how protective Satan is towards them, I suspect he's one of the demons MC has a pact with. Asmo's probably another, which means that most likely, we're the ones MC's referring to.

Oddly enough, it doesn't seem too far-fetched to me. There's something unusually captivating about MC. I find myself hanging onto their every word.

And then I notice it. The ring on their finger. I didn't think too much of it at first, since it's a simple black band, but when the light hit it just now, it glinted like gold.

"Can I see your hand for a second, MC?" I ask. They comply, and I take a closer look at the ring. Even though they nearly blend into the black, the engraved design on it matches the one on mine.

What's more, the ring appears to have fused onto their finger, making it impossible to take off. Just like mine.

"Did I give this to you?"

"Indirectly, yes," they answer. "You gave it to an ex to safeguard it, and she gave it to me. It helps stabilize my power, you see. Prevents it from destroying the three realms."

"Who has the other ring?" MC's confused. Satan, on the other hand, promptly answers,

"Solomon." Well, that's interesting. That's the name of the human sorcerer Michael's taken an interest in recently.

"What are you guys talking about?" MC asks.

"The Ring of Light has a sister: the Ring of Wisdom," Satan explains. "They were created specifically for Lucifer and Michael respectively. Michael gave his ring to Solomon after the war, and obviously you have Lucifer's."

"Right...and this is significant because?" My turn.

"As a result of the rings' power, my soul has become intertwined with Michael's. We're essentially one entity housed in two bodies. The fall must have severed our connection, making it necessary for the rings to find new heirs." I pause. "Do you have any connection to this Solomon fellow?"

"I'm his apprentice." Well, then. It seems as though the process has already begun.

"I want you to be careful, MC. The connection you now share with Solomon has the power to change worlds, but being that close to him can also drive you mad. Just...make sure you keep your wits about you." MC nods as I let go of their hand, and we continue walking.

Eventually, we make our way to one of the observatories.

"If your Simeon is the same as mine, he's probably in here," I explain. "He finds it quiet and secluded enough for him to collect his thoughts."

"Is there anything else you'd like to know before we part ways?" MC asks.

"I think I've heard enough. I would, however, like to pass along a message, if you don't mind." Satan and MC glance at each other, and Satan shrugs. I dig around in my robe pockets until I find my notepad and pen. Using part of the building as a flat surface, I write the following note on a blank sheet of paper:

ᔕ,

ᗩᗰOᖇ ᐯIᑎᑕIT OᗰᑎIᗩ.

-ᒪ

(Transcription: S, Amor vincit omnia. -L)

Tearing the note off, I fold it and hand it to MC.

"Give this to Simeon. He'll understand what it means." As MC sticks the note in their pocket, I open the door to the observatory.

"Thank you," I tell them as they head inside. "For everything."

#obey me shall we date #obey me lucifer #obey me mc #obey me satan #obey me simeon

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soshaaaa · 7 months

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Some time ago i made redesign of all brothers. I haven't posted it in here yet, so here it is!

Also i made redesign of my OM!OC together woth em all, so i also pit it in this post♡

I showed Asmo and Sosha redesign in another post, but i hope you are not angry at me for that😇

CHANGES:

Lucifuk

-Since he is staying up all night, i made his clothes more messy. Yeah, now he looks like single mother of 6. I feel like nights at Devildom should be hella cold. So i now his clothes are warmer.

-Glasses.

-More blue. He still have a lot of Gold and Red, but now you can see at least a little bit of his sin colour.

Mammy

-I THINK WE ALL CAN AGREE that Mammon is that type of ppl who would wear EVERY SINGLE gold thing he has, just to look more rich.

-Also i think he would wear some stupid accessory, like eyepatch and thinking he looks cool and badass. But he actually looks good with eyepatch tho-

-His skin is darker now, he have some gold/yellow hair strands and piercings. Yeah this dude feels like piercing lover. Maybe he also have tattoo or smth.

Leviafish

-Another character who have 0 of his sin's colour on their orig design. Now he has some orange.

-He is otaku, he DEFINITELY don't have time to get a haircut! And long hair Levi sounds good.

-His orig design was gamer. THIS ONE IS A NERD OTAKU! Some anime accessories, hair clips, stickers, HELL YEAH.

Catan

-Satan is just Lucifer's wrath, this would be logical if they had similar appearance. And, this would make Satan even MORE angry.

-Braid... it has no explanation. I just gave him braid because i wanted.

-Now he looks less ugly + his outfit has cats now.

MY♡SWEET♡LITTLE♡HONEYBUN♡CUTE♡PUP♡LOVELY♡HUN♡BEST♡BOY♡PRECIOUS♡HUSBAND♡ANDGORGEOUS♡QUEEEN♡ASSMODEUS!!!♡♡♡♡♡

-How he definitely is avatar of lust! Open outfit, gorgeous and hoey.

-Now his hair is pretty and fluffy like a cotton candy.

-BEST ONE ABSOLUTELY YES

Beelzeburger

-Another one with no sin colour! But i added more red.

-Beel and Belfie are twins, but their designs are very different. I gave them more matching elements, like little braids, vitiligo and eyes. Also Beel have some porpol in his clothes, while Belfie has some red.

-Eyebrow piercing... Sorry, but it cools sooo cool on him! Also tattoo!

Belfukgore

-Another person who doesn't have enough time for haircut, so half-long hair. He is constantly sleeping, so his hair is messy.

-His orig design is not sleepy enough! Now he is wearing pijama. Yeas, i am extra.

-Also yes, this transparent porpol-red thing makes no sense. But it looks hella cool!

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lenaellsi · 9 months

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On archangels and Crowley's former rank in good omens 2:

Thought I'd do a brief post putting together my updated view on Heaven's archangel hierarchy, based on both this post by Neil and the lore drops in season 2.

"I wasn't the original concept designer, but I worked very closely with upstairs." "You know how God likes sevens." "The kind of miracle only the mightiest of archangels could have performed." "How do you know I didn't do it?" "That arch traitor Crowley--" "I am the only first order archangel in the room--or, you know, the universe--" (extended cut to Crowley) "You'd have to be a Throne, a Dominion, or above." "He always did want to go his own way. Always asking damn fool questions." "Let there be light."

Proposed hierarchy of good omens archangels:

First Order: Gabriel (former); Lucifer, now Satan (former); [REDACTED], now Crowley (former); Aziraphale (current, replacement)

Second Order: Michael; Uriel (higher than the others, but beneath the first order archangels)

Third Order: Saraqael (she defers to Michael and Uriel in her first scene, but is important enough to be present at Gabriel's trial); Sandalphon (Neil has referred to him as a 'lesser archangel')

Points of confusion:

"For one prince of Heaven to be cast into the outer darkness makes a good story. For it to happen twice makes it look like there is some kind of institutional problem."

This quote is almost certainly referring to Lucifer. Obviously this cuts against the theory that Crowley was a first order archangel, though idk what was up with the editing in that scene if that's the case. They cut to him immediately after Gabriel says the line.

Baraqiel. Dominion. Angel of the Sky. Appearance: Hair an eye-burning jinnjer. Eyebrows with the appearance of a grisly slug. Often draped in red. Occashunly damp, most likely singed.

Lots of people have been talking about this page from Furfur's angel spotting guide:

I'm of the opinion that this probably (though it's possible) wouldn't be in the prop book and shown for so long on screen if it wasn't A Clue. The page would've looked fine with just Aziraphale's information. Entirely possible that it's just hinting at a new character for season 3, but the description sounds enough like Crowley that I'm suspicious. (Eye-burning ginger.)

Of course, this cuts against the archangel Crowley theory, but all we know for sure is that he was a Throne or Dominion or above. It's possible that I'm just reading too much into all the other hints that seem to point to him being an archangel. (Though for what it's worth, Baraqiel is known as an archangel outside of Good Omens canon, and is also known as "lightning of God," which is very interesting in a season where Crowley summons both a tempest and a bolt of lightning.)

Would love to hear what people think! I know a million people have been talking about this, I just wanted to organize my own thoughts.

#the way a week ago i would have literally never made a 'crowley is an archangel' post. literally never.#but i can't ignore it when canon bashes me over the head with it #here's how kokabiel crowley can still win--#good omens spoilers #gos2 spoilers #good omens season 2 #good omens #crowley #good omens meta

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geekgirles · 9 months

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i see NOTHING circus-themed in bee's design 😭 she just looks like a cluttered genero mess k can't believe we got her after asmodeus

Personally, I adore Bee's design, but I must admit it took me an embarrassing long amount of time to realise she was indeed the show's version of Beelzebub and not another character altogether. Seriously, until I first came to Tumblr after the episode's release and saw people saying she was the Lord of Gluttony herself (which I get she literally introduced herself as, it's just that Cotton Candy had way too much going on for me to lock onto that particular detail), I was convinced she was supposed to be like a "higher class" breed of Hellhound.

Like, I thought she was Beelzebub's pet and that somehow made her more powerful and different from other Hellhounds; I legit thought that was why her name was practically the same but with a hyphen. I was legitemately convinced she was some sort of "tailor-made" Hellhound made to resemble her master Beelzebub more closely to make her stand out from the regular Hellhounds. Though the reason behind this misundertanding is due to her mention of Belphegor not letting her use her party drugs. I misheard her, thinking she said Beelzebub, and immediately assumed she was subservient to her instead of, well, being her.

Having said that, I do think Bee's design is appropriate. It just represents and reflects so much behind-the-scenes stuff!

Firstly, we have, of course, the inlusion of Kesha. I'd say Vivziepop owes a huge chunk of her fame to her Die Young animatic featuring her werewolf character, Jay Jay, singing the song in what was essentially a tribute to the artist. So with that in mind, it's obvious Bee's more canine design is clearly the crew's way of saying they've finally come full circle now that they got Kesha herself to voice a character for them. Further proof of it is that obvious reference when Bee even ended looking like Jay Jay during Cotton Candy by getting Jay's blue fur and pink hair.

(Well, to be fair, Jay Jay began appearing more often with light blue fur and bright pink hair after she debuted in Die Young, but I remember a sneak peek of another animatic where she would have her later colour palette and be singing Kesha's C'mon. So the point still stands).

Secondly, I personally think she does embody the circus troop theme, deep down, just maybe not in the way you'd expect her to.

Just like Lucifer and Ozzie's are ringmasters and Mammon is a jester, Bee is supposed to represent confectionary stands (hence, her constantly conjuring up fast food and sweets) and animal acts. Now, if you ask me, I'd say the animal act side of her is both very subtle and incredibly on the nose, as much of an oxymoron as that is.

On the one hand, the only thing really reminiscent of animal acts are the hoops and loops she has around her house, which are very easy to overlook.

But on the other hand, there's also the fact that her subjects are Hellhounds, or at the very least they seem to feel the most at home with her. In fact, Loona's adoption papers have her signature, meaning she oversees the process to some degree.

In a way, the Deadly Sins resembling their subjects is another recurrent trait, though Asmodeus looking nothing like a succubus is a clear exception (and Mammon seems to be a literal money tree).

We have Lucifer, whose Ring is mostly inhabited by Sinners and his standard form is the most human-looking one...

There's Bee being essentially an alpha Hellhound (Fox)-Bee Hybrid...

And if his app is anything to go by, Satan might just as well end up being a more powerful kind of Imp.

For all we know, Belphegor might be a Baphomet too! Especially seeing as the Sloth Ring seems to be mostly populated by them.

(I know this one in particular works in the Lust Ring, but you know what I mean).

And there's also the fact that it seems to be a reference to the Divine Comedy, if my memory doesn't fail me, where the Gluttony Ring was inhabited by Cerberus. So in that respect, Bee being a Hellhound is very consistent, especially because going back to the act she's supposed to represent, her ruling over Hellhounds essentially turns her into a beast master!

And of course, we can't forget she's supposed to represent Gluttony, over-consumption, over-indulgence, excess... All things that can easily be found in wild, out-of-control parties. And what is Bee's character deep down? A literal party animal!

So yeah, in my humble opinion, Queen Bee-lzebub is both a very imaginative and faithful take on her character, as well as the character that best reflects how far Vivziepop and Spindlehorse have come. Though that might just me being biased by how much I love her design LOL.

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hello hiii dcd anon (i’ll just use 🤡 anon from now on its easier) here, i hope i’m not making too many requests i’m very sorry if i am

a thought i’ve had for like a while is how demon skin works like, i feel like it’s less stretchy and soft to the touch than human skin because demons are simply just tougher, and also it heals faster. so what i am trying to get at is that demons probably don’t have like stretch marks? it rarely gets to a point their skin would do such a thing and even if it does it heals very fast so it’s not ever acknowledged.

so what about mc with like an abundance of stretch marks? like i can somewhat confidently say at least 15% of my body is just purple lines everywhere so i wonder how would the brothers react to that? once again sorry if i’m doing too many requests

it's alright ! all your requests are so fun to do so don't feel bad about them ! they're topics that i really like learning about

the brothers with an mc who has stretch marks

heads up: gn!mc, hc that demons and angels alike get stretch marks when overworking

lucifer

is probably curious about it

"so you're telling me humans don't smoothen out their skin easily? i see, i see"

probably doesn't even care, if you're still alive even with that abundant of stretch marks, there shouldn't be any problems

he might think it's a condition you're not telling him though

he'll try to rub pride on you if you're insecure about them

you're great just the way you are, mc. your appearance isn't going to change the person you are today

mammon

"what the hell happened to ya?????"

pretends he isn't worried, but he totally is

he'd ask a lot about how you got them because as far as he knew, demons get them when doing lotsa strenuous work

so at first he'd say you're stupid and to stop overworking

when you probably tell him it's not because of that he blanks

he'll understood soon enough

but he'll bark at people who'd look at you weirdly

leviathan

he raises an eyebrow at you

dang, what happened?

wouldn't speak it out though, afraid you're insecure and you'd dislike him

if you're self-conscious about it and see someone with "better" skin than you, he'd feel envy off of you right off the bat

he'd try to comfort you as much as he can

he likes sewing, so if you're insecure, he'd sew some clothes for you to make you feel better and look "prettier"

you're already pretty/handsome/great/awesome/good in his eyes, mc

satan

"i've read humans don't heal easily like demons, but i didn't expect this..."

he didn't mean it in a bad way, though. he'd have to assure you, he's just curious

he thinks it makes you prettier, because it's unique on you

encourages you to accept yourself, because these don't make you less beautiful

he turns demons who make fun of you into shreds behind your back

asmodeus

oh, sweetheart! those marks look so beautiful!

this man sees art in everything, so it's like seeing some intricate designs on your body, and he absolutely loves it

he offers you some soothing lotions though, because he knows they're not normal

if you're insecure about it, he'll absolutely fight you because honey, you're so beautiful!

you shouldn't think that way, it makes him sad

spa days bi-weekly to help soothe your marks

he destroys every demon's social lives when they make fun of you even just once

beelzebub

oh, you have marks, mc?

he sometimes gets them when he exercises a lot, so it's nothing new to him

but why aren't they going away for you

oh right, you're human

you look nothing different to him, anyway, it doesn't matter to him

he'd eat the people who'd look at you wrong

belphegor

this is why you should always nap with him, mc, now look, you've got marks-

oh, they've always been there on you?

he'd grimace since he sees stretch marks as a sign of lack of sloth, but he wouldn't judge you

would always use it as an excuse to cuddle with you though

demons looking at you wrong? eternal sleep, it is

IM SO SORRY THIS TOOK SO LONG I WAS SO BUSY :SOB: IM SORRY THEYRE SHORTER TOO RGAHH

#love them #remember to love yourselves you guys #obey me #omswd #obey me lucifer #obey me mammon #obey me leviathan #obey me asmodeus #obey me beelzebub #obey me belphegor #obey me satan #anon ask

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gefdreamsofthesea · 2 months

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Spot the lie: Shin Megami Tensei edition

Note: I'm including everything under the SMT label in English except the Persona games. No I don't care if they're technically part of another subseries in Japan. Also, these apply to the original releases. I know some have been updated but I haven't played them.

I especially want to hear from people who haven't played them because this feels too easy for a veteran.

Poll results are in and I'm very disappointed that only 3.7% of you got it right.

I will now reveal the correct answers:

1. TRUE - The first major boss in Devil Survivor, Beldr, can only be killed by mistletoe, a mistletoe-shaped cellphone strap is just as effective.

2. TRUE - Yggdrasil is sapient and steals time warping powers from the Disir. The protagonist has to go back in time to save themselves with the help of the Norns (who have evolved from the Disir who gave him the quest, you know like Pokemon)

3. TRUE - Dante made a guest appearance in the original release of SMT Nocturne. Later versions replaced him with Raidou Kuzunoha, the protagonist of two games in the Devil Summoner spinoff series

4. TRUE - It's ordinary literature, there's nothing wrong with it the citizens of the Eastern Kingdom of Mikado are just that brainwashed

5. TRUE - The entry is in Strange Journey. "Originally, he looked like an abominable snowman, but perhaps he changed form to more efficiently freeze people."

6. TRUE - The bondage angel design debuted in SMT 2. Here's a screenshot of SMT 1 showing its original design.

7. TRUE - A lot of people voted for this one but it's actually true. Cerberus' single head is a reference to the original novel the series is based on (Digital Devil Story). He is depicted with three heads in SMT: IMAGINE, Soul Hackers, and Digital Devil Saga.

8. TRUE - I did not know the origin of David's name myself so I looked it up. His design is possibly a reference to the poem Danse Macabre by Camille Saint-Saens.

9. FALSE (ish) - It's actually the reverse: Astaroth wishes to become the goddess Ishtar (technically to return to being Ishtar but in game terms Ishtar is treated as his "evolution"). He is usually required in order to fuse her. In some games, the two don't appear to be connected at all.

10. TRUE - As the accuser, Satan is part of the Law alignment (and therefore on YHVH's side) against Lucifer, who (usually) represents the Chaos alignment. His role in SMT IV Apocalypse is more complicated.

Anyways good job everyone. Everyone gets a cookie.

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vonnez · 2 years

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MC AS A STREAMER

demon brothers x mc. gender neutral mc. mentions of make-up.

a random thought i had a few days ago. <3

link page.

LUCIFER

he's going to act like parent once you decide to tell him. probably a lot of questions regarding your income, safety, audience, etc.

although, he won't interrupt your streams (unless if needed). he's an old man who doesn't know anything about it, but is still supportive enough to allow it.

MAMMON

he's confused and probably tells you that you're like levi. he doesn't understand it, not until you tell him your income (depending if you're a popular streamer or not). if you got the money he needs, he's taking it.

"c'mon, MC! i'm your best friend; THE GREAT MAMMON!! just lend me a couple dollars, won't 'ya? i'll pay 'ya back!"

will probably get you a spot as a model in one of his shoots, though (for fan service, not because he wants a magazine with you on the cover). might even sponsor you!

LEVI

screaming, fanboying, and many more. you're living his dream! he's extremely jealous, but that won't stop him from asking to be on one of your streams.

he's going to ask questions and contemplate about becoming a streamer (which lucifer probably won't allow. he isn't ready to hear levi yelling at 4am and missing more assignments than he does).

he'll probably be the most supportive and buy all of your merchandise. and yes, he's bragging about how he lives with you to your fans.

SATAN

he does not care.

satan's never seemed interested in the category of streaming, but that doesn't mean he's clueless. he understands what a streamer is and the creators.

might ask you a few questions, pop in on some of your streams, and possibly even play a round or two of a video game. he's not interactive with the audience much, but he's still there at times - whether he be in the background reading or watching you play.

ASMODEUS

he found out by you going to a party for content creators - held by another creator on the platform. did he beg to go with you? yes. did you let him go? no, sadly. he pouted and cried to solomon, but you promised next time to ask.

but overall, he's supportive! might even ask for you to do a "letting asmodeus do my make-up" stream. he's convinced you'll get a lot of viewership.

he's probably going to help you with merchandise designs and future brand ideas. and yes, he will wear your shirts and hoodies in devilgram posts.

BEELZEBUB

he's also neutral. though, you will need to explain to him that you're not always streaming, a camera is not following you everywhere.

besides from that, he won't appear much but the times he is there is during your cooking streams. just expect pure disasters during those moments.

BELPHEGOR

much like satan, he does not care. he's probably one of the brothers who is barely in the streams.

he won't ask you any questions, just leave him alone and let him sleep. might drag you away from your setup to cuddle with you, though.

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2af-afterdark · 1 year

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Any opinions or thoughts about each Love interest of What in hell is bad?

Oh gods. Oh fuck. There are so many of them. Give me a hot second to mindlessly ramble about first impressions. There is no structure here. I'm just giving my thoughts as they come to me. Excuse me if I miss anything. The list is very, very long.

Satan

Look at him coming to save us. He's so kind... you say before he brings out the whips and introduces you to all the fun kinky shit.

If MC was a virgin, they aren't anymore.

Opposite of a hypocrite. He likes getting as much as he likes giving.

He gives me aromantic energy. He's here for the sex and the sadistic joy of watching his subs fall apart, but he doesn’t care about any of that love bullshit. He'll be a ride or die friend though.

Oh fuck. He's angry again.

Who hurt this man that he rips the heads off of stuffed animals? If he touches any of my plushies like that, I will break his fingers and teeth. 😀

Sitri

This man brought an entire tea party to the battle and I respect him for it. That is the ultimate rage inducing intimidation tactic.

Some people in Gehenna get angry, but he prefers to make others angry and he's good at it.

Why is his design so smooth?

I wonder if there's a deeper meaning to him being the only Gehenna member without a gun for a weapon? His weapon actually reminds me more of the coffins that Hades' nobles carry.

Leraye

Uhh... so, not to be a misogynist... but the fact that he collects the bodies that Satan throws away makes me wonder if he likes Satan's... sloppy seconds.

You know, given he was the preview after Satan's... he probably does.

I kind of hate his design. It's too busy. Also that tongue piercing looks so uncomfortable.

Astaroth

Kuudere?

He gives me emotionless sex vibes (on the outside). Deep down though, he is so desperate to see his partner fall apart for him.

I want to cuddle his snake.

Paimon

His rainbow eye is a little much for me, personally. Like, it's a stimulation overload. You know?

I hope he's bitchy and caty and has a temper as short as Satan's but in a secretly manipulative way.

I am so disgusted by the bubblegum thing, but it also gives me the feeling that he's a biter. It's a valid form of affection.

Zagan

His horns look like droopy bunny ears.

He wants Satan to hit him. Add him to the masochist pile.

Wait! Is Satan the reason he has a scar??? I mean, healing is readily available but he still has a massive, deep scar on his face and neck. Does he keep it by choice because Satan gave it to him???

Amosdeus

I have no idea!

He's probably walking sex and violence given how the devils under him seem to act.

Phenix

SIR! YOU'RE THE REASON THIS GAME IS RATED 17+ ALL ON YOUR OWN!

He and Satan would actually probably get along well since Satan is a sadist and Phenix appears to be a masochist.

How do you even function when you are two seconds away from an orgasm at all times.

Persistent Genital Arousal Disorder?

Dantalian

Dude has a death wish so great that it makes him a phenomenal warrior. Like, how many times has he invaded heaven? Are the angels sick of them? Is there a poster at the pearly gates that tells everyone that he's banned?

Again! Hang out in Gehenna! I'm sure someone there will help you out.

Does not know the meaning of the world 'loyalty'.

Lucifer

Are all of his nobles hurt because of him? Why are they all injured? Who heals the healers?

We've seen that the nobles tend to pick up the sin of their kings, but none of the pride nobles seem to be prideful yet. Interesting...

Morax

I'm pretty sure the only reason one of his eyes is uncovered is because Lucifer told him he wasn't allowed to blind himself.

Seriously... who heals the healers? Does he have to wait for him injuries to heal naturally? Does that mean he's out of commission for months at a time???

He's a good general despite his wounds. I mean... the wounds aren't technically even his.

WHAT HAPPENED TO HIS HORNS???

Marbas

He's hard 24/7 considering his fetish is being tied up. Although, I wonder if he developed that fetish before or after Lucifer started keeping him restrained.

He and Lucifer fuuuuuuck.

Uhhhhhh *staring at the bulge in his pants*

Good luck to all you brave souls.

That "I still want to touch you" is giving me that sort of feel like... like Tarzan and Jane, you know? I don't know how to explain it but it makes me soft. I desperately want him to be destructive and violent with the world but soft and sweet with MC.

He's one of the pre-sale units so I'm looking forward to trying him out!

Leviathan

BITING HIM BITING HIM BITING HIM BITING HIM

Needs to be pegged and choked. Grab his hair while railing him from behind and yank it. Be so fucking mean that it makes all the othe devils blush. He loves it

It's actually so adorable that the devils of his kingdom love and adore him. He must be a really good king 🥺

On a personal note, his habit of hiding inside his coffin low-key reminds me when I was a kid and would hide in my closest or sleep under my bed. Glad we're both on the same wavelength of neurodivergent. I'm crawling in with him

I actually love that they specifically that his envy runs so deep that he even envies himself. In a weird way that's a form of self-love.

Barbatos

His hair is so fluffy. I want to brush it.

He's such a smooth talker and will fry the brain of anyone with a praise kink.

He doesn't feel envy. Instead, he causes envy. Seriously! Look at him! The man is post photos hoped model on a magazine cover!

What are those tattoos on his hands? 👀

I'm weak for rose aesthetics.

Foras

He has the prettiest horns. They look like they are made of opal which is my favorite stone

His tattoo writing down his face looks like tears and that's a whole mood.

Do not mistake his gentlemanly kindness for affection. If you go after Leviathan, you will be on his shit list. It's not a fun list to be on.

Do you think Asmodeus is resentful that he's considered the fairest of the devils?

Will gladly accept an orgy with the entirety of Hades based on the three members we know so far.

Mammon

Big... big everywhere. Will bury my face in his titties and suffocate.

Is it wrong of me to think he's the most loving of the kings? He just wants to hold you close and make sweet, sweet love.

Eats ass so well that Beelzebub feels threatened.

He will grope MC's butt at every opportunity, especially if they sleep in the same bed together. He wakes up hard and grinding against them.

Big fan of reverse cowgirl.

Bimet

No time for sex when time is money.

Classism made manifest.

Seriously... give me a few bucks, please. Like, his earrings alone are about $1,000.

You could wash clothes on those abs.

Eligos

Please see this post

Beelzebub

Fuckboi energy

It's required by law to compare his libido to the act of consumption. His also law that he is an oral king. Just be sure you trust his mouth near you...

I want to know why he won't go back to Avisos. He doesn't even want to step foot in his own kingdom, but he won't abdicate the title either.

None of his people seem to express gluttony. I wonder if that's because he's not around to influence them?

Bael

Someone please hug him.

So much angst potential in my porn game.

I am heartbroken for him after hearing he essentially lives as Beelzebub's rreplacement. Do you think he ever wonders where Beelzebub ends and he begins? Does he consider himself a failure for letting Avisos come under mafia rule rather than a monarchy or is he successful for being the head of that mafia?

I'm going to kiss his precious face.

Side note... is that crown on Bael's head actually his horn? He doesn't have a horn otherwise.

Kind of surprised he doesn't have a fake horn to mimic Beelzebub's considering how noticeable the king's is.

Stolas

This man is planning a coup that he knows will fail.

WHAT IS A SIN TO A DEVIL??? WHAT TURNS THIS MAN ON???

Brat energy!

Look at his little blushy face! Is he shy about his massive dick? Can I tease him for it?

Let me bully!

Amon

Bye Felicia.

True definition of chaotic neutral.

If this were a children's cartoon, he'd be the one making all the issues but then also solves them within 20 minutes so someone can tell us the moral of the episode.

I am slightly bothered by his horn not being centered. Please send help.

Minhyeok

Pervert ❤️

I love a good childhood friend trope. Especially when one is obsessed with the other.

Yes, he knows what videos MC watches and he watches them too.

He's so fucking gross. He looks mature and put together, but he's the nastiest person behind closed doors.

He has jerked off with MC's underwear so many times, washed them, then returned them. He thinks about how they could be wearing them all the time.

No, seriously. I images he is absolutely disgusting. He sniffs that seat because he knows MC leaves it wet.

I made a crackpot theory about Solomon and God being the same person (so you are both by proxy of likely being Solomon's reincarnation), but Mihnyeok also makes me think he may be God given how he is your friend (just like Solomon and God).

No, I don't think he's a normal human, but I also don't think he knows he's special.

Gabriel

He wants to fuck God (seriously, look at his fetish).

Yandere and proud.

I'm going to get myself killed. I see hot angel and my brain turns off.

I want to brush his bangs aside and kiss the eye his hiding, then let him finger me stupid.

#❖ nonie #love letters ❤️#talkin' whb #what in hell is bad #whb

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An off the cuff Deltarune hypothesis

I have an idea of what the knight looks like.

No not who the knight is, but what their suit of armor disguise may look like.

In Undertale, one of the enemies that caught my attention as someone who started with Deltarune first was the Knight Knight.

The Knight Knight is an enemy that is found in the CORE. There are certain things that makes this enemy particularly interesting within the themes of Deltarune.

The fact that she is a knight is pretty obvious given that Deltarune's "big bad" is seemingly being built up to be a...well knight.

The mechanics to pacify her all have to do with bringing her to sleep. This at face value isn't a whole lot, but with Deltarune's reoccuring motifs of dreams and lightners mistaking the dark world as a dream world, the sleep mechanic may be a sort of nudge to tie this character or design to Deltarune's story.

According to the wiki "It is unclear whether Knight Knight's true face resides under her helmet or on her torso." A stretch, but could tie into the mystery of Deltarune's Knight's true identity.

According to the wiki "The name of Knight Knight's weapon ("the Good Morningstar"), as well as her horned appearance, may be allusions to Lucifer (whose Latin name literally means "Morning Star", and is often depicted as horned by Christians who associate him with the corrupted angel Satan, which makes Lucifer the "bad morningstar" in a sense). The sun Knight Knight summons may reference Lucifer's former glory before he fell down, as well as his name, which can be translated to "Dawn Bringer". The moon may reference the association of the night, darkness, and the moon itself with evil. "Lucifer" can be translated as an adjective into "light-bringing", and the Sun and Moon are two major sources of light." This is interesting because it would make the Knight Knight the fourth known character in Undertale/Deltarune to be associated with the devil (alongside Gaster, Asriel in his Hyperdeath form and Asgore). Plus ties with the villain of the bible points to the Knight Knight's visual counterpart in Deltarune being the villain (or one of the villains) in the game. As well as interesting day/night motifs in her mechanics by summoning the sun and moon.

Other interesting, but stretchy notes to make about the Knight Knight:

One of the flavor texts reads "You talk to Knight Knight. She hums something in her sleep..." which is interesting because there seems to be a theme with Gaster and a strange song. Though Knight Knight "humming something" could also just be plain be talking in her sleep.

The wiki notes that "Knight Knight speaks without a speech bubble, unlike other monsters." which is really interesting, but I am not sure what that could mean in the context of her potentially being tied with Deltarune's Knight.

Knight Knight being a female character could widdle down potential candates for Deltarune's Knight. Though it's also important to note that I don't believe that the character of Knight Knight is literally one and the same as Deltarune's, just the design of her armor will be the same or similar to Deltarune's, so Deltarune's Knight could still be any gender. In fact using a female character's design could bring an interesting twist where characters think The Knight is a girl at first, then find out he is a boy or nb.

The wiki says "Knight Knight's sprite is called a "dragon," which her avian face resembles." This is interesting because Noelle is playing through a game called Dragon Blazers 2 and is currently stuck at the Ice Dragon's palace. Maybe its a hint that Deltarune's Knight will be tied to that Ice Dragon in some way? Or it could be a reference to the Gaster Blasters which some believe to resemble a dragon's skull. It's also interesting to note that Susie is a dragon as well, so maybe the potential choice of the Knight wearing a suit of armor that resembles a dragon could tie into Susie's past or something else relating to her heritage as a dragon. There could even be a possibility of the Knight being revealed as a relative of hers or something like that. There's a lot of ways this could go.

Maybe I am going nuts over a bit character that has nothing to do with deltalrune, but still interesting to think about.

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Snippet - Pumpkin Carvings

How would everyone carve their own pumpkin for decoration? 🎃

To get into the spirit of Halloween, MC decides to carve a pumpkin! Once it’s finished, they leave it on the front porch of the House of Lamentation as a decoration. Seeing MC’s finished pumpkin motivates the demon brothers and those who visit to carve pumpkins of their own. Let's take a look at the designs each of them made and how they came to be!

(Click on the "pic ref" at the end of each description if you'd like a visual of a pumpkin that resembles what the character made. I do not own or take credit for any of the images.)

Lucifer actually had no intention of carving his own pumpkin due to his busy schedule and lack of interest in the activity. However, after receiving enough pestering and taunting about making one since everyone else had done so, he’ll spend an evening locked in his room carving one of the most intricate designs the three realms have ever seen. The tall pumpkin will depict an artistic rendition of the front of the House of Lamentation and its surrounding scenery, so visitors will see the large house in-person and then a smaller version of it by the doorstep. (Satan and Belphegor have tried to smash the pumpkin, but the spell Lucifer put on it beforehand keeps it well-protected from any damage.) (pic ref)

Mammon gets really invested in carving his own pumpkin, confident that it will be the best one out of the bunch, and enjoys creating the final design. With slanted eyes and the biggest mouth lined with pointed teeth, his jack-o-lantern leans more on the scary side, and he uses its appearance as a great opportunity to jump out of nowhere and spook his brothers and MC for a whole day. When he wakes up in the middle of the night to see the scary pumpkin in front of his face (as revenge from the others), he becomes terrified of it and promptly puts it outside with the rest of the pumpkins. (It’s still the best Halloween jack-o-lantern, he says, but just...only for decoration.) (pic ref)

Leviathan considers this activity his time to shine! He'll happily utilize his artistic skills to display Ruri-chan and his other favorite anime characters (and let them shine) in jack-o-lanterns. Yes, that’s right, Levi will end up carving multiple pumpkins because of his enthusiasm to decorate the outside of the house with the things he loves. (He may not have stopped if it weren’t for Lucifer stepping in.) Although most of his designs involve 2D characters, he’ll also craft a dragon similar to his chat icon since the light inside the pumpkin makes the dragon appear to be breathing fire. (pic ref)

Satan, without a doubt, will have a cat design on his pumpkin. They’re one of the common symbols of Halloween in the human world, right, MC? Well, that makes it all the more fitting, then! Rather than carving the pumpkin to look like a cat face, however, he will cut the shape of a cat within the center, making it appear as though the cat is sitting while facing a full moon. He finds it to be adorable while still giving off a mysterious-like vibe. (pic ref)

Asmodeus originally wanted to carve his face into the pumpkin, but nothing he did came remotely close to capturing his perfect complexion! After some comfort and advice from MC, he’ll try again with a different design instead. He ultimately goes with a “Day of the Dead”/”Sugar Skull” type of pumpkin carving, consisting of a skull that’s decorated with paint designs and some sparkly fake jewels and flowers (for that extra pop, he says). It may not be his face, but it’s full of his charm, so he’s satisfied! (pic ref)

Beelzebub...forgot that he was supposed to be carving the pumpkin and ended up eating the whole thing instead. Whoops. Luckily, Belphegor had prepared for this and got an extra pumpkin for him. Determined to do it properly this time, Beel will choose to snack on the seeds and guts of the pumpkin while working on a design similar to a cyclops type of monster. Mike Wazowski, is that you? He remembers MC mentioning how monsters are a common theme for Halloween, and the design allows him to cut out big pieces of the pumpkin to eat afterward. (pic ref)

Belphegor almost didn’t carve a pumpkin at all, but MC and Beelzebub’s excitement in the activity rubbed off on him and pushed him to try it. He goes with a simple yet creepy face design, drawing it first with marker while Beel scoops out the insides of the pumpkin to eat. Once it’s completely carved, Belphie’s jack-o-lantern glows ominously with x’s for eyes and a string of sharp-cut teeth. The idea came from something he saw in a horror movie before, and since it was easy to design, he’s pleased with the result. (pic ref)

Diavolo will opt for a jack-o-lantern that mixes two of the most recurrent designs in the human world, according to what he found online and learned from MC. His pumpkin has the usual eyes and nose, but the inside of the mouth spells out the word “Boo!”, which he thinks makes it extra fun. He wanted it to be whimsical and approachable to everyone who visits the castle (just like he wants others to view him), so he intentionally avoided carving a scary design this time. His pumpkin (along with Barbatos’s) is placed outside near the main castle doors. (pic ref)

Barbatos will want to match the same vibe that Diavolo is going for, so he’ll ensure that his own pumpkin is rather tame, too. Rather than a typical jack-o-lantern face, though, he’ll paint and carve his to look like the head of an owl, including hollowing out eyes that give them depth and etching many of the other features, like feathers. But why an owl? Well, they’re a predator to rats, so Barbatos hopes his pumpkin will scare away those tiny wretched creatures. (pic ref)

Simeon will be eager to carve his own jack-o-lantern, but the problem is...he can’t decide on just one face design! When he notices a tower of pumpkins while he’s at the market with his friends, he instantly figures out what he should do. He carves four small pumpkins, each with a unique face and design that represents one of the members of Purgatory Hall, which include himself and Raphael. His pumpkins are stacked together and are used to decorate the front porch area of Purgatory Hall, where Luke’s and Solomon’s own pumpkins are located as well. (pic ref)

Solomon knows that Halloween involves magic and spooky elements (among other things), so he’ll create a pumpkin design that meets both of those aspects. After carving out a hole in the middle of the face of a large pumpkin, he’ll paint and place a smaller pumpkin inside of it so that the whole thing resembles an eyeball. To top it off, he’ll enchant the pumpkin to be animated, allowing the “eye” to look around and even blink occasionally. He has a lot of fun with making it, and he enjoys greeting it each time he enters and exits Purgatory Hall (as does Simeon, but Luke...not so much). (pic ref)

Luke will have a hard time coming up with an idea for his pumpkin until he decides to bake some pumpkin-flavored treats and notices his collection of cookie cutters. Inspired, he paints the outside of the pumpkin and then carves a shooting star-like design with the help of his cookie cutters and a hammer. (Simeon supervised him, don’t worry.) Michael’s love of the constellations motivated Luke to choose the star cookie cutters specifically. Although the carving is simple, the light from within makes it stand out nicely just like the stars in the sky. (pic ref)

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