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sophieinwonderland · 3 months

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Debunking r/DIDcringe "debunking" Endogenic Claims

Cool!

I expect a well thought-out post citing lots of sources to prove their points!

No. There are many studies showing DID is heavily correlated with severe and repeated childhood trauma.

It's theorized this correlation is because DID is caused by trauma, but this hasn't been shown. A causal relationship, even if likely, is difficult to establish as it would technically require children to be traumatized to test.

Luckily, this particular nuance isn't actually a point of debate. Nobody on either side is arguing that DID can't be caused by trauma. I think most people on both sides are in agreement that the relationship is a causal one. (Even if I'm going to be pedantic about how that hasn't been proven.)

But just because a causal relationship may exist doesn't mean that's the only possible cause. To think this risks falling prey to the Fallacy of the Single Cause or Causal Oversimplification.

If you were to run an experiment where you hit people on the arm with a hammer, you can successfully prove being hit with a hammer is a cause of broken bones. But it would be fallacious to conclude that hammers are the only possible cause of broken bones.

Whether you can have DID without trauma is an extremely complex question and theories very often fall prey to the above fallacy.

I will say my personally feelings are that DID is virtually always caused by trauma, but people should be open to the potential for other causes to exist in rare cases.

I wouldn't use the word "prove". What I will say is that multiple experts in the field have acknowledged the existence or at least the possibility of plurality/multiplicity without trauma or a disorder.

It is true that there was one paper that suggested a continuum of multiplicity that ranged from what it called" identity disturbance" to dissociative identity disorder. Although it's worth noting that this same paper referred to DID as a severe form of identity disturbance and places them on a continuum together.

And the claim here that other sources are unreliable is just absurd.

Non-disordered plurality has been acknowledged in the World Health Organization's ICD-11's Boundary with Normality, stating that multiple "distinct identity states" may be present without a disorder.

Likewise, the creators of the Theory of Structural Dissociation have said it's possible hypnosis and mediumship may involve "dissociative parts of the personality" that possess "self-consciousness."

Additionally, the book Transgender Mental Health by Eric Yarbrough has explicitly said you can be plural without a disorder or trauma.

This book was reviewed and published by The American Psychiatric Association.

Notably, there is also no one saying the opposite. There is no academic paper arguing that you can't be plural without a disorder or trauma, or that you need trauma to have multiple "distinct personality states" or anything of the sort. If you look at academic papers, the range is from neutral (this needs to be studied more) to pro (this is a real phenomenon.)

I'm not going to go too far into the appropriation claims beyond saying that Tibetan Buddhism is an open religion, the Dalai Lama has encouraged people of other faiths to use Tibetan Buddhist meditations, and there's no evidence sprul-pa (the practice tulpamancy was based on) was a closed practice.

The appropriation narrative was invented by and pushed by sysmeds, and isn't actually a concern within Buddhist communities. If you want to see this in action, here's a comparison of r/Systemscringe and r/Buddhism opinions on tulpamancy.

The fact that cringe subreddits are way more concerned about the so-called appropriation than actual Buddhist subreddits should be a good indication that this was always more about using Buddhists as a talking point to silence one of the most studied endogenic communities.

As for the whole "DID isn't plural" thing, this is just semantics.

Some DID systems view themselves as parts, others as people. Psychiatrists would say that the whole body makes the person. But there are philosophies that suggest that the ability for dissociated parts to each have their own self-consciousness and agency makes them a person.

When discussing plurality, I personally use the term "agent." It bypasses a lot of these silly semantic arguments over what is or isn't a person. Because whether we're talking about multiple people, dissociated parts, or even spirits, what we're discussing is an experience of multiple agents with their own self-consciousness and and agency.

That's essentially what plurality is.

Multiplicity is an experience of being multiple. Again, the World Health Organization's ICD-11 says you can experiences multiple distinct personality states without a disorder. You do NOT need DID or OSDD to experience multiplicity.

If there's a single peer-reviewed academic source anywhere that claims you it's impossible to be plural without DID or OSDD, you're welcome to provide it.

Additionally, I've been unable to find any studies showing a significant correlation between OSDD-1 without amnesia (what's inaccurately called OSDD-1b) and trauma. It's often presumed to exist, but the evidence isn't there.

As you stated earlier, dissociative amnesia is heavily linked to trauma. If dissociative amnesia is a criteria of DID, then naturally that link would exist there as well. So then, if the multiplicity is caused by trauma, we would need to conduct studies into people with OSDD who have no amnesia to confirm that.

From what I've found, no study of this sort has been conducted.

Finally, this asserts that all multiplicity comes from these disorders. A claim that they fail to support in any way. Because they CAN'T support it.

Because again, all the research studying plurality have affirmed that you can be plural without a dissociative disorder.

Well, That Concludes Another Anti-Endo "Debunking" Post With No Sources!

Wait. That's not entirely true! They do link to this one:

Except it doesn't confirm any of their points, and seems to mostly be added to prevent the automod from removing their post. Like they said, most of this was "from memory."

Meaning they're just regurgitating things they've heard online from unknown sources.

#actually a system #syscourse #multiplicity #sysblr #ableism #sanism #systems #psychiatry #pro endogenic #pro endo #r/systemscringe #systemscringe #reddit #didcringe #r/didcringe #hate group #hate groups

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dysgeographica · 9 months

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dysgeographica is not rare — it’s just rarely discussed.

dysgeographica, sometimes referred to as developmental topographical disorientation, is a neurodevelopmental disability that primarily affects a person’s sense of direction and ability to navigate.

a 2022 study of italian young adults found that 3% of their sample met their criteria for having dysgeographica.

while this is a statistic from one study of one population and there aren’t very many other studies out there that we can compare it with to gauge its overall accuracy, it does give us some idea. so, let’s assume for now that that is accurate and approximately 3% of all people are dysgeographic.

it might sound small, but do you know how much 3% of the population actually is?

3% of the population is…

more than people with red hair.

more than people with green eyes.

roughly equal to autistic people.

one person in a group of 33 people.

six people in a 200 seat lecture hall.

190 students at the average college.

over 25,000 people in new york city.

almost 10 million people in the US.

over 47 million people in the whole world. that’s more than the total amount of people in kenya, the 26th largest country in the world. there are enough of us to have our own country!

to be classified as rare in the US, something has to affect a maximum of 200,000 people in the entire country. the (estimated) number of dysgeographics is 50 times that.

so no — as far as current studies can tell, dysgeographica is not rare!

if it’s not rare, then, why have you probably never heard of it? why are there so few people who know they’re dysgeographic?

because it’s just not being talked about, and it hasn’t been recognized by influential medical organizations or given a place in their official diagnostic guides.

that leaves the vast majority of dysgeographics not knowing why they can’t get around the way other people can or that there’s a name for the way their brains work. some may come up with their own explanations for the things they struggle with, but others will simply assume the people who judged them were right — that they’re just not “smart enough” or not trying hard enough to get it right.

and even those of us who do know we’re dysgeographic will have a hard time finding other people like us or getting access to any of the accommodations or other resources and support we might need.

i, for one, think that’s far too many people being left in the dark about their own neurotype, so let’s talk about it more.

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drowninginthepond · 6 months

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what is 'pedestalling'?

the origins of narcissism and in its more severe case, narcissistic personality disorder, have been widely discussed for a long time. while kohut and kernberg presented us a model of a vulnerable self behind a gradiose facade, brummelman updated it with his origins of narcissism in children study - proving that parental and social overvaluation enforces narcissistic traits at young age.

now what does that mean? does giving your child too much praise create a pathological narcissist? what actually entails "overvaluation"?

there is a fine line between compliments and pedestalling which often isnt obvious to the ones who utilize it. simply said, any situation that looks like this can be considered a form of overvaluation:

(ID: sketch of two stickmen, one is standing on a little pedestal, while the other stands on a much higher pedestal saying "im the best!")

the most important aspect here is the hierarchy and worth imbalance between the two stickmen. one is put on a pedestal above the other, hence the word pedestalling. it is a comparative measure, ones worth can only exist through the others lack of it and vice versa. the act of pedestalling always creates such a scenario and the vast majority of people have been through such experiences themselves, narcissist or not. in contrast, a genuine compliment directly adresses ones good qualities without comparison.

for better understanding, here is a common example relatable to all creators out there:

compliment: "your art is amazing! i love your usage of colors!" pedestalling: "your art is genius. i could never draw something like this."

notice how the latter is creating a comparative situation between the creator and themselves. by putting themselves below the creator, they also overvalue them - and paint an untouchable image of them. most people find such comments insufferable for good reason, someone with a personality disorder however might be dependent on such hierarchial situations and identifies with them.

while this example was a light and common scenario, as with everything in the world: the dosis makes the poison.

when pedestalling gets harmful

to create a personality disorder, the situation has to escalate to a traumatic degree, often also paired with other emotional issues. such situations may include: uncontrolled childhood fame, being the extension of another family members narcissism, academic or other highly competitive environments, growing up as a gifted child, abusive/stressful familiar or social rivalries, having a disability (especially related to the savant image), and many more. situations like these enforce the development of narcissistic traits/make one more likely to develop a personality disorder, but of course dont guarantee it.

all of these share the same key aspect: being put on a pedestal. experiencing situations like these over and over again to the point of them shaping all of your interactions with others and in crucial developmental phases can easily lead you down the pathological road. children who get overvalued by their environment develop their self esteem around being superior to their peers instead of a healthy perspective that acknowledges their and others strengths and weaknesses in an equal manner.

how to avoid casual pedestalling

the act of overvaluing someone can have a lot of reasons. this can range from forms of ableism, over systematic competitive structures, to idealization and projection, and on and on. explaining all that goes beyond the scope, so i will get back to my inital example above.

"your art is genius. i could never draw something like this."

pedestalling other people is often a defense mechanism to protect ones self esteem. it comes from a place of low self worth: the others achievements seem superior, ungraspable to oneself. it is a depressive-resignative perspective to a percieved threat and the ensuing feelings of insecurity and jealousy. by putting the other on a pedestal and painting them as "not one of their own" (calling them a genius, savant, naturally talented or similar terms referring to an intrinsic otherness), they are exiled from competition and no longer serve as a threat. additionally the comment may act as a form of comfort-seeking. if you deal with a low self worth it is important to recognize such defenses in yourself to not accidentally harm others on the go.

on the flipside, its important for the pedestalled to draw boundaries around such behavior and to not identify with the others defenses too much. while getting painted as intrinsically superior is flattering, there is still an alienating message underneath. forced hierarchial situations like these can be adressed with the other and put to a halt.

outlook and social taboo

many concepts surrounding narcissism (pathological or not) are still considered a social taboo. addressing narcissistic traits in yourself and with others can be seen as arrogant, entitled or whiny. they are however a normal part of human psychology and embed in everyones brains and behavior to a different degree. if you have suffered under overvaluation, its worthy to be acknowledged and treated much like every other issue.

#everyone may reblog and relate to this btw #i drew this image on my trackpad with ms paint i felt like a professor drawing on the board going soo im not an artist...#npd #narcissistic personality disorder #cluster b #actuallynpd #mental health

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djuvlipen · 10 months

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Studies from 2016 show that at least 15% of Roma people have a disability, amounting to over 1.6 million people between the European Union, the Western Balkans and Turkey. The available data highlights a high prevalence of disabilities among Roma communities, also due to the health inequality gap and poorer health condition of the Roma population. However, the information on Roma with disabilities is very limited.

To gain a better understanding of the discrimination and social exclusion that Roma with disabilities face in Europe, we have conducted a research study based on the data collected by the EU Agency on Fundamental Rights (FRA) and the research from the European Roma Grassroots Organisation (ERGO) Network. The outcomes and analysis are published in a joint EDF-ERGO Network briefing on discrimination and social exclusion of Roma with disabilities.

The briefing highlights a comparatively high risk of intersectional and multiple discrimination for Roma with disabilities, with the disability marginalisation adding to the systemic racial discrimination and antigypsyism that keeps them at the margins of society. Discrimination affects their access to basic services such as inclusive education, healthcare and long-term care, their integration into the job market and, in turn, their overall socio-economic condition.

Findings

Available data clearly show that Roma with disabilities encounter more obstacles than the average to complete quality education, 81% of them dropping out of education early. Early school abandonment and inequalities in educational outcomes are partly encouraged by the bullying and harassment that young Roma people with disabilities endure in school settings and that, according to the FRA, affect 27% of them, as well as by a general trend to falsely diagnose Roma children with developmental and learning disabilities, leading them to be placed in segregated schools with reduced curricula.

As a result of the low average educational attainment, young Roma with disabilities encounter numerous issues entering the labour market. Within the age bracket 16-24, 63% of Roma with disabilities is neither in education, employment or training – with the percentage raising to 84% for the people of the same age with high support needs. The situation is further worsened by discrimination during job search and on the workplace: many respondents claimed to have felt discriminated against when looking for a job, largely because of being Roma.

The limited access to education, lower access to employment, and unequal access to social protection make so that Roma with disabilities stand an exponentially higher chance of living below the poverty line: 82% of persons with disabilities with moderate support needs, and 90% with high support needs, are at risk of poverty. The marginalisation of Roma with disabilities also reflects on their access to the housing market: inability to pay rent and anti-Roma discrimination when looking for housing are part of the reason why 55% of Roma with disabilities experience housing deprivation and 75% live in overcrowded housing.

The Roma experience an overall poorer state of health than the majority of the population, with a higher prevalence of chronic illnesses and a lower life expectancy. Deterring them from accessing healthcare and long-term care are not only the high cost of treatments and the lack of information, but also discriminatory attitudes informed by antigypsyism. The ethnic discrimination intensifies for those with some form of disability: 18% of Roma with disabilities with moderate support needs and 17% of Roma with disabilities with high support needs felt discriminated against in accessing healthcare, compared to 12% of Roma without disabilities. It is also important to note that the inaccessibility of healthcare system and healthcare services create another discriminatory barrier for Roma with disabilities.

Conclusions

While some of the issues highlighted in our briefing could be addressed by separate Roma and disability policies, the current legal framework adopted by the EU does not offer a comprehensive protection for people facing intersectional and multiple discrimination, e.g. on grounds of ethnic discrimination and disability. Because of this, Roma with disabilities are left with limited protection of their rights and limited legal remedies to respond to their marginalisation.

We therefore, together with ERGO Network, recommend the EU and Member States to adopt targeted actions, in particular:

Increase the visibility of Roma with disabilities and address policy gaps at the European and national levels

Adopt a comprehensive EU equality law to prohibit intersectional and multiple forms of discrimination

Collect equality disaggregated data on people living in institutions in the EU;

Invest in housing first initiatives and targeted outreach measures to improve access to healthcare and long-term care services for Roma with disabilities;

Involve Roma with disabilities and their representative organisations in designing, implementing and monitoring policies that affect them.

#disability month #disability pride month #roma #education #housing #workplace #segregation #ableism #anti roma racism #Romani people and disability #racialized poverty

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orthopoogle · 7 months

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I just wish the “Breast is best!!!” “Fed is bare minimum!!!” “You’re lazy if you don’t breastfeed!!!” lactivists would realize four things:

1. Studies that show breastfed babies grow up to be smarter and healthier than formula babies are biased and don’t account for other factors such as wealth, mother’s education level, hours the mother works or doesn’t work outside of the house per week, etc. Studies that compare between siblings who are exclusively breastfed and exclusively formula-fed and thus growing up otherwise under the exact same conditions show there isn’t a developmental or health difference between the two. At most, formula babies are slightly more likely to get ear infections or rashes, but that’s nothing compared to some people’s fears of formula-fed babies getting deadly strains of the flu or whatever.

2. The whole idea that a “good mother” should be exclusively breastfeeding her baby is a very privileged take. Not every mom can produce enough milk supply no matter what she tries. A lot—if not most—moms these days can’t afford the luxury of staying home all day with the baby and offering the breast for feeds, and despite anti-discrimination laws surrounding the right to pump at work, many workplaces still don’t provide adequate accommodations for pumping, leading many working moms to feel there’s no choice but to just throw in the towel and switch to formula.

3. Baby formula—in the US, anyway, I don’t know about how it is in other countries—is tightly regulated, meaning every single brand sold on store shelves is required to provide specific nutrients in specific amounts, and the recipes are designed to nutritionally resemble breastmilk as closely as possible. Even the moms who decide to formula feed for no reason other than, “I just don’t feel like breastfeeding,” are ensuring their babies receive all the nutrients they need to grow. No one is neglecting their child solely based on how they choose to feed when the choice is between breast and formula.

4. A more minor point, but on the “Formula moms are lazy!!!” take, there ain’t no way you’re telling me a continuous cycle of feeding the baby and cleaning/sterilizing the bottles is “laziness,” nor is having to lug around formula and bottled water and bottles ready to use when you’re out and about with the baby. Just…get real for a second, lmao.

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jackhues · 3 months

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meet rowan (pricey shots and brick wolls au!)

rowan price, niece of nhl goaltender carey price, was born on october 24th, 1998 to carey price's older brother noah price (oc) and his wife of the time, anna price.

pre-rowan notes:

noah price is the older brother of carey price by ten years, making him 46 years old at the start of this au. he was born in vancouver, b.c., and began playing hockey since he could walk. he loved all positions, but he usually played forward. there were a few years where he had to play defense, and he was okay at it. because of that, he missed some of his developmental years, and wasn't good enough to be a professional hockey player (he was good at forward, he could play defense, but he didn't have anything he excelled that)

noah tried to be very present in his siblings' lives because he was much older than them and he was scared to miss out on their lives. carey looked up to him a lot growing up.

noah and anna met in high school, married soon after, and had rowan at around 21/22. she has three little brothers: jadon (2 years younger than her), harley (4 years younger than her), and riley (8 years younger than her).

rowan notes

rowan moved to montreal when she was really young, when her uncle began playing for montreal, because her dad decided to follow him there. they went back to b.c. for the summers, but she went to school in montreal and can speak french fluently.

she gets along very well with her uncle carey, he's about 11 years older than her. she grew up shooting pucks against him, which they both say made them better players (carey says she's an excellent shooter, and rowan says he's the best goalie)

she grew up playing center, and can play wing, but prefers center (she likes faceoffs). rowan became well known for being carey price's niece when she was around 10 years old. everyone thought she was going to be the next best goalie, until they realized she played center, which threw them for a loop.

but then her stats were released, and media began reporting the next greatest female hockey player. she was being compared to hayley wickenheiser, marie-philip poulin - even players like ovi, with the way her shot and quick release was. she kept her socials private (still has those accounts) and made specific public accounts to share with the public.

she went viral on tiktok, becoming a sort of influencer on instagram/tiktok by the time she was 20/21.

at 19 years old, she was invited to team canada's hockey camp for the pyeongchang 2018 winter olympics and made the roster as the youngest player on the team. she scored 8 goals in total, one hat-trick, and had four assists. she ended the olympics having the most points in the tournament, but team canada fell short to the u.s. in the finals.

after finishing high school, she began studying at uoft, playing for their women's hockey team. she was also playing professionally for the toronto furies for two years while studying because it was the only thing she could do. after the cwhl failed, when she was 20, she ended up signing a contract with the toronto six. she continued her studies at uoft and played for the varsity blues as well.

some said it was a lot of hockey, but rowan was scared to drop any of it - just in case women's hockey stopped being a thing one day.

she called her uncle a lot during that time, talking about her fears for her future in hockey. she put aside so many things to focus on hockey, and she wasn't even sure she would be able to play professionally forever.

the first year that joseph played for the toronto marlies, rowan was invited (along with some other players of the toronto six) to help with drills and practice. they had fun, going against each other and trying to outplay the other. after the practice session, she went to joe and was like "something about your play is so familiar, but i can't place it." and joe laughs, going, "well i modeled a lot of my play after carey price - everyone's seen him play." and rowan stares at him and just smiles bcz he has no idea how often she's seen carey price play.

and their story goes from there!

rowan was the first free agent to sign with pwhl toronto (before the draft). she was so excited that she was able to stay in the city that had recently become a home to her. and she's been going off ever since the season started.

she's pretty known, even outside of hockey (queen) - and joseph supports her all the time.

general au notes:

jadon, harley, and riley all play hockey, but none of them except riley are interested in going pro. jadon's actually an nba player for the new york knicks, and harley's in university for mechanical engineering (wants to work in f1). riley plays defense and he's 17 right now, entering his draft year this year. he's projected to go high in the draft.

rowan's best known for her clutch/pricey shots, which she almost never misses. she has a very good eye and is good at controlling the puck. she can get goals at the most needed moments - and even if it looks like it's complicated/coming at a pricey time, she's great at going through with it

rowan and joe practice against each other all the time, and riley joins them occasionally too

this exists in the same au as my other three main aus

THANK YOU to everyone who sent stuff in and helped me out, i love all of you <3 i wish i could make an au with every single idea you guys sent in because they were all amazing! sorry if i couldn't get your ideas, but i hope you know i appreciate all of you :))

#pricey shots and brick wolls! au #naqia's au's!

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my-autism-adhd-blog · 10 months

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Hey there :) I've been wondering about the differences, similarities and any other links between ASD and childhood emotional neglect. I thought you might be able to help? Thanks in advance!

Hi there,

there have been a few studies about this, so I’m going to leave some excerpts down below. They’re a bit long, so I apologize in advance:

The few studies that had been done offered mixed results. Some suggested that children with autism are more likely than their typical peers to be neglected or abused, and more likely to be involved with child protective services, the state departments in the United States tasked with overseeing children’s well-being. Others did not show an association between autism and an elevated risk of abuse, although the studies had limitations — including being small or using outdated definitions of autism.

McDonnell and her colleagues decided to investigate the link and tapped into autism surveillance data, as well as records from the South Carolina Department of Social Services. They compared patterns of abuse and neglect for nearly 5,000 children with and without autism born from 1992 to 1998. They found that nearly one in five autistic children in the state, and one in three with both autism and intellectual disability, have been reported to be maltreated. Even after adjusting for factors such as low family income and limited parental education, children with autism remain up to three times as likely as their neurotypical peers to experience maltreatment, the team reported in 2018. “We were alarmed by those numbers and how high they were,” McDonnell says.

Neglect in particular is a problem for children with autism, as well as for those with intellectual disability. Neglect is the most common type of maltreatment documented by child protective services, says Kristen Seay, assistant professor of social work at the University of South Carolina in Columbia. Exacerbating the problem is the fact that children with autism often have needs that families with few resources may find difficult to meet.

Autism Forum:

Autism Study:

Method:

Using record linkage between the Department of Social Services (DSS) and the Autism and Developmental Disabilities Monitoring (ADDM) network, this study compares the prevalence and characteristics of maltreatment among children with ASD-only (n = 316), ASD and comorbid ID (ASD+ID; n = 291), ID-only (n = 1,280), and controls (n = 3,101). Behavioral correlates of maltreatment are examined.

Results:

Controlling for demographic factors, this study found significantly higher odds of reported and substantiated maltreatment among children with ASD-only (odds ratio = 1.86 for reported, 1.51 for substantiated), ASD+ID (odds ratio = 2.35 for reported, 1.97 for substantiated), and ID-only (odds ratio = 2.45 for reported, 2.49 for substantiated) relative to a population control group, with large effects. In particular, children with ASD+ID and ID-only were between two and three times more likely to experience maltreatment. All groups were more likely to experience physical neglect, and children in the ASD+ID and ID-only groups were more likely to experience all forms of abuse. Children in the ASD-only group were more likely to experience physical abuse. Maltreated children in the ASD-only and ID-only groups experienced more cases of physical abuse and neglect, and were victimized by more perpetrators compared to other maltreated youth. Maltreatment was associated with higher likelihood of aggression, hyperactivity, and tantrums for children with ASD.

Conclusion:

Children with ASD and/or ID are at heightened risk for maltreatment. Empirically-supported assessment and intervention approaches for identifying and addressing traumatic stress related to maltreatment in ASD are urgently needed.

I hope some of these sources can help. Thank you for the inbox. I hope you have a wonderful day/night. ❤️

#inbox #inbox reply #inbox is open

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system-of-a-feather · 2 months

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If you are still taking asks about your syscourse stance from anti endos (I'm a bit late) :

1. Excluding those who do not remember their trauma or do not believe it to be enough to be traumagenic, do you believe that endos are really experiencing systemhood and not some other kind of plurality or multiplicity?

I cannot understand how someone who doesn't have any dissociation could ever have alters. It just doesn't make sense at all to me, no matter what angle I look at it from, and I cannot find any sources explaining it either. I do not *not* believe that endos are experiencing some kind of multiplicity but I don't think it's necessarily systemhood, if that makes sense?

2. How do you not get jaded by some of the things you see happening in the pro-endo spaces?

I'm talking about things like people labeling themselves "trans-programmed" or "trans-RAMCOA" (and so many more), those same people often calling traumagenic systems privileged, and other people who keep spreading misinfo about OSDDID (for example, that you don't need trauma to have DID), etc.

I know this isn't the entire community but I rarely see much opposition to those behaviors, which makes me feel very unsafe amongst most pro-endos.

Honestly, I think the only thing in this topic is a lot of arguing over semantics and if words can be shared. From what I'm getting, I think you equate systemhood / being a system to being traumagenic / DID / OSDD exclusively. From the sounds of it, I think you seem to be open to the idea that they do experience multiplicity / plurality so I don't think we disagree there much. I personally don't think "system" and "systemhood" needs to be an explicitly DID/OSDD term but its also a debate I have very little interest in. I am cool with saying that "system" is a term that people can use regardless of their nature cause - to me - it's just a way of labeling yourself.

Also, while I am not sure if it is similar or the same as DID/OSDD alters, I honestly could see how someone could have disordered plurality without being traumagenic simply due to how prolonged internet usage can cause a dissociative effect, especially in situations where roleplaying features are around and those have been documented in clinical studies - particularly around the proposed internet gaming disorder and internet gaming addiction. There is a lot of research to be done whether the experience of DID/OSDD like symptoms late in age is anywhere comparable to the more traditionally researched and understood DID/OSDD that stems from complex and chronic childhood trauma - but it's honestly a pretty false notion that dissociation ONLY comes due to trauma. (ADHD has it as a symptom, internet usage has a dissociative affect on the self, substances can also do it, meditation also can do it) So I figure with the combination of developing research in developmental psychopathology and research into other things that can cause dissociation that we might honestly find other means of developing alters or alter-like experiences in people who did not experience the extended trauma often seen in our current understanding of DID/OSDD.

2. How do you not get jaded by some of the things you see happening in the pro-endo spaces?

I just divide "pieces of shit" from "people just living their lives". //shot//

Honestly, really though, if someone is being an asshole, bigotted, extremely fucked up, etc I consider them first and foremost their fucked up group and then the neutral or positive group identities they have second.

So if someone is trans-programmed and identify as endo - I identify them FIRST as a toxic and fucked up trans-ID person who happens to identify as part of the endo community. I attribute the trans-ID shit to their trans-ID beliefs and give the overall community the benefit of the doubt and good faith that the overlap is a Ven Diagram and not a circle.

Generally I like to avoid generalizing groups as all bad based on their bad corners, especially if I've seen the community actually make efforts to improve. I personally found the latter of the that statement earned with the good faith I saw in a lot of quiogenic and endogenic systems when the tulpa-discourse came up and a good number of servers and people made the effort to leave the appropriated terms behind.

From that point I went "aight ok" and divided the endo community between racists and people with no intent of improving themselves and their community and endos that just honestly want to live their life and are doing the best in their knowledge to not harm others.

TransID people I generally put in the same group as the Tulpa people and just click my tongue in disgust and block them.

But TLDR I just honestly would prefer to give the people that haven't done anything wrong a chance to just live their lives without hurting people rather than punishing them with the people that really don't care the harm they do. Just cause some people who claim to be part of your group are pieces of shit, doesn't mean everyone in that group both 1) supports and wants those people in their group and 2) deserve to be shunned, harassed, and treated with poorly.

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The profile of longtime Johns Hopkins Professor Richard A. Macksey

Richard A. Macksey, was a celebrated Johns Hopkins University professor whose affiliation with the university spanned six and a half decades.

A legendary figure not only in his own fields of critical theory, comparative literature, and film studies but across all the humanities, Macksey possessed enormous intellectual capacity and a deeply insightful human nature. He was a man who read and wrote in six languages, was instrumental in launching a new era in structuralist thought in America, maintained a personal library containing a staggering collection of books and manuscripts, inspired generations of students to follow him to the thorniest heights of the human intellect, and penned or edited dozens of volumes of scholarly works, fiction, poetry, and translation.

Macksey loved classical literature, foreign films, comic novels, and medical narratives—all subjects he taught at one time or another. Conversations with him were marked by a tendency to leap from one topic to another, connected by his seemingly boundless knowledge, prodigious memory, and sense of humor. For many at Hopkins and far beyond, he was no less than the embodiment of the humanities, both in intellect and spirit.

"Dick Macksey was a Johns Hopkins legend," says James Harris, a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, director of the Developmental Neuropsychiatry Clinic, and a longtime friend of Macksey's. "He was a teacher, mentor, and friend to generations of Hopkins faculty and students. To me, he was the most erudite, kind, gracious, and considerate person I have ever known. He will be deeply missed and always remembered as the epitome of what makes Johns Hopkins a world-class university."

Born in New Jersey on July 25, 1931, Macksey planned to be a doctor and had launched his collection of medical books by the age of 5. After beginning his undergraduate studies at Princeton, he transferred to Hopkins and earned a bachelor's degree in 1953 and master's degree in 1954, both in Writing Seminars. He went on to earn a doctorate in comparative literature from Hopkins in 1957, writing his dissertation on Proust in French. While completing his thesis, he took a teaching position at Loyola College in Baltimore (now Loyola University Maryland) and after receiving his degree, returned to Hopkins as an assistant professor in the Writing Seminars. Quickly expanding beyond the writing workshops and "modern writers" courses he taught, he soon introduced a film class and initiated the first courses at Johns Hopkins in African American literature, women's studies, and scholarly publishing.

In 1966, Macksey led the charge in founding the Johns Hopkins Humanities Center—now the Department of Comparative Thought and Literature—as a meeting ground and incubator for problems, ideas, and discussions across disciplines. A degree-granting department, the Humanities Center sponsored graduate and undergraduate courses in literature, art, philosophy, and history; ran a graduate program; and maintained an active program of visiting scholars, professors, and lecturers. Macksey served as its director from 1970 until 1982, and he was a professor on its faculty until his retirement in 2010. Macksey continued to teach several courses until as recently as spring 2018.

The same year he launched the Humanities Center, Macksey joined French literary theorist and philosopher of social sciences René Girard, then associate professor of French at Hopkins, and deconstructionist and literary critic Eugenio Donato (both of whom co-founded the Humanities Center with Macksey) in convening an international symposium called The Languages of Criticism and the Sciences of Man. It was the first time that many leading figures of European structuralist criticism—including Jacques Derrida, Jacques Lacan, Roland Barthes, and Paul de Man—presented their ideas to the American academic community, throwing open a new conduit to avant-garde French theory and placing Hopkins at the center of an international intellectual conversation.

At the symposium, Derrida first presented his groundbreaking critique of structuralism, creating an entirely new perspective on how philosophy, literature, and language relate to and affect one another. The symposium's proceedings became the landmark study titled The Structuralist Controversy. The gathering set an intellectual standard that no U.S. humanities conference since has been able to match in intensity or intellectual stature, and heralded—or perhaps precipitated—the field's shift from structuralism to post-structuralism.

The many sides of Richard Macksey

"Everyone talks about 'interdisciplinary,' but he taught as if teaching and learning was a work of art," says Caleb Deschanel, director and Oscar-nominated cinematographer who graduated from Johns Hopkins in 1966. "[Macksey's teaching style] covered all the bases. If you were studying literature in the 19th century, it related to the music and art and sociology of the time. It's really what learning was supposed to be about. What it taught me was the fact that learning is about everything at the same time. Richard Macksey could somehow weave together all the elements and all the aspects of human existence into one thing, and that's what made him so great."

While a student, Deschanel proposed a film class to Macksey, who responded, why not? The class created a 16mm film, and Deschanel says that ever since, his work has been informed by the way Macksey taught him to question his instincts and search for the universal. He learned not to think of a piece of literature just as literature but as a work of art in a period of time, and about what we can learn from those universal ideas. "He taught you how to explode all the myths about things and come to the truth about what they were. Every time I do anything, my first thing is to doubt my first instincts about it. He saw learning and teaching the way we think of a work of art."

More than leading a life of aloof intellectualism, Macksey also existed fully on the human plane. A night owl, he was regularly spotted grocery shopping and volunteering at Baltimore's The Book Thing late into the evening and in the early morning hours; he liked to solve the trivia questions posed during Orioles games at Memorial Stadium; and he featured his cat, Buttons, as his Facebook cover photo. A fan of film and film history, Macksey was an inaugural founder and supporter of the 1970s Baltimore Film Festival, a predecessor of today's Maryland Film Festival.

It may have been partly due to his ability to exist on just a few hours of sleep that his presence had a way of being ever-present. Former student Rob Friedman, who graduated in 1981, remembers waking up at 1 a.m. to hear Macksey's voice drifting through his apartment window, and glimpsed the professor walking down St. Paul Street and "yakking with five students." On another occasion, Friedman awoke early and stepped outside at 6 a.m., only to find Macksey driving by and waving.

"He was so brilliant and had such an encyclopedic memory, and was also such an exuberant personality. He loved learning, he loved talking about what he was learning, and he also loved learning about what you had to say," Friedman says. "It's the generosity of his spirit and his contagious love of learning and excitement in sharing that learning. He might suddenly quote something in Greek."

Friedman met Macksey in 1977 when a friend advised him to get to know Macksey because of his sense of humor. Friedman left a funny note on Macksey's desk and the next day received an interoffice envelope with a humorous response. The two began sending comedic lines back and forth, and Friedman switched his major to humanistic studies so that Macksey could be his adviser.

"I was extremely unhappy during my college years, and if it hadn't been for him I wouldn't have finished school," Friedman says. "He really made a substantial difference in my life, not just academically but personally. I can't express the magnitude of my gratitude for Dick. There are probably 64 years' worth of people that—behind the scenes—he looked after."

Over the years, Macksey was celebrated for that dedication to teaching and received numerous awards. He also established awards in his name. In 1992, Macksey received the university's George E. Owen Teaching Award, given annually for outstanding teaching and devotion to undergraduates. In 1999, the Johns Hopkins Alumni Association awarded him its Distinguished Alumni Award, and the same year the Richard A. Macksey Professorship for Distinguished Teaching in the Humanities was endowed by former student Edward T. Dangel III and his wife, Bonni Widdoes. The professorship is currently held by author and Writing Seminars professor Alice McDermott.

In 2010, Macksey received a Hopkins Heritage Award, which honors alumni and friends of Hopkins who have contributed outstanding service over an extended period to the progress of the university or the activities of the Alumni Association. The Alexander Grass Humanities Institute hosts the Richard A. Macksey Lecture annually, and the Macksey Award is given each year to the graduating member of the Johns Hopkins chapter of Phi Beta Kappa who took the most academic risks.

Bridging medicine and the humanities

Famous at Hopkins for riding a Harley Davidson motorcycle to class in Gilman Hall and for the ever-present pipe between his teeth, Macksey held joint appointments in Writing Seminars and in History of Medicine at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, where he co-directed the Humanities Programs starting in 1990. With neurosurgeon George Udvarhelyi, he co-founded the School of Medicine's Office of Cultural Affairs in 1977 as a cross-campus initiative to engage in rigorous inquiry between the humanities and arts and health, science, and the delivery of care. Starting with just a few resources, the pair attracted funding from the National Endowment for the Humanities and the National Endowment for the Arts to bring in speakers with international reputations in medicine and the humanities, including Primo Levi and Umberto Eco.

"Because of Dick Macksey's legacy, we can position Hopkins as a key center of the intersection of humanities and medicine," says Jeremy Greene, professor of medicine and the history of medicine and director of the Institute of the History of Medicine. "He really blazed a path between the two campuses that many people have been able to follow since, and draw closer together the relevance between the humanities and medicine in the 21st century."

In 1992, Catherine DeAngelis, then the School of Medicine vice dean of academic affairs, received a grant to update the 75-year-old medical school curriculum. Wanting to familiarize med students with literature, poetry, theater, and the arts, she asked Macksey if he would assist in developing a four-year course called Physician and Society.

"I could think of no one better to teach in that course than Dick Macksey even though he wasn't in the School of Medicine. He really made that course so special, and I learned a lot from him by sitting in," says DeAngelis, now University Distinguished Service Professor Emerita and professor of pediatrics emerita.

"He was absolutely brilliant, but if you talked to him you would never know from him how brilliant he was," she adds. "He was approachable, and just so kind."

Generosity of spirit

Macksey was beloved for his generosity, the way he fully devoted himself to every conversation and cared about every person and his or her ideas. He thrived on engaging with everyone, eagerly giving his attention to students' thoughts and to them as people, and he never met a conversation or topic he didn't find interesting.

"Dick, of course, was brilliant, with a superb and elegant command of language, and that extraordinary memory," says John Astin, theater program director and Homewood Professor of the Arts. "Beyond that, he was a cherished companion, possessing infinite kindness whom I shall miss always. The world is less without him but much better for having had him for a time."

Friedman remembers one student who had discovered an obscure Portuguese poet, read a translation, and wanted to learn more. The student approached faculty in what is now the Department of German and Romance Languages and Literatures, but no one was familiar with the poet. Someone advised him to ask Macksey if he'd heard of him. "He said, 'of course,' and handed him an entire file of research and the poet's life history," Friedman says.

"I visited him two weeks ago when he was still able to talk and even laugh despite being bedridden," says Richard Chisolm, a documentary filmmaker whom Macksey hired to teach film at Hopkins in the 1980s and '90s, and a friend of Macksey's for 40 years. "He was a one-of-a-kind intellectual giant and a joyful teacher who was never self-centered; always filled with good humor, curiosity, and an intense love of conversation—in over a dozen languages."

A legendary library

In 1972, Macksey and his wife, Catherine Macksey, converted the garage of their home into a library. But his sprawling collection was never confined to its walls, spilling into bookshelves throughout their home and even occupying the steps of the ladders intended to access the upper shelves. "Chez Macksey," as it was fondly known, was where he frequently held classes and film viewings and subsequent discussions, and Macksey and his students would compete with those books for space around a table late into the night, often fueled by cookies and pipe smoke, while works of fine art looked on.

"Students for decade after decade have reveled in the life of that house: To be around a world of learning, enthusiasm, watching movies in the wee hours, listening to this expansive mind firing off in seven directions at once, and learning something they never knew before," Friedman says.

The collection holds not only an impressive number of diverse titles but also, scrawled in the margins, insights into Macksey's mind. He would frequently write on the pages, creating a sort of correspondence with the authors. His wife, a French scholar at Hopkins who died in 2000, also annotated her books, and Macksey told author Jessie Chaffee several years ago that he continued to "find" Catherine in the annotations she'd made in books.

"He was always engaging with the author, either in agreement or in argument," says Winston Tabb, Sheridan Dean of University Libraries, Archives and Museums. "[What you see is] essentially two minds operating together in one text—the author and a very intelligent reactor."

Equally impressive, says Tabb, is the fact that no current catalog exists: "The catalog was in Dick's mind."

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For sure! @aradow

Garuda aviary mentions the concept here (where I was first introduced to the concept, they are mostly theorizing based on what we know of chick development and observed feather destruction between wild and captive birds.)

this article covers how the parent bird plays a crucial role in how the chicks are able to respond to stressors (study on chickens not parrots)

The Manual of parrot behaviour has a chapter on the influences of hand rearing on feather picking behaviours, the whole book is a pretty informative read

comparison of wild caught, parent reared, and hand reared African grey behaviour

comparing feather picking with corticosterone excretion (and mentions how endorphins help to cope with increased corticosterone)

General overview of plucking influences and social, developmental factors

Concludes that feather plucking behaviours are commonly sourced back to the imprinting periods prior to fledging among other influential factors

and if anyone wants to do further digging the "sciency" term for feather plucking is "pterotillomania" which helps a lot in finding good sources

#plucking

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general society is such an underthought aspect of mha. obviously there’s the big things like the obsession over heroic quirks and the demonisation of villainous quirks. quirkless people are dismissed entirely but i don’t think we talk about how society in general would have to handle a world with super powers.

we know after afo’s first uprising, the government overcorrected and outlawed public quirk usage. we know people have their quirks registered and go through quirk counselling as well as a type of gym class where they practice under teacher supervision.

how in the hell is that supposed to work?

the closest equivalent i can think of is mental health services. someone would have to study for a long time to be able to pursue quirk counselling as a career. it’s also a highly personalised system: everyone has a different quirk - even similar ones have different activations, triggers, exceptions and drawbacks - so no two sessions could ever be the same. if anyone’s been through mental health services, you know how rough it is; it’s an overworked, underpaid system and if you live somewhere that only offers a few free visits, it can also be expensive.

and that’s an elective service.

almost everyone on the planet would need quirk counselling.

there’s no way they could implement such a labour intensive and individual public system and we literally see that they can’t.

we see the gym class in amajiki’s flashback and he only has a few minutes with his teacher before he’s chided for not being more impressive and utilising his quirk to the fullest and they move on to the next student. say a standard class is twenty students like it is at ua. that leaves just over two minutes for each student to learn and practice their quirks. you can’t focus on just one kid per lesson bc what will the other nineteen do? do teachers also have to have a degree in quirk counselling? is that part of becoming a phys ed teacher or is it some random joe schmo trying to wrap his head around literal super powers?

given that inko goes to garaki - a doctor - to confirm izuku’s quirklessness, it can be assumed that quirk counselling is entwined with the medical system. i don’t know if you’ve ever had to apply for a specialist before but you can be on their waiting list for a while. a quirk counsellor is essentially a specialist. are there subcategories of counsellors? do you focus on either emitter, transformation or mutation the way doctors become cardiologists, paediatricians and neurologists? or is one person expected to be equally knowledgeable about all three?

we see through toga that her counsellor identified her need for blood but they didn’t find a way to curb those instincts or even find a supplement for her. she’s left to be abused by her family for something she can’t control bc it’s literally in her dna. compare that to iida who knows he needs orange juice to power his quirk. his entire family are pro heroes so it would be easy to assume they could employ a private quirk counsellor the same way richer people can employ private doctors.

how many people have specific requirements due to their quirks? changes in their physiology that have to be treated the same way nutritional deficiencies and allergies do? even people without mutations probably have those requirements: does kirishima’s shark teeth mean he’s an obligate carnivore? does mina’s acid change her ph levels and what vitamins and minerals she needs? how would they figure that out? quirk counselling.

what about kids like touya who would need extensive counselling so he could figure out how to live with his quirk without hurting himself? kaminari essentially has seizures and they’re so normal to him and everyone around him that they’re the butt of jokes. they wouldn’t be a one and done patient; there’s always going to be people that need continued support the exact same way there’s people that need developmental and disability support. there would be so many quirks that harm their user, are they just taught to bury their quirks? as if that wouldn’t cause any physical or mental consequences?

governments can’t create a system that applies to only some people, we’re expected to believe they’ve made one that applies to all of them?

#bnha #my hero academia #mha meta #i imagine its similar to therapy in that the first session would be free since its probably required in order to register a child’s quirk #they probably figure out activation in that time and thats it #onto the next kid bc there will always be another kid #you want more information on your child’s power? you better be able to pay for more sessions #even quirkless people need to be fully assessed to ensure theyre quirkless #i doubt anyone else is as interested in this as i am but it feels like just another world building aspect horikoshi just kinda skipped #quirk counselling is just sort of thrown in with toga and curious and it becomes just another concept that is brought up and discarded #quirk counselling quirklessness mutant prejudice the quirk singularity theory general mutations outside of mutant quirks #theres so many little interesting concepts that are never given the development they deserve #and when they are like in the last few chapters its done in such a shallow handwavy way that i wish hed just leave them alone altogether #no wonder the plf exists quirks are so suppressed in society while also being a status symbol #and yet its a completely hypothetical advantage if they dont become a hero or a villain #if a kid has a heroic quirk theyre held on a pedestal and if they have a villainous one theyre demonised at best and abused at worst #koichi was almost given a fine bc he was using his quirk to get through foot traffic quicker how is there not a riot every year about #quirk freedom and rights violations?#and yet its completely glossed over #go beyond plus ultra #coming out of my cage and ive been doing just fine.txt

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