#oh dooku

[charmwasjess]

Uh, I got into the Clone Wars last night. I mean, the Clone Wars wasn’t stored safely out of my reach. I chewed it all up and left the little pieces everywhere like a cat with a roll of toilet paper. 

Anyway, you know that one episode where Savage Opress visits Planet Dumpster Fire to rescue Maul with help from the talking snake from Disney’s The Jungle Book?? Cool, yeah, that one. 

–so could I have a moment to theorize why Dooku thinks Savage being loose in the galaxy is such a big fucking deal in the first place? When Asajj, who hates him a lot more and has tried to assassinate him repeatedly, is like, right over there? When, actually, the galaxy is full of powerful Force users who want to kill him, including some members of his own family?

Could it be that Dooku, in a characteristic spiral of destabilization after losing Asajj as a Padawan substitute right hand man, actually behaved pretty embarrassingly in front of Savage? Does Savage have some pretty bad shit on him?

Embarrassing Bullshit Dooku Probably Said to Savage During Their Infinitesimally Short Apprenticeship:

multiple incriminating monologues about his plans to "secretly" use Savage to finally fuck up Sidious and take over as the King of Bad Ideas instead of the apprentice*

“Here is my annotated childhood diary containing all my most cringe moments, my feelings of inadequacy and vulnerability, some gay subtext, and the origin story of my daddy issues, beginning at age 12…oh, don’t forget the attached media file, so you can see how cute I was as an initiate…!” 

(during movie night) “...and the Wicker Man, for me, as an actor, is definitely the best film…in the end horrifying, but not what I would call a horror film. It was about growth, not decay…” 

it’s a EU/Legends situation, and Sifo-Dyas’s corpse is actually in a cryopod in the basement. Dooku monologues at it constantly. Sometimes, Savage swears he can hear two people talking down there, and doesn’t know if that’s real or if Dooku is doing the other voice, and is legitimately unsure which alternative is more terrifying. Sure, he grew up with witches and everything, but this is a bridge too far?!!

*lol this one's real

#the clone wars #count dooku #savage opress #star wars shitpost #star wars meta #star wars theories #oh dooku #there's nothing scarier than your homelife #the sound of crying in the bathtub should probably be on this list too #for real though Wicker Man is Christopher Lee's best film and my favorite movie #I don't tell a lot of people that #because of all the sex and screaming about burning Christians it's just a vibe

[jaguarys]

On the note of the snippet I posted. Ultimately what makes me go batshit insane about the Sith is that it's truly not about the magic of it all. It's about people being hurt and hurting others in turn.

What it is to become a Sith is to enmesh yourself, forever, in pain. It's at the very forefront of the doctrine, but even ignoring the mentality of it, on the basest level it is about physical and emotional pain. In agreeing to be an apprentice, you're agreeing to years of torture. You're agreeing to anything your master chooses to subject you to; they themselves have suffered as you have and they're chomping at the bit to inflict it upon you too. They have convinced themselves this pain has made them strong, but it has only made them vindictive.

Becoming a Sith is not about becoming powerful. It's about surviving the sheer horror of the training itself and convincing yourself survival is the same as control, that it's the same as power. It's about taking the seething, burning hatred you feel for the person who has tortured you and passing it onto your student, and repeating this for centuries. It's about licking your own wounds, not only the physical but those of centuries of disgraced Sith before you, hiding in the shadiest corners of the galaxy with no one but the person you hate most and believe you owe everything to.

The Sith are fundamentally pathetic, fundamentally impotent, fundamentally miserable, and it simply cannot be extricated from the mess of it all

#at the end of the day i truly can't help but feel bad for them #because damn. get some help. break that cycle. i believe in you #can you tell i've spent WAY too long thinking about the scene in which palpatine is tortured by plagueis and going Oh. #So that's not a palpatine thing huh. that's just a sith thing #personal #star wars #star wars meta #star wars analysis #palpatine #sheev palpatine #sw palpatine #palpatine star wars #star wars palpatine #darth plagueis #darth vader #count dooku #darth maul #sw sith #star wars sith #sith #the force #fandom: star wars #type: meta

[padawansuggest]

Idk where it’s going but I want an AU where Jaster and Jango are at the post office near the Senate on Coruscant so they can send out a package standing behind Qui-Gon in line who’s got Obi-Wan on his hip like a toddler (his 14 year old baby finally learned how to slip the toddler leashes and wants to hide under a shelf and Qui-Gon doesn’t have the energy to wrestle him back out when he’s done) and sending Master Dooku a hard copy letter about why he IS NOT joining him on Sereno for a yearly family gathering because he can be judged just fine from the comfort of the temple, and it’s much more insulting to send it through the post office because it’s easy to hand a letter to the temple curriers but this is Taking Effort, and extra effort at that because he’s wrangling his 14 year old baby while doing it, and Jaster and Jango are like ‘jetti!’ And then Obi-Wan pops out from where he’s mostly hidden in Master’s robes and they’re all ‘0.0 BABY JETTI’ and now they’re trying to woo the small boy and asking him a million questions (‘what’s ur master doing?’ ‘Sending grandmaster hate mail’ ‘why are you in his arms’ ‘I found out how to get the lock open on my leash’ ‘are you crying?’ ‘No it’s allergies I’m allergic to everything’ *rubs his snotty nose into Qui-Gon’s neck while Qui looks for patience* ‘are you hungry? We know a good place that does fritters’ ‘yes, I’m starving if ur buying’) and now Qui-Gon is standing to the side while they send off their package because his child wants fritters and awkwardly explaining to his son he just made besties with a king and prince who he insulted multiple times and sneezed on twice and can you plz behave for five seconds today so they don’t start a war with Mandalorians? No. No he cannot behave that long. It’s okay, the Mandos seem charmed by his bad manners and horrible open mouthed coughs like he’s a born and raised plague spreader. He is, btw. The Mandos take them out to lunch and all of them are dismayed when Obi-Wan leaves Dex’s diner having decided that out of all his new friends, Dex won the new bestie challenge. He gave Obi-Wan a milkshake and a cookie.

#star wars #obi wan kenobi #feral obi wan #baby wan #qui gon jinn #master dooku #jaster mereel #jango fett #dexter jettster #if grandpa wants baby time he can come over and babysit like a normal man plz #Qui gon is oh so very sleepy and will accept someone else feeding his child rn #child leash

[penelopwgarcia]

the disaster lineage is basically

master: I don't want a padawan

*gets a padawan anyway*

master and padawan:

#except maybe jinn who was kind of a jerk #but then again they're all like oh i dont want a padawan #disaster lineage #qui gon jinn #obi wan kenobi #anakin skywalker #ahsoka tano #count dooku #yoda #star wars

[amadwinter]

AgriCorps Obi-Wan who always seems to get into trouble. No matter how peaceful a far-off planet seems to be, whenever Obi-Wan Kenobi is assigned to assist, somehow he ends up inciting a rebellion or uncovering assassination plots right and left. The Jedi Council finds this as troublesome as they privately do amusing

In what Obi-Wan assumes is a punishment for his most recent misadventure (but is actually an attempt to see if someone can actually make a meaningful difference outside of the usual processes), Obi-Wan is given an impossible task. As a part of a treaty with the Hutts over a hyperspace lane at the start of the Clone Wars, Obi-Wan is sent to Tatooine of all places where getting anything to grow is the futile effort of a lifetime.

A large part of his work involves spending time with moisture farmers to learn the lay of the land and how best to work with the local populace. He's in charge of a survey team, but experience has taught him that very little can be accomplished without the cooperation of those who already live on the planet.

And that's how he meets Anakin Skywalker, the best mechanic in Hutt Space, and the leader of a burgeoning slave rebellion. He doesn't seem like much more than regular moisture farmer, but the Force guiding him, Obi-Wan knows that Anakin is someone truly special.

Or perhaps that's just lust talking, because Anakin is stunning in more than just an intellectual manner.

#palps gets eaten by the zillo beast and dooku gets murdered by ventress #the war ends and eventually the jedi turn their attentions back to smaller matters #“now where has obi-wan gotten off to?” #“oh. he's unionized tatooine.” #“let's just keep looking the other way.” #just picturing anakin using his husband's garden lab to strategize #because of course they end up married. anakin insists. #obikin #random ideas #what my brain produces when i'm trying to procrastinate writing

[yukipri]

I saw somewhere someone says it wasn't the Jedi fault what happened at Galidraan, they were there to arrest and investigate, not to kill, and it was the mando who attack first. Is that true ? I didn't read it

Ahh fandom misunderstandings about Galidraan continue.

Understandable, given it's from a relatively obscure base media but the event comes up a lot in fan works. I'll do my best to break it down.

All you need to know about the Massacre on Galidraan

The following info is all from the Legends comic Jango Fett: Open Seasons, specifically focussing on the 3rd installment, Winter. Here's a photo of my physical copy I have open as I type this, so you know I'm not pulling this info out of my ass.

First, some crucial facts:

1: Galidraan was not a Mandos vs Jedi conflict.

It may appear that way at first glance, and likely seemed that way to many outsiders across the Galaxy who only read about the massacre in a heavily censored news article. But while the battle was the True Mandalorians fighting against the Jedi and ultimately all dying except for Jango, that is not what the conflict was about.

2: There were 4 factions involved in Galidraan.

People oftentimes boil it down to Mandos vs Jedi, but that isn't accurate, because there were 4 parties involved:

The True Mandalorians (Haat Mando'ade; Jango's people)

The Jedi

Death Watch (led by Tor Vizsla, who killed Jaster, Jango's mentor)

The Governor of Galidraan

I have no idea why some fandom takes on Galidraan forget to mention the last two, when they are why the massacre took place at all.

3: The party responsible for the conflict on Galidraan was DEATH WATCH, with the Governor of Galidraan as their accomplice.

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The Jedi were used, and the True Mandalorians were victims.

You can endlessly debate whether or not the Jedi or the True Mandalorians could have taken different actions to have possibly prevented the massacre. And it's true, it might have been possible! There were certainly other actions that both sides could have taken.

HOWEVER. That discussion can ONLY take place after understanding that both sides were very intentionally, and very MALICIOUSLY manipulated by a third party.

This was not a normal Jedi vs Mandos clash. Neither the Jedi nor the True Mandalorians would have fought (would have even been on the planet in the first place!) without these manipulations, so to ask which of the two was to blame without first understanding that Death Watch set them up is failing to get Galidraan at all.

Here's what happened at the Massacre of Galidraan:

Jango and the True Mandalorians took a job from the Governor of Galidraan to kill his political opponents. The True Mandalorians are mercenaries, and this was just a job for them. It's also implied that Jango knew in advance that the Governor of Galidraan had been harboring Tor Vizsla and funding Death Watch*, and he intentionally took the job in order to get the Governor to owe him and pay him with information on them.

Jango and the True Mandalorians killed the Governor's political opponents, just as they were hired to do, and upheld their agreement. When Jango goes to collect payment, it was a trap—Tor Vizsla and Death Watch were waiting for him, and attempted to kill him.

Jango escapes, but his jetpack is damaged, as are his comms (or perhaps more likely, his comms were intentionally blocked). This is important because Jango now knows explicitly that they were set up: that the Governor of Galidraan was always working with Death Watch, and that he and his people being called to this planet was a trap in order to kill them. He tries to warn the True Mandalorians (Myles, his second, to be exact) to evacuate, but is unable to reach them because of his comms connection.

Back with Death Watch and the Governor, after Vizsla fails to kill Jango, they watch as the Jedi land on planet. The Governor states: "Yes, as you [Tor Vizsla] instructed, I begged for [the Jedi/the Republic's] help. Informed them that the Mandalorians were slaughtering political activists, which is basically true."

So, let's get this straight: the Governor of Galidraan, who personally HIRED the True Mandalorians to get rid of his political opponents, is now calling the Jedi to say "Oh no the Mandalorians are killing political activists!" And he did so under the explicit orders of Tor Vizsla. He explicitly backstabbed the True Mandalorians.

Should note that the True Mandalorians do follow a code, and only killed the specific people considered a threat (aka combatants). The True Mandalorians did not touch civilians, but as you can see from frames above, Death Watch goes ahead and kills them to make false evidence against the True Mandalorians and therefore justify their slaughter.

Again: Death Watch/Tor Vizsla and the Governor of Galidraan EXPLICITLY set up the True Mandalorians/Jango.

Next: Jango gets back to the True Mandalorians' camp as soon as he can, and arrives just as a large group of Jedi arrive, led by Dooku. Their lightsabers are already drawn.

Dooku says to them: "You stand accused of murder. Surrender now and we will ensure that you are fairly treated."

The girl next to Dooku, presumably young Komari Vosa, adds, "But fight us, and we will bring swift justice!"

Jango's response: "Mandalorians, open fire! And shoot the loudmouth first!"

And so the battle begins.

Without any of the previous context, sure, it might be easy to say "Jango's responsible, he fired first." But take a moment to think about what led up to this moment.

Jango knows, explicitly, that Death Watch and the Governor are working together.

He knows that Death Watch just wants him dead, and in fact very literally just escaped being killed.

He knows that he and his people are caught in a trap, and that Death Watch and the Governor want them all dead.

He probably isn't sure how they're going to be killed—until he arrives back at camp, and sees a shitton of Jedi with their lightsabers drawn, who are accusing them of a crime they did not commit. And he must have thought, ah, that would do it.

This isn't a normal encounter with the Jedi. It's true that Mandalorians have reasons to dislike Jedi as a whole, but Jango didn't shoot first because of that.

Jango shot first because he recognized that the Jedi were the weapon that Death Watch and the Governor chose for the execution of himself and his people. And he wasn't wrong.

Could Jango have maybe stopped to have a gentlemanly chat with Dooku and say "Good sir, we did not commit any murder, you were told false information and are being manipulated and we the True Mandalorians have been set up. Please put away your lightsabers so we can talk"? I mean. He could have. But.

With all of the context above, his decision to raise arms also makes sense.

After the battle, all fo the True Mandalorians present have been killed except Jango, as well as roughly half of the Jedi. Many of those Jedi were killed by Jango himself, with nothing but his bare hands—this is how he gains his infamous reputation as a "Jedi Killer." But to him, he was acting in self-defense.

The Jedi—or rather, at least Dooku—realize that they have been used only after the fact, and that they've done something horribly wrong and have killed innocents. Surrounded by the bodies of Jedi and True Mandalorians, and having just watched Jango strangle one last Jedi, Dooku says:

"What have we done...?"

In the "present" of the comic (pre-clone deal), Dooku also tells Sidious about Galidraan, "It was a misguided mission from the start. And not the first of the Council's many...poor decisions."

So what happened afterwards?

Jango alone was captured alive, and for some darn reason the Jedi turned him over to the Governor of Galidraan*. The Governor sold Jango to slavers and he was forced to work on a spice transport, until an opportunity arose to escape.

After escaping, did Jango seek out the Jedi?

No.

He beelined straight back to Galidraan, where the Governor, who had sold him and worked with Death Watch, had taken his armor (Jaster's armor) as some sort of twisted war trophy. He recovered his armor, and threatened the governor to get info on Tor Vizsla's location.

After that, did he go on a revenge campaign against the Jedi?

No.

He went straight for Tor Vizsla, who was PERSONALLY responsible for the deaths of the True Mandalorians at Galidraan. And he fought him. And killed him.

(or more specifically, injured him then let dire-cats eat him alive. Looks like Fetts have always had good luck with animals)

So that's the facts about Galidraan.

After Thoughts:

I hope this breakdown of the events makes it explicitly clear that Death Watch and the Governor were at fault for Galidraan, and that it was never a Mandos vs Jedi conflict. The same thing would have happened had Death Watch chosen a different executioner—though to be fair, not much can kill a trained group of Mandalorian mercenaries like the True Mandalorians.

Could both the True Mandalorians and Jedi have taken different actions that could have averted tragedy? Possibly. But just as likely, had Jango tried to talk, word would have reached the Jedi's ears that oh no, more Mandalorians are slaughtering the Galidraan women and children! (what Death Watch was doing while the True Mandos and Jedi were fighting) and then one of the more hot headed Jedi like Vosa probably would have been like "These negotiations are a distraction! Even now you're killing innocents—we fight!" And the True Mandos would have been killed anyway.

Again, they were set up. The True Mandalorians to be killed, the Jedi to be used as their ignorant executioner. They were not the only parties involved, and any attempt to peacefully negotiate their way out of it would have been hindered by the true aggressors, who already had contingency plans at the ready. And also, both parties were already expecting certain things of the other: Jango knew the Jedi had been sent to kill them (though not why the Jedi believed they should), and the Jedi thought they were a bunch of murderers, not a professional group simply hired for a job.

This is just my personal take, but while I don't think either Jango nor Dooku acted unreasonably at the time of the battle, there were two points where I think they could have made better decisions (marked with * above):

1) When Jango decided to take a job on Galidraan in the first place, knowing in advance that the Governor was friendly with Tor Vizsla and Death Watch. Admittedly, the comic doesn't provide much context for this, and perhaps the intel Jango had suggested a more distant connection, or something else to imply the Governor would be willing to rat out Death Watch. It seems almost cute that Jango goes ok, well I don't want to just randomly bust this guy's door down to threaten him for info on my arch nemesis, so I'm going to do a job for him and get him to owe me, and then we'll talk.

If there is one not so intelligent move Jango made, it seems like this one, though again there's not much context so perhaps it does make more sense.

2) When the Jedi give Jango to the Governor of Galidraan. I don't know about the rest of the Jedi, but Dooku at least seemed to sense that something had gone horribly wrong with the mission immediately after the battle, before they took Jango into custody. But despite KNOWING this, they didn't take the time to thoroughly investigate (better late than never) before handing Jango to his enemies on a silver platter. I would say that the Jedi ARE pretty responsible for this part, especially since they had reason to know better.

This action of the Jedi handing Jango over also implies that even if Jango had complied and he and all of the True Mandalorians had surrendered to the Jedi in hopes of talks, the Jedi would have handed them all over to the Governor (and Death Watch) to either be turned into slaves or executed. So no, I don't think that would have worked out well at all.

(I'm going to give at least Dooku the benefit of doubt, since the comic shows that at least he (and possibly he alone of the Jedi present) recognized that something was wrong. I'd hope that as the leader and presumably most senior member of the group of Jedi, he'd have some sort of authority, but then again, this is the Senate. He might have tried to at least delay Jango being handed over to the Governor until an investigation was conducted, but was perhaps held back by too much legal tape, and had to watch as someone he was sure was a victim was handed over to a suspicious party. Maybe he personally did an investigation afterwards and found that his bad feelings were correct, but when he tried to bring it up with the Council/Senate, he was told to forget about it. That would certainly shatter what remaining faith he had in the Republic and the Jedi, and possibly also lead him to search out Jango specifically as a candidate for the clone project—but again, this is purely speculation. Either way, Galidraan forms a potentially very fascinating connection between Dooku and Jango that predates Sidious.)

On the Jedi:

While the Galidraan conflict isn't about the Jedi, and they were simply used, I think internally, it does reveal some deep flaws in the Jedi Order as a whole, and that Dooku's criticisms of how they acted are fair. Dooku tells Jango, "[Galidraan] was the last of my foolish errands for the Senate. And the Jedi."

The Jedi are supposed to be peacekeepers, are supposed to understand and help people across the Galaxy, which their connection to the Force is supposed to help with. But by becoming an entity controlled by a political power that responds to mission requests through that chain, the Jedi are at risk of being used for various political agendas, sometimes to terrible consequences—like at Galidraan.

The quote above shows that the orders for the Jedi came from the Senate, who got them from the Governor of Galidraan. The fact is that the Jedi are a completely external force with zero familiarity with Galidraan or its current happenings, who were summoned by a government to do their bidding. If there was any investigation done, it clearly wasn't enough, and the Jedi were essentially turned into super deadly government attack dogs.

Galidraan laid bare the great danger that the Jedi can be, when their power is given to the wrong hands. Again, the Jedi were used—but that they could be used, that they likely have been used in the past and will be used in the future so long as they are beholden to a Republic whose orders they must follow—that's something to think about.

Again, it's not about Jedi vs Mandos. Sure, the fact that the Jedi have bad history with Mandos may have affected the lack of depth in their investigation. But it could have just as easily been "Group of X people are murdering innocents!" and the very same thing could have happened. This conflict revealed far less, "wow the Jedi really hate Mandos!" and more, "the Jedi and the Republic have a flawed relationship, and obeying government orders does not necessarily a peacekeeper make."

Given that the Jedi decided to give Jango to the Governor, I think it's very likely that no deep investigation was ever done into Galidraan, and if it was, it was covered up. After all, it's against the Republic's interests to show that they passed manipulated info to the Jedi, because they can't have the Jedi wanting to question future orders or worse, refuse to obey! And in a way, it's against the Order's interests to show that they not only fucked up by going to the mission at all, but further fucked up by handing the last surviving victim to the enemy after the fact. Add to that the fact that Death Watch was on site actively manipulating evidence and muddling the truth, and Jango no longer has anyone left alive to vouch for him so it's only his word, it's very likely that the truth really never got out of the small circle of those personally involved.

Perhaps the Jedi taught about Galidraan internally as a cautionary tale about being careful about the orders they're given. But given the above, I think that's incredibly generous and frankly unlikely.

On Jango Fett

This leads me to a final point: I disagree that Jango passionately hates and wants revenge on the Jedi.

At least, based on this story, as well as his depiction in the Bounty Hunters video game (which is supposed to be a sequel to this comic, even though its depiction of the start of the cloning contract isn't mutually compatible with the version in this comic) Jango doesn't actually really appear to care all that much about the Jedi at all.

You can say what you will about his actions, but he always has a very clear target for who his enemy is, and he goes straight for them. Immediately post Galidraan, it was the Governor of Galidraan and then Tor Vizsla specifically—not even the rest of Death Watch!

And while there isn't all that much official info on what Jango did after he killed Vizsla until he was pulled into the cloning project, I see zero evidence that he was consumed by revenge, or that he attempted to hunt down the rest of Death Watch or kill any Jedi despite the harm they have done to him in the past.

In fact, from his depiction at the start of the Bounty Hunters game, which I think is the best source of this period of his life that I can think of, it looks like Jango just kind of threw himself into bounty hunting work. After all, one does not have the reputation as "best bounty hunter in the galaxy" overriding "former Mand'alor, leader of the True Mandalorians" unless he did, well, a lot of bounty hunting.

He was a loner who didn't have any friends, which implies he didn't go looking for any surviving True Mandalorians—and there must have been, not everyone could have been in that battle. I suspect it's out of guilt, but that's a separate discussion. He didn't go hunting Jedi specifically, because presumably not many Jedi (who still identify as Jedi) have bounties on them, and "Jedi Killer" would certainly be a reputation louder than bounty hunter if that was his main focus.

But no. He was just a sad, lost dude who's really good at killing people so continues the Honorable Mercenary traditions of his people who are now gone, all by himself. Even the contest that lead to him being chosen as the Prime clone was originally just another job, and he just happened to meet Montross in the process, but he didn't really go out of his way to hunt him down either, despite how he was personally responsible for Jaster's death.

However—if you don't know that about Jango, and again don't have a full understanding of what happened at Galidraan (which again, I doubt many people do), I think it would be very easy to go oh! The Jedi killed all his people! So of course he hates Jedi!

(Which then provides a reason for why the Sith would think he would want to work with them to hurt Jedi—but does NOT explain why the Jedi would not think it suspicious that he's the Prime clone for an army supposedly made to help them. But that too is a separate exploration.)

All of this makes Jango a very fascinating character for me, and I could go on to explore his motivations and actions so much more—and in fact I do!!! All of those explorations of Jango and his motives and past are included as a large part of my fic, The Prime Override! So I won't go into it more here, this post is long enough, but you can check out my thoughts there! (LMAO sudden self-promo)

But anyway!!! I hope this whole thing was interesting for you, and that it helped you understand what happened at Galidraan better!

Again, the comic is Jango Fett: Open Seasons, written by Hayden Blackman, art by Ramon Bachs, Raul Fernandez, and Brad Anderson, published by Dark Horse Comics in 2002.

While I believe the standalone comic is out of print (I had to hunt down my copy on ebay), it's all included in Marvel Unlimited's digital comic library. It's also in the Star Wars Omnibus: Emissaries & Assassins collection, which might be cheaper because it's more recent.

As tragic as Jango's past is, it's one of my favorite Legends stories and I recommend reading the story for yourself if you can!

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#YukiPri rambles #YukiPri replies #Galidraan #Jango Fett #Star Wars #Star Wars Legends #Count Dooku #SW Lore #Open Seasons #comics #longpost #long post #OP comment: All of this is also why it absolutely BAFFLES me that new canon seems so obsessed with Death Watch #and has made lots of other Mando factions but hasn't really done much about the True Mandalorians??? #like that is what I was expecting the Book of Boba Fett to be about #especially given the timing of being after Mando S2 and Din getting the Darksaber but before Mando S3 #Should note: this comic predates the Darksaber's existence by 8 years #so people who say 'oh Jango and Jaster were never the true leaders of Mandalore bc they never had the Darksaber' #my dude the Darksaber did not appear as a concept until 8 years after these stories were published #Anyway if you are like me and think gosh most of the new canon Mando factions are real assholes in some way or another #why is there no Hero Group #here they are: the True Mandalorians and Boba Fett's heritage #Anyway really REALLY hoping they bring this story back into new canon #Jaster was an easter egg and now technically canon thanks to Boba's armor chain code which means True Mandos are also presumably canon #so here's to hoping... #Anyway yeah I wrote this essay in place of updating fic oops

[count-doodoo]

sometimes i think "wow the jedi and sith had so many similarities", and then i realize that i'm thinking of fallen jedi who simply retained some of their jedi characteristics

case in point: "both dooku and the jedi were manipulated into fighting the clone wars for the sole benefit of palpacreep" -> "dooku was a jedi manipulated into war against the republic, and then the other jedi fought him"

or: "wow dooku loves teaching ventress just like jedi love their padawans" -> "dooku is a former jedi who used to show more love for his padawans"

so really all i've ever thought is "palpacreep is an asshole"

#jedi positive #(kinda?? idk) #dooku #jedi order #palpatine #star wars #prequel trilogy #star wars meta #(also kinda) #i swear i had other examples that weren't dooku #but oh well #grandpa warcrimes #always on the mind

[totallycorrectjediorderquotes]

Ashoka: It’s Dooku

Ahsoka: No doubt he’s going to say the most fiendish and heartless thing you’ve ever heard!

Dooku: What a lovely day

Ahsoka: Take that back, you fiend!

#Ahsoka Tano #Count Dooku #Dooku #star wars #star wars: the clone wars #tcw #Star Wars the Expanded Universe #Star Wars the Prequel trilogy #incorrect star wars quotes #Source: Yu-Gi-Oh! The Abridged Series

[rochenn]

sits down. what do you think dooku would do if he needed to produce an heir for, yknow, nobility reasons. i have a self-indulgent oc about this but i am deeply curious what you think he'd do l

hell yeah dude indulge in that! very interesting question!! one of the fics i'm working on briefly touches on this - dooku's POV goes on a bit of a tangent about matters of succession (because he probably would get pestered by his advisors about an heir lmao)

so. i think a spouse is one of the last things he'd want to have in his castle, second only to an infant. if dooku absolutely had to produce a biological heir, though, he'd likely make them live in a separate manor with the other parent and only check in to make sure the child's education is to his liking. and if not. well. a+ parenting inbound, the daddy issues are gonna keep running in the family etc etc

because the thing about biological children is that you can't choose them. some jedi habits are so ingrained in dooku that i believe he doesn't care as much about his bloodline as he does about his Lineage. a bio kid is all sorts of trouble. why bother with that when for all his life he's been able to pick from the best of the best superpowered 13-year-olds?

he'd want his heir to be someone thoroughly mentored and molded by him, but not from birth. god knows what could have happened if obi-wan had at any point joined him or if dooku hadn't fucking obliterated his bridge to ventress. i am currently imagining an older asajj presiding over castle serenno and UGHHHH yeah that would be cool as fuck. she deserves that. what a thought!!

so yeah, in conclusion i think dooku would pull every lever possible to avoid marriage and conception :'D and if not he'd be as 1950s distant father about the whole heir-creating process as possible.

thank you for the ask! i love thinking about this sort of stuff!

#ask #count dooku #oh god now my brain is full of count asajj #let her grow into the cuntiest most hypnotizing old lady ever. fuck!!!!!!!!! #anyway don't let this old fool procreate <3 hand him a condom or the pill

[inonibird]

An acrid billow of hot smoke penetrated the depths of his hood, and he turned away from the wind. They were close enough now that his maneuver scarcely managed to alleviate the choking reek; the wreckage of the Kaleesh shuttle scattered the waves all around their vessel, flames lashing through the darkness and warming the cool ocean air.

Small spotlights illuminated the choppy surface of the sea, guiding the aqua droids to their target, half-submerged in the water some distance from the bulk of the smoldering debris. He watched as they swam their cables out toward the bobbing, damaged cockpit, cracking its canopy open like a bivalve and clambering inside to secure the asset. The anchored cables began winching the droids back to the ship, a tortured screech of metal on metal in dire need of lubricant. With a gesture, he directed the IG-series units to step forward and help the aqua droids haul a tattered shape up over the side of the ship to drop, unresisting and dripping brine, at his feet.

Count Dooku stared down at a promise.

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Chapter 1 (Prologue) of Part Six - Grievous of the Sahuldeem series is up!

#Inoni Writes #Sahuldeem #Star Wars #fanfic #Qymaen jai Sheelal #General Grievous backstory #Kaleesh #Count Dooku #San Hill #Part Six - Grievous #Sahuldeem spoilers #oh boy #here we go #if you thought this series was tragic before... #(wish there was a way to make a proper prologue but oh well) #(still love ya AO3)

[shootingstarpilot]

Last Line Challenge

Rules: In a new post, show the last line you wrote (or drew) and tag as many people as there are words (or however many you like).

Thanks for the tag, @merlyn-bane! I've written so much during this last week because there was one scene in particular that I really wanted to share for this 😅

So this next chapter will be mostly a flashback one from Qui-Gon's POV, looking back over the past month, and that means that certain characters are making appearances...

Later, after all cups have been emptied and Obi-Wan’s blinks are growing ever-slower, Dooku rises to his feet.  “I am glad,” he says, his voice gentling, “that my fool of a Padawan has come to his senses at last.” A slow, sleepy smile crawls across Obi-Wan’s face, and Dooku’s expression softens. “Qui-Gon. A moment, if you would?” When the door slides shut behind them, Qui-Gon braces himself for a tongue-lashing. What he gets instead is Dooku’s steady gaze, and, eventually, a sigh.  “I’m leaving again tomorrow,” he says quietly.  “So soon?” “Mm. I should return in a month or so, should all go according to plan.” For a moment, silence falls. “I’d expected… something else from you,” Qui-Gon ventures. All things considered, the last time they’d spoken– Dooku sighs. “And what good would that do? Your guilt will not absolve you. Perhaps that’s what I’ll allow for my anger, then– I will not let you find relief in it.” He reaches out, drops a hand onto Qui-Gon’s shoulder– “I meant what I said,” he says quietly. “I am glad to see you find yourself again. I have missed you.” Qui-Gon ducks his head, aching like a bruise. Nothing like a conversation with his old master to make him feel like a padawan again. The hand on his shoulder squeezes before dropping away. “Do take care of yourself, Padawan.”

No-pressure tags for, hmm... @jedi-enthusiast, @aquamarin-sky, @foreverchangingfandomsao3, @wanderingjedihistorian, @drauthor, @aquaticflames, and whoever else wants to participate!

#oh dooku dooku dooku #you're gonna be in for some shit #shoulder the sky

[charmwasjess]

Lightsaber Theory: Obi-Wan "Sith Lords are Our Specialty" Kenobi consistently loses duels to Dooku not for any reason of technical form mismatch or lack of ability, but because Dooku is not even pretending to try to kill him. Resultantly, Obi-Wan can’t figure out what the fuck is going on when they fight. 

Obi-Wan: (preparing to defend an expected lethal strike) You’ll answer for your enormities, Count!

Dooku: (giving him the lightest love tap on the leg) Don’t be so sure, my special good lineage baby boy, so perfect in my eyes. 

Obi-Wan: …What?

Dooku: What?

Which Dooku and Obi-Wan proud lineage moment is even the most unhinged? There are so many to choose from! Is it Dooku’s frequent inability, both in AotC and TCW, to keep from spontaneously gushing about Sidious’s plans and even his own dark secrets to Obi-Wan?? Is it the time in Labyrinth of Evil where Dooku drags a long-suffering, bored Grievous over to watch a holorecording of Anakin and Obi-Wan thwarting his plans yet again, to point out how beautifully they’re working together as a team and how much he likes watching their lightsaber work evolve? Is it in the recent Brotherhood novel, where Obi-Wan just has to casually namedrop Qui-Gon to get Dooku to do exactly what he wants?

Obi-Wan is a big problem for Sidious in his mission to destabilize and corrupt Anakin, and Sidious knows it. He needs him out of the picture to do the same isolating, evil bullshit that worked so well when ensnaring Dooku himself. But the war has been going on for years now, and guess who remains inconveniently alive? And whose job was that to take care of? Oh yeah. I remember. His useless, Padawan assassin-collecting apprentice: fucking Count Dooku. By the time of RotS, Sidious has specifically ordered Dooku to make fucking sure Obi-Wan is dead only for him to completely ignore the command about a half-dozen times.

Going by the Stover RotS novelization, in the same scene where Dooku also literally refers to Obi-Wan as his fucking grandson actually, add that to our earlier list, Sidious reiterates that KILL OBI-WAN is the plan (over the sound of Dooku’s loud complaining) moments before that final duel.  I kind of wish we’d gotten a shot of Sidious's incredulous, enraged expression as Dooku knocks Obi-Wan unconscious and pins him safely out of the way. He is, once again, going out of his way to not kill Obi-Wan in that duel, and this time directly disobeying his Master to his face after they just had a conversation about it. You just know exactly what Sidious must be thinking at that moment. Oh, Dooku. You are so fucking fired.

#count dooku #obi wan kenobi #darth sidious #disaster lineage #lightsaber nerd stuff #the clone wars #revenge of the sith #star wars books #Sidious is so done #you know he had to wake up every morning of Dooku's apprenticeship and just repeat a calming mantra about not killing him yet #oh no the notoriously defiant rule breaker Jedi I corrupted is acting like a notoriously defiant rule breaker #but really #I love that Dooku was secretly (not so secretly) proud of Obi-Wan

[jewishcissiekj]

Ky Narec to Asajj Ventress - Dooku: Jedi Lost by Cavan Scott

#daily asajj thought of the day #YOU THINK I'D MISS MY OWN FUNERAL? #I WAS STANDING BESIDE YOU. I SAW YOU CRY. #was going through my pictures and oh god #this is my second quinlan was here you don't understand #this is like my favorite ky and asajj thing ever #i love everything about them but thissssss #cavan scott went god mode writing them #sw #star wars #asajj ventress #ventress #ky narec #dooku: jedi lost #dooku jedi lost #cavan scott

[starrstunned]

Oh my god help me 🙏🙏

There's more on the way.

#pumpkin rabbit #the walten files #oh yeah #bonnie pkm x y #pkmn xy #doodle #lol #tf2 #courage the cowardly dog #tf2 sniper #arven pokemon #heavy tf2 #tf2 pyro #count dooku #this is the story of my life #i am so tired #yahoo #yippee #who should i do next? #i have a list #yeah #tf2 shitpost #shitpost #yahaha

[smhalltheurlsaretaken]

YES!!!! HOLY KRIFF YESSSSS!!!!!!! DOOKU FELL BEFORE QUI-GON'S DEATH AND IT'S FINALLY ACKNOWLEDGED IN A SHOW!!!!!!! BLAME YOUR OWN DAMN SELF YOU TRASH GRANDPA!!!!!!!!!

MARINATE IN YOUR GUILT OLD MAN!!!!!!!!

(well they did kinda compromise by making it the thing that pushed him over the edge but it was still his choice before naboo thx.)

(although it's retconning that Dooku left before TPM. Why and HOW did he never meet Obi-Wan then? he wants to, and he and Qui-Gon aren't estranged. how have they never like, seen each other in a hallway?)

#dooku #tales of the jedi #tales of the jedi spoilers #VINDICATION #oh hey i forgot to post that one before the final review

[voidartisan]

More Ideas for TCW Modern AU

No war no drama just a wholesome family sitcom

There is DEFINITELY a roadtrip at some point. Ideally all the clones are shoved into one van and have invited Anakin and Ahsoka and maybe Obi-Wan and Plo to join them

There's a plot point about Korkie getting his driver's license, or Anakin losing his, or both

Ahsoka runs for student council against Lux Bonteri

Yoda teaches the neighborhood kids martial arts and the clones get an "I'll Make a Man Out of You" style training montage

They try to throw a surprise birthday party for Satine but inevitably bungle it somehow

Satine, Padme and Ahsoka have a spa day and Anakin gets arrested

Korkie plays matchmaker

Anakin definitely has a car in the garage that he's working on but has to go to ridiculous lengths to get parts for

Lux, Ahsoka, Korkie, and Barriss all get assigned to the same group for a school project

Fives brings home an espresso machine and all the clones are vibrating at the speed of sound within two days. Cody and Rex have to lock it in the attic and eventually defend it like the last two survivors in a zombie apocalypse movie. Fives sees that it has gone too far and sells it on ebay

Bo-Katan is Korkie's Cool Aunt who lets him do things Satine would not approve of. She occasionally shows up for a couple days with no notice and weirdly prescient gifts for her nephew, crashes on the couch for a night, and then disappears the next morning.

Obi-Wan stress bakes

Obi-Wan and Satine decide to take a week-long vacation to celebrate their anniversary, leaving Anakin in charge. This proves to be a Bad Idea and Plo has to save the day

Lux, Ahsoka, Korkie, Anakin and Barriss go ghost hunting in the abandoned house down the street (all the spooky stuff is just Yoda messing with them)

Rex is constantly looking for excuses to stay over for dinner because both Satine and Obi-Wan are excellent cooks. most of his brothers are... less so.

There's a running gag about Yoda's garden being attacked by demon rabbits that can chew through chicken wire. It's heavily implied that the clones are behind this so that Plo can be the Best Gardener In The Neighborhood, but the bunnies are actually just Like That

Obi-Wan has one of those four-person chessboards that he pulls out on family game nights when Anakin isn't home. Satine is the reigning champion.

Barriss sleeps over and Ahsoka begs everyone to be normal but the fire deparment ends up having to get involved

The clones never discuss it but there's a jar in the background stuffed with coins and bills labeled 'dirt bike fund'

There's a community talent show for some reason. Korkie spends the entire episode doing unrelated and increasingly bizarre things. When anyone asks him about it he says he's preparing for his act. Quinlan keeps trying to get Obi-Wan to do a sword-fighting demonstration with him. The only performance we see in full is Fives's theatrical rendition of "oh where is my hairbrush". All we know about Korkie's act is that he leaves the stage to thunderous applause and Satine and Obi-Wan are in the audience holding hands and shedding tears of pride and joy.

So much potential for holiday episodes

Grandpa Dooku turns up unannounced for thanksgiving dinner (extra tension provided by the fact the Obi-Wan is clearly the favorite grandchild)

Ahsoka, Korkie and Lux try to catch a halloween vandal that turns out to be Barriss

4th of July shenanigans (with fireworks)

Valentine's Day episode where Anakin is consistently foiled in attempts to slip away to see Padme by Ahsoka looking for boy advice because Bariss thinks Lux has a crush on her. Subplot with Obi-Wan and Satine trying to have their first romantic dinner date in like three years but things KEEP COMING UP.

Sentimental Father's Day episode where Anakin and Obi-Wan remember Qui-Gon, and Ahsoka and Korkie attempt to find the PERFECT gifts for Plo and Obi-Wan, respectively (Ahsoka has already found her gift for Obi-Wan, it's that one card that says "what is a dad? you. you is a dad." she knows he'll secretly treasure it), and think they've failed miserably but everything turns out okay and it's very wholesome and a little cheesy.

Wholesome christmas episode where Anakin and Padme have their gift of the magi moment and Ahsoka has to hide that she accidentally found out what Plo is getting her and Satine and Korkie and Obi-Wan make a ridiculoulsy elaborate gingerbread house to bond and relax and the clones and Quinlan have a disastrous holiday light competition (Cody gets to be a little bit feral in this one. as a christmas gift. to himself)

Next season someone is sabotaging the light competition. It turns out to be Obi-Wan, who just wanted to bake cookies and put up his lights in peace like a normal person, which he finds extremely difficult when his neighbors are SCREAMING AT EACH OTHER in their front yards

Cliffhanger at the end of a season where Padme finds out that she's pregnant with twins.

We find out that Leia and Luke call Obi-Wan "Uncle Ben" because his name is really hard to pronounce for two-year-olds and everything they said came out sounding like Ben anyway

When the twins get older there's a very popular clothing brand called Rebel Scum and they get a shirt for Obi-Wan so that he can "be hip with the youngsters." (quoting Luke)

#oh wow this is really long #hope it was worth it #if the clones don't have the kind of chaos inherent to families that large then what is even The Point #and yes lux and barriss also make appearances #there are very much subplots related to obi-wan or satine and padme's work but i haven't come up with them yet #i should be doing homework rn #oh well #obi wan kenobi #satine kryze #count dooku #commander cody #captain rex #fives #padme amidala #korkie kryze #lux bonteri #barriss offee #bo-katan kryze #plo koon #yoda #quinlan vos #leia organa #luke skywalker #star wars #sw #tcw #the clone wars #the clone wars modern au #star wars modern au #tcw modern au