#rosie cotton

[velvet4510]

Ok, time for a hot take.

It really bothers me that Rosie and Sam’s relationship is reduced and made so shallow in the films, with the implication that they’ve never even talked to each other, and Sam is pining for this girl he doesn’t really know….

Like …

… this actually misses the entire point of their relationship in the book.

In the book, Sam and Rosie grew up together. His warmest memories that bring him comfort in the darkest place are the memories of playing with her in the pool when they were kids.

The point of Tolkien’s Rosie is that she’s someone familiar to Sam, the face that comes into his mind when he thinks of home. He remembers an actual moment he spent with her, a moment of fun and bonding. Then when he comes home, it turns out she could somehow sense the moment the Ring was destroyed, and knew he was coming home. They have this special, deep bond that brings Sam a sense of comfort and stability.

She’s not supposed to be some distant, unknown figure that Sam has built up in his head but has never actually talked to or gotten to know. That’s literally the antithesis of Tolkien’s Rosie Cotton.

It’s like the films swap Sam’s initial relationships with Rosie and with Frodo. In the movies, he starts off more familiar and friendly with Frodo; they apparently go to the pub together frequently like typical buddies do, whereas Rosie is in another world, dancing and making drinks behind the bar, and Sam is just too unsure of himself to even make small talk with her.

But Tolkien’s portrait is the exact opposite. Rosie is the one who Sam spends a lot of time with and has known for a long while. Frodo is the one who Sam is distant from and doesn’t really have the nerve to make chit-chat with, because he is Frodo’s servant and thus he thinks it’s not his place to be too friendly with “his betters,” as his dad says. (And then the journey takes the two of them out of that restrictive class system and frees them to bond and get to know each other as people.)

Then when they come home, there’s an actual sense of coming home, because Rosie embodies everything that is familiar and safe for Sam. Not everything that is unknown and scary.

#lotr #jrr tolkien #lotr books #lord of the rings #lotr movies #lotr book vs film #sam x rosie #samwise gamgee #rosie cotton #frodo baggins

[hxans]

Frodo Baggins, proposing an ot3 just like that.

#lotr #frodo x sam x rosie #frodo baggins #samwise gamgee #rosie cotton

[kwistowee]

“Sam blushed... for Rosie’s eyes were shining and she was smiling at him.” - The Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkien

#lotredit #tolkienedit #fantasyedit #the lord of the rings #lotr #samwise gamgee #sean astin #rosie cotton #sarah mcleod #userfrodosam #userrobin #thcrin #usersugar #usersansa #filmgifs #cinemapix #mediagifs #dailyflicks #userthing #my*gifs #userbbelcher #chewieblog #userfilm #moviegifs #filmedit #usersource #jrr tolkien #go on sam; you're more than good enough for her #she's waiting for you

[samrappillustrations]

My “Couples of Middle Earth” illustration series! Which couple is your favorite??

#eowyn #faramir #beren #luthien #Arwen #aragorn #Samwise The Brave #rosie cotton #middle #couple goals

[frodo-with-glasses]

R.I.P. Frodo Baggins, cause of death: cuteness overload

#samwise gamgee #rosie cotton #elanor gamgee #frodo baggins #lord of the rings #lotr #my art #fig tree au #magnolia au

[remusjohnslupin]

"War must be, while we defend our lives against a destroyer who would devour all; but I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend."

(dedicated to @thcrin // 'a whole decade!' celebration!)

#lotredit #tolkienedit #thcrin #aragorn #legolas #theoden #eowyn #samwise gamgee #rosie cotton #tolkienmine #wow a whole decade!

[whiteladyofithilien]

This is for couples who have an in-text interaction... Because I know there's others that we love but it's all in our heads like Eomer and Lothiriel. I'm also not including the Valar because that's just a whole different cup of tea

You can pick based on books or films or a bit of both. Whatever moves you but I would LOVE it if you put which in the tags

#rosie cotton #samwise gamgee #melian #thingol #aragorn #arwen #tolkien #Silmarillion #lord of the rings #jrr tolkien #beren #luthien tinuviel #nerdanel #feanor #hurin #morwen #niniel #nianor #children of hurin #Faramir #eowyn #Earendil #elwing #aredhel #eol #Galadriel #Celeborn #goldberry #tom bombadil #turin turambar

[reallyhardydraws]

a lil samfrosie moment inspired by some photos taken by the wonderful @mischieffoal during the final scene of the lord of the rings: a musical tale

[commissions open!] ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

#LOTR musical #the lord of the rings: a musical tale #samfrosie #samwise gamgee #frodo baggins #rosie cotton #draws

[autistook]

'... and although it took courage, he finally asked for the hand of fair Rosie Cotton. It was the bravest thing he ever did.'

#lotr #lord of the rings #the lord of the rings #lotr gifs #lotr edit #sam and rosie #rosie cotton #frodo baggins #samwise gamgee #sam gamgee #pippin #pippin took #tolkien #peregrin took #merry brandybuck #meriadoc Brandybuck #rotk #return of the king #jrrt #gifset #lotr gifset

[mgcoco]

Happy Birthday, Samwise Gamgee! 🌷

#tolkien #lord of the rings #lotr #samwise gamgee #cupsleeve #rosie cotton #frodo baggins #ralph bakshi #rankin bass #lord of the rings musical #i love making these #i am cringe but i am free

[mischieffoal]

Hot girl summer is over it's officially hobbit girl autumn!!

(saw this post with Film!Rosie and Musical!Rosie deserves her own post ☺️)

#my friend described her as the most Hobbitty person ever #and she's right #tolkien #lotrm #lord of the rings musical #lotr musical #lotr #lord of the rings #hobbits #rosie cotton

[velvet4510]

I just want to say to my fellow female Tolkien fans that we should not feel ashamed for loving these books that are admittedly male-centric.

It’s tempting to call Tolkien a sexist for including so few female characters in his legendarium, but we must remember that the women he did include are the epitome of girl power and some of the best role models we could ask for: strong and willful and noble and brave, without sacrificing their femininity to prove themselves.

It’s glorious to me how you can flip through the books and see page after page of men doing everything … and then suddenly:

There’s Varda creating the Stars, Sun, and Moon!!

There’s Yavanna saving her trees by inspiring the creation of the Ents!!

There’s Melian making an Elf king forget his own people and then shielding an entire kingdom!!

There’s Lúthien defeating Sauron himself AND Morgoth himself!!!

There’s Idril preventing the complete annihilation of her people by creating the secret path out of Gondolin!!

There’s Galadriel resisting the One Ring!!

There’s Éowyn killing the lord of the Nazgûl!!

There’s Ioreth saving the victims of the Black Breath through her knowledge that the king will be the healer!!

There’s Arwen bridging the gap between Elves and Men as Queen of Gondor!!

There’s 100-year-old Lobelia beating Ruffians with her umbrella and leaving money in her will to help homeless hobbits!!

There’s Rosie raising 13 kids while simultaneously serving the whole Shire as Mistress of Bag End!!

There’s Elanor guarding and preserving the Red Book so that we can read it now!!!

That’s why I just can’t hold too big of a grudge about this. Yes, Tolkien didn’t write female characters too often, and it would’ve been fantastic if there were more. But when he did write them, they were amazing.

And on top of that, his male characters display literally our dream level of healthy masculinity in a man. Frodo, Sam, Aragorn, Faramir, etc. are our wish fulfillment. We have every right to enjoy that.

#lotr #jrr tolkien #lotr books #lord of the rings #the silmarillion #luthien tinuviel #eowyn of rohan #eowyn #galadriel #rosie cotton #lobelia sackville baggins #elanor gardner #elbereth #yavanna

[smhalltheurlsaretaken]

I might have said it before, I don't remember, but while Return of the King the movie has its flaws (more so than the other two imo) no other film has ever come close to making me feel the pure relief and elation of the last half hour. I can't even put it into words. No other happy ending feels that earned, no other journey feels as long and as complete as this one. People can joke about the 5 successive ending scenes but I'd gladly sit through 10 more of those because it feels like coming home and home is heaven.

#the joy the peace the love #the triumphant fulfilment of hope like a blooming flower #the *TWENTY* FULL MINUTES OF CHARACTERS SMILING #return of the kings #lord of the rings #peter jackson movies #lotr #samwise gamgee #frodo baggins #rosie cotton #aragorn #arwen #merry #pippin #gandalf #gondor #the shire #eowyn #faramir

[sustinentiae-spei]

Sam/Rosie (Book vs Movie)

There's a post going 'round with a lot of notes about the difference between Sam and Rosie's relationship in the book vs the movie, and I wanted to share my own thoughts.

It's undeniable that Sam and Rosie's relationship in the movie is different from in the books...but is it actually worse? Let's discuss!

Facts.

In the book, we know that Sam and Rosie are friends; we know she's willing to wait for him; we know that after he comes back, they then get married.

In the movies, we know that Sam and Rosie admire each other but from a distance; we know it's only when Sam returns that he has the courage to ask her out himself; they then get married.

These two scenarios are different, yes, but which one is better?

I actually think the second is better, and here's why.

Shallow vs Deep

The original post suggests that Sam and Rosie's relationship is more "shallow" in the movies, but this is an assumption. An understandable assumption, but nonetheless only an assumption.

Consider this: what if Sam and Rosie's years of friendship was based on only what we see in the books: they hung out with her brothers in a mutual group and enjoyed splashing around the rivers together?

That's...fine. But there's no depth to this. They were just hanging out and eventually developed a mutual crush - maybe due to nothing more than proximity and familiarity.

Alternatively, consider all the possible reasons why Sam and Rosie could admire each other, even from a distance. Maybe she admires him for his steadfastness in caring for Bilbo and Frodo and for refusing to care about the gossip of other hobbits. Maybe he admires her for her determination to create a safe and hospitable place for hobbits to rest and for her ability as a barmaid to listen well to other people.

There actually would be quite a bit of depth in that scenario.

The reality is, we just don't know which scenario has more depth. Either could have quite a bit of depth; either could be shallow. It's really up to us to fill in the gaps as we like.

Impact

So if neither is objectively more shallow or deep, why do I prefer the movie's ending? Simple: because of what it adds to the story - the significance, the impact.

In the books, Rosie's steadfastness adds because the Shire has been torn apart. The Shire is heartbreakingly upside-down, yet Tolkien gives us Rosie to hold onto: she is still the same, and she and Sam are able to get married at the end even after everything, giving readers much-needed comfort.

But in the movies, the Shire is tranquil. We already have the comfort of everything being the same back home (though with an additional discomfort of no longer fitting in). To have Rosie and Sam already basically established wouldn't add anything.

Instead, we see it is Sam's adventure that gives him the courage to finally pursue her, and this adds so much to Sam's character. Sam, who is so self-deprecating, who doesn't get fancy titles like the rest of his friends, who generally does not see himself as a hero.

What does it tell us if, prior to the adventure he felt unworthy of her, but now after the adventure he feels worthy of her? It tells us that Sam finally sees himself as heroic.

And that is a wonderful, wonderful thing.

#samwise gamgee #rosie cotton #the lord of the rings #meta

[glorf1ndel]

Who is your party partner on this Hobbit Day? 😄🎉

#lotr #lord of the rings #the hobbit #belladonna took #bilbo baggins #frodo baggins #samwise gamgee #merry brandybuck #pippin took #rosie cotton #lobelia sackville baggins

[emilybeemartin]

Pretty soon we'll be getting some new chicks to accompany our other two hens, and I really want to name one Rosie Cotton.

#lord of the rings #lotr #rosie cotton #hobbit #chickens