#sw fanwank

[fantastic-nonsense]

reylos crying on twitter because Adam Driver explicitly confirmed that Bendemption was never originally in the plans for Kylo....this is justice for the last 8 years, actually

#sorry to my followers but I am going to be extremely petty about this for the next 24 hours #because I feel VINDICATION in this chili's tonight #sw fanwank #anti reylo

[anghraine]

Sometimes I think about looking for SW content and then the first thing I see is "Padmé isn't really Leia's mother because of Breha" which is just ?????? in terms of the Lucas films.

Like, Padmé did nothing that would lead Leia to reject her. Dying is not a renunciation of her motherhood. When Leia is asked by Luke (who invariably identifies their birth parents as his parents) about her "real mother," Leia doesn't correct him but simply responds with a description of Padmé that, contextually, could only come from impressions via the Force that she mistakes as vague memories. Luke does not share these impressions; there is a special tie between Leia and Padmé. There's nothing wrong or improbable about Leia having feelings about that.

Breha is also Leia's mother, but this does not require Leia to reject Padmé nor make it probable for her to do so. And the conversation about Padmé in ROTJ just does not suggest a rejection from Leia at all.

I suspect that Padmé is basically being packaged in with Anakin, whom Leia has very good reasons to reject. But Padmé is not Anakin. Leia does not have to relate to them in the same ways and it doesn't seem at all likely from ROTJ that she does.

#i don't think padmé and leia are super alike (nor that luke and padmé are) #but the idea that dying young in tragic circumstances erases padmé's motherhood is so weird #there is /nothing/ in the films to suggest this #and particularly not wrt leia #anghraine babbles #anghraine rants #sw fanwank #star wars #padmé amidala #leia organa

[stan-morley]

The struggle is WAY TOO REAL.

#morley #morley sw #fanwank #vaguepost #fangasm #lowkey bitter about the way savage oppress gets to be in the book of obiwan but morley is STILL DEAD.

[fantasylandandocean]

About Anakin

This is going to be short but I want to say that Anakin Skywalker may be many problematic things but a narcissist who only loves those around him as an extention of himself he is not.

Please don’t tear other characters down in order to build Ben Solo up!

#sw fanwank #fandom criticism #I heard Anakin being characterised like th #that #from a podcast #i respect #i stopped listening #halfway through #sorry but #as much as I love Ben Solo #anakin will always be my fave #shitpost #this is NOT an ant* post

[sonicenvy]

this just in in the immortal words of @fantastic-nonsense :

kyle ron is just shitty discount jacen solo

#text #star wars #tlj #jacen solo #im gonna make this post too #shout it from the rooftops #sw fanwank #st

[kaiayame]

Just got back from watching TLJ, and in true me fashion info on everyone's blogs and find out what they thought about it. I haven't been a star wars fan for long, only since TFA came out, so I'm not super familiar with all the characters - can you explain what it was about Luke's characterisation that you felt was wrong/inconsistent with the original trilogy? Was he not as forgiving as he should be? Is he just too grumpy? Would love to know your thoughts! :)

Luke literally fights for the chance of Darth Vadar’s redemption from the dark side in the original trilogy. 

Darth. freaking. VADAR.

Luke Skywalker saw good in the most iconic bad guy in the entire star wars universe. Because that’s who Luke Skywalker IS. He believes that there’s always hope. That being a part of the dark side is a choice, but so is the light.

So in TLJ when he sees some sort of “scary powerful darkness” in young Ben Solo, his pupil, his nephew, and proceeds to pull out his lightsaber with an intent to murder him in his sleep??

Hell no. Absolutely fucking not. Never. 

#tlj #tlj spoilers #spoilers #never ever ever ever ever ever ever #Anonymous #sw fanwank

[mirime-kisarrastine]

Not my cup of hot chocolate (which is an exotic drink Lando recommended to Luke😛)

The Last Jedi was all over the place. The storylines were incoherent and the cuts were jarring and I’m not even touching the timeline issues.

There were some good moments but they were outweighed by the bad ones and the impression I got was that I was watching two different movies edited into one. Badly edited at that.

And that’s before we touch the criminal waste and/or underuse of certain characters, badly adapted Legends-based storylines (Jacen Solo and Kyp Durron are better than Kylo Ren any day of the week), sexist and racist “humour”, illogical actions for the sake of drama etc.

Episode IX has a hell of a battle ahead to redeem the franchise. Killing off Kylo would be a good start, though. Irredeemable asshole.

#tlj spoilers #anti tlj #anti kylo ren #star wars #sw fanwank #critical

[dying-suffering-french-stalkers]

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#i was already [ben affleck smoking meme] about friday's mando ep (which i haven't seen) #bc of r*sario's tr@nsphobia #but apparently people are saying it was just a straight-up poor ep anyway and that they couldn't even get @hsoka's visual design right #also did i hear correctly that they finally gave b@by y0da a name?? lmao bit late for that guys #and yet. and YET. the warped serotonin machine in my brain who was mad into sw for years is going “but watch anyway??” #🅱️lease. either fix literally everything (not possible) or let me be free #the fool jingled miserably across the floor #personal #fanwank for ts

[emperorren]

TLJ had like 6-7 super brief Reylo scenes and they were amazing. Of course an action movie can’t live up to fic, but Reylo scenes tend to be so compelling and full of chemistry that they suck all the attention towards them. Keep in mind, of all the “backlash” to TLJ that Disney’s trying so hard to get away from (lol), Reylo wasn’t a part of it. The Reylo complaints were just in anti circles, yet even the Fanbros were like “This part was the best/most compelling part”

I know. TLJ backlash or not, everyone with a braincell is aware that Reylo is one of the best things that came out of this trilogy. Even those who aren’t shippers or super fans of it. You gotta recognize it’s one of the few elements that have some spark and aren’t a flat ripoff of the same old formulas. And that it drives the plot and keeps the narrative together in ways that no other storytelling element does.

And I have no doubt that any amount of Reylo we’re getting in TROS will be the best part of the movie, and the most critically praised too. 

How do I know? Because Adam fucking Driver will be in the Reylo scenes. Trio stuff and fanbro-friendly shenanigans don’t have an Adam.

#tros spec #fanwank #reylo #tlj discourse #sw negativity #anon #asks

[frumfrumfroo]

What’s your take on Rey stabbing Ben? I try to see it as her giving in temporarily to the Dark/her anger

I don’t have one because this movie’s depiction of Rey cannot support analysis and doesn’t deserve the charity of an attempt.

#it's a non-story and I will not pretend otherwise #she does because they wanted her to and for no other reason #it doesn't make sense it's not going to make sense #I'm not doing it the favour of fanwanking it #as far as I'm concerned Rey appeared in one scene after tlj #I'm sure you know which one #and in the rest of it she's not even a character #she's a loose collection of concepts or a cardboard stand-in for a theoretical viewer #who is nostalgic for the shallow trappings of SW only and wants to self-insert into Luke in ANH #but never grow or change or be challenged #or learn the lesson of Luke's arc about what heroism is #someone who saw the OT once when they were five #the only reason the one scene feels real is because it has nothing to do with the rest of the film and comes from the actors #and Daisy just reverted to playing TLJ Rey because that character had an inner life #and it made actual sense of the context

[him-e]

I just wanted to say thank you for the positivity in the past two years. There were a lot of red flags wrt TROS, the buns, the mask etc. but I still appreciate your positivity and your attempts to make of it all via meta. It was all the most shallow option in the end, but at least we didn't spend two years dreading everything and being glum, and I think optimistic bloggers are to credit. Sure, TROS slapped us in the face, but I'll cherish the time I spent in the fandom before that. Thank you

Thank you, I’m glad we’re not regretting having been positive in the first place. I’ve made this mistake many times before, and it seems I never learn: giving mainstream fiction writers too much credit.

Perhaps I don’t want to learn, because learning THAT means not being able to enjoy fiction. I can’t engage with a story if I can’t trust the writers to be competent and passionate about it. It’s the barest requirement for me to do spec and meta, let alone become emotionally attached. Not engaging with fiction but merely consuming it passively seems like a nightmare to me.

I never planned ahead to get involved with Reylo or the sequel trilogy in general—I saw something of interest and ran with it, as I always do, because I can’t afford turning down something that ignites my imagination and makes me want to immerse myself completely in it. I welcome every scrap of passion and creative spark I can find in my life, and I treasure it until the end. Perhaps more than I should, but that’s how I am. I like the feeling of being consumed.

So all things considered I regret nothing, not even staying positive. It’s been 4 wild years, and it was completely worth it, and there’s still a lot of spark we can use from what we created and will continue creating in spite of canon. I said that bad writing was always a possibility behind the corner, but the sequel trilogy had a good track record with that for the first two movies, so I had no reason to just assume “bad writing” as the likeliest option. The visual red flags could be chalked up to JJ wanting to reprise his imagery for the characters, and I didn’t find it particularly worrying. I only started feeling anxious when the JPX leaks came out—I had this gut feeling that they could be true, but I let myself silence it. Not because I wanted to hope blindly, but because I couldn’t reconcile such a shapeless, bullet-point mess with the solid three-act, character-driven story that TFA was, and I couldn’t see why the standards of JJ’s writing would sink that low.

I didn’t, of course, realize that DLF had in fact every intention to retcon TLJ completely. But there was no way I could know that: they LIED to us about it through and through.

I feel like a clown, but only a little. We weren’t wrong—we were given false information and false advertising, by a franchise that didn’t fulfill the promise created in the first and second movie of the trilogy.

#fanwank #fandom #anti tros #sw negativity #reylo positivity #anon #asks #sw asks #sw for ts #reylo for ts

[fantastic-nonsense]

the deliberate erasure of Padme Amidala and Satine Kryze from every piece of Star Wars media where it would be narratively and thematically relevant to mention them is absolutely insane

because how did we get to a place where we can have two separate shows that collectively co-star three of Padme's best friends and her child and only get one (1) oblique mention? How did we get two whole shows focused on Mandalorians and post-Imperial Mandalore, one of which co-stars Satine's sister, and not mention the Last Free Ruler of Mandalore? How did we get a show focused on Obi-Wan Kenobi and not mention one of his best friends or the love of his life? How did we get a show focused entirely on politics and spying and the true birth of the Rebellion and not mention the fact that Padme helped build that? How did we visit Sundari and not mention Satine? How did we get an episode where Ahsoka literally attends Padme's funeral and never once says her name?

The fact that Satine is essentially confined to The Clone Wars despite her sister being the current co-protagonist of Disney's flagship Star Wars show while Padme has been basically erased from every single piece of Star Wars media that isn't the Darth Vader comics is baffling. It would be like Leia being completely non-existent and never mentioned in the sequel trilogy despite it co-starring her son, brother, and husband. It makes no sense, it's clearly deliberate, and it's extremely irritating.

#star wars #sw fanwank #sw meta #padme amidala #bo-katan kryze #satine kryze #ahsoka tano #obi-wan kenobi #bail organa #mon mothma #andor #kenobi 2022 #tales of the jedi #the mandalorian

[anghraine]

I've always been sympathetic to Luke, but the prequels' Skywalker backstory definitely makes me more so.

I've heard people dismiss him for playing with an old toy while complaining about being made to stay on a desert hellworld dominated by slave-owning gangsters, since Leia's a hardened revolutionary at the same time.

I think Luke's dislike of Tatooine is actually entirely legitimate based on the OT alone, given what he likely knows, but then it turns out that the slave-owning gangsters owned Luke's father and grandmother.

Luke doesn't know anything about Padmé and he doesn't have Leia's visions of her, so he has no sense of a legacy from lush Naboo or the apparently prosperous Naberries. His world is Tatooine and the legacy he's intensely conscious of is Anakin's, and Owen and Beru's. And I mean, Owen is Luke's uncle because Owen's father bought Luke's grandmother and freed her to marry her. She was later captured from the farm and tortured to death; Luke would see her memorial on a regular basis as he helps extract moisture on the farm.

He has every right to complain about being stuck on Tatooine—and always did IMO, but after the prequels? Whew.

#anghraine babbles #sometimes i wonder how old luke was when he found out that owen's father bought anakin's mother #like. owen visibly withholding information may seem less suspicious to luke not just because of luke's personality #but because them visibly withholding information has more often been about 'this is a really hard conversation to navigate' than 'lies' #luke skywalker #star wars #sw fanwank #shmi skywalker #i always crave more luke and shmi content tbh #not official content. the good fandom stuff.

[oathkeeper-of-tarth]

A whole lot of the criticism of that one TLJ scene I keep seeing reads mostly like

Luke: The Force is strong in my family. My father has it. I have it.

Highly unpleasant nerdbro fanboys: YESSS! THAT SKYWALKER BLOODLINE!

Luke: [looking directly at Leia] My sister has it.

Highly unpleasant nerdbro fanboys: UM ACTUALLY

#'YOU HAVE THAT POWER TOO. IN TIME YOU'LL LEARN TO USE IT AS I HAVE.' i can't read suddenly i don't know #salty? me? NEVER #love how the requirements of 'BUT FORMAL TRAINING!' appear and disappear suspiciously in people's arguments #(and i'm not even touching on the EU here or the new novels!) #i have no issue whatsoever with the people saying they didn't like the execution or thought it looked silly or cheesy or whatever #(i didn't and i loved it especially with the music but obviously ymmv) #(and if cheese isn't a huge part of SW.... what is) #but the people highly aggressively attacking the very IDEA of leia being potentially able to do it? #nah son #fanwank #stop excluding leia stop denying her power STOP #the last jedi spoilers #star wars spoilers #tlj spoilers #star wars #leia organa #also mhm sure tell me more about how rey is a suspension of disbelief breaking mary sue #i'm all ears #(i'm not. this is sarcasm. please don't talk to me.) #godawful reddit threads will be my supervillain origin #though i will admit i had a hearty chuckle at one particular pissed manbaby response to 'yoda wanted to train leia and not luke originally'

[brilliantfantasticgeronimo]

reylo is just the kovu/kiara of the new generation

#just the #facts #sw #tlk #fanwank

[save-ben-swolo]

Since I don’t really get asks much anymore and I actually DO have thoughts RE: this new ST gossip Daisy just dropped, here’s my unsolicited hot take of why it’s EXTRA hilariously (?) awful:

J.J’s OWN idea in the beginning was for Rey to maybe be a Kenobi (not terrible if done well *soft golf clap*).

Since there was no concrete plan (because what a smart way to continue a cherished and highly scrutinized IP) Rian came in and said, “Naw that would be unnecessary and convoluted fanwank. We need to move SW into the future and rely less on the past while still honoring it. Rey isn’t related to anyone important. This will better challenge her character because (meaningful fucking writing)”

THEN when they DRAGGED J.J back to work on TROS he handpicked Terrio to help (LOL) and abandoned many of his OWN IDEAS (that weren’t totally awful) because he didn’t give a shit anymore and didn’t want to come back in the first place. Terrio came in as an excited OT/EU fan with IDEAS and “Star Wars bibles”. Thus, Rey Palpatine was born and NO ONE said “Wait.. this is actually REALLY awful. Can we not?” because “fuck it” we NEED to get this out by Christmas, right? (Although, my tinfoil hat theory is that the MASSIVE leaks were someone’s cry for help from the inside of that shit show.)

#this is all more or less speculation on my part based on everything I’ve seen #thank you for coming to my unsolicited hot take #rey nobody #will ALWAYS reign supreme #TROS salt