#the grisha trilogy spoilers

[jayciethings]

I can tell Shadow and Bone season 2 has dropped cos a lot of my old anti M*lina posts and Nikolina love posts are getting reblogged 😅 Meanwhile, having finished the Grisha trilogy and partway through the Six of Crows dulogy, I'm not sure I even want to watch S2.

Firstly, cos I'm either going to be disappointed in the depiction of Nikolai, and therefore frustrated, or I will love the depiction of Nikolai and be even more frustrated cos I know what happens with him and Alina.

Secondly, because I don't love how they're interweaving Six of Crows into it. Those characters deserve their own series. They're so complex.

Thirdly, because I loathe what Bardugo does to Alina in the end. Pbbblllttttt

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[lilisouless]

Alright, i have a theory bassed on absolutely nothing but let´s see:

I don't think the show is going to reach the Nikolai Duology. First: is not THAT popular to get as many seasons as it would be needed, if it was on the level of Stranger things or the umbrella academy i might think so, but SaB is not as popular not has the pop culture relevance to keep going for so long, specially now after Netflix´s problems.

Also the show seems already aware they won't get that far, even if Eric says he has enought material: they already used names featured in the duology as easter eggs: Dima, Milana (Mila) and most noticiably; Count Kirigin (General Kirigan)

Anyway, the theory is: (Spoilers for SoC,TGT and The Nikolai duology under the cut)

The show is not going to kill Matthias off

Sure, David would obviously be spared but in theory ,Matthias can die with no problems. But i think they´ll keep him alive because:

1-If there is no KoS , there is no point of him dying

2-Pleasing the fanbase. A lot of fans are roaring for the show to change Alina´s romantic endgame and (i hope HOPE) if that doesn't happen , Helnik can serve as a comfort price; also Helnik´s fandom is not as vocal but it is bigger and has way less antis, since while DA is more popular among TGT fans, SaB´s fandom is half TGT and half SoC, a lot of SoC fans don't care about DA but do about Helnik so more people would be happy.

I am probably wrong, but come on, can we dream?

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[dhampiravidi]

I feel like I’m alone in this opinion BUT (spoilers for Shadow & Bone/the Grisha Trilogy:

Is it just me or did Alina not actually become equal in power to the Darkling until she got all 3 amplifiers? I understand that she only trained for a couple months to a year as opposed to his 400+ years but IDK that’s what it seemed like to me. Does anyone think Aleksander could’ve even made use of an amplifier on his own? I mean (lol) imagine if he’d killed Mal…what a surprise that would’ve been 😈. The new poster for the show’s S2 made me think about this…also, maybe I missed it, but does anyone know if Aleksander can Summon to become invisible? I just really like the idea of that.

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[ekbelsher]

Alina and Mal get attacked by volcra, and her Sun Summoner powers finally show up (for the Litjoy Shadow and Bone box set)

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[thetimetraveler24]

Me when Mal takes up the Sturmhond mantle and Inej goes with him and Tolya smiles at her:

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[nyacromancey]

watching season 2 of s&b with my fiancé when he randomly says, “i don’t care about these people” in regards to the actual s&b plot, but when kaz is on screen “he’s all i care about. he’s my babygirl” so true king

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[emerlandlady]

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[metvmorqhoses]

So... thoughts about sab season 2 lmao

The writers were obviously on acids while concocting this high drivel.

It's a new fantasy genre they just founded with this season, you know, High Drivel.

They completely butchered the Darkling's character and I had to painfully witness ten hours of Ben, completely conscious of it, trying to conjure every Beauty and the Beast refrain to delay the Titanic-like sinking of his character and ship (from Phantom and Love Never Dies, to Dracula and Frankenstein to literal fanfictions I'm now sure he reads).

They completely missed the entire point and meaning of Darklina, making it a one-sided, one-dimensional stalker/simp-victim with angry Stokolm syndrome dynamic.

They threw famous line after famous line at us completely out of context as if they were bones to bait rabid dogs with (I will never forgive how they turned the sardonic "I'll make sure you hear when I make her scream", elegant half-threat and half-innuendo, into an angry madman growl with no meaning whatsoever).

"Let me be your monster!" - my children, you have read too many fanfics and not even the good ones.

Don't get me started with Baghra, the relationship counsellor and motherly hero (tm).

The shameless way they painted Aleksander taking possession of the stag amplifier as an assault metaphor. Disgusting.

I honestly didn't believe possible to do worse than the actual books, but never say never! The reasons why I hated the books were magnified this season. If Alina's reasoning and idiocy and lack of interest in her destiny and counterpart just did not make any sense in the books, in the show she is a thousand times dumber and one-dimensional! Put against this new version, books!Alina was depth personified! And if the books felt like rushed unelaborated summaries, the show is now an even worse mess! I cannot believe those are the same people who created season one. I'm astonished.

They eradicated the entirety of canon Darklina's scenes. Not a single one was present. Not one.

The tether is now for everyone to use and abuse, not only a personal soulmate thing. The Darkling is in Mal's dreams too lmao

Merzost suddenly killing the Darkling, of course. Obviously not to make Alina appear less of a cold-blooded murderer, not at all. Perhaps they should have remembered to make her fake a tear or two while burning the corpse of her ex-lover looking like a dumb emotionless fish.

Genya reduced to the victim (tm).

Nikolai the good woke boy (tm).

Nikolai giving up the Sturmhond title to the first tracker he meets, of course.

I loved how after ten hours of soppy eternal love declarations Mal dumps Alina because their love isn't real lol epic stuff.

And by the way this is still considered more valid and important than the relationship with the poor bastard who actually allowed the dumb angry fish to end him while daydreaming about her, his only peace in a thousand lifetimes of war.

Alina turning dark gives me a feeble hope, but the writers should come down from whatever drug they are currently using first.

Said hope involves the fact that they extinguished both Malina and the hatred towards the Darkling this season, and I like to think they did that to give us the proper dynamic with dark!Alina and the Nikolai's duology resurrected Darkling. But who knows if they will see reason.

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[lalalalooost]

I'm past the stage of shipping Alina with Nikolai but can we talk about that scene in Ruin and Rising when Nikolai still offered Alina to be his queen knowing she already lost her powers. I think that's so pure and I love Nikolai more for that. I love how their relationship developed throughout the series.

He leaned back. “We were friends, weren’t we? Not just allies?”

“Don’t be an ass, Nikolai. We are friends.”

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[allarica]

"I know there's a lot of things I don't understand but I know metal. Your beauty is your armor. Fragile stuff, all show. But what’s inside you? That’s steel. It’s brave and unbreakable and it doesn’t need fixing. You don't need fixing."

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[demigoddessqueens]

Shadow and Bone S2

Or as it should be called “The Darkling and the No Good, Horrible Week”

Or “Inej and Kaz wrestle with their feelings”

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[that-sweet-thief]

just finished binge-watching season 2 of shadow and bone. my thoughts are mostly in disarray but the cringe is real.

this was an off-paced, haphazard fanfiction. it'd be just fine if the writers weren't paid for it but they actually are, so it's just... wow. I'm at best mediocre when writing in english and i reckon even i would do a better job of writing dialogue.

anyway, here's a list of my thoughts on the show, though it's more of a word vomit than a comprehensive series review:

no ivan or fedyor. immediate downvote for that alone. ivan should've survived so we could have a heartbreaking moment between him and fedyor across the two sides of the battlefield. i guess they thought there were too many characters and couples to juggle already. or maybe the actors weren't available, who knows.

costume design took a surprising turn for the worse: for example, nina's and zoya's dresses were eyesores. how anyone could make these two very attractive women look that frumpy i've no idea but they've managed. i liked sankta neyar's costume, sturmhond's coat aaand that's about it.

the settings were more varied, so glad we've seen a little of bhez ju. the introductory map-to-location shots were very helpful for people who haven't read the books, namely my gf who fell asleep halfway through the show. also, if the music had any tracks that weren't already from the first season i'll be incredibly surprised, it's that repetitive.

they've messed up nikolai as a character mainly because the actor misunderstood his assignment, though i don't know what else he could've done with the mess he was given. while he's still sympathetic, lovely and witty, paddy's nikolai thinks of sturmhond as just another disguise, rather than who he really is, to the point of gifting said disguise to mal. that's irreconcilable with my understanding of nikolai, whose real mask is the bastard prince.

tamar & tolya were better realised than expected. along with the exclusion of the soldat sol cult, their zealotry's scrapped which is a big win for them. i enjoyed their scenes, great casting too. though, as an ardent kanej fan, i cannot in good conscience support the blink-and-you'll-miss-it tolya/inej moment. tamar/nadia had maybe a minute of screen time but better than nothing.

sankta neyar was a pleasant surprise, great idea to show how powerful durasts can also be. people often disregard materialki so this was refreshing. what i liked about her is how formal, collected, old-fashioned she both appeared and acted, as if her manners and speech style were leftover from a few centuries ago, kudos to her actor tuyen do.

the crows' arc was... lacking in some way. maybe it's because pekka rollins' attitude towards kaz and his group is very different than how it was established in the books, here he was way too proactive and less secure in his position in ketterdam for some reason; anyway rollins' framing of the crows felt off to me.

the crows' character dynamics are interesting and the saving grace of the show, all kanej and wesper scenes were great. seriously, the tension of kanej & cuteness of wesper nearly destroyed me.

they did helnik dirty, of course, but that was a given.

freddy carter outperformed everyone this season, i really think out of all of them he's given the best performance, sometimes even better than ben barnes and that's practically heresy coming from me, his devoted fan since ages ago when i first saw narnia.

i kinda dig that they brought in a tidemaker (fruszi) who's practically an early version of zoya for the darkling's side but her death felt cheap. i mean, the crows arriving to help out nikolai and his team at the very last second was already eye roll inducing, but then nikolai shoots her in the neck? cheap. also, if she and zoya came to face off that'd be interesting since they share so many similarities. i personally don't think it will but if the series continued along with the darkling's canon resurrection, i wish she'd lived and replaced elizaveta, she certainly seemed devoted enough.

david and genya made me cry. that's all i have to say on them.

baghra... where do i even start with her? baghra's nonchalance, her one-eighty about deciding to help alina find more amplifiers is stark raving bonkers imho. yet at least most of her scenes weren't as bad as they could've been, her proving to mal he was the firebird and her saving genya as well as alina actually came across better than the ultra passive, constantly berating version in the books. her death felt less dramatic but more spiteful, though aleksander's reaction to her death was appropriately heartbreaking. ben & zoe sold it so well, my eyes actually welled up.

speaking of sasha, his death is soooo badly executed, it's impossible not to be pissed off at the way they filmed it. even the books were more sympathetic to his demise and alina herself showed much more empathy for him at the end. it's genuinely disturbing how they framed it, makes alina seem more like a villain than the reluctant hero she used to be. i guess it fits with the surprise ending: how she kinda becomes what she sought to destroy, poetic irony and all, but still...

aleksander's whole arc this season makes him seem more desperate and pathetic and so, less of a tyrant: he doesn't even take control of the country or more than a small group of grisha let alone become tsar, instead the apparat rules over ravka on behalf of the lantsovs till nikolai is coronated. he and his people constantly lose to some clever last minute thwarting by alina's allies. the only thing scary about him is the nichevo'ya, the shadow monsters, which in the books are entirely under his control and that of course makes it all the more terrifying. here though, sick and tired and dying, he's merely desperate and fearful. the lack of wins on aleksandr's part really defeats the purpose of the writers' continuous attempts at making him simply the most terrible, horrifying and supreme villain of gregverse.

nope, can't get over it, aleksander practically died in her arms in the books, here she just looks down at him like she's the villain. i guess she now is. oh and mal's retort to sasha about dying in her arms was somehow a foreshadowing, see, but sasha doesn't get that because he's evil, see? gosh, so patronising.

since they've constantly emphasised this season how it was the fold's and thus sasha's fault that grisha were persecuted (not that this explains the ceaseless mistreatment, endangerment and more often death that grisha face everywhere they go, of course, nor does it explain his backstory) i gathered they'd go for a retcon but i didn't imagine they'd exonerate baghra, the apparat and tie the border wars with shu han and fjerda to the fold's existence entirely. the reason the war broke out in the first place was because those countries' fundamental approach to grisha was to kill them or worse. that is what grisha persecution meant. and now... what, the war is over, just like that? i have no words.

also, the exclusion of the "don't let me be alone" line. now that I think about it, those writers should be fed to nichevo'ya.

alina, alina, alina... sure, she's a self-insert, so her motivations don't make sense anyway, but as sweet as jessie is and how hard she tries, show!alina is now an equally awful mess as book!alina. the two things i liked about her this season were her manipulation attempt through the tether and the ending where she goes a bit darkling. the latter, i really like. i wrote a fragment of a power reversal fic before but never put it up, might just do that now.

i'll admit: it's rather funny how mal dumps alina after losing his amplification because he doesn't feel the same way anymore. he doesn't know if it was him being an amplifier that made them love one another. see how easily he turns away from alina? if i were aleksander, I'd be laughing at her from the grave.

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[lilisouless]

God has her favorites and with "god" i mean "Leigh"and with favorites i mean "Wylan" because

-Mal almost had debris crushing him and freaking died

-Kaz bought a ship and found her parents

-Matthias betrayed his mentor and the army that raised him

-David made that speech

-Nikolai handed her the throne

But what did Wylan had to do to get Jesper? Nothing, he just existed and the man´s mind was already all over him,no effort, bet not even he know how he did it.

"lied to his dad" oh please, thats just Wylan being himself

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[bella-rose29]

been thinking about pirates and privateers and the difference between them

privateers need a license and can only operate during times of war, and pirates operate at all times and have no license

licenses (letters of writ) had to be signed by the monarch

so does that mean that

a) Ravka was at war with someone (I'm pretty sure it was anyway but I can't remember)

b) nikolai got his stepfather to sign his privateer's license???

c) when he then became king and Sturmhond was still active, did he sign his own license???

I need the answers because the image of a Tailored nikolai going to see the king of Ravka to get his privateer's license signed is ridiculous to me

#nikolai lantsov #grishaverse #the grisha trilogy #the grisha series #grishaverse spoilers #shadow and bone spoilers

[gold-as-hera]

Me @ all the Nikolina shippers after season 2:

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[dhampiravidi]

me, realizing that both Sebastian Morgenstern & Aleksander Morozova got stabbed by the girl who was their nemesis—the same girl they became sexually obsessed with because they were obsessed with ruling the world alongside the only person who could be their “equal” 😳

oh & their parents were obsessed with making them strong

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