#the good place analysis

[witchinatree]

i love when i finish consuming the most tragic gut-wrenching and truly devestating media and i go look at fandom posts and they're all batshit

#or like SUPER depressing analysis posts #there is no other option #the prime example im thinking of is mike wazowski/sully as elias bouchard and peter lukas respectfully #reblogged that shit instantly #dont get me wrong i love batshit posts #its like collective coping #good omens #the magnus archives #your turn to die #witch's heart #the owl house #kind of #the good place #the boy and the heron

[misted-buttercup-enjoyer]

In "Too Young" when Princess Bubblegum talked about how she "never get to act like a kid" and how she wishes she "could stay like this with you, but..." I started crying. This poor girl grew up in the harsh world of early Ooo, she spawned from a living wad of gum and built a house for her brother, she tried to have a family but they betrayed her and she internalized that as "ignorance is bliss." Because shes intelligent, and she's sure not happy, and they were intelligent, and they weren't happy either, atleast Neddy is happy when he's just sucking on those roots and blissfully unaware of his surrondings. Homegirl didn't have any childhood at all, even Marceline had a more carefree childhood when she was with Simon, and she grew up in the literal apocalypse with three parental abandonments. Simon kept her entertained and cared for her, but PB was protecting Neddy and scavenging for resources, on her own, just to stay alive, her entire childhood. God. People dont talk enough about how tragic her childhood was, I feel freaking awful.

#she just.......she never got to grow up properly #i hope she and marceline get a good 500 years to just be dumb teenagers together because they've both gone through way too much #funnily enough though i feel like the fandom places more emphasis on marceline's suffering probably because it's more relatable #which y'know makes sense I'm not gonna judge anyone for that I love Marceline and her childhood was tragic too. #I once saw someone say that PB living in the Candy Kingdom and Ice King living the Ice Kingdom is for them kind of like living #in their own heads. and. yeah that sums it up to a tea. everyone else go home they explained it perfectly. #poor kiddo #princess bubblegum #bonnibel bubblegum #pb adventure time #simon petrikov #marceline abadeer #adventure time #too young #lemongrab #they make me sad #cryyyyyy #candy kingdom #adventure time analysis #spontaneous analysis

[noperopesaredope]

I've been thinking about Eleanor Shellstrop again because people won't stop liking/reblogging my other post on her, and I think I realized something random about her and what makes her so fun: Eleanor Shellstrop starts out the series as an "It's Always Sunny" character.

I've done it. I've cracked the code. That is Eleanor Shellstrop in a nutshell. An IASiP character who manages to have a redemption arc.

I've broken my brain a little.

#eleanor shellstrop #the good place #tgp #character analysis #realization #it's always sunny in philadelphia #it's always sunny in philly #iasip #having thoughts about my girl again #god i can't explain just how much i love her #tgp eleanor

[sitzfleischh]

Thinking about the S2 finale from Aziraphale's isolated/distorted perspective truly makes me want to fly into the sun.

Like he's spent his whole time on earth getting proof after proof that Crowley wants to do good, to help people. Despite Crowley's protestations Az KNOWS that he's (from Az's perspective) an angel on the inside.

He's been in love with Crowley and known it since at least 1941 but spent until the apocalypse-that-wasn't repressing the shit out of his feelings for fear of having his everything wrecked by heaven.

After their bodyswap stunt he just barely starts to believe he's safe enough now to act on his feelings and spends four years working up to it, getting better at causally touching Crowley, spending more time together than they ever have before, but terrified the whole time not of reprisal from heaven but of the idea that maybe Crowley doesn't like him back in the same way. He gets way too invested in getting Nina and Maggie together because really it's just an excuse to create further circumstances for him to be close to Crowley and figure out whether he also has romantic feelings for him.

Then the whole thing with Gabriel/Beez happens and he's given-- as far as he knows-- concrete proof that consorting with a demon gets you cast out of heaven. But he's worked up to it anyway and (a bit of conjecture here) I think he was planning to tell Crowley he loves him but then got interrupted by Metatron.

But hey, there you go, even better, he doesn't have to risk anything!! He can make Crowley an angel again -- he clearly WANTS to do good but he's just had to repress those feelings (and Az knows all about how it feels to repress feelings) because his side wouldn't approve. And they can be together AND be safe AND fix heaven!!!

But what's this? Crowley doesn't want that? He's rejecting Aziraphale, rejecting doing good, rejecting saving the earth just like he did the last time things got too hard, at the bandstand. He just wants to run away again because clearly none of this matters to him as much as Aziraphale thought it did.

And then he's kissing him-- the thing he's wanted SO BADLY for SO LONG, the thing he was hoping his ball dance would bring them too-- but it's not because he actually loves him romantically the way that Az does, no, he's just tempting him again, using his demonic ways to try to get Az to give up on everything and run away, just give up and let it all become a puddle of burning goo because he's too afraid to fight, and to express the desire to good that Az knows he has inside him.

And then... Then Aziraphale forgives him anyway. He forgives him because he still loves him, even after all of this, even if Crowley doesn't love him back and has used something so vulnerable against him for his own gain. He forgives him, and Crowley says "don't bother" and he leaves.

#good omens #GUTTED just GUTTED #good omens meta #good omens analysis #my good omens meta #and the reason they have to TALK about what theyre ACTUALLY THINKING #because if they could have these conversations from a place of knowing that they DO love each other and want to be together #it would be so much clearer #Ugh i need season 3 NOWWWW #anyway these two are both so repressed and traumatized cant wait for them to grow #sitzfleischh.meta

[kyouka-supremacy]

The very opening in BEAST and the implications of The Heartless Cur about Akutagawa constantly stuck in a dissociated state as a child in the slums does incomprehensible levels of damage to my brain. Living in a state where you're always starving, always fighting for scraps, being beaten by adults, waking up next to dead friends, having to maim or potentially kill at such an early age, escaping from traffickers so often, etc. are all so horrific that it's no wonder why he was called a child without emotions. Having to experience the grief, pain, and terror as it comes and goes in his situation would be a kind of hell that would be impossible to survive. Part of his brain probably shut itself off to avoid any more pain and distress. I have so many thoughts about it. There is something extremely heartbreaking about how despite living completely dissociated from his emotions, and possibly pain --to the point that he stared off into empty space while being beaten, or couldn't even express enjoyment at warm meals-- his priority had always been taking care of and protecting Gin and his friends. The one panels where he (gently, i have to mention) holds his friend that had frozen to death in their sleep, and him cutting a man's arm off for harming his friends imply that he either had the responsibility or took it upon himself to deal with the difficult and dangerous stuff. I am in the trenches losing the idgaf war

Akutagawa, upon feeling rage and hatred for the first time, thinks, "I've gained the ability to feel. Therefore, I'm no longer a heartless cur." Implies that he probably didn't see himself as anymore human than anybody other adult, which, considering that is all he had been called, he probably internalized. His friends were capable of smiling and experiencing joy with each other and also capable of experiencing sadness too. Did he ever look at his friends having fun and think something was wrong with him to be unable to feel anything or express it if he did? How did he feel looking at his sister--his other half, the most important person - while trying his best to take care of her and be the best for her while not being all there? How does it affect him now? So many questions and I'm going insane about it. Sorry for dumping this onto you but I needed a victim

Anon, have mercy on me

I think that Gin is such an important part of Ryuunosuke's character exactly for that. It is impossible to transcend from it– if you forget about her, you're just failing to comprehend Ryuunosuke. Gin is literally the only factor that keeps Ryuunosuke human. We see him lash out and we see him howl and we see him being beaten up and we see him act with not an ounce of reason; for most of the story, we see nothing of Ryuunosuke but a rabid animal. But I think the moment he shows to truly care about Gin, that's the moment the reader starts perceiving him as human, as well as the moment we start feeling sympathy for him. Unexpectedly and unpredictably, he shows a side of him that isn't violent and bestial, a side of him that is caring, that is loving towards a family member, something that is easy to relate to; then, even him can be human. Even in the slums, even when everything else of him seems numb and detached and heartless, he still cared for his family first. He still made flowers with his ability and retaliated against anyone who mistreated his siblings. When one of his friends got hurt, he carried them on his back. When a dog killed his friend, he mercilessly slaughtered all the dogs in the vicinity. What's that, if not the only way someone who never knew anything but violence and pain has left to express love?

Of course Ryuunosuke had internalized his being not human, of course he believes that. Of course he's the first who considers himself a dog. But that's what makes Ryuunosuke's character development so meaningful, isn't it? Isn't that true that it wouldn't result as impactful if such a strong ability to hate and such a strong ability to love didn't come from a place of true incapacity to feel? It is, alright, a simplistic perspective, but Ryuunosuke's story really is the succession of quests that have him gain emotions, and with every new one he becomes a little more human, till he's reached the fulfillment of his being. Maybe love really is the ultimate thing that makes us human.

#ryūnosuke akutagawa #gin akutagawa #bsd #bsd beast #bsd analysis #mine #people asks me stuff #Sorry this is so messy. My brain really went all over the place while writing this I have so many conflicting feelings about Beast- #I could never wish to put in words. I wrote and discarded ten paragraphs and then wrote and discarded some more #Akutagawa was good since the start. I think that's the case even where the author pushes to make the reader think otherwise #because I believe in the inherently good nature of humans even if the author doesn't. End post

[cupidswurld]

thinking about supernaturals circular narrative. how i don’t (and won’t) watch sitcoms because of the conventions of a circular narrative.

the parallels of how characters are reduced into one-dimensional imitations of who the audience perceived them to be, boiled down into their most defining, dividing traits— a phenomenon exclusive to the intrinsic nature of sitcoms. thinking about how everything that is learnt in one episode, is forgotten in the next— how there is no progress, how there is no change and everything will always, always stay the same for the sake of the audience where nothings new.

part of why dean felt he wouldve been better off dead, about why he didnt deserve to be saved, was because he could never make any difference. how they were trapped by the same story, over and over again, that nothing mattered no matter what he did, because he'd just end up in the very same position he was 15 years ago. even before the insertion of chuck's storyline, before freewill, the pervasive hand of the writers have always held them down from the very first episode

#supernatural #dean winchester #sam winchester #metanatural #supernatural meta #destiel #castiel #team free will #spn #spn analysis #guys I'm sorry but im seriously genuinely sickly obsessed with the metanarrative of supernatural theres nothing else like it #but also I really do stand by the 'I dont watch sitcoms bc of the circular narrative' #like are you not bored... this is referring from first hand experience to friends and community #however the good place is an exception and should always be hailed as the one good sitcom to exist #but please argue with me on that note! #me when sitcom characters are diluted into the most recognisable parody of the character they once were for greatest consumption #willowcoded's Sisyphean post was everything to me btw

[goatbeard-goatbeard]

when Gabriel was in that meeting in Heaven, do you think he could hear the fly buzzing

#no you see we’re much more Welcoming now #of course there’s a place for you in God’s house! #all you have to do is forget #(except it’s much harder to forget now that you can hear the fly buzzing) #good omens #good omens spoilers #good omens 2 #good omens 2 spoilers #the archangel fucking gabriel #beelzebub #ineffable bureaucracy #ex christian #exvangelical #good omens 2x06 #good omens shitpost #good omens meta #good omens analysis #boxfly

[smolstarthief]

Ok I need to get this ramble off my chest before I forget: I feel like people completely misunderstand Sumi's motivation and breaking point for her first/false awakening. Why? Well let's dive in!

I've seen people complain about it and how seems like it's all about losing her scholarship but dialogue after that awakening actually painted a different picture. I can see WHY it seemed that way but then this part happened:

She WAS upset about it but even she admitted that the school wasn't exactly wrong in this (As assholish as the VP was, he wasn't entirely wrong either sadly).

Instead, contrary to popular belief, she was more upset that she caused trouble for and dragged Maruki into this mess to begin with.

Not only that but she overheard the vice principal basically insulting her behind her back:

Now keep in mind he had a point and didn't know she was in earshot but still it was completely out of line for him to even say that, about a student who already lost her twin not too long ago no less.

On top of that not only did she feel horrible for Maruki but she also horrible for even Joker getting dragged into her mess...

She felt useless and a huge burden to everyone. A failure... Even to her deceased twin sister. Now regardless of which sister died, it had to be a massive blow to her mentally. Especially when you consider that Shujin might have aware of who she really is but still said all those things and did all this to her... Now with Sumi's overall mental state combined with the filter occasionally slipping... Little wonder she finally snapped during that awakening. It's even showcased after it too:

So while the dialogue leading up to her awakening can seem like it's all about the scholarship and losing her special treatment, it really wasn't. She really didn't care about the treatment at all as she had said previously, it's just that she feels that she's hurting and letting people like Maruki, Joker, and her sister down.

Hell, even this dialogue is less about the scholarship too! It's mostly about she's been treated and how much the school is pressuring her and how it's effecting her loved ones and it's valid! Fuck Shujin!

Now the only downside is that she's awakening as a fake, a fraud, not Sumire Yoshizawa but Kasumi Yoshizawa and that was the biggest thing she was missing hence Cendrillon's words during that one:

"So adamant... Rather than accept a life in cinders... You'd strive towards splendor-- you know the risk... Well, if those really are the shoes you've chosen... Then we'll dance to the end. Iam thou, thou art I... Accept this contract... The spell cast upon you."

Regardless though, to boot: She wasn't actually being "whiny," she was just being empathetic and felt worse about herself and this was when she was being Kasumi! It later perfectly ties into her dynamic with Maruki and why she felt empathy towards him after regaining her true self as Sumire!

She had been in his shoes and understands! She's a strong girl! She had FUCKING EMPATHY!! And that's even when she was being someone else. Her awakening as Kasumi wasn't about a dumb scholarship, it was more about her feeling like she's a burden and letting people down... Especially those she cares about like her sister, Dr. Maruki, and Joker to name examples!

#persona 5 #p5 #persona 5 royal #p5r #starchild rambles #p5r spoilers #sumire yoshizawa #kasumi yoshizawa #dr maruki #takuto maruki #ren amamiya #akira kurusu #character analysis #analysis #tbh I was one of those people but then I played the game #like good lord I know she was a selfish person but she's not horrible overall #whether she was Kasumi or Sumire she still has empathy for others #it perfectly plays into her arc and conflict #it's not her acting like an entitled brat or being inconsistent #it all fell into place and she wasn't awakening the first time for selfish reasons #the only problem was that she wasn't being fully honest about even herself (her identity) #but she was overall being real there considering that she still cares about dr maruki as Sumire

[trolls-poppy-specialist]

First Trolls Tumblr Post!!!

not sure if this point has been made but…

Suddenly had a trolls brainwave

During tbt end credits scene when poppy and branch sang ‘no matter where you’re from, the apple don’t fall far from it’ is indirectly hinting a broppy baby. Actually hoping so tbh.

And also the line ‘it runs in the family.’ Maybe the branch and poppy family trees will finally be connected in a fourth movie…

Let this ship go places 😃

Might someday go on a rant about all the broppy scenes and analyse the song lyrics ;)

#trolls band together #trolls #dreamworks #broppy #queen poppy #branch trolls #poppy trolls #branch x poppy #poppy x branch #let me do this #some yummy critical analysis of this ship that I ship too #let this ship go places on a boat across the seven seas #trolls 3 #trolls spoilers #hoping very much for a broppy baby #Or at least a proposal and wedding #It feels good #the only thing for me to do after watching the movie is to vibe and party

[ganondoodle]

sorry about that last rambling post, i didnt mean to sound like its worse than it may be, but i got no ... lense to view it through but my own, and the main reason i wrote it out anyway was bc i needed to get it out (even if posting it might be not the greatest idea) .. and bc it kinda showcases, i think, how my stories kinda write themselves, involuntarily in a way? its not like im not putting in any effort- but its like .. i cant STOP it always keeps going and even the dumbest idea stays in some form, its very hard to get everything in place bc theres so much going on all the while i am very slow at making anything, writing or drawing anything, especially anythign coherent is very hard bc not only do i get constantly distracted, i get distracted by my own thoughts suddendly skipping to a certain scene and me having to go throguh imagining in detail NO MATTER how many times i have done it before for the same scene that i already decided on how it goes, when theres a new idea it can take over my entire day bc i cant let go of it-

not trying to sound either like im the only that has that sort of problem, but i think its a big part as of why i start tso many projects without being able to finish them, or even start them bc i constantly have to fight my own thoughts from derailing into another daydream session, thinking of too much too fast than i can ever draw or even write about and not knowing what is worthwhile and what isnt (im telling you i have no idea what is good and what isnt, idk why but for all i know all things i do could be trash, or they all could be bad, maybe the one i thinnk is decent is actually worse than the things i deem not good enough and once i start to think no this isnt good enough i stop having fun making or thinking it bc im trying to do better

honestly its kind of impressive that i can get anything out at all, not to pat myself on the back there but even if i hate how long it takes me, considering how much im having to work just to start working on something at all, the fact that i could post stuff coherent enough for some people to understand AND LIKE is something i should be a little more proud of

#ganondoodles talks #personal #sorry today is a bit of a brain fart day #got a headache and have wasted the entire time until now (5pm) with watching old analysis videos i have watched 5 times already #and crying over undertales music #how much could i get done if i didnt have to deal with thought trains going 200 above speed limit #also didnt mean to sound mean to people who like the things i deem cringy #BC I DONT KNOW WHAT IM TALKIGN ABOUT 90% OF THE TIME #I DONT KNOW IF ITS GOOD maybe it is #my judgement of my own stuff is pretty random #.... maybe thats why i can work with fanstuff that adheres to lore better #bc it sets limits for me #it gives me options of rails to derail onto without falling straight into the woods #idk if that made sense either #... i need to start drinking more #(and i guess by calling some of my stuff cringe bc i am entirely unsure of its quality im trying to make myself smaller than i am) #(so if it turns out to be actually bad- im more safe from ridicule since LOOK I AM SELF AWARE) #and there i go letting my thoughts spin further #maybe ill delete both of these posts tomorrow when i realize how dumb this is to say in the first place

[systemrestart]

hey fellow Heaven Will Be Mine fans!! i'm currently working on creating a blog that compiles and organizes all the info in the game, on characters, the factions, the ship-selves, etc. it'll be mostly screenshots, but i also plan on making full text transcripts. i'm hoping this will make it much easier to pull whatever info you may need, for analysis, fics, fanart, etc!

if anyone knows of some custom themes that are good for displaying lots of consecutive images and using readmores, let me know!

#hwbm #of course the wiki is a good resource for info but i thought it'd be really nice to have a place #with all the info compiled and easily sortable #and the wiki doesnt have a lot of direct transcripts or quotes or whatnot. which would be very useful for analysis #working on setting it up now. it'll have it's own tagging system too so i wont flood the tags ;;

[serpentarius]

I'm on my S1 OFMD rewatch before I dive back into S2, and I'm only now realizing something.

So, we can pretty much all agree that Ed's transformation into the Kraken by the end of Episode 10 (and leading into 2x01) is an intense one, especially considering he's only known Stede for a few weeks. (I know the descent into detached violence is primarily egged on by Izzy, but for all intents and purposes, the pivotal trigger is Stede leaving Ed.)

Here's the thing though. Ed's depression and subsequent spiral into the Kraken isn't just about Stede the person. It's about all the things Stede represents.

Sure, Ed's fallen hard for Stede. And for any of us who have gone through a particularly hard-hitting breakup (or been ghosted by someone we really liked), we can easily understand the deep heartache. But there's so much more to it than just Ed's feelings for him.

When we first meet Ed in Episode 4, he's already at wit's end. He's fed up with life and searching for a new purpose. He's already reached legendary status as Blackbeard, so of course the question is: what's next? He even toys with the idea of dying ("Haven't done that before, have I?"), and actively acknowledges that his physical presence on a ship has become obsolete. Just the name and flag alone instil the fear of God into other sailors/pirates. And at this point in Season 1, it doesn't even seem like Ed's super keen on pillaging and plundering, except for when he and his crew get to go into teaching mode when they're showing Stede's crew how to raid. But even that scene goes to show that he only enjoys it when there's some larger purpose at play.

Ed wants to be known for more than the reputation that's currently out in the world. ("Is this what they think I look like? Fucking viking vampire clown with.... nine guns all over him?" & "I'm a ghost. There's no chaos, there's no drama, there's no fuckin' life!")

He's itching to be more than this. He doesn't want to be a ghost, or the "shell of a man" that Izzy later accuses him of being.

And Stede—Stede is the person who sees something more in him. Who allows him to be softer and sillier. A human; not the larger-than-life Mad Devil Pyrate Blackbeard. Ed feels seen, perhaps for the first time in his life. And he proceeds to spend a glorious, genuinely happy few weeks with Stede.

So then cut to 1x10 when Ed's staring into the flame of the candle, eating marmalade in his blanket fort and crying while wrapped in Stede's robe. He sees everything he's lost. He was on the cusp of something new, a chance to break free from the Blackbeard persona - but it was ripped away in an instant, ripped away before he even had a real chance to explore this path.

He desperately wanted to distance himself from Blackbeard, from the Kraken, and thought Stede was his ticket to this happier future. One filled with excitement (and warmth, and good food, and possibly even orgasms). Ed told Stede that the last few weeks were the most fun he'd had in ages, years, maybe ever. And now it's all gone; and he's mourning the loss of that hope.

Where does he go from here?

#thankfully we know the answer #and it's to a GOOD HAPPY PLACE WITH STEDE BY HIS SIDE #s2 is really recontextualizing a lot of s1 for me #I highly recommend a rewatch of the whole series #ofmd meta #our flag means death #ofmd s2 spoilers #ofmd season 1 #edward teach #blackbeard #ed teach #ofmd #ofmd thoughts #ofmd analysis

[goldiipond]

YOUR ART IS SOOO SWEET AND YUMMY ive been sucked in by your raydon propaganda i need to hear more

OOOOOHG THANK YOU HELL YEAH !!!! JUMPING AROUND SO MUCH

and i am soooooo normal about raydon you have no idea<3 i've been meaning to make a more in-depth analysis on their dynamic and why i like them as a ship for someone else who asked but i haven't had the chance to organize all my thoughts yet </3

tbh the biggest thing is i just really like their development through the series because like. don is shown to really admire ray and obviously pre-escape ray is experiencing the horrors and is actively pushing everyone besides emma and norman away and i really like seeing them grow closer after ray is finally allowed to begin healing it's very sweet to me <3

their dynamic is just really good in general and i think it is very underappreciated. and in the context of romance specifically i like the idea of them finally being allowed to get to know each other and seeing don's admiration turn into genuine love while ray tries to process his feelings (and probably has a few crises over it<3) and i think don being such an openly affectionate and caring person would definitely help ray as he learns to handle recieving affection and giving it as well. also it's really sweet seeing how emotional ray makes don at several points in canon and i like thinking about him just being so overjoyed whenever ray shows him any sort of affection (and ray noticing this and making a mental note to do it more often <3)

tldr theyre both very sensitive people in different ways and their development is very sweet and the would be so good to each other and they are cute. also they are funny as fuck

#skye's ramblings #i have soo many good panels of them hoarded i will save them for The Big Post i suppose. when the raydon essay drops then youll all see #ishould really compile all my little raydon analysis posts into a more accessible place i know i have them but well. i talk a lot <3 #BUT THAANK YOU AGAIN THEYRE EVERYTHING TO MEE !! ALSO hello new mutual im waving very big #my friend rachel fullscoreshenanigans has a really good analysis post abt their development also. i will find it if i rember <3 #or she'll see this post and link it herself rachel fucking loves links. pspsps #mintypsii #shrimps squad #tpn

[jakeperalta]

I literally think being in the taylor fandom is making me a worse person like I am so not a hater at heart and yet I just get so irritated by the fandom that it makes me feel like the most negative bitter person :/

#my previous tags on that ask about how kelsea has similarities with taylor this year has really made me realise #like i see kelsea being very public in her post breakup relationship and doing things like lyric changes on stage or kissing after a show #and i'm like 'aw that's nice for them :) if they're all loved up why not show it :)' #and then i see those things from taylor and i'm like 😐😒🫤 #and the difference is that with kelsea i can see it and move on but with taylor i know i'm gonna see a million posts about it #and weird overly invested takes and analysis and annoying jokes #and it's meant that my automatic reaction is annoyance even though i'm annoyed at the fandom and not taylor #anyway this is just one example but i'm just realising that this fandom is like.. not a good place for me really #but it's tough when i've been so embedded in it for years and it's been such a good fun community at times #i'm trying to slowly retreat but idk it's not working that well #also doesn't help when my other fandoms are all quiet/on hiatus currently so there's no escape lol #talking

[psychologylovingintj]

a short analysis of INTJ characters and their trauma

thinkin' bout INTJ anti-heroes and villians and how they always seem to have underlying trauma from their childhoods.

INTJ anti-heroes are some of the most complex, incredible characters, especially when written correctly

oftentimes, many of them have something major that happened while they were younger (ex. abusive parents or bullying) and it seems to manifest in them in an interesting way. us INTJs prefer to ignore and repress our emotions, but obviously, trauma doesn't listen to that.

a lot of INTJ characters become numb to emotion because of the trauma they experienced. they become dissociated and eager to forget their pasts. but part of trauma is confronting and moving on from what happened in the past by gaining closure, not denying, ignoring and pushing it away entirely. so, no, INTJs are not emotionless creatures. we just typically deal with emotional issues in different (sometimes unhealthy) ways.

yet other characters (typically the INTJ villians we see in media) get stuck in an Ni-Fi loop. they bypass their rational decision making (Te aux) when making decisions. they wallow in their emotions and lose all touch with the outside world and reality. they're dissociated and eager to forget their pasts, but in a different way. they turn to violence and want revenge.

i see people argue that a very obvious INTJ character "has to be an INFJ (or INFP), because they cried about their trauma!" no, for one thing, that's not how MBTI works (see: cognitive functions and the Te/Fi axis vs. the Fe/Ti axis), and that's not how people work.

on another note, often, a main part of an INTJ character's arc is overcoming their trauma. it is such a recurring theme that i just bet on it happening sometime in the book/movie whenever i find an INTJ character.

and, of course, the way characters act in media tend to reflect the way people act in real life.

INTJs are often ridiculed and bullied in their school years because we are different from others. our brains work differently and we don't fit in. people undermine how much trauma bullying and childhood abuse can create, and how we're often not taught the correct ways to deal with it, so we just get stuck carrying it our life.

tl;dr - my two points:

INTJ anti-heroes and villians are some of the most complex and interesting characters to unpack, as they often have some sort of trauma that must be overcame for their arc to be complete

just because an INTJ character shows emotion, it doesn't automatically make them an INFJ

#im specifically thinking about a few characters here btw #mainly kim dokja as the anti-hero and henry creel as the villian #they're good examples and i relate to both of them a lot #of course all INTJs are different and this is a bit of a generalization #i just needed a place to get my thoughts out #tw trauma #tw bullying #tw abuse mention #mbti #intj #INTJ #infj #INFJ #mbti analysis

[phoenixkaptain]

There is something so comforting about characters who choose not to be evil.

Like, Luke Skywalker stands on the precipice of not coming back, almost let’s his rage and fear overtake him, and you can see him realize that. You can see the moment where he makes the conscious decision to take the hard way out of this. You can see him choose to stop, choose to control his own impulses, and choose to show mercy on a being that has not showed or been shown mercy in a very long time.

Or Cissie King-Jones in the Young Justice run. Her school was attacked, the woman who got Cissie out of her horrible living situation was murdered, and Cissie was inadvertently shown the tape that the murderer made of killing her, where he made her beg to live but shot her anyway. Cissie is rightfully pissed. Cissie hunts down the shooter. Cissie makes him beg for his life, makes him fear that she’s going to kill him. And, Superboy comes in to remind her that she doesn’t want to be a killer, but it’s Cissie herself who stops. It’s Cissie herself who realizes that she doesn’t want to be in this position, that she’s scared and feels alone and vulnerable and she doesn’t know what to do. Cissie pulls herself out of the situation, she decides that she can’t kill someone who isn’t worth going to prison for. She makes that choice, even though it’s the most difficult choice she’s made.

Peter Parker’s violent thoughts are often portrayed as a joke, especially early on, but Peter is always holding himself back. He is constantly making the choice not to hurt people. He is always conscious of his super strength and how easily he could hurt someone or kill someone with it. He is always aware of his own potential to cause pain. But he chooses not to. He chooses to keep his touch light, even when he could make the excuse he was distracted. He is always making that choice, he always makes the choice to be a better person, he always tries so damn hard to be a halfway decent person, even on days he wishes he could be awful and selfish and cruel.

There’s just something about characters who have walked that line. Characters who stopped themselves and thought “I don’t want to do this.” Characters who are scared and who worry that their capacity for evil alone makes them less good. Characters who decide that it doesn’t matter, because they’re going to try to be a better person whether the universe allows it or not.

I don’t know. I just love those characters who had to go through Hell to be what they eventually become. Characters who are broken down and build themselves back up even stronger. Characters who put the reins on their impulses and decide that they’re in control, not their instincts and not anybody who might desire to control them.

There’s something immensely comforting that some of the most powerful characters in media are not made any less powerful or any less heroic because of things they cannot control, like their thoughts. They can only control how they respond to those thoughts. That’s what separates them from villains, that’s what makes them so powerful, they don’t choose the easy way out of things. Their willpower is stronger than steel. And it’s nice.

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