#anti bellatrix lestrange

[thecarnivorousmuffinmeta]

due to reading a hp fanfic rn I misread one of your recent asks as being about Bellatrix Lestrange instead of being about Bella Swan, and so inspired by that I have a question:

what would happen in both of their original universes if they suddenly swapped bodies?

Bella Swan

Well, Bella either dies horribly in Azkaban, being a Muggle/unused to magic and not really having the obsessive mental fortitude that saw Bellatrix surviving Azkaban with a good amount of her memories shockingly intact.

We've seen from canon that Bella doesn't handle depression well (to be fair no one really does) and I just don't see her surviving Azkaban.

If it's after Bellatrix's escape, Bella probably dies in a duel due to a) tripping b) not knowing how magic works at all. Everyone blames this on the Azkaban adventures.

If she swaps before all of that, then she's killed by her friends because they believe Bellatrix is being impersonated (rightly so, she is being impersonated).

I just don't see Bella making it.

Bellatrix Lestrange

Bellatrix also doesn't make it.

She's now a helpless Muggle and either kills herself out of the shame of it all/pride, likely believing this is a new form of torture WELL THEY CAN'T BREAK BELLA, SHE WILL DIE BEFORE SHE IS MUGGLE.

Even if Bellatrix decides not to do this (doubtful) then I imagine she's ill prepared for the many things that hunt Bella including cars, rapists, and Edward Cullen.

The latter, specifically, is what will get her as Bellatrix does not really act like the woman Edward's into.

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[annabellelupin]

people: *romanticize literal fucking murderers*

me: .... you do realize they're an absolutely terrible person right??

people: um well they're fictional and hot so its fine

me: *blinks intensely*

#honestly mavens my favorite character (besides eve) #but the way people romanticize and sexualize him is fucking awful #and people do the same with the des and i really hate it #maven calore #anti barty crouch jr #anti evan rosier #anti bellatrix lestrange #red queen #harrypotter #marauders era

[expectopatronum81]

-JK Rowling's original draft for the Battle of the Department of Mysteries.

IN TEXT:

"Harry runs for it with prophecy but Sirius is in trouble - goes back - chucks away the prophecy -Sirius chooses death rather than the Dementor - snake there - Voldemort comes"

Personally, I wish this had made it to the books.

In the book though, Sirius's arrogance and underestimation of his opponent in his last moments are supposed to parallel Bellatrix's last words as well, hence showing the distinct similarity between the 2 cousins fighting on diametrically opposite sides.

What does this prove anyways? That Sirius was arrogant? Ofc he was, we see examples of this throughout the 5th book. Plus this in NO WAY compares to the type of arrogance Bellatrix exhibits. She takes pleasure in Molly's grieving of Fred and taunts her asking what her children would do without their mother.

Sirius does have a dark malicious streak, yes, but it still doesn't compare to the way Bellatrix takes pleasure in the torture of her victims.

On the other hand, if Sirius's death had been written the way it is here, it would show a facet of his character. Throughout the books, Sirius tries to pretend as if everything is perfectly normal. When he isn't able to keep up the act, he locks himself away from the world by staying in Buckbeak's room for hours, indulges in drinking, and is affected by the smallest of remarks. Nobody shows him any compassion except Harry, who never shows it out though( poor boy's never learned how to). Mrs. Weasley calls his depressive isolation 'fits of sullens', and literally flings his deepest regret to his face over a simple argument concerning Harry. Dumbledore insists he has to stay in the house despite being a personal witness to all this.

Showing Sirius choosing death rather than trying to fight off the dementors( something he claims would enjoy: “Personally, I’d have welcomed a dementor attack. A deadly struggle for my soul would have broken the monotony nicely") would have really shown the depth to which he struggled during those 12yrs, and just how much he was brushing off his suffering by making that claim. Making him choose death as a means of escape even when Harry's safety hasn't been fully guaranteed at the moment( the thing he cared for the most) would have instilled a deeper understanding of why he acted the way he did in phoenix, and would have ultimately made his death soo much sadder( not lyk we needed that tho 😭 )

#harry potter #mauraders #sirius black #sirius black death #bellatrix lestrange #character options #order of the phoenix #grimmauld place #anti bellatrix lestrange #anti molly weasley #anti dumbledore #original transcript #archives #😭😭😭 #pro sirius #pro sirius black

[moonlightdancer26]

Came across a wild "bellatrix is a feminist icon" post with 100% sincerity from the poster. Yeah girl, torturing other women for not being pure of blood is soooo progressive! Poster also called Wanda and Cruella feminist 😬 God, can fandoms stop calling abusive/cruel/racist women "feminist icons"? Feel free to love them however much you want, they're just fictional after all, but for fuck's sake keep feminism out of your mouth when you try to defend them.

Bro…

torturing other women for not being pure of blood is soooo progressive!

I think the OP’s also forgetting that Bellatrix fawned obsessed over and devoted her entire life to a man who treated her like absolute trash. She actively supported an elitist terrorist group to take any non-purebloods’ rights away, she tortured countless innocent people, including women, and she was more than happy with tossing Hermione—a muggleborn woman—over to Greyback—who 1. is a pedophile, rapist, and cannibal 2. was strongly implied to have lusted after Mione—and let him do whatever he wanted with her. She didn’t even have a problem with throwing Draco—her sister’s son—to the werewolves. Bella’s entire personality revolved around 1. a man who couldn’t care less about her and took advantage of her “love” for him and 2. taking away people’s rights (she even murdered a house-elf bruh).

Me who just spent two minutes looking for more info about who anon is talking about and then actually found the post: I just found what you’re talking about, anon, and I’m going insane rn. The fact that I saw some Snape fans agreeing with the poster is making me… question things. (I like how the OP tried to use “why can’t a villain be a feminist icon?” as an argument 💀)

I remember seeing a “Bella is a feminist icon” post from harrypotterconfessions, I thought the person who submitted that was crazy for a sec but then I tried to gaslight myself into believing they were a troll and didn’t mean it. 😀 It scares me that there are people who think like this.

Feminism is not torturing people—including women (I feel the need to mention women because almost all Bella stans who think like this are misandrists)—into insanity and, like I said, actively supporting an elitist terrorist group to take any non-purebloods’ rights away. I cannot even think of a single thing Bella did in the entire series that would make anyone think of her as a feminist.

And I like how the OP tried to use Bella’s powers as evidence of her supposed feminism, as if there weren’t several other powerful witches in the series. Plus?? Bella got her ass kicked by Molly Weasley (and even got outsmarted by a bunch of teenage girls but that’s besides the point).

Poster also called Wanda and Cruella feminist 😬

Ahh. Of course they’re a Wendy stan, of-fucking-course. (I’m not even gonna spend my time on this, Wanda stans are a different breed istg.)

As for Cruella. If they’re talking about Cruella from the Cruella movie (she’s a total queen, Emma Stone was perfect for the role!), then I can at least understand it a bit more; she’s a diva and a fashion icon. But if they’re talking about Cruella from 101 Dalmatians, then how the hell is she in any way a feminist? The Cruella movie mostly acts as a stand-alone film, hence separate from the 101 Dalmatians universe, so I’m pretty sure it isn’t to be considered canon to the Disney film (correct me if I’m wrong, I didn’t find much info about it).

God, can fandoms stop calling abusive/cruel/racist women "feminist icons"?

Still waiting for the day, anon. They can love them as much as they can, I absolutely adore Bella and Cruella (Wanda can fuck off), but ffs these people are getting way too loose with the term “feminist.” Why can’t people just google the definition of feminist? Google is free… and it takes less than 15 seconds.

but for fuck's sake keep feminism out of your mouth when you try to defend them.

THANK YOU

And just so y’all know, this post is not meant to send any hate to the OP—if any of my followers know who anon and I are talking about, please just leave them be. The claims they’ve made aren’t new to me, this post was meant to merely debunk said claims.

One last thing, anon, I’d like to inform you that I think you’ve caused me to develop a bit of a passion for this topic—my answer was a lot longer than I intended it to be. 👀

#i never thought i’d make an anti bella post but here i am #anti bellatrix lestrange #harry potter #idk how to tag #hp #ask #asks

[hitchell-mope]

They’re all falling apart and it’s wildly entertaining.

#harry potter #anti lucius malfoy #anti narcissa malfoy #anti draco malfoy #anti bellatrix lestrange #deathly hallows

[rewritingcanon]

idk why im in such a bad mood rn but it actually PISSES ME TF OFF how the entire marauders fandom collectively decided to take this bum-ass loser character with one discernable impact on the storyline (regulus. im talking about regulus) and make him a super complex, three-dimensional MAIN character in the era that’s being literally paired with JAMES POTTER(???) when they could’ve taken a character who AREADY has existing complexities and everything they could ever want and develop them. but they won’t because that character is a fucking woman ☠️☠️

the way the black sisters would have the entire fandom in a fucking chokehold if they were boys. do you actually think sirius and regulus would be as cherished as they are now if they were women? hell fucking no, regulus would be hated on so badly. the way we were given narcissa and fucking andromeda too? here’s the entire fandom yapping on and on about how cool regulus is for rebelling against the dark lord when narcissa was doing it and fucking getting away with it too (because she’s better and doesn’t suck ass). here’s andromeda going against her entire bloodline ON HER OWN but yet shes still so overshadowed by sirius (who literally came after her). then you got bellatrix who is canonly one of the most powerful (and cuntiest) witches in the hp-verse and you decide to go and develop BARTY instead. think about it. they’re both crazy except one is more of a loser and is a male so of course the fandom will choose him.

and then. of course. lily evans who is literally the mother of the entire verse itself is still out here fighting for literal recognition and development from the fandom. and those mfs still give it to regulus instead ☠️☠️

#this fandom has such a superiority complex when it’s literally one of the worst things ive ever interacted with. #someone got offended on a tiktok i made bc i said i preferred andy over evan. BRO. who tf even is evan he is so middddd #regulus mid. barty mid. evan mid. ur favs are bad #harry potter #hp #marauders #marauders era #regulus black #narcissa black #andromeda black #james potter #lily evans #sirius black #bellatrix black #bellatrix lestrange #narcissa malfoy #barty crouch jr #jily #marauders fandom slander #anti jegulus #rewriting #im not actually anti jegulus im just scared i’ll get lit tf up by jegulus shippers if i dont tag right LOLZ 🤣🤣🤣 #edit tags: im thinking abt it now and the wolfstar shippers are just as bad and just as delusional when it comes down to tonks #i literally cant STAND the way wolfstar shippers treat tonks. if wolfstar was a wlw ship and tonks was a man the whole situation would be- #-treated immensely differently #male love interests are never villainised in wlw ships the same way female love interests are in mlm ships. its insane. #but this is an issue in general… not just a marauders fandom issue (doesnt discredit how rancid it still is tho) #1k

[batwingsrosa]

There are characters in this franchise who did not let themselves be bit by a three headed dog to protect a stone or ran through the castle in their nightshirt upon hearing someone scream.

Or agreed to spy on the most dangerous person on earth withoutht gaining anything.

With the prospect of being tortured and killed if they were ever found out.

Who risked being exposed by trying to save Lupins life at the battle of the seven Potters- eventhough they hated that man.

Who ignored forbidden activities their students did so they would not be punished by the deatheaters(,the carrows).

Or who lept out of a window so they wouldn‘t have to hurt his colleagues.

And still Severus remains the most hated.

To quote another post i can‘t find anymore:

„These are not the actions of someone who does not care.“

His actions show, that he cared deeply for the safety of his students and colleagues.

And still he is treated worse that Bellatrix or Barty or Regulus or Draco or Lucius.

When he was the most caring and devoted and human all of all of them.

Make it make sense.

Actions speak louder than words.

#pro severus snape #severus snape #always #harry potter #anti marauders #redemption arc #severus #he cared the most #he risked his safety to protect that of his students #he was a good man #actions speak louder than words #the carrows #snape was a hero #spying #he risked his life everyday #draco malfoy #lucius malfoy #bellatrix lestrange #regulus black #barty crouch junior #death eaters

[controversialhpmemes]

'How has the Marauders fandom hurt you today?'

By turning the Black Sisters into abused, cynical sad girls™ with no agency, a characterisation that is the very opposite of how canon presents them. Even Andromeda is no 'sad girl'. In the only scene we have of her, she is described as haughty. Narcissa is only sad because of Draco being in danger. And Bellatrix... How can anyone read about someone so exuberant and...sensual, who enjoys life to the fullest especially in battle and while she kills and tortures people, and see a sad girl? She is sad in one or two scenes because she is human and things are not going well, but when they are going well, like at the beginning of the Department of Mysteries and in DH when she thinks Harry is dead, she is positively vivacious.

And people who are abused obviously do not have monolithic personalities but abuse leaves signs that I do not see in any of the Black sisters. You can see such signs clearly in someone like Merope, for instance she is defeatist, but nothing like that in the Black sisters. I really hate the obsession this fandom has of giving villains/darker characters tragic backstories and they're not even creative about the tragic backstories. It always has to be child abuse. Sirius going to Azkaban at 21 for a crime he didn't commit after his best friend got betrayed by one of his other friends and died isn't that tragic. He has to be tortured by Walburga to be tragic enough for them.

Dear @fugamalefica, preach. Dialling up child abuse to make the characters "interesting" or "tragic" is a cheap way to characterise. Especially if no thought is given to its lifelong effects. Actual survivors of child abuse will show signs of it well into adulthood or for their entire lives. It's glossed over. Romance "fixes" the abuse. That's not how it works. It is fanfiction. It does not have to be realistic. It does not have to be accurate. It is frustrating when this narrative is pushed on all parts of fandom. When fanon relies on bad narrative, bad characterisation.

The Black sisters in fandom are sad, hysterical, or forgotten. When you want to write them in a different way you get hate.

The irony.

#asked #answered #anti marauders fandom #the black sisters #andromeda tonks #narcissa malfoy #bellatrix lestrange #sirius black #regulus black

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[fugamalefica]

In my mind, the reason Sirius 'hated' Bellatrix so much was that she would always tell him that the friends he had betrayed his family for would all eventually abandon him. Deep down he knew she had been right, but his heart could not accept it. His 'friends' had let him rot in Azkaban for a crime he did not even commit. Not once did they even believe in his innocence, let alone actually defend him. Dumbledore protected Snape, an actual former Death Eater, but not Sirius.

Honestly, Sirius deserved so much better than his friends and the Order of the Phoenix. He was a Black by blood and heart and they didn't like it.

#harry potter #sirius black #bellatrix lestrange #bellatrix black #james potter #remus lupin #peter pettigrew #marauders #marauders fandom #marauders era #anti wolfstar #anti marauders #pro sirius black #Albus Dumbledore #black family #the noble and most ancient house of black

[snape-fans]

Marauders fans are too contradictory really. They hate Snape for what he did but idolize Bellatrix, Regulus, Evan and Barty. What the hell?

Some trying to justify Regulus, much more than the others because "he sacrificed himself" he did it for his house elf. Stop worshiping him so much, he was a blood purist like everyone else.He was a DEATH EATER, who shared the beliefs of blood purity and brought his entire family together. "But he lived a bad life for his family" really Severus too and apart from that also at Hogwarts. And leaving that aside, REGULUS DID NOT CHANGE. "You just haven't researched much about him" and neither have you, there isn't much about him. It is only known that he died by drowning, he is Slytherin and Sirius's brother. The rest is not canon, it does not exist, it does not happen.

"Barty had a reason" which ones? That his father didn't pay attention to him? That reason is not a good reason.

And Bella was a crazy and blood purist

And let's not even talk about Evan, nothing is known about him except that he died.

They idolize them along with the marauders because they are handsome.

#severus snape #professor snape #pro severus #pro severus snape #anti marauders #anti james potter #anti sirius black #anti remus lupin #snape gang #pro snape #evan rosier #sirius and regulus #regulus black #bellatrix lestrange

[expectopatronum81]

I honestly hate the fact that it was molly Weasley who killed Bellatrix. Its just SO impossible. I get that it only happened coz Bellatrix was arrogant and underestimated her opponent, and taunted molly about fred, but it doesn't make sense and neither is it satisfactory. The only part I like about it is 'Not my daughter u bitch'... but overall I hate that it was used to show that motherly love triumphs over possessive love

In the same battle, Remus dies at the hands of dolohov as he had been inactive for a few months and performed more protective spells, compared to dolohov who was very battle hardened by tht point. But the same logic doesn't apply to molly, who was also in hiding at the time, and who's been inactive her entire life (in a battle sense) before ootp? Bellatrix was trained by voldemort himself. She's the most hardcore death eater there. She was able to throw Kingsley (guy who could duel 2 DEs at once) off after only a few minutes, could block Dumbledore's spell, took down 4/5 snatchers on her own, can literally throw a knife quick enough to hit a disaparating house elf, has experience from the first war too, and is just batshit crazy overall (I m not including killing Sirius coz he died due to his recklessness, also not including azkaban coz it doesn't affect DEs the way it affects normal ppl). We get zero evidence of Molly being powerful during the series. We never see her duel even once. We r nt told anything about any capabilities of hers or if she had any inclination towards fields lyk this before she settled down to have a family. It would be more believable (not convincing imo but at least better than what we have) if we had a single indicator of any power she might possess but we just don't get anything.

The author just wanted to convey the overall message tht housewives and mothers can be just as skillful, which is a good thing overall but idk how much tht works in a battlefield. Also wanting to prove a point doesn't exempt u from having to give some evidence to support it, otherwise it just invalidates and weakens the message conveyed.

Idk, i just wish that scene was written more realistically and gave a more satisfactory ending to Bellatrix after everything she's done

#harry potter #bellatrix lestrange #molly weasley #anti molly weasley #voldemort #the noble house of black #death eaters #unpopular take #dumbledore #sirius black #remus lupin #antonin dolohov

[thecarnivorousmuffinmeta]

I'm loving the recent chapters to The Man Who Would Be King! I was wondering with the homophobia in the wizarding world, does anyone has a functioning gaydar?

Would Dumbledore catch on if he didn't think Tom was hellspawn incapable of human emotions? How slow would Alphard's nieces be to figure out Alphard and Tom, on a scale of 1 to Edward Cullen?

The Man Who Would Be King by me and @therealvinelle.

Look, @therealvinelle, praise!

Also, thoughts on homophobia in the wizarding world.

Like all things depends on the character and their upbringing even within the wizarding world.

You have Lily where homosexuality is a nebulous concept that exists, that gay people are somewhere and certainly in the Muggle world, but she would insist she's never seen it personally in the wizarding world due to lack of overt out people/not really having internalized it in terms of the wizarding world.

You have Alphard where he is the gay people that exists, is highly closeted, but is also a bit of a shut-in and family oriented/doesn't have many friends. He'll side eye other people and go "huh, they're acting very similar to me/have very similar life circumstances, aren't they/don't they?" So, he'll look at people like Rabastan who really really really really really don't want to get married even though his brother's over there in his mid-thirties still without an heir and goes "hm, looks familiar" but he would also shrug and accept he's wrong if someone vehemently went "no way!" to him.

But you bring up interesting examples.

Dumbledore is... Dumbledore. He'll never catch on with Tom in particular, or anyone having anything to do with Tom, because as you note Tom is an evil hellspawn with a dark glamour about him. Everything by its nature with Tom is at once both hyper sexual and also completely asexual because that's just what Tom is to Dumbledore. He's a sexy sexy sexy man who isn't sexy at all because he's evil except he is but in a dark way and completely incapable of love and intimacy and what do you mean the way Dumbledore's been describing him is weird?

So, even in a different world, I don't see Dumbledore being different because he's Dumbledore.

As for the nieces, absolutely no idea, none. Now, they wouldn't go Edward about it because but they would have weird reactions because of just who it is. Bellatrix gets to deal with the fact that her father is banging her god (and is it gay if he's banging your god or is that just something anyone would do if their god asked?), Narcissa would also be more :/ about the fact that the dark lord... is... doing things with her beloved uncle-father, and Andromeda of course would lose her goddamn mind. If it weren't Tom I imagine they'd be a bit more "huh" about it and would probably, eventually, shrug it off as an Uncle Alphard quirk of which he has many, on par with things like "Uncle Alphard really likes books!" But the idea that the Dark Lord is banging their uncle-father?

Merlin forbid, the concept is blasphemous and terrifying. They're not going there.

#harry potter #the man who would be king #andromeda tonks #bellatrix lestrange #narcissa malfoy #alphard black #tom riddle #albus dumbledore #anti albus dumbledore #lily evans #alphard black/tom riddle #meta #vinelle #therealvinelle #praise

[hitchell-mope]

Wormtail should’ve committed a quadruple murder-suicide. Put us all out of their misery.

#harry potter #anti wormtail #anti snape #anti narcissa malfoy #anti bellatrix lestrange #half blood prince

[the-fire-might-be-shooting-at-us]

Not in the Harry Potter fandom anymore but what do ppl there think of this new jegulus/slytherin redemptions/everyone is gay trend bc tbh I rlly feel like it's too much

Like ship whatever but Bellatrix??? You're gonna uwu-fy a character that is literally the fictional version of a racist and nazi???

Also Jegulus lowkey pulls down Lily as a character and disregards her and all she did for Harry. Also idk it feels very forced as a ship I like the OG (Jily) better.

Anyways my tiktok FYP has just been flooded with all of that so I needed to get pissed off abt it somewhere else, I'm over HP again.

#rem does stuff and panics #harry potter #anti jegulus #ig? #bellatrix lestrange #jily #james potter #lily evans #marauders era #lily potter

[picklesonjupiter]

If Severus Snape were described as attractive in the books, I bet more people would like him. So many people love Bellatrix (the same people who hate Snape), even though she's done horrible things (worse than Snape and she felt no remorse), and it's because she isn't described as ugly. Plus, in the movies, she is played by Helena Carter who is beautiful, and while Alan Rickman was attractive he wasn't conventionally beautiful. I love Severus Snape, but I was never attracted to Alan's Snape.

#i also love bellatrix but isn’t it funny how people who hate snape like her #pro snape #anti snater #severus snape #alan rickman #bellatrix lestrange #bellatrix black #helena carter