#and why is it discourse

[golden-haired-native]

To adress this recent discourse I saw

Cishet Aromantic men ARE LGBT!

No other way around it, they are queer and if you disagree go fuck yourself

#lgbtq #lgbtqia #aroace #aro #aromantic #arospec #aro positivity #queer discourse #why the fuck wouldn’t they be queer? #THE A STANDS FOR AROMANTIC AND ASEXUAL NOT FUCKING ALLY

[liquidstar]

look this site really is awful for ppl with OCD so i just wanna reassure anyone that you are not Tainted Forever for consuming a piece of media with questionable content. the fact that youre able to recognize it speaks to your critical thinking skills, which is good, certain depictions should be critiqued. but you dont need to ruminate on it to the point where you begin to feel guilty for simply witnessing gross or creepy writing choices. you dont have to vindicate yourself to the fictional tumblr discourser inside your head, saying that youre now a bad person bc you watched the wrong anime. your actual response to it still matters of course, but thats that and this is this. just seeing it is neutral, you didnt commit a thought crime. its literally fine.

IF YOU ARE USING THIS POST TO ONLY FURTHER YOUR STUPID PEDANTIC BLACK-AND-WHITE DISCOURSE TO GET A "GOCHA" OVER THE OTHER SIDE YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. DON'T USE OUR DISORDER TO VINDICATE YOUR BEHAVIOR. THOUGHT CRIMES ARENT REAL BUT ACTIONS STILL MATTER. PEOPLE WITH OCD ARE CAPABLE OF THINKING CRITICALLY ABOUT OUR ACTIONS AND RESPONSES, EVEN WITH INTRUSIVE THOUGHTS AND RUMINATIONS. TREATING US AS IF WE CANNOT, ONLY TO FORCE US TO USE YOUR STRINGENT UNNUANCED DISCOURSE OPINIONS ABOUT "PURITY CULTURE" (TRIGGERING TO THOSE WITH OCD) AS THE ONLY REASONABLE GUIDE DOES MORE TO EXACERBATE OUR OBSESSIONS THAN HELP US. YOU ARE THE ISSUE AS WELL. YOU ARE ALSO THE TUMBLR DISCOURSER INSIDE OUR HEADS. DO NOT USE US FOR YOUR DISCOURSE. WE ARE PEOPLE, NOT HYPOTHETICALS TO USE TO EXPLAIN IF YOUR FROZEN INCEST FANFICTION IS OKAY OR NOT. TREATING US AS IF WE CANNOT AUTONOMOUSLY HAVE OUR OWN OPINIONS ON WHEN MEDIA IS TANGIBLY HARMFUL IS ABLEIST. FORCING US TO ABIDE BY YOUR IN-GROUP'S SET OF UNEQUIVOCAL MORALS IS ABLEIST. ACTING AS THOUGH THE ONLY SOLUTION FOR US IS MINDLESS MEDIA CONSUMPTION IN WHICH "EVERY DEPICTION OF XYZ, NO MATTER HOW POORLY DONE OR EXPLOITATIVE, IS ALWAYS OKAY AND IF YOU DISAGREE YOURE ACTUALLY AN EVIL 'ANTI'" IS ABLEIST. THOSE ARE THE SAME BLACK-AND-WHITE MORALS THAT SEND US INTO OBSESSIVE SPIKES, BUT FLIPPED. A SET OF MORALS IN WHICH QUESTIONING THE IMPACT OF A PIECE OF WORK MAKES YOU AN "EVIL CONSERVATIVE PURITAN "ANTI"" DOES NOT HELP MORAL OCD.

YOU ARE THE DAMN TUMBLR DISCOUERSERS MAKING THIS SHIT WORSE FOR US! YOURE THE EXACT SAME BUT WITH FLIPPED BUZZWORDS! YOU'RE MISSING THE WHOLE DAMN POINT!

#the fictional tumblr discourser inside your head is like the opposite of critical thinking its just extremes #blocking that helps you form better thoughts and come to a better understanding of why said content can be harmful in said depiction etc et #and to be clear shutting off all critical thoughts is not the solution either bc then you end up with.... Those People #the ones who jack off to lolicon on ao3 and think its the same artistically as lolita x_x #this post is not a vindication for that sort of thing. or say like actively supporting an openly bigoted series or author #those are different things because they are actual choices and actions. you chose to respond that way #thats what i mean when i say your actual response still matters. as in your actions surrounding it

[the-agent-of-blight]

also, i really find it interesting how people can genuinely go about saying "Well this group isn't attacked for their identity so they can't be queer " while then turning around and. attacking said group. for their identity. and exemplifying classic __-phobic tropes. It's really dumb. You are being the thing that you claim does not exist

#this post is about the current aro discourse nonsense going about but is absolutely more generally applicable. #aromantic #aro #idk about anyone else but i always find the aphobia at least a little bit validating? in a weird way. because they're always saying #'you arent queer if you arent oppressed' or whatever bs. so whenever they turn around and. and attack us for being aro its like #they're showing me (and the rest of everyone) why i must be queer. by their own logic

[catofoldstones]

we already have people bitching about how “i can’t stand Chani, she’s so annoying 🙄” and “Paul chose Chani to be the mother of his children, Irulan is just at the sidelines eating dust as she should”, like brothers we cannot do this again. We can’t Chani v Irulan our way out of this one because the problem is Paul and the Empire. Gosh, we truly are never getting out of the patriarchy.

#and god forbid someone mention that Paul in turn screwed over Chani by not making him his wife and granting her the rights and privileges > #> that are due to her #and some fucker will respond oh he had to marry Irulan to become emperor #(YES WHY?! UNDERSTAND THAT) #i just want to scream #wtf is this #is this the level of discourse we bring to these books/movies #? #this is giving very early asoiaf fandom and not in a good way #dune #paul atreides #princess irulan #chani #chani dune #dune books #dune movies #sigh #irulan corrino #duneposting

[acarillustrated]

thinking about mizu from blue eye samurai. thinking. thinking so much. thinking about how mizu operates outside of gender. like we joke about her gender being revenge but straight up? it literally is. like she grew up as a boy and is most comfortable being a man, but behind that is the feeling of betraying himself because he isn't being honest about who he is and he lives in fear of being discovered. and when he lived as a woman, she found joy there as well. she fell in love, and though she wasn't good at it, she liked being a wife and enjoying a simple life. but in that life too, she isn't being honest about who she is. and when she reveals her true self, it's not a woman, she's a demon, a weapon. she's to masculine to be a woman, and too feminine to be a man. ultimately, mizu is most comfortable when they are being a murder machine. that's when they feel they are being the most true to themself. like a sword, they are neither man nor woman, but a blend of both, which makes them stronger.

#also there's a point to be made about how their identity as a mixed person plays a role in their gender #but i can't really speak on that #it's obvious tho #like that's what the show is about #like the reason mizu is perceived as masculine is because she's half white #honestly the racial thing is more important #which is why it's explicitly stated in the show #but im seeing a lot of discourse about mizu's gender #honestly a lot of mizu's relationship w gender is subtext #like good news tho! #mizu is a woman! but also a man! #it's both at the same time #anyway #ill shut up now #i just love her so much #not art #blue eye samurai #mizu #blue eye samurai mizu #bes mizu

[crumb-crumblet-s-crumbington]

his daughter is not a weapon!

#ethan winters #karl heisenberg #resident evil 8 #re8 #resident evil village #rebhfun #resident evil #resident evil fanart #miss D and her man thing #i hope to god this does not start discourse #be fr #u really think ethan is in the wrong for turning down his deal #turning down a deal from a man whos first impression was stabbing him and throwing him into a death pit #'yeah but he stabbed him because ____' #BRO HE STABBED HIM #IT DOES NOT MATTER #karl is not a good person #just because he was willing to ally with ethan does not make him a saint #he wanted to use ethans daughter #why would u tell the man who has been fighting his way through ur family to save his baby daughter #that u want to use said baby daughter #it was a bad deal please dont try to twist it to make it seem like ethans stupid for turning it down #karl is stupid for thinking hed accept and then refusing to elaborate and throwing him into his jet engine hole #this doesnt mean i dont like karl #im just tired of people tyring to make karl look better by making ethan look worse #cmon man #this concludes another crumb essay in the tags

[thatone-churro]

hang on. there’s no way we’re revitalizing “are [cishet] aro people queer” discourse. it is almost 20-fucking-24. no. say sike right now. you’re all fucking ridiculous. how are we not only not over this, but bringing it up for active discourse again. and acting like the things being said are common discussion and not. blatant aphobia. which is homophobia. it’s queerphobia. did we never fucking learn from the many “they want us to fight amongst ourselves because if we’re divided it’s easier to ruin us” type talks that everyone was making a while ago. or was that a phase too. what happened to “anything not heteronormative is what queer is. anything with romance/sex/gender that’s othered from what society deems the “norm” is what we are. we are a community of outcasts because the greater community doesn’t want us either way.” what the shit.

#cishet in brackets because that was the prompting poll question #but i know the internet well enough. i know ‘discussions’ are probably getting ‘broader’ on this as we speak #and yes before someone gets on me for my probably inaccurate quotes #i’m not saying this was done by ‘the big man’ to split us up but. #discourse within the queer community ABOUT just who can be in the queer community has always weakened us #and has ALWAYS completely missed why/how we’re a community as a whole. #grace being kinda serious for once #text post #lgbtq #aromantic #aromantism #aphobia #lgbtq community #arospec

[padmestrilogy]

george lucas is such a great writer he will call the jedi mafia dons then move right on

hey buddy . elaborate?

#jedi discourse on tumblr: well if we were meant to question the jedi's decisions why are they the PROTAGONISTS...hm?? #george lucas: i cooka da meatball #star wars

[cat-hybridcellbit]

I know that a lot of people are upset that Quackity is not prioritizing communication, but with the absolute legal SNAFU that QSMP Studios has become it’s entirely understandable. This kind of situation, worker’s rights violations in multiple countries and the requirements of each country’s legal system, is a veritable minefield. Your wording has to be incredibly precise over every update, every reassurance. The absolute best he could tell anyone (including former employees and volunteers) is “we are still working on it” because any kind of promise, assurance, etc. could be later treated as a guarantee. Anytime there’s a potential for a lawsuit the advice given is to keep everything sealed up tight until an actionable plan can be implemented.

This is just from my perspective because I am very familiar with how lawyers in multiple industries operate, plus knowing that Quackity has a pre-law background it makes complete sense why this is the way he’s choosing to handle the situation.

TLDR: Yeah the lack of communication doesn’t feel great, especially for the former employees, but there’s actual legal reasons for it and in the long run it’s probably the best option, as much as we may dislike it.

#qadmin situation #qsmp #I do just want to give some perspective to the intricacies he’s likely dealing with #this isn’t meant as a criticism just to help explain why communication is so sparse #discourse

[pommunist]

‼️ Antoine started his live talking about the QSMP admins situation, Lea speaking up, and Pomme ‼️

-Recapped the situation : about two weeks ago, Aypierre accidentally leaked a random discord convo between him Pomme and Lea, which is what launched the situation

-He doesn’t really understand why the admins can’t talk with them (the ccs) in private.

-Think it’s a bit extreme that she got fired and wanted with Pierre to send a message to avoid her being fired. They didn’t do it because Lea started to collect things that were going wrong behind the scenes and sent a long document about it to them.

-Antoine thinks she was right to do so and was chocked to learn everything that was going on, especially that people weren’t paid and threatened if they complained.

-Him, Etoiles, Baghera and Aypierre wrote a long message in english they wanted to send to Quackity, calling out the situation. They didn’t got to send it on time as Lea went public before that and then Quackity went live.

-He said that he fully supports people who spoke up about the situation.

-He said there is no QSMP without the admins and said if there is no drastic changes about the managing of QSMP, with proof, he’ll personally never come back because he doesn’t want to support a project that exploits people.

-He said : « Pay people who work for you. If you can’t pay them, don’t expect them to endure the workload of someone who is paid. The least you can do is at least treat them nicely and fairly. »

-Knows that Pomme’s admin was doing a lot of work in the server and she did get put off the white list on the admin discord and got her accesses revoked.

-Won’t play QSMP ever again if Pomme has to change admins.

-Thinks that what Quackity said during his live is a good start but things must change. He’s optimistic about it and believe positive change can happen if what must be done is done.

#qsmp #qsmp antoine #qsmp antoine daniel #qsmp pomme #qsmp crit #qsmp discourse #THATS WHY HES THE GOAT #been following this man for 10 years never been disappointed

[apollos-boyfriend]

people not in the mcyt fandom cheering for mcyt to win the most annoying fandoms poll: a drm fan said something offensive on twitter so i hate all mcyt fans :(

mcyt fans cheering for mcyt to win the most annoying fandoms poll: we are approximately 300+ communities all forcibly shoved into one category. half of us hate each other and there is a rampant superiority issue between communities despite them all Literally just being people roleplaying in minecraft. not only are we split between creators, but different social media communities hate each other as well. a twitter mcyt fan and a tumblr mcyt fan are wildly different things and are at constant war with each other.

#icarus speaks #discourse #? #just in case #i think the difference is silly #y’all do Not understand why we deserve this winx

[skylathescholar]

Okay... I never called myself a Super Serious Batfamily fan. I read what I want and pick things I like from canon and fanon like strawberries. So maybe I just don't have enough information or dedication.

But.

I really, really don't understand why liking one character necessitates hating another? I'm primarily a Tim Drake stan, but Jason Todd is my babygirl too. Damian is a sweetheart and doesn't deserve a bunch of the crap the Tim Drake fandom gives him. Dick isn't perfect either. Tim has made many mistakes. Steph has. Bruce has. Almost everyone has (I feel like Cass and Alfred might be exempt but I don't know lol) and I really hate that there's this attitude of "Batfam member vs Batfam member".

Like, welcome to having siblings. My brother could absolutely say the meanest thing he's ever said to me, and I'll give him crap but I'll sit next to him at dinner.

I don't know, and I know there are such things as AUs where a sibling is more intense than other universes, and vice versa, and I fully utilize my ability to move on from a fic if I don't like it, but I just hate the character bashing that seems to take some parts of the fandom by storm.

It makes me sad, ok? 😭😂

#they're brothers your honor #let them be a family #I like angst as much as the next person but I like it in fics #not fandom discourse #you know? #liking one character doesn't mean hating another #why is this hard #batfamily #batman #tim drake #batfam #jason todd #damian wayne #dick grayson #fanfiction #dc comics #fandom

[transexualpirate]

hot take but i think that "fictional characters are fictional and liking or disliking them have no real life effect" and "the way you treat certain characters can be an indicative of your character in real life" are statements that can and should coexist

example: character A is violent and makes misogynistic comments. they're still charismatic and their arc is interesting to read/watch. person A acknowledges that the character is bad but they still enjoy consuming content from the character and they do so unapologetically. they're allowed to like the character, especially considering that literally everyone the character has harmed is also fictional. they don't pretend the character isn't violent, or misogynistic, they just like the character despite that. they post about it constantly. this is a neutral action that shows nothing about person A.

character B is a white man that makes racist comments, treats a black person in the show badly and gains money through anti-ethical means. they're still charismatic and their arc is interesting to read/watch. person B claims the character is flawed but overall misunderstood and all their actions are entirely justified. they're allowed to like the character, especially considering that literally everyone the character has harmed is also fictional. person B claims the black character that character B treated badly either had it coming or overreacted. all of person B's favorite characters are white men. person B goes out of their way to justify that all of their favorite characters are actually misunderstood and good people, and more people should like them. this shows that person B likely has some favoritism for white men.

just. you're allowed to like fictional characters even if they're awful fucking people but. and im not sure why this is controversial. the way you interact with media says something about you. this isn't necessarily a bad thing. does this make sense please

#im so so tired #and on opioids #prescribed. please #am i expressing my thoughts right #does this make sese #sense #mine #cw discourse #ig #possibly #why is #the way you interact with media says something about you #a controversial take #long post #discourse

[aboutiroh]

Why would a greengrocer travel the world to sell a single cart of cabbages? Are the cabbages so bad that the news spreads like wildfire (“I heard Sung’s cousin’s skin turned green and that he hasn’t left the house since”), forcing him to move towns every few days? Have we actually ever seen him sell a single cabbage? Or is his cart always full? If he does sell cabbages off-screen and is not travelling with the same cart of cabbages, where does he get new ones? Is it plausible he's first travelled back home every time we encounter him in a new Earth Kingdom town? Is it plausible we just happen to stumble upon him whenever he's gotten new products? Or are the cabbages merely a cover for a larger conspiracy? In this essay I will

#cabbage man #atla #iroh’s content and comments #avatar: the last airbender #basically #the cabbage man is a spy #a lousy one but still #he did it because he thought it’d be exciting #but it was nowhere near as dramatic he imagined the job would be #that’s why he went into theatre #i’m pretty late i know #i remember this was a ‘discourse’ during the atla renaissance #but I couldn’t find the posts #so idk what the conclusion was

[arbitraryallegory]

I absolutely need everyone who has only seen opla to know that Usopp being written as afraid of bugs is the most heinous and unforgivable of character assassinations, that boy would keep tarantulas and scorpions as pets; SANJI is the bugphobe!!!

#one piece #i went USOPP??? AFRAID OF INSECTS????? #MY USOPP???? #why is there discourse on this now #please it was 99% shitpost let me live

[poorly-drawn-mdzs]

Wei Wuxian eats a watermelon. Yep!

#poorly drawn mdzs #mdzs #wei wuxian #nothing out of the ordinary here. Just good fandom fun #Watermelon discourse has been going on and I want to let people know where I stand. #This came about because I wanted to experiment with translating the (traditional) PD-MDZS style to a digital format #and while sitting there thinking of what to draw...my inspiration came to me. #This is the equivalent of sneaking vegetables into the spaghetti sauce but its important to get your gotdamn veggies #I'm not very good at organizing my thoughts (evidence: the tags of every post on this blog). #but please do not look away from this moment in history. One person cannot solve it and no one expects you to. #Even if it is just spending time doing some research on the situation and history. Or boosting posts that are more articulate #Any action helps! ANY action! Everyone has a different level of capacity for this and that's okay. Anything is fine. Dont let it be nothing #Anyhow. did I like doing this digitally? Yes but its mixed. It was faster but also spark the same joy I usually get while drawing #I will have to get over it very quickly though. You will all see why in a few days