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ms-demeanor · 1 month

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Nutrition science IS a mess largely because a huge number of food and weight loss studies are limited by "how long can we reasonably expect this study group to eat only what we're feeding them" and "how many people can we reasonably include in this study when it needs to be local and the participants need to meet XYZ standards" and then you ALSO have the problem of people p-hacking the research and the whole thing is a nightmare but it's a nightmare in the same way that a LOT of science relating to humans is a nightmare because humans are fucking hard to study.

Like, yeah, obviously a fucking 8-week study of how effective keto is for weight loss isn't going to provide a ton of useful information but like how the fuck else are you going to study it and have high compliance to a notoriously hard-to-comply with diet???????

"Good" studies tend to be short because they have to be to prevent participants from quitting the diet OR because twelve weeks is probably the longest time you can reasonably expect people to stay at an inpatient facility where their food is 100% controlled by researchers unless you're willing to pay them A LOT which you can't do unless your fucking study is funded by fucking coca cola and creating a massive conflict of interest.

What this means is that we should be very narrow in what we take away from these studies and shouldn't generalize them to a broad population, not that the studies are inherently bullshit.

#tw diet talk #tw calorie restriction

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kai-isnotokay · 2 years

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family member: how are you?

me: huh?

*flashback to a few days ago*

me: oh no i went 5 over my calorie limit guess i'll starve for 48 hours now, maybe i'll even see how far i can go

*present*

me: *stomach growls* oh i'm fine

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illthi · 1 year

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7.12.22

🖤 breakfast (280) 🖤

plain yogurt (87)

honey (64)

granola (110)

blueberries (19)

🖤 lunch (192) 🖤

1 blueberry apple snail bob snack (19)

3 pieces chocolate covered crisp bread (168)

diet pepsi (5)

🖤 dinner (148) 🖤

1 piece of ricepaper (29)

romaine lettuce (2)

green onion (3)

⅓ portion homemade tuna salad (108)

yellow bell pepper (6)

🖤 snacks (358) 🖤

huge mandarin (45)

raw nut bar (101)

cucumber (5)

1 brownie oreo (52)

a bit of popcorn (75)

a green apple (80)

all: 978

burnt: 8,107 steps (-307)

net: 671

had a very busy day and didn't exercise bc of that:(( unfortunately i also have a busy day tomorrow, and on friday... :(:

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castielsprostate · 1 year

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I'm still under 500kcal today what is wrong w me

#tw ed #tw calorie restriction #my daily goal is 1500 but i just haven't had any drive whatsoever to eat I don't understand #I'm not complaining #but i also know it's a slippery slope #anyone got easy recipe tips to get more calories? but in a non i want to throw up way

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mango-lover26 · 2 months

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I love mealspø so much🥰 Everything is so neat and tidy and aesthetic🥹

When eating this way you’re practically manifesting being skinny and dainty and perfect✨

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findme7 · 2 months

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91918272772 times a day

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sl3epyskul · 2 months

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sometimes i forget that ⭐️ving will actually make me drop w31ght.. like i ⭐️ve for weeks and get confused when family members point it out😭 im such a dunce sometimes

#anatumblr #tw ana diary #ana bllog #tw restrictive ed #ana rant #ed disorder #ed not ed sheeran #@n0r3xia #ed vent #⭐️ving #light as a 🪶#low cal restriction #i hate calories #i wanna ⭐️ve #ed not sheeren

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ms-demeanor · 2 months

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Going off that post about nutrition and science, I'd love to hear what you think of the 5:2 diet/The Fast 800 and its creator, Dr. Michael Mosley. For context: in order to get an NHS-funded breast reduction (it's a gender thing, but also just a general quality-of-life thing), I need to be a certain BMI, so I've been referred to a weight management clinic. The lady I've been seeing initially just put me on a low-carb diet (130g or less of carbs per day, with an aside from her about how bullshit Keto and BMI limits for treatment are), but now she's said that, if I wanted to speed up the weight loss, I should include the 5:2 diet: 5 days in a week where I eat "normally", and 2 fast days in which I restrict myself to 800kcals. I did a little looking into it myself, and found that 5:2 - which I HAD heard about before - is now being sold as part of "The Fast 800", with Dr. Mosley being the creator of it. I was shocked by that, because I was already a fan of Dr. Mosley's work (he has a podcast called "Just One Thing" that I really liked, and thought contained reasonable-sounding advice), and yet having a diet plan that he's clearly making money off of does immediately make me feel suspicious. I've borrowed his "The Fast 800" book from the library, both to find out more about the diet I've been put on and to see if it's at all backed by evidence, and he does cite a bunch of scientific studies which seem to back up his ideas, but I don't know how valid they are, and I don't just want to accept them at face-value (especially since he's a "we got fat completely wrong in the 80s, therefore we should eat a Mediterranean diet!" types). Obviously I'll go with what my weight management lady suggests, since she's obviously more qualified to talk about it than I am, but I am curious to know what you think, and whether I'm right to be distrustful of all of this.

I am, generally speaking, against any diet for rapid weight loss. They're not sustainable so people gain the weight back (often with more weight getting added on).

There have also recently been findings that suggest that BMI cutoffs for top surgery are detrimental to patients as patients in higher BMI categories are more likely to have minor complications like UTIs or to be readmitted, but are not likely to have major complications or be at risk of significant harm from having top surgery. I don't know if anybody will listen if you bring up that study, and I know that GCS is fraught in many places for many reasons.

I'm also just.

I'm so mad. I'm so fucking mad! I'm so mad about this!

One of my best friends is a guy who was pressured into a pattern of disordered eating and unhealthy exercise in order to qualify for top surgery; since then he has not been able to eat in a healthy way and has struggled with alternating between exercising to the point of harm and other destructive behaviors that make him unhappy and unsafe. And he didn't need that. He didn't need any of that! He needed a very safe surgery that had perhaps a slightly higher risk of minor complications at his size and instead he got top surgery and an eating disorder! I hate it! I'm so fucking mad about it!

Also as near as I can tell Michael Mosley qualified as a psychiatrist in the 90s, spent very little time working as a psychiatrist, and then became a media personality. From what is visible on his website and every biography I've found for him he apparently doesn't have any background in nutrition beyond whatever is standard for someone in medical school (which is NOT MUCH).

Hey I just looked at his website and this is straight-up fucked up.

Anybody recommending an 800 calorie a day diet for 2-12 weeks in a context that is not heavily medically supervised can fucking choke. That is *ridiculously* dangerous and the website says that this can improve insulin resistance but there are a shitload of studies about people on crash diets like this *developing* insulin resistance (oh hey like my friend who became prediabetic after his rapid significant weight loss).

Also in regard to the studies he cites on the website, the "two years later patients are still going strong in their diabetes improvements" it's really important to put shit like that in context

at 5 years 13% of the original intervention group were in remission from their type two diabetes; the average weight loss experienced by the intervention group as a whole was 6.1kg compared to 4.6kg in the control group. That's 1.5kg lower for the people who went through a twelve week medically supervised very low calorie diet compared. That's an average difference of 3.3 pounds between "starvation diet" and "no diet" for the Americans in the audience.

Yours is the second comment I've seen that has been leery of the Mediterranean diet, btw, and the Mediterranean diet is fine. It's very achievable and not super gimmicky and is based on very reasonable reassessments of fat, not the hardcore "you are fine to eat 100g of fat a day" kind of attitude that you get from the keto crew. There isn't really one Mediterranean diet and it certainly isn't low carb (which the bits from Mosely's website seem to indicate it is).

So, no, honestly I don't think much of Mosely and I'm very sorry you're in this situation, that sucks and I hate that they're refusing you treatment until you undergo an exceptionally difficult and potentially harmful weight loss excursion.

I know you're probably stuck with that and it's bullshit and I think it fucking sucks and unfortunately the medical advice you're likely to get is "eat in a significantly disordered manner at least until it is time for surgery" and it blows. That just fucking sucks.

If you're looking for rapid weight loss that you don't plan to sustain (and you shouldn't plan to sustain it, it won't stay off) you may want to look into body building forums for how they discuss cuts. It's still disordered eating and it's still not healthy, but at least they're effective and can tell you what supplements will keep you from becoming malnourished while you prepare for surgery. This is a terrible idea. I don't actually want to give this advice to anyone but bodybuilders are the exact kind of people who know how far and how fast they can push weight loss while having an awareness that it isn't really good for them and it won't stay off.

I cannot overstate enough how much I hate the thought that people are being encouraged to rapidly starve themselves in order to prepare to recover from surgery. I am so sorry and I'm so mad and

#tw weight loss #tw diet talk #tw disordered eating #tw calorie restriction

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kai-isnotokay · 2 years

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okay y'all, coming here to say that Halo Top ice cream is definitely worth the hype if you're calorie restrictive/have a binging disorder/generally like ice cream. it tastes amazing, it's a fluffy ice cream, and the best part is that it has like 3 times less the amount of cals you would normally have in ice cream. most pint-sized ice creams that I find are like 1000+ per pint. Halo Top? the average is 300 per pint. ngl, it made me feel a little less terrified when my family wanted to have an ice cream night. plus, it doesn't make your stomach feel like you're dying. they also have vegan and non-dairy flavors, and I can confirm that they are delicious. moral of the story, if you ever are in the need for a relatively low-cal ice cream (as low as it gets while not tasting like shit) then here you go. it's easy to find at any store and I've even found it at a few gas stations.

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illthi · 2 years

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i'm almost done w my first 36h fast ever and i feel like i'm dying but i'm desperate af. here's what i had yesterday:

3×sugarfree kids gum (12)

monster blue ultra (15)

0.5L of sugarfree pomegranate mirinda (5)

0.5L of diet coke (5)

1 piece of regular mint gum (2)

all: 39 cals

burnt: 10 925 steps (372)

net: -333

i've heard somewhere that as long as you don't go over 50 cals the fast is not broken so i hope it's true haha. i'm still content though bc that's a low intake anyways xx

today i'm ending my fast at 1pm and trying to stay under 600kcal for the rest of the day. i'm gonna post a food log later probably x

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willows-woes · 1 year

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So this is a vent and feel free to post or not post this with or without a reply.

I've been so fucking self conscious of my weight since I was 8, I ate less than most kids my age but I was still almost double the weight of an average child my age and was visibly overweight, this caused me to be bullied which made me severely depressed and suicidal since I was about 10 (obviously not the main reason I was so depressed) and I just started binging and gaining a little more weight year by year. I am currently still almost double the weight of an average teen my age and recently I've been eating about 200-900 calories a day and I lost about 4 pounds and I was so fucking happy because no matter how much I exercise or how athletic I am I still don't loose weight. And just today I measured myself (which I do every day) and I've almost gained a whole pound and it makes me so fucking upset to know that I am knowingly starving myself to loose weight and gaining it.

I want to die and I want to kill myself but there's two things keeping me on this earth and knowing this just makes me so fucking angry and sad because they're such petty and dumb reasons.

Reason one: Alice's last Hearstopper graphic novel and however many series we may have announced.

Reason two: finally being able to go to a Cavetown concert.

And I feel like if it all happened now I would just go jump off a bridge because that's that final little bit of hope that something good is going to happen to me that will make me still want to be alive and it'll make me happy but I'll still want to go and kill myself. I tell my parents that I think I'm depressed / have seasonal or just general depression and that I have anxiety and so many other things that are wrong with me but they ignore me and just tell me its the phone. I'm not out to them as agender and aroace, in fact I'm not out to anyone, I've never told anyone I'm suicidal or that I starve myself a lot of the time (idk if I'm anorexic because I don't know much about it) and I'm gonna start going to therapy soon but for completely different reasons (I have rlly bad anger issues and threatened to fight someone over text and the school tried to get the police involved even tho I apologised irl and over text and only said I'd fight her) and my mum called the doctor up straight away. She thinks I'm a fucking psycho. And I always get panic attacks when my mum mentions therapy and it just makes me realise the reasons for me to kill myself are now basically at one million to two. But I don't want to die, I want to read Alice's books and loose weight and go to a silly little concert before I die, if I kill myself I want to know that I did something for myself at least once. Sorry that this is so fucking long. Xx

alr so i'm posting this, since you're on anon and i can't respond privately.

that. that is really fucking awful anon. i can't compare with my own childhood since i can't even imagine how shitty that feels. (if i ever compare with my own experiences, it isn't trying to make it about me, it's just me trying to show another person that "i've had personal experience with how you're feeling. that sucks, and i know from lived experience that you're not alone.")

cavetown's music>>> (so good fr, god i'm jealous of u >:( /pos )

i actually feel what you're describing there. i once tried to explain that i might be depressed (though it isn't as severe as you+i keep going back and forth between "yes i am/no i'm not") and if i actually am, then i think it got worse because they refused to do anything thinking i was exaggerating [👍 /sarc]

i can promise that if you told anyone you were thinking of dying, they would try to stop you. that is something i know as a solid fact. it's great you're getting therapy and i genuinely hope you're going to get better, i used to have really bad anger issues as a kid [getting into physical fights and threatening other people multiple times a week-level bad, starting to make me feel shit about being so angry and aggressive to everyone], so at least i kinda know what that's like.

and i can't just sprout some "it gets better" bullshit, because you've gone through so much horrible stuff that i probably wouldn't even have nightmares about. i'm just so, so proud of you for making it this far. battling suicidal thoughts is really fucking hard and i think more people should be made aware of that and i really hope one day you can be free of all this and look back proud of how far you've come.

minor detail, i'm agender and aroace too, i wonder what your pronouns are :) but i'm glad to hear from someone who identifies with the same labels as me. never feel pressured to come out before you're ready, and definitely don't come out if you don't feel like you'll be accepted. and that second piece may sound like something everyone knows, but nobody is entitled to know your orientation/gender before you're ready. especially if you feel unsafe, since that could have serious consequences in some cases.

i'm really sorry, anon. i genuinely hope things get better. and maybe i hope this pops up on your dashboard, and what i've said makes you feel a little better.

#tw eating issues #tw calorie restriction #tw calories #tw suicide mention #tw suicidality #long post

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boni-pebble · 3 months

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"you're pretty just the way you are" but i could be so much better and skinnier, then i could be even more pretty. and i will be.

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rainyday-w-hotchocolate · 7 days

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From today, from this moment, I don't care about your 'ill start tomorrow'. No. No excuses. If you want to be skinny, then act it. And I promise you, you'll thank me in a week.

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worstxana · 1 month

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low calorie dessert recipes

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t-a-k-a-k-o · 22 days

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Mmk so I couldn't allow myself to just gatekeep these AMAZING snackies ♡

They are Jelly B. Drinkable Konjac Jelly, they r Korean and they r sooooooo good

They r super refreshing and it fills u up and satisfies sweet cravings

They r gluten free (100% in Australia and for US it doesn't have a warning against it), dairy free, sugar free, fat free, cholesterol free, nut free, halal, low carb, contain a bunch of vitamin C and a little calcium, and best of all EXTREMELY LOW CAL

There r at least 7 flavors (watermelon, apple, blueberry, peach, lychee, mango, and grape [the grape isn't American artificial grape where it taste more purple than fruity]), they r fairly cheap (especially if there r deals at the market), u can find them at ur local Asian market (I got mine at HMart and I think I got them for like $21 or $28 USD for 14 pouches) or Amazon (def more pricey)

Some of them taste exactly like the fruit while others don't rly but they r still rly good

Make sure when u drink it u shake it up real good, maybe even massage it a bit so u get bits of jelly rather than drinking all the juice and struggling to get the jelly out (I mean ig u could drink the juice and cut it open and eat the jelly with a spoon?) and they r best cold

I rly rly hope all of u who want them can find them bc they r SO AMAZING

Imma put pics of them below, ignore how dirty my kitchen floor looks pls (⁠◍⁠•⁠ᴗ⁠•⁠◍⁠)

P.S. so sry for how trash the pics r

P.P.S. rereading this post makes me sound like a commercial, I'm not getting paid btw, I just think all the babes here should know abt them if they r interested

Love u all ♡

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