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3, 9, 10, and 49 for Grima?

Two Grima anons!! Because you all are amazing and know me and the way to my heart

3. Obscure headcanon

Honestly, I feel like I've talked enough about Grima that all my headcanons have been exhausted in the "Grima Thoughts" tag and the "Grima Wormtongue" tag more broadly on my tumblr.

I suppose one that I've never voice too much, and haven't played with (YET. GET READY.**) is that I headcanon him as distinctly Not Cis but he's very convoluted and vague about what that means. The whole seidr aspect I read onto him adds different layers to how you can interpret that, especially given some views that seidr-working might have been viewed as an alternative gender, or an additional aspect to gender, or something in that ballpark of being different from man and woman.

I just enjoy that, aside from Eowyn, he is one of the characters you can make the strongest argument for being Outside the Gender Norms of Their Respective Society. This makes me very pleased and happy.

Grima just wants to be queen. Let him be one!!

**this only applies to people reading What Makes a King

9. Scene that first made me love (or hate) the character

For the movies it was the tear-drop scene in TTT after Saruman sends the uruk-hai off to Helms Deep. So much regret and realization of the scope of the impact of his actions captured in a single emotional moment. And it's fleeting! But so well done. No words are needed. Just dawning horror and that stomach-dropping-out-from-your-body feeling of What The Fuck Have I Done - This Was Not How It Was Supposed To Go.

In the books it's 100% when Grima is sassing back at Treebeard. He is Peak Drowned Rat and a GIANT TREE is telling him: You need to go to Orthanc. It's voer there.

And Grima. Who has been on a horse for two days straight, riding through the night, and probbaly hasn't eaten in 48h, and is now stinking soaking wet becuase Treebeard dropped him in the muck and mire of the waters around Orthanc. That man. That man looks at the Giant Tree, the stuff of childhood legends in Rohan, and his instinctual reaction is to be the sassiest most lie-filled bitch on the planet.

What the fuck Grima.

Grima: Well, since you don't think I was here on behalf of Theoden which was My Quickly Thought Up Plan Because I DID NOT Expect This. I will now just be super sassy at you as my fall back. Seems reasonable.

Tree Beard: ????

Love that deranged bastard so much.

Grima: [sees a being way, way more powerful than him. Gandalf, Treebeard, whatever] What if I just said some sick burns and was a petty bitch for fifteen minutes??

Eomer: . .... ..,, , as a treat?

Grima: As a treat!!

10. Best moment on screen (or in the book)

I loved his seduction scene in the film. That whole speech is masterfully rendered by Brad Dourif and Miranda Otto is also fantastic in that scene. Seeing her tempted, truly tempted, then pulling back like: nope, nope, nope, I can't. Grima's face when she leaves. Absolutely phenomenal.

I also love the "These Men Don't Know What Personal Space Is" scene with Eomer.

Nothing to see here. Move along everyone.

In the book, the best scene is everything in the Scouring of Shire. The wanting to take Frodo's offer of a helping hand. The desperation for that salvation from himself and the situation he is in - yet, he is so trapped in whatever it is he feels for Saruman. That quasi-enslaved state by the time we get to the end of ROTK. It's so fucked up and such a fantastic representation of the push/pull of abusive situations. I want out/I can't leave/I can see a future/I can't see a future. So well done.

(And I think Saruman-Grima dynamic is something Tolkien didn't know he had - at least in terms of the potential that is in it.)

While I have gone on before about Grima's death being a let-down in terms of thematic satisfaction, I do love, love, love that he gets to kill Saruman. He gets to put the knife in Saruman's back. That is so fantastic as a full circle of all the traitors betraying each other. ALSO, of course, Grima gets to kill the man who has spent the last eleven months torturing him for shits and giggles. We love to see it.

16. Deepest darkest secret they won’t even admit to themselves

I think Grima is very afraid to look at a lot of things about himself. He cannot look into the mirror straight-on. All truths about himself have to be captured in peripheral vision - which is to say, only ever faintly brushed against.

I don't know what the darkest secret is that he can't admit to himself. I suspect, for him, it's several. He's done so much harm in his life, and he's been also denied so much too, and wants so much, and has broken so much - it's all a tangled mess.

I think for Grima, what drives a lot of his actions post-Helm's Deep is a two-fold sunk-cost fallacy (that's the thing he can't admit to himself - it's not all lost. He can and should walk away. "If it's shit, hit the bricks" was not something he ever learned) and the inability to be able to see a life outside of Saruman. A path away from Orthanc. (Granted, no one was being helpful in that regard until Frodo. Literally no one. Not in any meaningful capacity.)

24. Most annoying habit

Maybe stop stealing things from people?

Probably, though, the sycophancy. The whole "oh my lord" this and "a wise/brilliant thing you said my lord" that. Ugh. Miss me with the verbal dick-sucking there, Grima.

I get why he does it. I 100% understand. I still find it grating. This is something, I will say, that turns up in fanfics more than canon. I've written it, myself, because it works for his character! It's what he would do! It makes sense post-Saruman that he would be like this! If he wasn't it would be weird! But my god Grima, get a spine and a sense of self-worth!

(Grima: shall not.)

For proper canon things, we don't really see enough of him to have specific habits to pick on. Because frankly, I find his thieving delightful and funny, if not a little whimsical. In fact, he should do more. Steal more things! Steal more things!

(Grima: Shall!!! Right now!!)

32. Something guaranteed to make them smile/laugh

Scathing commentary on people he hates. This man is a gossip and a first-class professional Bitcher. He can bitch with the best of them. Hearing dirty things about people makes him so happy.

Also, I think he likes word play and clever jokes. Riddling games and the like, especially ones that are terribly, terribly clever are near-guaranteed to make him smile.

I don't know that he laughs all that much. I think he does that snort/exhale as a form of "laughing" but I don't think he does full on laughing. Save very rarely, and I think it's a shockingly warm sound for someone who is a walking glacier in many respects.

49. Favorite toy as a child

Oh gods. This is hands down the toughest question. If only becuase I have only ever envisioned Grima's childhood as fairly toyless. But he would have had toys - even in the bleakest versions he would have had toys.

I can see little Grima, as a four/five/six year old, being partial to a small, carved cow. He likes the gentle eyes and is familiar with cattle and they smell like home. I can see him also having a small wagon as a boy and he would go out to a small copse and pretend to be a runaway who has joined up with a band of robbers or highway men. In the wagon he'd pack food and water and such, also his bow and a small knife.

Practicing a quick get-away since he was eight.

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Thank you both so much! <3 <3 <3 This got long but 0 regrets. Grima deserves it.

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a-hobbit-snorting-coffee-grinds · 4 years

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My Modern LotR AU Headcanons

Saw these floating around and wanted to give this a go :) Basing my ideas from both the books and films lol.

Gandalf

High school science teacher. His classes are known to catch things on fire.

Has illegal fireworks. He’ll launch the ones that go into the air in areas that do not allow it, then proceed to run from the law.

Pyromaniac.

Use to be sophisticated and only smoke pipes, but after meeting Pippin he chain smokes.

He is no longer allowed to be a chaperone on school field trips of any grade level.

Owns 10 flashlights and 20 of those mini key flashlights.

Very thorough in his research, making sure all resources are reliable.

That professor that doesn’t allow Wikipedia as a reliable source.

Aragorn

He still hasn’t washed his hair in two weeks.

He either gets way into politics or doesn’t think twice about them, there is no in between.

Spends most of his money on hospital bills.

City slicker who wants to be a cowboy. Wanna ride the horses and yee-haw.

Probably has seen and can list every cowboy movie in existence

Camps three times a month. And by camping we mean survival mode. No tents, no sleeping bags, just some basic tools.

Surprisingly good motivational speaker.

Legolas

Lives in the woods, but in one of those large fancy cabins. Isolated from the city but is far from being redneck.

Uses a lot of skin care and hair products.

Uses the same make-up palette and refuses to change. Doesn’t need to use it anyways because he’s angelic.

He brought his hair straightener to Aragorn’s survival camping trip.

Dad owns a large and well-known winery.

Mix of sneaky boi to socially awkward.

Seems chill but very competitive at board games. He treats Settles of Catan like it’s a life-or-death situation.

Gimli

Beard makes him mistaken for a redneck

Knows 100 or more ways to kill a man

Big DIY crafting man. Works with wood, metal, you name it.

Legolas has the hair product but Gimli is the ultimate braid master and hair stylist.

Probably believes government conspiracy theories.

He doesn’t know how not to curse.

Beats Legolas at chess every. single. time. Very smug about it.

Has no idea how technology works.

Probably has 20 guns or something.

Boromir

Probably was in the military

Tired & stressed 24/7

Would try to legally adopt Merry and Pippin but can’t cause their parents are not dead. Also Merry recently became a legal adult. Maybe next time for Pippin.

He loves dogs. Has an ex-police German Shepherd who was injured. People thought the dog would be too much of a threat because trauma but Boromir understand. They are very close.

Debates all the time with Aragorn about politics. They never come to an agreement. But they respect each other.

Chugs black coffee like there is no tomorrow.

He and Gimli talk about weapons sometimes.

Obsessed with The Mandalorian

Frodo

Asexual aromantic all the way. But he will kiss his friends on the cheek, offer them hugs. Only to those he is close to though. He’s a very soft gentleman.

Rich kid who inherited his stuff from his cousin Bilbo.

Spends a lot of time in the library. If not, he’ll go on hikes.

Doesn’t like to go to pools or swim because of his parents’ death. Beaches are fine to stay on the sand, but he doesn’t like lakes.

Probably an English major.

Childhood friends with Sam as the Gamgees are family friends.

Has strong feelings about politics but often keeps them to himself.

He and Rosie team up to gently push Sam to do what he wants to do because that boy is such a reserved humble bean.

Sam

Is to take over his family’s gardening business

Was probably homeschooled

Straight because as my friend once stated, “only straight men have 13 kids”

Hates politics

Isn’t allowed to have a gun because he’d shoot anyone who is threat to his friends/family

Probably plays guitar and writes songs, but never shares them because he doesn’t think they’re good. But they are

Plays Animal Crossing on the Switch and has the best garden on there. “It’s not how it works in real life, but I like it :)”

Merry

The man is flirts with everyone but is heteromantic asexual.

An absolute history nerd

Is the “That is not correct. Because according the encyclopedia of the lssspspsps-” vine

He and his cousin Pippin probably committed arson by accident. It’s a long story

He knows more than he lets on

When he’s older, be becomes a cool history professor who probably vapes during his lectures

Writes famous book about the history of weed basically. Second famous is other history books

He and Estella are so sassy back and forth that it’s a wonder how those two got together

Quotes memes 24/7

Pippin

Steals Gandalf’s illegal fireworks

Wii Sports theme music

Both the “I don’t have enough money for chicken nuggets” and the free taco vine.

Loves Merry in storge or philia way because they are cousins.

Screams “nerd” anytime Merry says something history related.

Rich kid with unhealthy addiction to Starbucks.

Why is this child drinking caffeine

Awkward finger guns when complimented

Self-deprecating humor

Will only watch Disney or Dreamworks animated films.

Does two-man show of Shrek with Merry.

Gollum

Florida man

Still runs around in nothing but a thong

Probably hides drugs in his thong.

I’d do more but I think this post is long enough. Maybe I’ll do part 2? Not sure lol

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creative-salem · 7 years

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Creative Spotlight - Lee Roberts aka Mr. Clever

Meet local creative cosplayer and host of the Cosplay Affair... Lee Roberts

Photo by Juarez Films and Photography

Lee Roberts aka Mr. Clever is a cosplayer and custom Funko artist from Salem. They are actively involved in the Cosplay is not Consent: Anti-bullying movement as well as being an admin for Boston Whovians. You can learn more about Lee and their craft at Clockwork Dragon Designs

Their Mr. Clever cosplay has been featured in The Nerdist, The Mary Sue, Nerd Caliber, on BBC America, the BBC affiliate Anglophilia, and was featured in Doctor Who magazine.

Their motto is “Upgrade everyone. Save all the kittens.”

**Tell us a little bit about Mr. Clever**

Mr. Clever is from the Doctor Who episode “Nightmare in Silver” written by my favorite author, Neil Gaiman. He is what happened when the Cyberman tried to take over the Doctor. For those non- Whovians out there, imagine an evil robotic entity that takes over 50% of an alien time traveler’s mind. The beauty and challenge of cosplaying him is the fact that it’s essentially two characters in one. He was sassy, snarky, manic, manipulative and I adored every second he was on screen.

Two Heads Are Better Than None – Nightmare in Silver – Doctor Who – BBC

The Doctor finds Angie and Artie but is partially upgraded into a Cyberman! Sharing the Cybermen’s shared consciousness, the “Cyberiad” gives the Doctor a split personality as both the Doctor and the “Cyber-Planner”, or “Mr Clever” compete for full control…

** You’ve become known for cosplaying this character. Why him?

You know this is the one question people ask me the most and I am never 100% sure what to say. There are so many reasons why Mr. Clever clicked with me. I do remember when I first saw Nightmare in Silver, I lost my mind when he first appeared on screen and knew I had to cosplay that character. I loved his personality: snarky, flirty and suave. Maybe its because I have always loved all things robotic. Maybe it’s because it gave me a chance to make something unique, since I can’t sew which usually is a primary skill as a cosplayer. Maybe its just because he lets me get out of my own way and have fun. I don’t have a solid answer. I had tried other cosplays before and after him, but none of them fit me like he does. When I put on the cyberplanner piece it all just comes together. We just clicked – it was love at first sight.

**What does cosplay mean?**

Cosplay is hard to define, as it means different things to different people. For myself, I’m not cosplaying unless I am in character, not just in costume. Unless I am Mr. Clever.

But the beauty of cosplay is that there is no right or wrong way to do it. For some people putting on a costume and going out for Halloween is cosplaying, and that is totally ok. It’s the fun, the PLAY part of it that is key for most cosplayers.

Imagine your 10-year-old self all over again. What costume did you want to wear? What character did you want to embody so badly? Wonder women? Gandalf? A ninja Turtle? It’s that same passion that makes cosplay fun and rewarding for all ages. Doesn’t matter if you made your costume, bought it at a thrift store or just make props, like me. It’s all about self-expression and fun.

Cosplay is for everyone. And everyone can cosplay. To learn more join Lee and some of our friends from Flying Saucer Pizza for the WHAT IS COSPLAY workshop at Salem Access TV on Friday Feb. 24th

Lee also sent along this AWESOME Ted talk by Adam Savage..

My love letter to cosplay | Adam Savage

Adam Savage makes things and builds experiments, and he uses costumes to add humor, color and clarity to the stories he tells. Tracing his lifelong love of costumes – from a childhood space helmet made of an ice cream tub to a No-Face costume he wore to Comic-Con – Savage explores the world of cosplay and the meaning it creates for its community.

Get tickets to the Cosplay Affair here

The Cosplay Affair

Presented by Creative Salem, the Hawthorne Hotel and Mr. Clever, come enjoy a night of dancing, music and costumes in one of the countries’ most historic ballrooms. Whether you are a Batman, a Time Lord, a Superhero, Alien or an Elf…we welcome all to celebrate costume play with us.

Salem has a HOST of amazing cosplayers that it calls home.. Some of which you will see at the event and some you see on a more regular basis. Cosplay is a pastime to some but also a full/part time job for many as well.. All a part of the equation in how creativity is one of the many driving economic forces in Salem.

Steve the Vampire

Brandon the Shapeshifter

Ice Queen Cosplay

Ivan from Arkham Ghostbusters

Salem Gaslight Batman

Madruga Cosplay

Perseus and Draconis Aeternam Angeli

*****DISCLAIMER:Creative Salem supports creativity in all forms and fully supports anyone letting their “freak flag fly” in any way they choose. We are also a proud supporter of the No Place for Hate committee. Issues of nonacceptance in the cosplay community, as well as issues of consent and safety, were strong factors in us choosing to do the Cosplay Affair and provide a safe space in Salem for cosplayers and fans of cosplay.

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