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blueopinions49 · 1 year

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Understanding Type 5

An intro to enneagram 5

Beth Harmon (Queens Gambit) INTJ 5w4 so/sp

Core Desire (Exploration of the Mind)- They crave knowledge and understanding of the world around them.

Vice (Avarice)-They will cling to things (Not necessarily material) and keep them guarded in order to feel a sense of comfort.

Fixation (Miser)- Will hide away their knowledge and general understanding of things due to feeling like it doesn't give as much result as it takes to share it.

Wings

5w4 (The Philosopher)- With the w4 they become more interested in metaphysical constructs and imaginative processes. Interested in the aesthetic and symbolic representation of things. Might be more introverted possibly a bit more on the intense side. Emotionally inaccessible while maintaining a level of intesity. But due to being a withdrawn type and a rejection type all of this emotional intensity is purely internal.

5w6 (The Troubleshooter)- While the 5w4 will focus on metaphysical constructs and the understanding of the metaphysics on knowledge the 5w6 will be more interested in the categorization of this knowledge. Will be more practical than then 5w4. More likely to be interested in the applicability of this knowledge in the outer world. Due to their interest in practicality they are gonna be more interested in methodical processes than imaginative ones.

Triads- Head (5-6-7)

they have a tendencies to withhold all of their emotions to avoid all form of emotional attachment.

Harmonic Triad- Competency (1-3-5)

Focuses on the gain of information and performs action in an “objective” manner withholding their emotions from getting in the way.

Hornevian Triad- Withdrawn (4-5-9)

Detach themselves of reality to preserve their selves due to their being avarice they will withhold allot of themselves around others.

Object Relations- Rejections (2-5-8)

They will reject any form of emotional attachment that comes their way. will withhold from any form of emotional attachment.

Subtypes

Social (so)- The social 5 focuses on sharing their knowledge to others they want to expand on information. This subtype will use the knowledge and sharing it in order to keep themselves from feeling. They are more on the social side due to them wanting to share the knowledge they have gained in their life. They are extremely driven, social and competitive. Due to this qualities they can look like 3s and 7s.

Ex- Benoit Blanc (Knives Out) INTJ 5w4 so/sp, Reed Richards (MARVEL COMICS) INTP 5w6 so/sp and Lara Croft ISFP 5w6 so/sp

Sexual (sx)- As the counter type of 5 this subtype will focus on gaining the perfect relationship. They will start the relationship slowly by putting you via certain trails if you will. This subtype is only interested in connecting with someone who they can share their inner world with another who understands them. They can be more sensitive than the other 5s and due to this they'll look like 4s while still being a 5 at their core.

Ex-Joe Goldberg (You) INFJ 5w4 sx/sp, Mister Darcy (Pride and Prejudice) INTJ 5w4 sx/sp and Mother Miranda (RE Village) INTJ 5w6 sx/sp

Self-Preservation (sp) the self-preservation type 5 will hide themselves from others by maintaining themselves away from others by creating physical and metaphysical walls between themselves and others. However they minimize themselves in order to have a safe space for themselves in comfort. They can be more social however it's a social battery that can run out. They can look like 6s sometimes.

Ex-Alice Liddle (Alice in Wonderland) INTP 5w6 sp/sx, Raven INTJ 5w4 (Teen Titans) sp/sx and L (Death Note) INTP 5w4 sp/so

Moves (Positive and Negative)

Moves to 8

Positive- They become In tune with themselves and uses their anger to pursuit their goals more. They become assertive in their wants

Negative-They become more withdrawn and uses their anger punitively to push others away more.

Moves to 7

Positive- They become in tune with the enviorement less paranoid and fearful. Becomes more interested in the outer world and experiences they can find in it.

Negative- Overindulges and becomes distracted easily.

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kalechip247 · 1 year

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INTJ characters

it makes sense that we share the same personality type

#donnie rottmnt #hannibal #v for vendetta #dream #the sandman #number five #umbrella acedmy #ritsu kageyama #mob psycho 100 #ciel phamtonhive #black butler #wednesday addams #the addams family #intj characters #mbti intj

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darkreeds · 1 year

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“he’s so kaz-coded.” no, he’s just an intj. we are brooding and hot and here to win. you love us.

#shadow and bone #six of crows #kaz brekker #intj personality #intj characters #mbti #intj #lockwood and co #anthony lockwood #mbti personality types

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wheresmyfuckintea · 2 years

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INTJ (the architect) - CHARACTERS COMPILATION

-> Ni Te Fi Se

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justanotherinfpgirl · 1 year

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#intj memes #intj #intj feelings #intj characters #16 personality types #mbti #mbti personality types #pride and predjudice #mr darcy #mbti stuff #mbti memes #literature memes #classic literature #lit and mbti

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dumpster-fire-deluxe · 1 year

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Things about Sheev that are very INTJ ("Mastermind")

Introverted, prefers to work alone

Self-confident and hard-working

Focus on the big picture

Likes control and order

Plans things in advance

Sees little value in social rituals

High expectations

Likes to think about the future and explore possibilities

I mean... A lot of these double as his autistic traits lmao

#INTJs scare me #palpatine #sheev palpatine #darth sidious #sheevposting #chancellor palpatine #star wars #emperor palpatine #intj characters #intj #myers briggs

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ambitious--pessimist · 1 year

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update list of my favorite characters: Tori Spring, Wednesday Addams

#intj characters #wednesday addams #tori spring #hearstopper #the addams family #wednesday

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vitamimesea · 2 years

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Just found out that I have a bias to a certain character type…

#mbti #intj #intj characters #mbti memes #intj memes #shitpost

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boatsthatflyy · 1 year

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Favorite INTJs in fiction

#intj #intj characters #mbti #mbti characters #the magicians #the sandman #wednesday #new girl #the witcher #xmen #the queens gambit

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blueopinions49 · 1 year

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Mistyping on MBTI

Introduction

The purpose of this post is to understand what are mistyping and how they happen. I’ll explain some of the patterns ive noticed when it comes to some of the mistypings as well as some of examples ive I personally disagree with. Please dont take any of this as a personal insult if any of these examples I give are things you've done in the past or the typings I disagree with are your own.

Case #1Misunderstanding Functions

-What I refer to by the misunderstanding of functions I mean it's the general purpose of the function and how does this function work and perceive reality. I understand that functions can be complicated and Carl Jung’s definition of Ni can be convoluted and confusing (sometimes just plain vague) however I do think that typing people/characters needs at least allot of backing up with your knowledge of functions. Usually the misunderstanding I see with each functions comes out in these ways.

Si- Memories/Any form of previously obtained knowledge

Se-Impulsiveness and Aggression

Fi-Sensitivy and Emotionality

Fe-Caring

Ti- Thinking in any capacity

Te-Rudeness

Ne- Quirks and Quips

Ni- just knowing stuff

Ex-Sasuke Uchiha (ISFP)- Sasuke is often typed as an INTJ due to his preference for Ni-Fi HOWEVER when it comes to how he perceives reality and his way to deal with conflict its pretty clear he is an Fi dom. There is this misconception of Fi=Sensitivity and Emotionality. However this couldn't be farther from the truth. Fi is simply preferring your Core Values and desire over the other. His goal was always Fi related NOT Ni related.

Case#3 Simplification of Functions

Following the last case this is usually the more common one I see when it comes to mistyping usually people will flatten functions or just straight up default to god awful stereotypes of each type when it comes to typing them. You'll often see people “Trope Type” certain charcaters. Most of their arguments revolve around the aesthetic of the character and then their functions. Which is why those peoples typing will usually look like this.

ESXJ-Mean Girl and stuck up

ISXJ-Boring ones

ESXP-Immature,Dumb or straight up substance abuse

ISXP-Edgy

XNTP-Quips and Quirks but always the smartest

XNFJ-Kind Humanitarian

XNFP-Sentimental mess

XNTJ-Villain

Ex-Naruto Uzumaki (EXFP)I know I previously typed him as an ENFP however I've been thinking of the relation of his Se-Ni throughout the show and I might change my typing. However thus far every single Se dom argument I read for Naruto reads like this “ Well he is immature” “he is impulsive and reckless” “ can't be an Ne dom because Intuitive=smart and Sensor=Dumb” sometimes they don't say this word for word but their arguments boil down to this. And I find it quite frustrating cuz those same people look at you straight in the eye and say that you're intuitive bias, even tho they are the ones defaulting to stereotypes.

Case #4 Positioning of Functions

Character development in MBTI is more complex than character development in Enneagram. Depending on the movie/tv show the character might either develop their inferior function or their tert function. Which is why understanding the position and model you are using for MBTI and be consistent using it. The position of function is important because they are what defined the person and how they approach data management. Also certain characters might have preference for their tert function rather than their aux functions. Some Characters just use their stack in a very balanced way.

Ex- Sokka (ESTJ)- He is often typed as an ENTP due to his exaggerated use of Ne in the later seasons. To me at least he is an ESTJ with a preference for TeNe. Sokka never really uses NeTi in the first book. His priority came in form of TeSi (Organizing the environment with a solid metric and detailed positioning of others). His development came in the form of his Ne not Fi. To the point he ends of sticking to it in Book 2 and Book 3.

Case #4 Character Traits=/=Cognitive Preferences/Perception

Often people conflate how a character/person acts instead of how they think and proceed with conflict. MBTI isnt really a personality theory but rather and understanding of your cognitive process and preference. It's based on how you perceive reality and how you make decisions based on your dominant function. If anything enneagram would be closer to an actual personality test.

Ex- Amy March (ESFP)- I took such a long time to come to this typing because similarly to Naruto people only talked about how she was an annoying immature child. However her monologue points to her stresses and how she must stick to her SeTe rather than SeFi due to how the environment is working and suppressing women in that era.

Case #5 Just making things up

This is the most common one I see when people type characters, they usually just make things up. Sometimes there isn't any contextual evidence on what they are talking about and will mostly differ to broad and vague statements that hold no wait or aren't represented in the narrative. Sometimes they'll just take things out of context and will just go with them and end up convincing people even if their argument is 95% fabricated stuff and the 5% is misunderstanding on their part.

Ex-Ada Wong (IXTJ) Ada Wong’s Ti is non existent and no one online has ever written an argument where I there is enough evidence on what they are saying. Ada isnt a person who is interested in analytical process and internal understanding. Even character development comes from XiFi not Fe. Sorry but liking Leon but not really isnt a good argument for low Fe. Her development isnt about understanding the emotional state of the other or in relation to the other but rather the self. Even OG Resident Evil its stated that she struggles with her own values and emotional state . It's almost as if their argument hinges on ISTP=Spy characters.

Case #6 Misogyny (yeah...we are going there).

Often in typology you'll notice a dichotomy between Female characters vs Male characters. You'll notice that female characters are twice as likely to get typed as Feelers even when they dont show much usage of any feeling function. Often the arguments I see its in reference to either showing the character struggling emotionally or reacting in some way to something bad happening in their life. But when male characters such as Homelander and Patrick Bateman who have multiple emotional outburst in their runs but most people type them as Te doms. While Female characters that have emotional outburst such as Asuka and Jennifer Harding (Both Te doms) both get typed as ESFP because=SeFi=angry and emotional. It often happens in cases such as Bakugo who gets typed as an ESTP but if a female character does the same thing she gets typed as an ESFP. Im not calling you a misygonist if you typed any of this characters like this I just think that you should reconsider your typology process.

Ex-There are allot of these so I just gonna point to a few

Alice Liddle (INTP) - Being typed as an INFP but very clear her struggle is between Ti-Si and understanding her Fe.

Nancy Wheeler (ESTJ)- Being nice=/=Fe she has always preferred TeSi (organizing and structuring things in step by step processes) Over using Fe.

Madison Montgomery (ESTP)- Her character is pure SeTi and her struggle with her Fe is shown in both S3 and S8.

Yenneffer (INTJ)- NiFi reaching the ideal self is her goal also her Te is very on your face.

Part 2 will focus on the enneagram

Please dont take any of this as an attack its an analysis on things ive seen and read if you are gonna disagree please be civil.

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morriganduskaa · 2 years

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Genderbend Vlad and Khali ♥️

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animadiicristallo · 1 year

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ho fatto il test delle 16 personalità è risulta che sono INTJ corrisponde solo il 2% della popolazione di sto pianeta

che strano far parte solo del 2%

#intj characters

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saku-chann · 3 months

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MBTI x Pali 🍉 Part 1 ❤️ Feel free to use them as pfp ! Which one are you ? Which one do you like most ? 👀

(I made these stickers for charity and I'm still trying to find a way to make them useful and accessible ! If you wanna use them to collect funds for charity send me a message ! )

#mbti #16 personalities #16 personality types #infj #infp #intj #esfj #istj #enfp #entp #enfj #mbti art #infj feelings #infp things #mbti fanart #character design #palestine #gaza #art for palestine

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playsthetics · 1 year

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MBTI: My Favourite Characters

INTJ (1/16)

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Effy Stonem (SKINS)

Hannibal Lecter (Hannibal)

Chishiya (Alice in Borderland)

Wednesday Addams (The Addams Family)

Beth Harmon (The Queen’s Gambit)

Vegas (KinnPorsche)

Severus Snape (Harry Potter)

Sana Bakkoush (SKAM)

Kat Stratford (10 Things I Hate About You)

Gregory House (House)

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classic-entp · 1 year

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Classic-ENTP #40

INTJ: I don't like you

ENTP: lol that's funny

INTJ: ...

ENTP: wait... actually?

INTJ: yeah, actually

ENTP: you genuinely don't like me?

INTJ: yep

ENTP: how???

INTJ: what do you mean, "how"? You are very easy to dislike. You're loud, annoying, have the memory of a goldfish, and never take anything seriously

ENTP: ...

ENTP: but those are my best qualities

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the-intp-kid · 1 year

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INFP: i think this guy and this girl are in a relationship

INTJ: proof?

INFP: I've seen them together often, and they seem pretty close

INTP: we often spend time together and aren't in some kind of polyamourus relationship, so your argument is not valid. i don't believe you until you give me some proofs

INTJ: yeah, they could be just friends, so you're saying that girls and boys can't be just friends and will always have romantic shits going on between them? what a stereotype. so, we don't take your invalid arguments. give us some proofs and we'll talk about it

INFJ: I'm sorry, INFP, but I'm with INTP and INTJ this time

INFP: but these two don't even know what romance is tho???

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