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fantastic-nonsense · 4 months
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reylos crying on twitter because Adam Driver explicitly confirmed that Bendemption was never originally in the plans for Kylo....this is justice for the last 8 years, actually
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assiraphales · 1 year
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not to dredge up old discourse but its still legitimately such a tragedy that rey, one of the only main female protagonists in star wars, had so much potential and her story was reduced thru fandom & writing choices to a toxic relationship with a genocidal whiny ass man. she deserved so much more as a character, and could have been so much more 
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fanfic-lover-girl · 2 months
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Demonization of the Enemies to Lovers Trope
I find it very disingenuous when Zutara antis compare or lump Zutara with problematic ships like Reylo and Dramione. Anyone who makes a claim like this should have not any opinions about ATLA respected. Because they obviously did not watch the show.
There are major differences that set Zutara apart from Reylo and Dramione.
Zutara vs Dramione - Friendship
Zuko and Katara reconciled and became very close friends in season 3. Draco and Hermione disliked each other in canon and the best of their relationship was civility. Dramione could have served the same narrative function as Zutara by representing union after war but Dramione lacked the canon building blocks that Zutara had.
Zutara vs Reylo - Redemption
Zuko has a powerful redemption arc. But even when Zuko was an antagonist, he was never truly evil. And Zuko's actions towards Katara (eg tying her to a tree) were not completely monstrous. Zuko and Katara never crossed any boundaries while enemies. When Katara starts showing compassion to Zuko, it is in season 2 when Zuko is no longer an active threat (eg. offering to heal Iroh and their emotional moment in the catacombs). Compare this to Reylo where there are all these romantic undertones while Reylo and Kylo are still enemies. Kylo also has a worse record than Zuko: murdering his dad, oppressing countless people, killing civilians, and maiming people. And Rey for some reason, before Kylo does anything to deserve it, begins to feel sorry for him. Unlike Zuko, we don't see Kylo truly atone for what he did to Rey. Not to mention the abusive elements in their relationship such as Kylo calling Rey worthless.
The point is that people need to stop demonizing enemies to lovers ships. And stop lumping healthy ships like Zutara with more toxic ships like Dramione and Reylo. It's not a fair comparison.
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willow-lark · 11 months
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there is nothing cool or sexy about kylo ren he literally fucking sucks. like yeah anakin was also a homicidal facist but the difference is anakin was camp. he was hot while doing it. he had the dramatic flair. he’s badass. he’s intimidating. he’s the most iconic movie villain of all time. kyle is literally just an emo neo nazi. there is zilch that is interesting about his character. sorry for speaking the truth
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mfshipbracket · 1 year
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voting for reylo almost exclusively because i want someone's ship, someone's dearly beloved treasured ship, to be the one to lose to reylo
new threat for the arsenal: "i hope your otp loses to reylo"
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watchingtheearthrise · 8 months
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It’s 2023. Let’s drop the idea that “you’re nothing but not to me” is romantic and instead recognize it as what it actually is: gaslighty, harmful, isolating and just plain evil.
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yourhighness6 · 1 month
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I'm such a hypocrite because I'll see a toxic m/f ship and be like "bleh! ew! get it away from me! ew!" but I'll see a toxic f/f or m/m ship and I'll be like "oooh tell me more"
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punkeropercyjackson · 2 months
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At this point 'The hero always has to get the girl' is slang for 'Weh weh my female fave choose the protagonist because they're best friends instead of my edgy boi who EARNED her' and i refuse to let it slide in 2024.C'mon be serious,if you want the edgy boi to get the girl but it actually being well-written read Bleach and watch Adventure Time like the rest of us
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stylesmilky · 10 months
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What the fuck reylos. Our Miguel is right here:
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revenge-of-the-shit · 9 months
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assiraphales · 1 year
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“how can u criticize the age gap between rey and kylo when han & leia’s is the exact same” bc I hate kylo ren <3 hope that helps <3
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stonegoldsxcrxt · 4 months
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LMFAOOOOOOO
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the-pretty-corpse · 5 months
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Finnrey for the winnrey!!
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starlightandsunshine · 5 months
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Lynchworthy Star Wars take no 2 of the day:
I don’t like the sequel trilogy personally but you know what? Kylo Ren’s storyline in tlj was good actually. Trying to use it to build a redemption arc cheapened both it and the characters involved
Like this guy is trying to be a bad guy right? He’s actively making all the wrong choices and deliberately plummeting down to make it worse for himself. And along comes this person who hates doesn’t like him. And they’re psychically connected by the make up of the universe
And at the start it’s really annoying that she’s connected to him. but then she tries to reach out a hand to him. She tries to help him climb up. And while she’s reaching down to pull him out he’s reaching up to try and pull her down. She’s trying so hard to help him get better and he decides that he wants power over love, greed over compassion.
He, like his grandfather before him, wants to try to have everything. And well that never works out, this is Star Wars. but he’s in the story so he doesn’t know that.
And the thing is this girl thinks it’s working, and like her teacher before her she ignores the advice of her mentor bc she thinks she knows better. And she’s wrong.
She gets there and he kills his master for power and asks her to join him. And she can’t. This isn’t what she wanted, she wanted to help him.
Where his grandfather chose power for love and let it corrupt him beyond recognition bc he wanted to have it all and then turned on his wife when she tried to stop him, Kylo Ren chooses power over love over and over and over again. He gets chance after chance and he always, deliberately, willingly chooses wrong.
And this makes Rey as a character stronger in turn. This teaches her that everyone makes a choice whether for good or for ill and that you cannot save someone who doesn’t want to be saved and wants to bring you down to them instead. but you might still die trying. Kylo Ren isn’t like Finn, he isn’t someone stuck in a bad situation with no choices that wants to do good. He wants power and he’ll do whatever he thinks he has to to get it. And now he wants her to be a part of that too.
And he fails at it. The more power he grabs for the more darkness he grasps, the more things slip through his fingers and leave him trembling in the dust of all that he’s wrought. He’s not sympathetic, he’s greedy and he’s trying to trick Rey into thinking his story is a tragedy of misunderstandings when it’s actually a wilful tragedy of choice. And that makes him a good character. Not a moral one. Not even necessarily a likeable one (ymmv). But an interesting one that has a lot to contribute to the story and the themes within.
Star Wars is about choices. Bad choices are choices too.
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mfshipbracket · 1 year
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