#anti ROP Sauron

[nateofgreat]

Sauron the Deceiver! ... According to Amazon

Sauron/Halbrand: "Uh, hey there folks. My name is Halbrand which means "hidden nobility." This is kind of awkward since I was trying to retire before Galadriel dragged me to Eregion, but how about I help you forge those rings? Have you tried using alloys?"

*Gets caught*

Sauron: *Walks to Mordor, puts on a wig, then walks back.*

Sauron/Annatar: "Top of the morning, my names Annatar the Giver of Gifts. This is a little awkward given you've already forged the three rings, but how about we make even more of them?"

#anti rop #anti rings of power #rings of power season 2 #rings of power #anti rop Sauron #anti amazon lotr

[wanderingwolfwitcher]

#galadriel #sauron #saurondriel #rings of power #sauron x galadriel #galadriel x sauron #arwen undomiel #halbrand #aragorn #galadriel x halbrand #halbrand x galadriel #haladriel #halatariel #anti rop #anti rings of power #lol

[anipologist]

Ok, I'm watching Rings of Power (in small doses)...first impressions below.

(Part 1)

Valinor is not Heaven anymore than Galadriel or Luthien are the Virgin Mary...does no one understand what subcreation is?

Bullying in Valinor...unlikely as portrayed. The elves are mostly unfallen at this point and most of the issues are between the adults and after Morgoth starts roaming freely spreading lies. Galadriel is also from a high position in society (a princess) she is hardly an outsider.

Noldor elves absolutely delighted in color and jewelry why is everyone wearing sheets? In fact the Noldor in general just loved making stuff...

To everyone that thinks that the mean elf children are her cousins, Artanis is the youngest child of the youngest son of Finwe...even Amrod and Amras are probably a fair bit older than her.

FINROD"S HAIR! I know it's been said before but wow...ugh. Suspension of disbelief shatters every time it shows up...

Also elves died in Middle Earth before they all moved to the undying lands...so yeah they definitely knew what death was. In fact Artanis and Finderato's uncle was among those presumed lost or dead. (He wasn't, but that's a whole story itself)

And yes, I am using Artanis/Nerwen and Findarato/Artafinde/Ingoldo because nobody is speaking Sindarin in Valinor...and Galadriel hasn't met Celeborn yet (and seems unlikely to at this point) so he hasn't given her the name Galadriel.

moving on....

Wow....that is the most heavily redacted account of the Flight of the Noldor ever...

Where do I start?

Artanis spoke out against Feanor and he personally led his people in an attack on her mother's people...on her grandparents! This is something deeply important to her...in some accounts Tolkien actually has her fighting her cousins and uncle in Alqualondë in defense of the Teleri.

This also makes it look like Finrod is swearing Feanor's oath!...there is one image that Tolkien gives of an oath sworn at this time alongside drawn swords and Finrod is another specifically mentioned by name as having opposed it!

(On a side note given that Finrod is later betrayed because of that oath this is rather sick...almost like releasing a bad Tolkien adaption on the anniversary of his death...)

Once again...Finrod and Galadriel along with Fingolfin and many others spent years crossing the Helcaraxë to get to Middle Earth, THEY DID NOT SAIL THERE.

So far the dialogue is consistently atrocious. The landscapes are pretty but feel cgi and the costumes are uninspired...this was the perfect opportunity to go full panoply of ancient kings...and they didn't. I am not seeing "most expensive tv show in history" anywhere.

NB: I fully intend to criticize blatant betrayals of what Tolkien actually wrote. Tolkien has been a huge part of my life and his writing and the world he created has been a light in many dark places. The characters he wrote have made me want to be a better person and seeing them diminished and twisted is just awful.

So yes, I take it somewhat personally when they are maligned and given that the Silm is my favorite of all Tolkien's writing so this hits very close to home.

That being said, I don't blame people for wanting to see Middle Earth again. I desperately wanted this to be good. And I don't blame the actors who were handed once in a lifetime roles and were clearly very let down by the production itself.

SO why do I feel the need to complain? Well, why do people complain about any bad adaption? Nobody thinks people are wrong to criticize the Percy Jackson movies or that Avatar: The Last Airbender movie that no one talks about about....

So no I am not going to attack people who watch it but I am going to plant my flag here and make my stand. Because this is something that means a great deal to me and I hate seeing to ruined.

#rings of power #amazon lord of the rings #rings of power critical #jrr tolkien #tolkien #tolkien elves #the silmarillion #silmarillion #galadriel #finrod felagund #lotr #lord of the rings #noldor #silm #the second age #sauron #anti rings of power #critique of rings of power #anti rop #rop critical #my critiques #artanis #nerwen #ingoldo #rop spoilers #rings of power spoilers #one ring to commercialize them all

[silvergifting]

you can all say what you want about shadow of mordor and shadow of war, but at least they had the courage to make annatar and celebrimbor's character designs appealing, unlike the cowards at am*zon. like, yeah, give celebrimbor a fancy little circlet and lovely hair jewelry!! give annatar the sculpted cheekbones and long, flowing locks that are befitting of a shampoo commercial...

don't make them old white men who wouldn't look out of place in every generic 'historical' film of the last decade; give them some style! make them recognizable and interesting to look at! and also make celebrimbor a twink, please and thank you!

#we'll ignore shelob for now #the games are not great for lore but they're kind of. fun. #and it's funny to watch talion get the Inside Info on tyelpe and annatar's relationship drama. like. my man is suffering #life.txt #lotr #tolkien #shadow of mordor #shadow of war #anti rop #celebrimbor #annatar #sauron #anyways #only real mutuals remember the shitposting from like 6 years ago about celebrimbor's voice lololololol

[heirofdragons]

Dear TRoP fandom, please keep your soggy heterosexual “Sauron” out of the Sauron tag.

Sincerely,

me (and a huge chunk of the silm fandom)

#as a bisexual #yes i am in fact aware that bisexuality exists #that guy still stinks of heterosexuality #the silm fandom #sauron #mairon #the silmarillion #angbang #anti rings of power #anti rop

[future-classics-student]

how can a being who is millions of years old choose to reincarnate as a milquetoast cishet white dude with a bad haircut is beyond me

#sauron #mairon #halbrand #rings of power #angbang #lotr #lord of the rings #anti rop #silvergift #tolkien #silmarillion

[goldcleaver]

jesus I thought they decided to skip annatar entirely considering they forged the rings in season one but noooo they’re apparently still doing it 😭

#WHAT IS THE POINT #WHAT IS HE DOING THERE #anger aside seriously what is the point of the annatar arc if it’s not about the rings #if this is another sauron galadriel thing again actually just kill me #it would be less of an offence #lotronprime #rings of power #anti rings of power #anti rop

[beyond-far-horizons]

What the literal HELL happened in Rings of Power?!

I’ve just seen spoilers and I....

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Sauron is masquerading as some cheap Northern Aragon wannabe and he has some Dark Proposal with Galadriel??!!! I literally cannot take this guy seriously, I could see him down in my local pub circa 1999. Not to diss his acting but he’s nothing on Annatar and all Sauron could be.,

Tell me where is Celeborn? For I much desire to have him back in the timeline...

Okay I admit in a completely different story/scenario, I’m almost always down for enemies to lovers/villain shipping/dark proposal but really? Galadriel and Sauron? I....And to riff on the iconic scene from Fellowship...It’s meant to be about her temptation by power - by wanting to rule a realm of her own away from the Valar (valid to be honest, esp after their f*ckups in the Silmarillion) not about hooking up with the second most evil being in Ea, esp when she is already married! 

I know, I know people just want to enjoy this and I want to say fair play and you do you, but this is such an awful mangling of the lore and characters, it isn’t even worthy of Morgoth (although props where it’s due for them mentioning Sauron feeling the light of the One again - almost had me, not gonna lie), and it’s the potential that hurts all the more. The Second Age and the ability to shed some light on the literal Lord of the Rings - the OG Dark Lord and one of the most mysterious figures in popular fiction - is such a missed opportunity. 

The Second Age is Sauron’s time where you see him ‘in person’ in Eregion and Numenor and the opportunities to reveal facets of his character are so enticing. His relationship for decades with Celebrimbor - the master smith and sole remainder of Feanor’s line (the mortal enemy and rival of his master), how they could reflect on the nature and marring of Middle Earth and whether Sauron’s motivations were truly evil or whether he really wanted to redeem himself at first before ‘Morgoth’s bonds’ (ie his hatred and sadism) became too strong. It would be so fascinating to explore Sauron/Mairon’s nature as a Maia of Order and his tuition under Aule and Melkor and what that could reveal to us about the mechanics of Tolkien’s world and his magic. It would be so emotional to see how the fallout happened, the betrayal both Celebrimbor and Sauron felt about each other, the sheer brutality of what happened and the decadence and fall of Numenor after.

I don’t want to spoil anyone’s enjoyment, but it beggars belief to me that the showrunners had the audacity to adapt the Second Age when they obviously do not have the rights to it and despite the cast and crew trying and a few gems, it simply does not compare with what Tolkien wrote or what the show could have become as an adaptation if it had the skill, vision and rights to become what it sets itself up as. And that is a heartbreaking shame, not least because a whole host of new fans may be misled or put off the Second Age because of this. 

#anti rings of power #anti rop #sauron #galadriel #each to their own #I could almost enjoy it in small bits but then remember what it is distorting or replacing and I think no #antis don't interact #spoilers #I have tagged appropriately

[hiril-thuringwethil]

I don't want Halbrand in my stupid sexy Sauron tags 😭😭😭

#anti halbrand #is that a thing? #it is now #silmarillion #lotr #sauron #mairon #annatar #lotr rings of power #lord of the rings rings of power #rings of power #lotr rings of power spoilers #rings of power spoilers #rop #rop spoilers #halbrand #tolkien

[beginnerblueglass]

canNOT believe that someone looked at the story of Celebrimbor, Annatar, Celeborn, Galadriel, Eregion, Khazad-Dum, and the creation of the Rings of Power, PEAK storytelling!! and said, “eh, I can do it better” ugh.

#the UTTER disrespect #anti rings of power #anti rop #celebrimbor #annatar #sauron #Eregion #Tolkien #the unfinished tales #jrr tolkien #second age

[nateofgreat]

Okay, okay. While I don't think I'll ever stop coming up with new jokes for how absurd Sauron first disguising himself as Halbrand, getting caught, leaving, and COMING BACK IN A DIFFERENCE DISGUISE TO DO THE SAME THING is. I want to elaborate on why this is such a stupid decision.

1: Man, do they hate book Galadriel.

For all the talk about how they love the books, Galadriel, etc. They've done a heck of a job of reinterpreting basically about her into being something detestable. For those of you who don't know, in the book Galadriel's one of the only ones who was capable of seeing through Sauron's tricks. To the point that Sauron avoided her the entire time he was disguised as Annatar because he knew she'd expose him immediately.

The show has reinterpreted Galadriel's knowledge from being because of her wisdom... to her simply already knowing from how Sauron blew his cover to her earlier. So now she's either withholding that knowledge to save her reputation (our hero) or we're doing the whole "no one believes Galadriel :(" plotline again.

Then there's the way they reinterpreted her speech from being her resisting the ring to her thinking about the time Sauron hit on her.

2: Repetitive

Sauron's seriously just doing the same exact thing he did in the first season with a different disguise.

3: The showrunners said they thought the Annatar plot was dumb, but now they've actually made it dumb.

In the official ROP podcast, the writers Payne and Mckay openly mocked how the Annatar plot was written in the book, saying no one would ever fall for it. The actions of true fans lol.

Now however, they've actually made it stupid and unbelievable.

You see in the book, Annatar approached the elves with a proposed solution to the fading magic of Middle Earth. This led to the forging of the rings under his supervision.

Now, they've changed it so that Sauron first shows up as Halbrand to help them forge the elven rings, thus solving the problem. Then leaves and comes back as Annatar with, I guess, a proposed solution to an already solved problem and nobody sees a problem with this.

In other words, despite laughing at how stupid they think the original is they've gone and actually made it something stupid and unbelievable. Congratulations boys! How's the "book Tolkien never wrote" coming along?

#anti Rings of Power #anti ROP #anti amazon lotr #Rings of Power #rop #rop critical #anti rop Galadriel #anti rop Sauron #Galadriel #anti trop #trop critical #trop negativity

[wanderingwolfwitcher]

High King Gil-galad: “Galadriel must leave these shores at once for Valinor, lest she court the very evil she was obsessively pursuing more than her own missing husband and bring it down upon us all.”

Elrond: "Agreed."

Galadriel: “Hey guys! I decided to skip Heaven, go for a swim, enjoy an island vacation with this random hot guy I met adrift at sea, encouraged him not to pursue a life of quiet and peaceful isolation, then invaded the Southlands with him and an army and put a crown on his head. Meet my new boyfriend, Satan. What’s for supper?”

#galadriel #sauron #halbrand #gil galad #rings of power #saurondriel #halbrand x galadriel #galadriel x halbrand #haladriel #halatariel #elrond #sauron x galadriel #galadriel x sauron #anti rop #anti rings of power #womp womp #lol

[thelandswemadeofpaper]

This is the what happened! Not GaladrielxHalbrand bullshit!

#anti rop #amazon rings of power #anti rings of power #amazon #anti halbrand #silmarillion #annatar #Celebrimbor #annatar the sexy #galadriel was one of that didn't belived in sauron crap #Celebrimbor was the seduced one

[wilcze-kudly]

Still mad that Ar Pharazon is made up to be this lame Jafar ripoff mf in the rings of power. Honestly, evil advisors are getting really played out as a trope.

In the Silmarilion, he was a a warrior, a war monger in fact, who forced himself upon his cousin in order to usurp the throne. This character could've been used as an excellent critique of toxic masculinity, especially with the recent popularity of alpha males.

Having Miriel as a victim of spousal abuse would also be an interesting plot point as well, especially if juxtaposed with the free and very much in charge of herself (especially if they were to keep Celeborn and have. Look, I'm all for strong female characters, but if all your female characters are just the same 'strong, arrogant woman who can totally do everything a guy can fo because we are feminists here at up with the times studio' in dufferent fonts, well I'm gonna start thinking that you don't know how to write women.

Also wishing they went more horror with Sauron than 'villain romance'. Like apologies for wanting one of the most iconic villains of all time to be an actually fun antagonist rather than reliving every 'reader x (insert fictional villain) self insert fic from the early 2010s'

#i am a proud hater #also its been a while since i last read the sil and i dont have the copy with me so feel free to nitpick #rop had potential... it just didn't live up to it. (amazon usurps a property with a lot of potential and then squanders it. shocker) #i may elaborate on this but i thinking too much about the rings of power just... hurts #the rings of power #rings of power #anti rings of power #anti rop #tolkien #the silmarilion #ar pharazon #galadriel #tar miriel #sauron

[vildo]

MoRRRgoth SauRRRon FinRRRod, GaladRRRiel put down youRRR swoRRRd and stop puRRRing

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[heirofdragons]

My two cents on rings of power after my brain recovered from the damage those two episodes have dealt me. Yes it took me 3 days like Jesus returning from the dead.

Let us begin with the bad stuff

The dialogues. ohmygod the dialogues. They are just so unbelievably BAD. It physically hurt my eardrums to listen to half of those exchanges. While the other half made me cringe so hard I wished I could literally crawl out of my skin.

The costumes. Why are elves dressed with primark plaids and nightshirts? Why are all armour designs so lame?? Why do all the costumes look so bad??? Where’s your goddam budget?????

The hair. All elves have this Elvis Presley cut for no apparent reason. Again, couldn’t you guys find a couple of bucks to buy some wigs?? In that BILLION dollar budget??? No? Okay guess all elves are your average republican parliamentary from the 70’ now.

FINROD. Everything about him is just nope.

Galadriel. Or that impostor that stole her name. What is wrong with her?? Not one of her lines made any sense. Her actions close behind on the not making sense matter. She’s supposed to be a seasoned commander but makes the stupidest choices a military leader could make. Like, for example, going to “hunt down SAURON” with an armada of - hear hear - six puny elves. And I’m supposed to take this seriously?

The harfoots are literally the Croods. Yes the cartoon about the cavemen scared of anything outside their cave. “New is bad.”I’m sure they said that at a certain point.

Celebrimbor wouldn’t have been so bad if they had casted an actor fit to play the role. Like AT LEAST 20 years younger and with long black hair.

Don’t even get me started on Elrond.

The plot. Or rather the lack of thereof. All the characters seemed aimless despite the fact that Galadriel kept repeating that the sole purpose of her existence was “hunting down sauron” sounding like a broken record. They barely introduced the new characters and the ones we (supposedly) know are made barely recognisable so it all feels like a bunch of puzzle pieces haphazardly thrown together.

Now some good stuff

The OST. Good soup.

The orcs/goblins. GREAT designs! Extra creepy. They did a good job there.

The dwarves. Disa in particular was a pleasant surprise, I could even overlook the lack of beard.

Those 7 seconds in which they crammed the entire first age. It wasn’t good per se but they still managed to convey the sheer amount of power Morgoth had. (Or perhaps Melkor’s just such a cool character that not even amazons bad writing could bring him down to nothing.)

Sauron. Or rather his looming presence. Nice. That one shot of him in his spiky helm and armour was pretty cool.

Gil-galad wasn’t too bad.

#the rings of power #rings of power #lotr rop #lotr on prime #galadriel #sauron #anti rings of power #reject rings of power