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ccssketchbooknstuff · 1 month
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they probably would've trained as kids before they went to foil and épée respectively
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mymiraclebox · 1 month
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Why is the Prodigious canonically more powerful than the Miraculouses? Like Nooroo full on says: "It is for good reason that the Prodigious was abandoned in favor of the Miraculous! It was secured in that cave because it is too powerful, too dangerous!" and I just... don't see it?
Like don't get me wrong, being able to transform into animals is an awesome power, but how is it more powerful and more dangerous than the Miraculouses? The Peacock alone can create animals to fight and many other beings, we've seen the Butterfly give the power of shapeshifting to one not even using a Miraculous, and the elemental powers one gets in dragon form is the same as the Dragon Miraculous. And all of this is not considering the many other powers the canon Miraculouses can do, and who knows what the other Miraculouses not seen in the show can do as well!
Then to actually use the Prodigious you have to possess the value each Renling has to even transform! With the Miraculouses anyone with any intent or any values can transform and use the powers by just knowing the right words, words they can order the kwami to tell them with no resistance! Kwamis are forced to the whims of their holders with just a few words, while the Prodigious gets a whole powerful guardian to protect it and deem who is worthy to wield it? Why don't the Miraculouses get that level of protection?
Then finally with the Miraculouses we have the Wish with Tikki and Plagg's Miraculouses. You're telling me the ability to completely destroy the universe and recreate it at one's own whims is less powerful than shapeshifting? That the shapeshifting powers are the ones that needed to be sealed away in the cave but literal universe-ending powers didn't?
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toxinellebug · 4 months
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Paris and the World under The Supreme’s Rule Headcannons
Back during WW2, when Marianne suggested to Wang Fu they should use the Miraculous, she of course meant using them to fight. Wang Fu decided to use them to make a wish;
World Peace.
The price?
World freedom.
So there are SOME good things… No war in Vietnam, no war in Isreal, and good news Americans; 9/11 never happened and school shootings do not exist because it is impossible for anyone to get a gun, not even hunters!
On the downside, no guns for hunting means wildlife conservation is a thing of the past. Animal overpopulation in addition to human deforestation has led to a significant decrease in food sources for wildlife, many of which have gone extinct due to starvation. Another plus side is there are no “slap on the wrist” punishments for criminals who assault women and children. Death penalty is a very effective way to prevent recurring crimes.
Prisons are also no longer a multi-million dollar drain on tax-paying citizens; no free room and board for criminals. They all have to work in labor camps to earn every morsel of food and live in 15 square foot cells.
(Marinette’s Grandmother is currently serving time in a labor camp)
There aren’t really much in the way of trials either… You are arrested for a crime, presented with the facts/evidence, then sentenced.
There are no homeless wandering streets, begging for hand-outs. There are special labor camps for the impoverished where they are assigned tasks that meet their physical and mental abilities, snd are paid enough to afford them cheap living quarters, approximately 130 square feet in size, and the most basic of food stuffs and hygiene products to keep them alive. No, they cannot refuse.
Remember, the Supreme knows best.
Project Oxygen is a go- several small parks have been “re-habilitated” into giant filters and fresh air is beginning to be sold in fancy plastic bottles thanks to Bertrand King. He’s been trying for a while to convince Gabriel that Adrien should do commercials for Project Oxygen, as it would be great for the boy’s career…. But Gabriel always comes up with an excuse to get out of it. The latest being that it wouldn’t match with Adrien’s new look.
Audrey Bourgeois ADORES Adrien’s new look! It’s so much more bold and edgy! Also, the latest fashion trend is not glitter, it’s metal studs- industry and progress in a sleek, metallic form.
Audrey is home more often than Andre, who could be gone for months at a time working on one of his movies. But of course he still handles important paperwork and does video calls to check on hotel and sends lots of very expensive gifts to his little Princess.
Chloe is even more abusive and demanding of Sabrina, and poor Sabrina puts up with it for her father’s sake-
There has been a lot of vandalism lately (thanks to Shadybug and ClawNoir) and talk that Enforcers just aren’t as effective at keeping the order as they used to be. Word is that tech Giant Tsurugi is in the process of designing new automatons that will be more efficient (and less costly) than human Enforcers. Who knows? There may even be a surge of Enforcer lay-offs if the project becomes successful. Chloe has hinted that she MIGHT be willing to put in a good word with Daddy, should Mr. Raincomprix be one of the many Enforcers who finds himself out of a job. The Hotel could always use more security guards/bouncers. But since Daddy ONLY hires the most DEDICATED employees… Well, how can Chloe possibly make a recommendation if she’s not sure Sabrina’s dad would REALLY give it his all? So Sabrina bends over backwards until she breaks and then some to keep Chloe happy.
Officer Raincomprix is also uneasy about talks of future layoffs, and as such, has become harsh in Enforcing law and order. No little wrong doing goes unnoticed or forgiven. No leniency. (Think Roger-cop without the Akuma).
Rose is not that perky. Under the Supreme, there is no socialist nonsense like Universal Healthcare, so medicines, doctor visits, prescriptions, hospitals… it’s all crazy expensive just like in the USA. This means, in order for Rose to be able to attend a private school like Francois Dupont; her parents work a LOT of overtime and pinch pennies whenever they can. So it’s very lonely at home and in this universe, Rose has not (yet) met Juleka (as stated in previous headcannon). Instead of Unicorns, Rose’s favorite animal is the Caladrius, (a mythological bird that can heal any illness). Though unicorns and kittens are still in her top five favs.
Rose doesn’t see the word through rose-colored glasses. She can’t see the silver-lining in ever raincloud… Instead, she tries to make it herself; if there is no positive, she will just have to invent one! It’s more work, and exhausting, but she HAS to, otherwise she’d drown in depression. Rose’s illness is kept a secret, not because she fears people will treat her with pity, but that she fears people will look down on her; like she’s a burden on her parents, like it’s annoying to have to put up with her weakness.
(I’ve actually been sick myself, since xmas day in fact- perhaps as punishment from the universe for making ClawNoir cataclysm Santa Claus)
Penny is Bob Roth’s personal servant- er, I mean, assistant… which means she’s also gopher for XY. (There is no woman in Paris more miserable than Penny).
Jean-Pierre Monlataing is still an Art teacher at Francois Dupont… and he teaches traditional art styles. Helping students practice time-honored techniques through repetition and standardization. Graffiti is not art, so no spray-paint cans in his classroom! Alix Kubdel is his most troubled student. Marinette does not attend art club. Nathaniel shows great talent for portraits.
Jalil strives to be better than his father; he admire Nathalie Sancoeur and hopes to rise to her position of Director of the Louvre someday.
Directors of Museums are prestigious positions you have to work hard your whole life to even be considered for, as The Supreme appoints them. As far as the public knows, this is for the sake of preserving history as well as ensuring that dangerous ideas from the past do not repeat themselves and inspire anarchy in young, impressionable minds.
The reality is that they are searching for clues to missing Miraculous.
The Supreme has already taken steps to ensure the Prodigious will never pose a threat to his power (Temple and access to cave have been destroyed and the bracelet has been confiscated and placed in a secure location).
But there are still most likely Miraculous scattered across the earth. Gems that, if fallen into the “wrong hands” could disrupt the peace and order that the Supreme has worked hard to maintain.
Marianne intends to find these Miraculous first… if only she had the help of someone younger and more physically up to the challenge.
When Gabriel/Betterfly/Hesperia forms “The Resistance” and Marianne is introduced to their ranks, this is exactly the plan she suggests in order to take down The Supreme and give power back to all the people.
She only has a few clues on where to start searching though.
…Fun fact, if you were to unify the Ladybug miraculous of creation with the Eagle miraculous of freedom, you would get Ladybird- determined to create a new, free world.
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imthepunchlord · 4 months
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The prodigious still exists in the AU?
No.
They didn't really add anything lore wise, and what they did add was confusing. They're stated to be far more dangerous than Miraculous, but all they do is animal shapeshifting. Exclusively 8 animal shapeshifting. Mean while Miraculous has a time traveling Rabbit. A Butterfly that can grant ANY power. A Peafowl that can make life that you can fully control physically, emotionally, mentally, and terminate on a whim. But Prodigious are the ones dangerous enough to be sealed away... suuuuuure.
Either way, the changed Monkey now has the power of shapeshifting, which can become any animal AND adjust their size to big or small. So Prodigious are pointless with this Miraculous and it's changed powers. They're much weaker by comparison.
Them having 5/8 animals that are repeated and exist as Miraculous doesn't help them stand out. I also took the few that are new and just made them Miraculous as I took the concept of Bagua and made it official.
And honestly, you can cut them from the Miraculous story and you literally miss nothing. At least from what I've seen as I stopped watching ML about s3 and just listened to those that did continue watching. I have yet to hear anything about Fei and the Prodigious talked about.
To me, a lot of the Shanghai Special was pointless so I'd vote it doesn't exist or it's drastically changed, like instead this is where the Zodiac were revealed and how they came to join Fu's Miracle Box and came to be in the show, potentially testing Marinette's potential as a Guardian and accepting it.
I also would've gone with the Shanghai being Marinette exclusive in focus, no Agreste in sight, and it progresses her upcoming role as Guardian and expands upon it. Though as a trade off, the New York Special should've been Adrien focused, no Marinette in sight, and it could've been HM and Chat Noir had to reluctantly team up against a new threat, and there are undertones there that imply, hey, this family COULD still work. And just have the NY Special progress the Agreste plot in some way. This also could've been the intro to Audrey and Zoe, and set up the future Bourgeois plot (that ultimately wasted all of our time).
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exammole · 7 months
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My changes to Miraculous (plus my thought process)
Part 1: Magic System
For context, although I am a fan of Miraculous and know what happens in it. I’ve never watched the series past season 3 Miracle Queen. But I still want to rewrite this show, it had a lot of potential that was wasted.
Kwami are cool, and although they’re massively important to the story I feel they’re also massively wasted. I also have issues with a lot of the powers as some blatantly copy off of and overshadow the main 7, and some are also stronger than the main 7 too (looking at Fluff and Longg). And I find the threat of Kwami using their power without a holder under-utilised.
The easy and probably better answer is to scrap the Zodiac Kwami entirely. But as I like some of them I’ve elected to making the zodiac more situational and the 7 more stronger.
The way it works in my version is that since the 7 main Kwami have had centuries longer to adjust to their forms; they have the ability to be flexible in what their powers can do, given if their holder trains enough. The 12 Zodiac Kwami who are just now being given physical forms, have far weaker powers. That being said, the general rules Kwami follow in the show (cannot be seen with technology, phasing through walls ect.) all still apply.
If I add the handicap that Kwami’s can’t use their powers without their holders because it’ll cause a catastrophe, it’s not going to be treated as a joke because Kwami are literal gods now.
Also all Kwami have passive abilities, which are powers that can be used without triggering the time limit. I feel most of them are understandable except for Know, Know is basically a 6th sense type of power that lets to sense emotions and vibes.
Tikki: Kwami of Creation
With minimal training, her holder can create objects (although what object is made is random).
With sufficient training, her holders can control what object they create.
With experienced training, her holders can create living things. More energy is used to create more complex life.
Tikki also has the passive ability of Fly
Plagg: Kwami of Destruction
With minimal training, his holder can destroy objects (although the level of destruction cannot be controlled)
With sufficient training, his holder can control the level of destruction.
With experienced training, his holder can increase their own strength by destroying other objects.*
Plagg also has the passive ability of Climb
Nooroo: Kwami of Transmission
With minimal training, his holder can spectate from one place to another
With sufficient training, his holder can communicate from one place to another
With experienced training, his holder can send things from one place to another
Nooroo also has the passive ability of Flight
Wayzz: Kwami of Protection
With minimal training, his holder can create shields*
With sufficient training, his holder can create multiple shields at once*
With experienced training, his holder can change the shape of theur shield*
Wayzz also has the passive ability of Shield
Trixx: Kwami of Perception
With minimal training, his holder can create small and simple illusions.
With sufficient training, his holder can create larger scale, complex illusions.
With experienced training, his holder can alter various other sences (hearing, smelling, etc.)
Trixx also has the passive ability of Dodge
Pollen: Kwami of Action
With minimal training, her holder can stop a target from doing something.
With sufficient training, her holder can freeze a target in place
With experienced training, her holder can force a target to do something.
Pollen also has the passive ability of Flight
Duusu: Kwami of Emotion
With minimal training, her holder can enchant an object with powers.
With sufficient training, her holder can change anothers form from the enchanted object.
With experienced training, her holder can create a living being with an enchanted object.
Duusu also has the passive ability of Know
Note, since Creation and Destruction are the strongest, it takes longer for the holders to use their powers effectively. I think that’s a reasonable natural handicap, and it makes it more interesting to see how Ladybug and Cat Noir manoeuvre around a battle.
With the zodiac as I mentioned before; I scaled down their powers to make them more situational, and they don’t have as much creative leeway in what their powers can do. As well as they don’t appear until much later into the rewrite.
Mullo: Kwami of Division
Allows the holder to divide into smaller copies of themselves.
Mullo also has the passive ability of Dodge
Stompp: Kwami of Unionisation
Allows the holder to absorb people into themself, becoming a giant collective.
Stompp also has the passive ability of Shield
Roaar: Kwami of Acceleration
Allows the holder to increase their speed to lightning fast levels.
Roaar also has the passive ability of Run
Fluff: Kwami of Abduction
Allows the holder to store items in a pocket dimension indefinitely.
Fluff also has the passive ability of Jump
Longg: Kwami of Composition*
Allows the holder to change their body composition.
Longg also has the passive ability of Flight
Sass: Kwami of Intuition
Allows the holder to see into the future.
Sass also has the passive ability of Dodge
Kaalki: Kwami of Migration
Allows the holder to create gateways (different to portals)
Kaalki also has the passive ability of Run
Ziggy: Kwami of Gravitation*
Allows the holder to change somethings gravity
Ziggy also has the passive ability of Climb
Xuppu: Kwami of Derision
Allows the holder to interrupt another’s power.
Xuppu also has the passive ability of Climb
Orikko: Kwami of Rejuvenation
Allows the holder to heal a targets wounds/damage
Orikko also has the passive ability of Know
Barkk: Kwami of Position
Allows the holder to track a target.
Bark also has the passive ability of Run
Daizee: Kwami of Jubilation
Allows the holder to amplify another’s power greatly.
Daizee also has the passive ability of Know
These are the only Kwami in my rewrite, since Master Fu accidentally destroyed the rest like he did in the show. Other power sources would technically exist, but not to the scale of the United Heroez; only things like the Grimoire, Guardians, mage powers (referencing the comic), and the Prodigious apply.
I find the origins of the Kwami so interesting, and I’m so confused why the only mention of it is tucked away in some comic which may or may not even be canon?? So I want to have mages be somewhat important to the story. As for the Prodigious and the Renlings; I never watched any of the specials so I don’t have an opinion on them, I guess I find them interesting? Might as well add it in.
Grimoires:
Grimoires are books containing information about the Kwami, the Miraculous, and various spells. Only Guarduans and Mages can read Grimoires without having to translate the book, as they are Miraculous text.
Guardians:
Guardians are the scholars and protectors of the Miraculous. This title is earned through a ritual that grants a person the power to read Miraculous texts, and an extended life span. If willingly or forcibly renounced, they will lose all memories relating to the Miraculous, the Kwami, the Mages and the Guardians.
Mages:
Mages are the descendants of the man who created the first ever Miraculous. They have the power to read Miraculous texts, the unique power of creating miraculous, and having the power to perform spells naturally.
The Prodigious & The Renlings:
The Prodigious is an artefact made by early Mages and Guardians to see if they could create Kwami of their own, creating the Renlings as a result. However they were deemed too unsafe and hidden away forever. Renlings still have the same powers as they do in the special, able to turn into an animal that corresponds to a human value that the holder is possessing. (I’m looking at the wiki, I could be wrong).
Long Long transforms the holder into a dragon when the holder is exhibits Justice.
Ying Ying transforms the holder into an eagle when the holder exhibits Confidence.
She She transforms the holder into a snake when the holder exhibits Courage.
Tang Tang transforms the holder into a mantis when the holder exhibits Patience.
Xiong Xiong transforms the holder into a bear when the holder exhibits Calmness.
Hou Hou transforms the holder into a monkey when the holder exhibits Compassion.
Ma Ma transforms the holder into a horse when the holder exhibits Honour.
Hu Hu transforms the holder into a tiger when the holder exhibits Discipline.
In my next Miraculous rewrite post, I’ll be talking about the plot.
EDIT: I’ve ended up changing a few things, bcuz I’m lowkey making this rewrite up as I go along. I’ll mention them when necessary, but I’ll be adding a * to anything I’ve edited. Sorry for any possible confusion 😓😓
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shell-lee-inc · 10 months
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Marvel: Avenger Infinity War and Endgame was the most ambitious crossover event in history!
Me:
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startrekprodigyfan · 1 year
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Hey! To anyone lamenting the end of an era in young adult animation now that The Owl House is winding down and many other good shows have been canceled… I’ve got a suggestion for your next hyper-fixation!
Star Trek: Prodigy on Nickelodeon!
I know, I know, it sounds crazy, but hear me out!
For starters the show is absolutely gorgeous! The 3D animation is the highest quality I’ve seen for animated kids shows ever. There’s a lot of expressive details and every character is unique and quirky.
Then there’s the story. In the tradition of Avatar and Legend of Korra, Prodigy gets dark really quickly and has some incredibly mature storytelling. The premise is a bunch of alien teens enslaved on a mining asteroid stumble upon a Star Trek ship and use it to escape! The show literally begins with child slavery and it does not shy away from the dark consequences of this opening premise! Lots of emotional trauma to deal with! ❤️
If you’re thinking “I don’t know anything about Star Trek” then you’re in luck! the show is designed as a gateway into the fandom, so you’ll be introduced to the Trek world slowly and carefully! And if you’re thinking “I love Star Trek” then good news too! The show has tons of Easter eggs and call-backs to prior trek lore and continuity to keep you entertained for months!
It’s such a good show and so few people are talking about it online! I strongly recommend you take a look at it (at least try the first 5 episodes to see if you’re into it).
Please don’t let this show fly under your radar!
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disneywizard · 1 year
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The Best Animated Series of 2022
2022.  Another year of Animation has come and gone, and so it is now time to do the one thing that I do on this site: make my top 10 list. This year should be an interesting mix, since I am allowing myself to put adult animated shows on the list for the first time.  But only if they are exceptional.  While this definitely made making this list harder this year, due to more content, it wasn’t as bad a deluge as I feared.  
Before we unveil the list, I also wanted to give a shout-out to the best thing that happened in 2022: the return of Gargoyles in comic form.  From Dynamite Publishing, written by series creator Greg Weisman.  Gargoyles is my favorite show of all time, it’s the reason I became enamored of Animation in the first place.  So I highly encourage everyone to check the comics out, if you can.  
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And now for the list: Honorable Mentions: Green Eggs and Ham, Dragon Age Absolution, and Paranormal Park were all fantastic shows, I just thought that the following ten series were slightly better.  But all three of these shows ALMOST made the list as I was working on it, so I thought they belonged here.   And without further ado:
10) Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir
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The French Action Adventure show about two superheroes in love with each other continues to go strong for it’s fourth and fifth seasons, which have included some of the best episodes of the show.  
Available on: Netflix (S1-3) Disney+ (S4 & 5*)  
9) Legend of Vox Machina
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Man I wish someone would animate my D&D campaign.  
Available on: Amazon Prime.
8) Kid Cosmic and the Global Heroes!
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Craig McCracken’s amazing superhero show is the first one on this list that officially ended this year, and went out quite strong.  I cried at the end of the series.  Definitely worth a look.
Available on: Netflix
7) Tales of the Jedi
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I’m not much of a Star Wars fan.  It’s hard for me to even care outside of the Rebels series.  But this anthology series was so good, I’d be remiss to exclude it from the list.  
Available on: Disney+
6) The Dragon Prince: The Mystery of Aaravos
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If I’m being honest, TDP was a bit weaker this season than previous showings.  We’ve had a time skip and the characters are now all in different places, which made it a little harder to get back into a groove with them.  But the story was still fantastic and I can’t wait to see how the next 4 seasons unfold.  
5) The Owl House
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Why are you not watching this show?  You definitely SHOULD BE, it’s FANTASTIC.  The top four-through-two shows on this list were, IMO all so good, it was impossible to objectively place them in any order, so I’m listing them by my favorites.
Available on: Disney+  
4) Star Trek: Prodigy
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This show taught me to love Star Trek again.  Everything from the voice work, to the animation, to the story is an absolute treat.  The easter eggs aren’t heavy handed, but will excite you trekkies when you see them, and the plot kept me fully excited and engaged all season long.
Available on: Paramount+
3) Amphibia
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Another show we said goodbye to this year, the series finale had me in tears.  I just love these characters so much.  Everyone should watch this show, especially if they want something more from the property, and the defictionalized Marcy’s Journal hinted at some interesting future possibilities...
Available on: Disney+
2) Jurassic World: Camp Cretaceous
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Another show that we said goodbye to this year, Season 5 was an excellent close to the series, especially following the slightly weaker season 4.  The epilogue hinted at the possibility for further hijinks with these characters, and I hope we get them.  This is my favorite entry in a Movie Franchise that I already love.
Available on: Netflix
1) Young Justice Phantoms
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WOO-HOO!  It’s here!  It’s finally here.  I can finally actually put the show I actually thought was the best of the year on my actual list, instead of just being an “Honorable Mention” like in past years.  This season was an incredible well written roller coaster of character and story arcs, that kept my attention and interest from beginning to end.  I cannot emphasize how good this show.  There was never any question where it was going to fall on my list, unlike the rest of the shows on here.  It was always going to be #1 because it was the best.  Watch it on HBOMAX while you still can, because given what has been happening over there lately, who who knows how long that will be.
Available on: HBOMAX, for now.  
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aniketsanimationblog · 10 months
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Current Animation Fandom: An Angry and Massive Rant!!
Hey, it's me, Aniket!! I am so Sad and Angry and Mad about the last weekend, after the news broke out that Star Trek: Prodigy is Cancelled at Paramount+, and Removing the series on there, and S1 Arc II not returning to premiere on Nickelodeon US!! It was a Heart-wrenching News for all the trekkies and animation fan like me!! Then after that, Petitions are made, DVDs and Blu-rays were sold out, Toy sales were up, despite Yesterday, Paramount+ removed the Series, on the eve of Showtime Merger in US!! But Today, it's also sad day for me, Again!! Because, Today, Paramount Plus removed my Favourite Nick Jr show, which was the best after Oswald ended, Peter Rabbit, among other Nickelodeon shows and Movies!!
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The thing is, now, Nickelodeon don't want us to enjoy the shows that we love!! All they care about is those shows which are successfully Cash-grabbing from the esteemed target demographic audience from age 2-11!! Gone are those days, when people watched and adored Avatar: The Last Airbender!! And Today, I'm Massively Ranting those Corporative Studios like Nickelodeon and most importantly, Current Generation Animation Fans, who are responsible for all these debacles!!
In my 23 Years of Human Life, I have never Encountered a Humiliation from Current-Gen Animation Fandom and those big big Corporative Animation Companies, until the cancellation of Star Trek Prodigy broke out!! And I will tell you, they aren't the Same Animation Fans I know for 23 years or so!! They care about those shows, which are Popular, despite of those shows gone in decline and downfall for last 2 or 3 seasons, not those Gems like Star Trek: Prodigy and all!! And those shows are Cash Cows, back then at first 2 or 3 Seasons, they were good!! But some Money-Greedy Showrunners messed around the lore of their respective series and manipulated the Animation Fandom that this is canon, this is actual canon!! Then the Fans of the shows, blindly believing them, while some of them were frustrated, ended up leaving the fandom of the show he/she/they loved once upon a time!! I'll take Two Shows as Factual Examples!! And Believe me, these fandom of those shows are toxic and they do not care about other shows!! Troll me hard if you want, criticise me if you want, but all of them are Facts, you cannot change that!!
Starting with Very Juvenile one, i.e. TV-Y rated Show, preschoolers show!! You've guessed what I'm talking about!! PAW Patrol!!
This Nick Jr. Show, has now being immensely popular for the toy sales and everything!! It was good for first 2 or 3 seasons, until Spin Master screwed up the series lore for more toys sales and merchandising!! It's going on for 10 years dated back in 2013!! They even produced a theatrical Movie in 2021, namely, PAW Patrol: The Movie, which was decent good, imo. And they even gonna release a sequel of the movie coming in this Fall!! But the condition of the fandom of this very series is not good at all currently!! These are from an Honest PAW Patrol fan's thread tweets in support of this argument!!
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Now, you realised!! Those Fans are Toxic!! And Do I have to remind you about the unnecessary romantic shippings of this series, for example of Chase x Skye etc?? Do I have to??
And that too from a Preschool series, which has a massive fanbase, all over the world!!
And because of PAW Patrol, no other preschoolers series have a chance to get a Spotlight!! Even, Bluey have got comparatively slightly lower fanbase than PAW Patrol fanbase!! Is it just unfair or not?? And because of PAW Patrol, other Nick Jr shows aren't doing well in Viewership, despite of being Good!! They are just booted to lesser known Nick Jr. Channel or just ended the run, that's it!! (And Rubble & Crew, the spinoff of PAW Patrol, isn't my cup of tea, honestly)
And for the Second Instance, while I have to say this, but if I say that show's name, everyone will charge upon me and rip me into pieces!! I know, but who cares!! That is Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir!!
And I know, as you reach it there, you're now just ripping me in pieces! But lemme explain!!
This French Animated Series was good for 2 seasons!! It had the same Potential as I had with Star Trek: Prodigy!! But, the Showrunners, Especially that Egoistic Thomas Astruc (I have dare to say him that, because he blocked me on Twitter more than a year ago) destroyed this series for nothing!! He doesn't know what he's doing!! He's leading to destroy the lore, he wants nothing but your money through Merch sales, just like PAW Patrol is doing!!
And the fandom of this series is as toxic as hell!! They are blindly following this series, despite not knowing what's going wrong with the series!! Because of them and Thomas Astruc, just like PAW Patrol, other shows, in TV-Y7 rated Shows, especially, can't get any chance to shine!! If you observe the data of Nielsen Ratings for US television, Miraculous Ladybug and PAW Patrol were among those shows to have much bigger audience!! But not other shows, especially once dominating SpongeBob SquarePants on Nickelodeon!! Speaking of Nickelodeon, I wanna state that Miraculous Ladybug is not a Disney Channel Show, it's a Nickelodeon Show, just sub-licensed to Disney Channel in order to save SpongeBob, because Nickelodeon US and TFOU by TF1 in France (the original broadcaster of Miraculous Ladybug) is having a Tie-up!! It was first aired on Nickelodeon in US!!
Now, for the sake of Animation Gods, is it right for you to compare some egoistic creator, who blocks everyone on Twitter more than the CEO of Twitter, Elon Musk, as "Bigger than Walt Disney" by making a Worldwide Phenomenon?? Because I think it's not right!! Because Miraculous just wasted the potential!! And don't talk me about the Shipping, which is the driving force for this series!! All of the shippings are wasted potential!! And the Story goes on and on for 5+ seasons, there is no resolution, and Thomas Astruc is thinking for going up to 12 seasons!! Why not go for 100 seasons, 50 TV Specials and 10 Movies and beyond, and still have no resolution, huh?? What's the problem?? Just realise, These Fandom aren't letting any other show than Miraculous and PAW Patrol to get the spotlight!!
Miraculous Ladybug and PAW Patrol are now being the reason why I hate this Current Animation Fandom!! This is not the Animation Fandom, I know for 23 years and this is not the Animation media I know for 23 years!! You cannot ignore other shows just to focus on One or Two Popular Animated shows!!
Imagine, being a Tom & Jerry Fan focusing on Tom & Jerry only but not equally treating other cartoons such as Mickey Mouse or Looney Tunes or Animaniacs!! It also applies for vice-versa!!
You know, This Current Animation Fandom don't have any sense, what is a Good Show and what is not!! They only follow the Popular ones whether being good or bad!! They should learn the "Rights and Equality" to Animated Series and Movies, whether they like it or not!!
That's why Velma, being a worst show from Scooby-Doo franchise, renewed and set to premiere for Season 2, but not Star Trek: Prodigy or other gem series!! Same goes for Miraculous Ladybug and PAW Patrol and SpongeBob SquarePants to some extent!! They don't give other shows any bare chance to flourish!!
I don't know, but Star Trek: Prodigy hasn't been canceled by Tax Write-off mainly, tax write-off is part of the reason!! The main reason is that current Animation Fandom's Negligence and irresponsibility to save other series!! And then they will be glad and celebrate themselves, because they have done this horrendous work to cancel other series, which were gems, and call it as their "Major Victory"!!??
This is the same method why, The Owl House got canned by Disney!!
In my opinion, I think the only thing to resolve all this blasphemy, is to STOP supporting animation until things get any better!! This is the only thing I can see to Save Animation as an Artistic Media!! Because Animation is indeed an Artistic Media, not a Financial Media!!
As of now, I'm renouncing as an Animation Fan, until things get better, for a while!!
Because, Animation Industry now have set a rule, that if any series is not getting any appreciation or attention from Animation Audience, not getting into the level of Miraculous Ladybug, PAW Patrol, SpongeBob, The Loud House or Teen Titans Go!, That series will get automatically canned, no matter what!! This is not the Animation Industry/Fandom we want!!
Two months ago, The Owl House got canned, now Star Trek: Prodigy won't be returning for S2 and canned at this moment, this Friday, Bubble Guppies ending it's 12 years long run!! And if we can't take any action right now, your favourite show will be next!!
Be Warned, Be Respective, and Be Responsible!!
2023 is NOT the Best Year for Animated Kids TV Series!! It's Worst!!
I'm Out of here!!
Sorry, for the long Post!! But I want to get it off of my chest!!
Thank you for reading this far!!
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er0dedc0pper · 9 days
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Fei being a better version of Marinette is so funny, I love you my girl but Fei is so fucking cool. Though it’s weird, why do the Miraculous’s even exist? I get their safer or whatever, but I definitely feels like away to separate themselves from their Chinese origin. Anyways, in a perfect world Marinette in their holder and Fei is their other holder and guardian. The Miraculous’s can still exist as embodiments of the French spirit.
Anyways, LadyDragon and Ladybug for the win!
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miraculous-pyromaniac · 11 months
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I have been researching the Chinese bagua and connected martial arts of baguazhang for the past several hours trying to make sense of the Prodigious.
this isnt the first time ive done this either, ive done this many times, none to much avail
the wiki presents the Bagua, which i believe is a Taoist concept about the principals of reality or something. as an inspiration for the animals the user can transform into while using the Prodigious, which makes sense given that in the ending credits a page of Gabriel's research is shown showing some antient paper with a chinese trigram, a common symbol of the bagua, with various animals on each of the sections, thereby establishing our associations
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in this we can see 5 of the 8 animals
the wiki gives us associated animals for the bottom 3 sections that are cut off but i cant find anything to back up these claims
Now there are many different sets of animals associated with the trigram's sections depending on what version of the bagua you're looking at, but the Trigram from Yin style baguazhang, a form of chinese martial art, seems the most similar to the list of animals we get from canon.
from what i can see, whoever at the Zag team made the prodigious either had a faulty source for his info, or took some creative liberties, because somethings just don't line up.
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The monkey is the only thing correct here. tiger and lion are similar enough, as are eagle and pheonix. I don't know where the hell a mantis came from and the bottom three got shuffled by whoever wrote the wiki, im guessing. If it wasn't shuffled, bear would be correct, also horse and unicorn are close enough.
Ok so, random mantis instead of rooster and things got a little shuffled and simplified, but not too bad i guess.
The wiki also tells us what element each animal is associated with. these actually seem accurate other than thunder and mountain being swapped.
If one were to unshuffle the animals and add correct associated elements, the prodigious would have these associations to the elements.
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Also i couldn't find anything about the various values one has to use to have to use the various powers of the Prodigious. The closes thing i found was Japanese bushido but that obviously doesn't make sense to associate bc Chinese and Japanese cultures and believes are very distinct.
anyway none of this matters to the normal miraculous viewer, just nerds and fanfic writers who want to play around with the Prodigious.
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scottpetersen · 1 year
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What Exactly Are The Renlings And What Might Their Exact Origins Be?
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Ok. Here I’ll be going over my thoughts on what the Renlings are and what their exact origins might be based on what was said and shown in the Miraculous Shanghai TV special and also based on information from the rest of the Miraculous franchise’s lore and on real life philosophies. Also, Spoiler Alert for the Miraculous Shanghai TV special, the Miraculous Adventures comics. With that out of the way, let’s dive right in.
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As stated in the Miraculous Shanghai TV special, the Renlings are beings that embody human values. That means that the Renlings were also born from human values. This makes the Renlings different from the Kwamis, beings that are born from and embody abstract concepts. And since abstract concepts are from beyond the physical realm and human values came from the ideas of humans and, by extension, the physical realm, that means that the Kwamis came from something that’s beyond the physical realm and the Renlings came from something that’s from the physical realm.
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All of that got me thinking on how exactly the powers that the Renlings give to the wielder of The Prodigious work compared to how the powers the Kwamis give to the wielders of the Miraculouses do. I noticed a pattern on the powers of The Prodigious and the powers of the Miraculouses. They both are at least somewhat related to animals. Another thing I noticed was that whereas the Miraculouses give the wielder relatively more magical powers that symbolize animals in a certain way, The Prodigious gives the wielder relatively more physical powers that turns the wielder into an animal and thus gives them the physical attributes of said animal if the wielder embodies the human value of the Renling in question. Here’s a couple of examples. The Turtle Miraculous allows the wielder to create a magical stinger barrier that helps protect against anything that comes its way which is most likely a nod to the fact that turtles have protective shells and Xiong Xiong, the Renling of Calmness who also somewhat resembles a bear, allows the wielder to turn into an actual bear. All of this means that whereas the Miraculouses and by extension the Kwamis take the quality of a physical creature and represent it with something that’s pure magic and by extension non-physical, The Prodigious and by extension the Renlings take something that’s non-physical and represent it with something that’s physical. I think this is somewhat of a nod to the fact that the Renlings represent different kinds of concepts than what the Kwamis represent.
But I also found it strange considering that the Kwamis represent abstract concepts which are non-physical and Renlings represent human values which are byproducts of the physical brain. Then, it occurred to me that it’s probably a nod to the real life philosophy that duality is an illusion when you really think about it. Particularly, the way that the duality between the non-physical realm of the abstract concepts and the physical realm of physical phenomena is just an illusion thus making them one and the same. This would also make the abstract concepts and the physical phenomena intertwined. Here’s a couple examples to demonstrate this. The abstract concept of teleportation that brought the Kwami Kaalki, the Kwami connected to the Horse Miraculous, into existence did allow the physical phenomena of moving from one place to another to occur since teleportation is also about going from Point A to Point B. But the same goes both ways. The abstract concept of teleportation would never have come into existence if the physical phenomena of moving from one place to another never happened since moving from one place to another is kinda the same as disappearing from one place and reappearing in another which is what teleportation is all about. That makes the non-physical realm’s abstract concept of teleportation a byproduct of its physical counterpart as well as vice versa. And since they both came from each other, they’re one and the same. Also, the way that the non-physical realm’s abstract concept of teleportation probably also a nod to how the Horse Miraculous takes the way a physical horse can help move people and things from one place to another and represents it with its power to create portals that lead from one place to another. Meanwhile, the human value of honor, which is technically a byproduct of peoples’ physical brains, that brought the Renling Ma Ma into existence did allow honor to become a non-physical and unkillable idea that went on to become a tenet in many organizations. But that non-physical idea of honor also went on to motivate some of the people of the physical realm to fulfill their duty, hold their end of the bargain, etc. That makes the non-physical idea of honor a byproduct of the physical brains of people as well as also making some of the people’s motivation in the physical realm a byproduct of the non-physical idea of honor. It’s probably also a nod to how The Prodigious takes the non-physical idea of honor and represents it with a physical horse, a creature that transports people and things which my sister pointed out to me is a honorable thing to do. And since they both came from each other, they’re one and the same.
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Also, another thing I noticed is that all of the human values that the Renlings represent center around open-minded in some way and that could also relate to how exactly the Renlings first came into existence. I’ll mainly be using positive emotions and negative emotions as the example to help explain this. The Renling Xiong Xiong represents the human value of calmness. And calmness is open-minded because you can feel calm whether you’re feeling positive emotions or negative emotions. You can obviously feel calm while feeling emotions like hope and love because of the happiness they can bring. But you can also feel calm while feeling negative emotions like fear, greed and rage because you can find “the eye in the storm” in the center of them and thus feel calm even while feeling those negative emotions. Take something like cold anger for example. With cold anger, you can feel rage while also directing it in a calm manner. Then, there’s the Renling Tang Tang who represents the human value of patience. You can be patient whether you’re feeling positive emotions or negative emotions. Someone can feel patient for someone else because of their love and/or hope for them. But someone can also be patient by taking their time through carefully calculating the best tactical way to escape someone or something that they’re afraid of, patiently waiting for their the thing that they greedily want to be delivered to them or patiently taking the long run in order to seek rage-filled revenge against those that wronged them. Now, there’s the Renling She She who represents the human value of courage. Courage is all about bravery. And it doesn’t take a genius to know that you can be brave whether it’s because you’re inspired by your optimism or hardened by your pessimism. Next, there’s the Renling Ma Ma who represents the human value of honor. I’m gonna drift off-topic for a minute here. I realized honor is flexible thanks to a YouTube video called Lantern Corps Oaths by a YouTuber called Blitzscreek Productions. The Lantern Corps are organizations with Lantern Rings which are powered by different emotions. Anyway, in that YouTube video, they put in a fan-made type of Lantern called the Spectrum Lantern which Blitzscreek Productions credited to a DeviantArt user called NickLD. The Spectrum Lantern, who was wielding all the different lights of the Emotional Spectrum, had power that was apparently powered by honor. I’m gonna get back on topic now. It made sense to me because one of the things that honor is about respecting and holding true to one’s own beliefs. And said beliefs can include beliefs that emphasize feeling positive emotions or beliefs that emphasize feeling negative emotions. Additionally, there’s the Renling Hou Hou who represents the human value of compassion. Compassion is about empathizing and feeling for others. That can include others’ positive emotions and their negative emotions. Then, there’s the Renling Ying Ying who represents the human value of confidence. It doesn’t take a genius to know that one can feel immense confidence when it comes to acting on their positive emotions or on their negative emotions. Next, there’s the Renling Hu Hu who represents discipline. And people do use the discipline that comes with meditation and other practices to help balance their positive emotions and negative emotions.
Finally, there’s Long Long who represents the human value of Justice. I think the reason why Long Long is a Renling who has the ability to help turn the wielder of The Prodigious into a mythical animal that can control the elements whereas all the other Renlings only help turn the wielder into normal animals is because unlike the other human values, pure Justice is a combination of both of those 2 things. I believe Justice is a balance between mercy and vengeance. It’s being open-minded to the both of them. After all, Justice is about giving someone whatever mercy and/or vengeance they deserve. Also, in my mind, Justice (at least in its purest form) is the penultimate example when it comes to open-mindedness because it has the qualities of all the other human values. After all, Justice is about quite a few things including being calm in order to judge someone in a collected manner, being patient in order to find all the evidence rather than jump to conclusions, being courageous in order to exact Justice on someone you’re afraid of, being compassionate in order to help someone who deserves said help, being confident in order to say a case you’re announcing to the people as clearly as possible without hesitation, being honorable in order to honor Justice to the absolute best of your abilities and having discipline in order to respect Justice’s key principles of fairness. In other words, Justice is all the other human values combined into one. And I think this also indicates exactly how exactly the Renlings came into existence.
I know that it probably seems like Long Long was the first Renling who came into existence since the symbol of the animal Long Long turns the wielder of The Prodigious into is on the center of The Prodigious. It is how it worked with the Kwamis of the Chinese Miracle Box with the Ladybug Miraculous and the Black Cat Miraculous being in the center of the Chinese Miracle Box and, according to Miraculous Adventures #2, Tikki, the Kwami connected to the Ladybug Miraculous, was the first Kwami of the Chinese Miracle Box to come into existence. And Plagg, the Kwami connected to the Black Cat Miraculous, most likely followed shortly thereafter with the rest of the Kwamis of the Chinese Miracle Box following suit afterwards. But I think it was the exact opposite for the Renlings because human values that created the Renlings work differently than the abstract concepts that created the Kwamis. Abstract concepts are more concrete and less malleable since they’re things connected to the laws to the cosmos as a whole. And the way the cosmos as a whole functions is always determined by the laws of physics and nothing else. It makes it so that the cosmos is always on a certain path. And the abstract concepts work the same way. For example, the abstract concept of creation is always just creation since creation is always creation whether it’s a block of ice that’s created or a piece of wood. This made it so that the abstract concepts always had a center and thus an “eye in the storm” right from the start. But human values are connected to human sentience. And humans are always prone to things like ignorance and making mistakes. So, we’re always on an uncertain path. This means that we didn’t have a center or an “eye of the storm” right from the start. That means that whereas the abstract concepts started from the center and then branched out, the human values and by extension the Renlings started from the outside and then went into the center. So, by that logic, Long Long was the last Renling to come into existence rather than the first. On the next paragraph, I’m gonna explain what kinds of events in human evolution caused the Renlings to come into existence.
After the abstract concepts that created the Kwamis came into existence, it meant that all the components that make up existence were put together too. Then, life, namely humans, started becoming more sentient to the point that they started forming more complex ideas. And in order to think up anything, especially something that’s new, you have to have at least have some confidence in your intelligence. So, the Renling Ying Ying came into existence first when humans gained confidence in their intelligence. It was probably when people got confident in their intelligence and started thinking up ideas for the tools they would later use. I think She She came into existence next when humans became courageous enough to use fire to their advantage despite them probably being afraid of it at first. I think Hu Hu came into existence after that because it takes discipline to find ways to use something to one’s advantage. I think Xiong Xiong came into existence afterwards when people learned to be calm and more reserved with how they act. I think Tang Tang came into existence immediately after Xiong Xiong because being calm and reserved with how one acts does make way for patiently waiting for the right time to let down your reserved guard and act. I think Hou Hou came into existence next when people got more compassionate and learned to feel for the emotions of others. I think Ma Ma came into existence afterwards when people started honoring certain belief systems. And finally, Long Long came into existence when some people started finding a middle ground between all the other human values and tried to bring pure Justice to the world by helping the innocent and punishing the wicked without any form of bias or close-mindedness getting in the way. I believe another reason why Long Long came into existence last was because what I just described is exceedingly difficult for quite a lot of people to do. So, it takes some time for any human to work their way towards that part and it’s not guaranteed to last since a lot of people can only keep that up for so long.
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One last thing I want to go over here is why the Renlings aren’t able to be seen by anyone aside from the wielder of The Prodigious whereas the Kwamis are able to be seen by people aside from their Miraculous’ wielder. Like I pointed out earlier in this post, the abstract concepts that created the Kwamis are more concrete and less malleable than the human values that created the Renlings. So, each of the Kwamis are grounded in one single solid concept. So, with the help of the magic that bonded the Kwamis to the Miraculouses in the first place, this allowed the Kwamis’ forms to be isolated to one single shape that anyone can see. But for the Renlings, it’s different. According to the YouTuber The Imaginery Axis on his Darkseid is NOT a God… He’s WORSE! YouTube video, the physical realm might as well not exist compared to the abstract concepts. And since the abstract concepts pretty much make up the physical realm and the Renlings are born from human values which are made by a human’s physical brain, that probably means that the Renlings exist in some sort of plane of unreality that can’t be seen by physical beings. So, the Renlings’ forms couldn’t be isolated into one single shape for anyone except for the person who is wearing The Prodigious, the thing that’s harnessing the Renlings’ power.
Well, that’s all for this post.
See you all next time.
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crizztelcb · 2 years
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I learned the prodigious are stronger than the miraculous and I can't disagree more about it!
Don't take this as Shanghai salt because it isn't! I love the Shanghai special and the renrens/prodigious etc!
Is just me ranting over something thats is basically useless for ml story telling XD
The renrens/prodigious are the same as kwamis/miraculous but somehow they get called stronger? Stronger then even destruction and creation?
First of all are renrens more powerful than kwamis? I still don't comprehend they existence, by the way they don't seem any different than any other kwami and they work basically the same unless the said dragon power is more powerful and ehhhh that's not a good excuse, they literally have creation and destruction and they are the base for all powers in the world! Is it because the prodigious gives you more powers? Which ok but all the others are not given any shown on being really more powerful than any normal miraculous, literally the only powerful is the dragon and yet the only difference between the dragon miraculous and the prodigious is the shape-shifting and that for what we know the powers are not so limited but you still need to work through to be able to use that power.
And then theres the creation of the miraculous how makes no sense at all, is that blue lion (I'm awful with names sorry) a renren too? If yes than he looks and acts much more powerful than the protected renrens themselves, I'm not dismissing the renrens i like them i think their designs are the cutest especially the snake and the prayingmantris and I do LOVE shape-shifting (although I would also love half transformed visuals but ok) but they being put in a high rank and nothing is shown to prove it makes me very annoyed especially that in my head there's nothing stronger than creation and destruction they are as I said before the core of everything!
I made a full rant on this sorry! 😅 but if something is suppose to be powerful show me it better, chat noir using his power just on a piece of metal was enough for me to go "oh shit he can kill something with his hands if he wants to!" But the renrens are normal by the way they show them and I would be fine if it was more of a "they are a different creature how looks alike to kwamis but works a bit different like the kwamis they are also powerful so guardians keep it safe" like there's no need to say they are super powerful and put a guardian taking care of them to show something because it was the same with the miraculous! There's no difference, that's it, no difference is made between them to give me powerful feelings over them.
They are cool, they are interesting and they are charming! they just don't have a good difference from what we already got but they get credit for something that was never shown true.
I do wish that if lady dragon does get an spinoff they show more and they give me more background information, I love their idea but I can't take them as more powerful than kwamis.
Also idk why I care about the comics I literally just should scrap the comic out. Also pls don't Sal on this, but you are free to refute anything I said and I would in fact appreciate it.
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imthepunchlord · 7 months
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So based off this poll, decided to do some exploring the what if of no yin-yang duo, but Wu Xing instead most powerful and you must gather the 5 to make that world altering Wish. And man, it just works soooo much nicer in set up.
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Cause working off the flow of Wu Xing and the control system in place, it works off what is canon very well.
By set up, no matter what element they are, Ladybug and Cat are set to have the edge over Butterfly, which works for them to be sent out to deal with it. Ladybug is also set to have the edge over Butterfly and Cat.
And Peacock is set to have the edge over Ladybug and Cat, really stressing it to be the bigger threat and more dangerous one for the two to face, which could've worked for Peacock coming later as a bigger threat to Butterfly.
So, I think this set up of Wu Xing as most powerful would've gone a looot better than how they went about things. Especially since this sets the 5 to all be equals in power, so makes sense for Butterfly to be OP and you're not scratching your head on how it is when LB and Cat are supposed to be the "two most powerful".
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