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piglet26 · 3 months

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Reylo. Sorry, but it's not abusive

Star Wars is not selling abusive relationships to young girls nor conditioning them into aspiring to them. Reylo is not propaganda from disgruntled single middle aged woman. It wasn't promoting abusive relationships when Luke still found love for his father despite Darth Vader cutting off his hand. Luke fans, young and old, were not attacked as being dumb or needy for liking Luke or how he viewed his father. It damn sure wasn't considered abusive when Anakin choked Padme and she still held hope for him in her heart. Or, that Obi-Wan still held a love for Anakin despite everything Darth Vader had done. Then there was Reylo.

Being a Reylo is not something I feel I need to defend. Let me love what I love in peace. That's what I believe. I did not actually see any of the sequel trilogy until after it was concluded. I was not on any fandoms during the rollout and marketing for the films. Thank God. However, I have gathered enough to understand it was horrible how Reylos were being regarded. It was beyond patronizing. I'm not new to fandom, hell I've been on soap opera fandoms for quite some time and believe me that's a savage space, but wow.

I want to clarify some of the feedback against Reylo and reaffirm why it's such a compelling pairing. Further more, I regard it as an compelling attribute to the Star Wars universe that only added to the franchise.

Now I've seen the domination of woman twisted up and called romance (see Twilight and 50 Shades of Gray), but I don't think people understand WHY those relationship were as such. Rey, on her own, is one of the strongest and most badass female leads to ever appear on the big screen. Despite people thinking she doesn't have a personality she is a resourceful, tough, innocent, loyal, hopeful and strong. She has agency unlike Bella Swan. She is not sexualized by Kylo Ren unlike the 50 shades girl. Her gender is neither a hindrance nor an advantage. She has the agency to save herself, but she is also saved.

Which is really one of the main issues. There is the patronization of Rey as a character, the people who like her and the people who like the pairing. While those 50 shades of gray books didn't buy themselves rather than listening to why Reylos liked the pairing they were told why they did and then dismissed. Or, there's the men that wanted Rey to be with Finn because Finn was the "nice guy" who they identified with.

Rey doesn't need a love interest - not all heroines need love interests, but why does it imply she's weak if she does have a love interest? Heroes infamously have a female counterpart which helps make them viable. It doesn't make them any less interesting as an individual.

Kylo Ren and Rey are NOT a couple but instead representatives of opposing sides in a war. This is the most important part. From the get-go they have an intense dynamic. Both have had visions and dreams of the other and they recognize something in one another. Kylo Ren did kidnap Rey, however, if you consider fighting your enemies “abusive” or interrogating war prisoners as “domestic violence”.............well, that is odd.

As quotes about them

What if your soulmate in the Force was your enemy? Circumstance, pits them against each other, but the Force bonds them together. They understand each other almost from a point of view of fate. And yet, fate has made them enemies.

While Kylo Ren is fascinated by In the moments of the interrogation, gender and sexuality have nothing to do with Kylo’s actions. J.J. made the conscious choice to show us the same scene twice (Kylo Ren interrogating his enemies) so the audience can spot the differences between the two. Sorry J.J, you trusted people too much.

We're able to see very clear aggression and abuse come from Kylo Ren for Poe. He has zero interest in him personally. He needs information and he will get it. The force and his ability to read someone's mind is a tool within his disposal. Now why isn't Poe's interrogation considered sexual assault?

"You know I can take anything I want" HE CAN READ HER MIND! He's not talking about raping her for God's Sake! He asked her to freely provide information and she didn't want to. However, he has a tool to use against a girl adding his enemies - a tool he'll use if she doesn't want to snitch. She knows this he already read her mind - so why not give the information freely?!

Rey also invaded his mind, so did she mind-rape him too?

The line that fans almost never seem to talk about in The Force Awakens is when Kylo says to Rey “Don’t be afraid, I feel it too.” What did he feel? The best I'm able to understand is what they felt was their force dyad igniting or fulfilling.

Ren becomes personally invested in Rey. Not with her cause, or her affiliation with the Resistance, but with her and what he wants from her.

“Kylo chased Finn and Rey outside Starkiller Base to fight them! He threw Rey against a tree!” Well she was going to shoot him..... I would've thrown her against a tree to save myself. His issue in that moment was Finn. Finn was the "traitor" in questioned and his unfinished business. They fought, but really it was a dueling exercise. Kylo Ren wanted to test her skills and her powers. If he wanted her dead there was a convenient edge to push her over, hell he offered to teach her. Rey was the one to go ape and almost kill him.

Again, I'm not implying that they aren't messy - they are. For literary nerds this is why they are a compelling heroine/villain. Ultimately one will greatly affect the other. The tension in between them is why it's great.

Ben Solo, least we forget, is himself an abuse victim. This is canon. While Kylo Ren has learned abusive techniques, they are at war. Applying abusive characteristics to a fictional character in a war setting without any attempt to incorporate the story is bizarre. Why was he able for the first time to stand against his abuser? Rey. He couldn't stand up for himself but he stood up for her. Ultimately, Kylo Ren wanted to 'break the wheel" that's what he claimed. If he was honest, he'd admit he had no clue of how to do that.

Most abusers are charming and irresistible when you first meet them. Ben has NEVER dishonest with Rey about who he is. Rey is very aware of the horrible side of him and even refers to him as a monster. He affirms her accusation that he is a monster.

During their force bonds because of the nature of the bond Rey is in a position to hear him out and try to understand how he became the monster he is today. When she learns that he didn't become this on his own, that Luke, his parents and Snoke contributed to his downfall she had hope in him. It's also important to make the distinctions that when she has a vision of him, it's as Ben. It's like a bipolar personality. When Kylo Ren goes all Darcy marriage proposal - she reject him. She rightfully spurned him when he resorted to cruelty to sway her to his side. Rey turned down Kylo as long as he was the ’bad guy’, and only kissed him as Ben ’the good guy’.

“He only wants to use her for her power.” Oversimplification that Rey is actually guilty of. Kylo Ren is lonely and within Rey he finds not only an equal but the most intense emotional connection he's ever had. The most intense connection she's ever had. Let's not forget they are probably both virgins. Then they are in each other's head. That's intense. When Kylo makes his plea to Rey it's out of not only loneliness but truly wanting her for her.

Also, Kylo doesn’t say he wants them to rule together as “master and apprentice”. He wants Rey to be his empress, his queen which is what Rey means. He’s literally proposing by offering her the entire galaxy. Ultimately Reylos see them as two equally powerful archenemies dedicating themselves to defeating the other but also find themselves strangely drawn to each other in ways they might not want to admit. Then two soul mates on the other side of a conflict.

This is built on the idea that hate itself is a sort of twisted form of love. It is, or, rather hatred is born from things like fear, pain, betrayal and love. Their connection is complicated. One minutes they last out at one another and the next they lean into each other. People can regard this as toxic. Others, like myself, regard this as the gray side of love. Reylo represent the yin yang of the force. The light and the dark craving each other and finding themselves frustrated.

Notice how many hero/villains find themselves telling others that only they are allowed to kill/harm their nemesis, in a subconscious effort to protect their nemesis from others. And they may also get strangely jealous when their nemesis fights other people.

Other people give this argument because they believe the popularity of antiheroes in media is a sign of society’s moral decay. The First Order for all we know is not a fascist society. We have no idea the ideology of the First Order. We know their clothing was inspired by the Nazis.

Red String of Fate: the two connected by the red thread are destined lovers, regardless of place, time, or circumstances. This magical cord may stretch or tangle, but never break

Kylo Ren and Rey BOTH want to be together, believe in the other, but are held back by their individual idea of what means. How is that abusive?! Maybe it's back to thinking little girls won't be able to understand the complexity of Reylo. Huh, well little boys can understand the complexity of Batman and Joker. If little boys are smart enough to realize the difference between fiction and reality and are able to watch a love/hate relationship between a good guy and a bad guy, I’m pretty sure the girls can handle it too. Rey has hope and belief that Kylo Ren can be good, she won't stay by his side while he's doing bad.

What is Reylo? In a way. Iconic

#reylo #star wars #rey star wars #ben solo #rey skywalker #kylo x rey #finnrey #kylo ren #ben solo deserved better #ben solo x rey #rey palpatine #rey #reylo au #star wars fanart #disney star wars

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phoenixyfriend · 10 months

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Why am I having so much trouble finding "Rey trying to avoid her grandfather's attempts to marry her off to an advantageous partner" fic (that isn't for The Ship I Don't Like)

#i searched for fic that had both Rey and Sheev and the word 'arranged'#unfortunately. 66 of the 71 fics are for The Ship I Don't Like #i found one that's Rey/Vader which is a solid maybe but the rest is just characters I don't know #or ships I'm not invested in #I'll that The Ship I Don't Like as the advantageous marriage Sheev is pushing #IF Rey ditches the altar to run away with Finn #shipping #arranged marriage au #arranged marriage #star wars #rey #rey palpatine #rey skywalker #sheev palpatine #finn #finnrey #Phoenix Talks #anyway I'm not naming the disliked ship because you can figure it out by way of Math #and i don't want this post to show up in a ship search and ruin their day

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soranatus · 1 year

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Jedi Grandmasters Finn and Rey By Isaiah Rose

#star wars #finn #rey skywalker #finnrey #the force awakens #au #redesign #irose

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hitchell-mope · 1 year

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Star Wars celebrity au

Prequel generation: 1950’s

Anakin. Born in Hooverville to a former vaudeville actress in the mid 1930’s. Never knew his biological father. But gained a stepfather and stepbrother in Obi Wan when Shmi married Qui Gon Jinn, a wealthy filmmaker. Originally contracted to his stepdads Jedi Studios but got snatched up by mob owned Sith Pictures. They got him addicted to booze and drugs to cope with the gruelling schedule eventually leading him to fatally injuring his pregnant wife in a car crash at the tail end of the 1950’s. Thought dead by everyone, he was kept in a safe house by his new agent, bruised, bloodied and broken, he lived in shame at what he did, all the while trying to muster up the energy to escape

Padme. Successful musical actress. Known for the “spirited young lady” archetype. Contracted to Jedi Studios. Met Anakin at a chemistry reading before he got recruited by Sith Pictures. They carried on their romance and eventually got married in Las Vegas. Sadly though, when she was eight and a half months pregnant, Anakin drove off the road and into an oil tankard. They were taken to different hospitals. Her twins were delivered under emergency caesarian. Unfortunately she succumbed to her injuries and died a week later

Obi Wan. Anakin’s stepbrother. Older by about ten years. Jazz musician at the popular Cantina Club. Close friend of Padme. Commissioned a lot of scores for Jedi Studios. Repeatedly tried and repeatedly failed to get Anakin out of the ironclad Sith Pictures contract. Was there when the twins were delivered. He made sure they were adopted into good families and went off the grid near Orange County where Luke is raised.

Qui Gon. Director who moonlighted as a talent agent. All of Anakin’s early successes were made possible because of him. Adopted Anakin a few weeks after he married Shmi. Unfortunately he died in the last few weeks of World War Two. His plane went down behind enemy lines and his body was never found. The last movie Obi and Anakin made together was dedicated to him.

Original trilogy generation: 1980’s

Luke. Farm boy. Raised in Orange County. Dreamed of being an actor. Had a celebrity crush on Leia when he was growing up which obviously stopped when they met and found out they were twins. Get a spot at a very run down acting school run by a very prickly and obstinate acting coach. Later realises that his talent lean more in stunt work than outright acting. Becomes a talent manager after his hand is cut off by his father in an accident. Died stopping his psychotic nephew

Leia. Down to earth perfectionist actress. Mostly Tudor centred period dramas as Anne of Cleaves. Although she did win many awards for a celebrated turn as Reagan in a gothic horror version of King Lear. Clear cut case of uptight loves wild when she fell for a roughshod insult comic. Indirectly killed by her psychotic estranged son.

Han. Controversial insult comic. Pokes fun at the rich and famous despite also being rich and famous. Needs to learn how to keep his mouth shut. Owes money to a lot of supper clubs. Became a talent scout later in life. Discovered Rey, Finn and Poe. Just like his wife, he was killed by their psychotic estranged son

Lando. Triple threat. Singer. Boxer. Actor. Mostly known for the second rather than the first or third though. Conman on the side during lulls in offers. Best friend of Han and most often his only defender. The only on out of him, Han, Leia and Luke to survive Ben Solo’s massacre.

Sequel generation: 2010’s

Rey. Orphan. Grew up on the streets of Los Angeles. Discovered by Han as she was busking. Her speciality is stand up comedy. But she’s also a superb actor and stuntwoman. Informally adopted by Han and Leia. Stalked repeatedly by their deranged and psychotic son. Enters a relationship with Finn and Poe later on.

Finn. Orphan. Worked his way up. But ended up contracted to New Sith Productions. Broke contract when he saw the studio head murder a moonlighter. Met Poe during his escape. And Rey soon after. Injured by Han and Leia’s psychotic son in the process of protecting Rey. Gets better. Turns out to have a gift for stand up comedy. Enters a relationship with Poe and Rey later on.

Poe. Stunt driver. Whistleblower. Massive charmer. Hell bent on dismantling New Sith Productions. Has an adorable Pomeranian called BB8. Leia was his acting teacher. Takes it incredibly personally when she’s killed by her own son. Starts his own production company. Enters a relationship with Rey and Finn later on.

Ren. Washed up never been Z list bit actor. Awful. Just. Awful. Takes the entirely wrong message from Anakin’s story and tries to be New Sith Productions leading man. Obsessively stalked Rey. The main reason both his parents and his uncle died. Killed by his own stupidity. He remains completely unclaimed and unmourned.

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falllpoutboy · 2 years

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finn: is that your new “take down the leader of the First Order outfit” 👀😮‍💨

rey: yeah it is. 🤗 do you like it? 😏

finn: 😳😳

#i would sell my soul for this interaction and this entire au to be canon #the flirtatious implications… i wouldve DIED #rey showing mutual interest i used to pray for times like this #finnrey #gif creds to rogueones

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greenfleeze · 2 years

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In the house, we support our boyfriends!❤️👏🏽

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unleashthegoats · 2 months

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Episode 7: I'm a Big Deal

Welcome to our first Fixing the Sequels episode! (Fair warning, if you liked the Sequel Trilogy, you might not like this episode!) We bring Finn back into the spotlight and out of the shadows of the sidelines because HE DESERVED BETTER. We briefly discuss how the Sequel Trilogy failed Finn as a character, and then go over all of the things that we, ultimate experts on what the Sequel Trilogy should have been, would have personally preferred to see explored, including Finnrey and Finnpoe, the stormtrooper rebellion that wasn’t, and Prince Finn AUs.

If people have any Sequel Trilogy fic recs for us (especially ones that focus on Finn), please feel free to send them to us!

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#star wars #star wars finn #finn star wars #finnrey #finnpoe #stormpilot #sequel trilogy #star wars sequel trilogy #podcast #star wars podcast #spotify #Spotify #Youtube

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boasamishipper · 4 months

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20 questions for fic writers

tagged by the lovely @doodledrawreblogs - thanks cy!

1. How many works do you have on Ao3? 104 (it will be 105 after my yuletide fic is posted)

2. What's your total Ao3 word count? 1,296,866

3. What fandoms do you write for? i've written fic for legend of korra, milo murphy's law, the dragon prince, star wars, ted lasso, top gun / top gun: maverick, 9-1-1 lone star, what we do in the shadows (tv), a league of their own (tv), mission: impossible, our flag means death, perry mason hbo, and night court.

4. What are your top five fics by kudos?

when i see your face (top gun, icemav, 1.4k) - 5018 kudos

Moving In Slow Motion (top gun, icemav, 7.5k) - 3044 kudos

Make A Wrong One Right (top gun, icemav, 18.8k) - 2313 kudos

baby, baby, i'd get down on my knees for you (top gun, icemav, 18k, cowritten with @academicgangster) - 2290 kudos

Word on the Street (top gun, icemav, outsider pov, 3.8k) - 1991 kudos

5. Do you respond to comments? yes! if you are kind enough to read one of my fics and leave a comment, i always do my best to reply, even if it's just a string of heart emojis.

6. What is the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending? probably Like Attracts Like - it's a companion piece to my legend of korra mash au sometimes you hear the bullet, and ends with zhu li (the radar of the story) getting word of varrick's plane going down a la henry blake in abyssinia, henry. truthfully, i'm not a big writer of angsty endings. angsty beginnings and middles, definitely, but i prefer all my fics to have a happy ending.

7. What’s the fic you wrote with the happiest ending? see basically all of my fics have happy endings, but i think the happiest ending i've written goes to the end of I Know I'm Home, my robisanya au where sam matched with dani on bantr and not rebecca. in the final chapter, all the loose ends get tied up: richmond wins the premier league, roy and keeley get married, and sam and dani have the 'i'm going to marry you someday' talk. nothing but sweetness all around.

8. Do you get hate on fics? the only hate i've ever gotten on a fic was for one of my star wars sequel trilogy rewrites, and that was from some reylos who didn't like the anti-reylo things i was saying on my star wars sideblog, so... nah.

9. Do you write smut? If so, what kind? i do and i have definitely gotten better at it over the years (though i still have a Long way to go lmao). i've only published m/m, but i've written some f/m smut (as you will see when i publish my degas/paris fic next year 😏)

10. Do you write crossovers? What’s the craziest one you’ve written? indeed i do. craziest (or at least most ambitious) has gotta be there's a raging fire in my heart tonight, my top gun/mcu crossover. (craziest crossover i've ever come up with is the night court / perry mason hbo crossover that @saltyfilmmajor and @bornforastorm have been enabling me to write)

11. Have you ever had a fic stolen? no thankfully

12. Have you ever had a fic translated? yes! when i see your face has been translated into korean and chinese, Lead Me On (To The Other Side) has been translated into korean, and (I Love You) A Bushel and A Pallet and Moving In Slow Motion have both been translated into chinese.

13. Have you ever co-written a fic before? yes, i wrote baby, baby, i'd get down on my knees for you with @academicgangster and wrote Austin Alone with @lilalbatross

14. What’s your all time favorite ship? i'm picking three for how they have influenced me and my writing: boasami, finnrey, and icemav.

15. What’s a WIP you want to finish but doubt you ever will? there are So Many of these....my google drive is essentially a graveyard of unfinished wips

16. What are your writing strengths? dialogue for sure. i've also been told my characterization is great and i have good comedic timing.

17. What are your writing weaknesses? action scenes and smut

18. Thoughts on writing dialogue in another language in fic? i've done this before - usually i run it through google translate and then check other translation sites to be sure it's as accurate as possible. i've included the to-english translations in some fics (namely my top gun ones where i've written ice speaking russian) but mostly leave out the to-english translations these days. usually when my characters speak a different language you can pick up what they're saying from context.

19. First fandom you wrote for? the first fandom i wrote for was (i think) icarly, but the first fandom i published fic for was legend of korra.

20. Favorite fic you’ve written? varies depending on the mood i'm in (and also i have written a Lot of fic so it is difficult to choose lmao). right now i'd say Word on the Street - i'm still really proud of how that one came together.

tagging @icemankazansky @lookforanewangle @lilalbatross @hacash @saltyfilmmajor @bornforastorm @maverickcalf @academicgangster and anyone else who wants to do this :)

#thanks for tagging me!#my fics #i have written. So Much Fic #god help me

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bisexyjedi · 7 months

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Finnrey // Autumn AU

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chidichidibumbum · 2 years

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Us Against The World

Summary:

The witch trials were an ongoing attack on woman between the 15th to around the 18th century. Whether the accusations were true or false are difficult to say. Although, some things cannot be explained.

In the midst of all the choas, two young teens fall for each other. Finding love in a world that knows only hate.

Rating: Explicit

Archive Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence Major Character Death Rape/Non-ConUnderage

Category: F/M

Fandom: Star Wars Sequel Trilogy

Relationship: Finn/Rey (Star Wars)

Characters: Rey (Star Wars) Finn (Star Wars)

Language: English

Series: Previous Work Part 3 of the The Love That Never Died series

Stats: Published: 2022-06-23

Updated: 2022-06-23

Words: 57914

Chapters: 1/?

#finnrey #rey x finn #finn/rey #fanfic #finn #rey #star wars #finnrey au #reyfinn #romance #tragedy #vampires #witchcraft

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madmythandy · 1 year

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steddie/stormpilot crossover au :) (bonus platonic soulmate stobin/finnrey and bb-8/dustin)

eddie munson as the sexy sweaty great hair favorite color is orange best pilot in the galaxy knows his way around an engine (wink) poe dameron

steve as newly broken out of brainwashing/awakening to the force (from the title!!!!) ex-jock(lol) loser with a heart of gold BISEXUAL finn :)

“keep it. it suits you.” that one writes itself :)

steve and robin running around the freighter to escape the demogorgan(rathtar):

robin: what do they look like? (they nearly run into one)

steve: (points) they look like that.

steve and dustin whispering while robin does the actual work on the ship to keep them from dying. steve and robin now can literally speak telepathically bc they both have the force.

eddie trusting dustin more than anything in the whole galaxy ❤️

anyway happy star wars day

#i could go on #steddie #stobin #platonic stobin

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piglet26 · 5 months

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Star Wars: The Force Awakens Rewatch Part 2

Enter Han Solo! My God is Harrison Ford charismatic. He must have been like hitting the goldmine casting wise. Chewie/Chewy was also a brilliant addition. George's genius has always been in world building and finding science fiction creative equivalents.

Finn/Rey/Chewy/Han Solo have good chemistry.

The biggest criticism the sequels trilogy has received is in its handling of the OG3. That being said Han Solo pretty much is handled the best and brightest.

Okay it's Chewie not Chewy, got it.

Snoke - I don't care about. Sorry. Best thing about it is acknowledging that Kylo Ren awakened Rey in the force.

It's a great scene revealing that Kylo Ren is Han Solo's kid. I didn't see this in theatre - matter of fact I didn't see this movie until it was on Disney+ did people know about Kylo Ren parentage beforehand?

Why did Han take two fugitives with the droid into Maz's place knowing everyone would be looking for them? Or right to progress the film. Funny how no one spared any criticism for that..... but Rey bypassing a compressor pissed people off.

It's adorable Han developed a bit of a soft spot for Rey already. Also this is the best gif I could find of this moment.

Kylo Ren and Darth Vader Mask is a great scene. Establishing his conflicted nature whereas Anakin was already six sheets of crazy to the wind by the time he went dark. Kylo feels light and love in his heart.

Maz is a great character - two people already snitched to both the first order and resistance.

Maz "If you live long enough you see the same eyes in different people." Great line!

Finn/Rey scene where he finally confesses he's not in the resistance is a great scene that establishes their dynamic perfectly. His motivation for leaving the storm troopers, why he wants to run and his connection to Rey. Rey is the first person he meets as just himself and probably his first true friend. Furthermore, FinnRey feel responsible for each other.

The lightsaber visions that Rey has is confusing and exposition honestly but very clearly telling her that her future is Kylo Ren and her past doesn't really matter anymore.

If I was Rey I'd bathe in that lake. At least take a swim for fun. She's probably never had that much water to just have fun with. Splish Splash I was taking a bath.

How in the hell is the First Order able to build a weapon that could destroy multiple planets without anyone noticing?! I don't like this about the movie - this insistence of the rebellion downtrodden and the underdog. YOU WON THE WAR!

Kylo Ren isn't actively apart of destroying planets - just villages.

Rey watching Kylo Ren ship appear at Maz's watering hole - Me knowing it carries her actual soul mate.

Kylo Ren appearing looking for this droid/mysterious girl knowing he's about to meet his new obsession.

Finn being force sensitive/future Jedi is a plot line shamefully just dropped. I mean dropped and not given a shit about the future.

#reylo au #ben solo #sequel trilogy #the force awakens #star wars #finnrey

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