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shurisneakers · 2 years
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Summary: steve shuts himself away. you pull him along on a trip of a lifetime in an attempt to reconnect. great plan! except there's one big secret he's keeping from you that could change the course of your entire relationship, and there's no greasy stack of diner pancakes in the country big enough to hide behind.
(road trip!au, best friends to lovers)
Warnings: angst, mentions of death and violence, nightmares (?), mental health issues and disorientation, ptsd, swearing. lemme know if i missed anything and I'll tag it.
A/N: TAKE 2 MFS. a tarot reader lady on youtube told me to stop pushing and finally publish this fic lol. to my beloveds: tanya, ayesha, and chips ahoy traitor. thank you. ily.
pls know that this is my lil fic in my lil corner of the internet don't come at me if you don't like it, just block me <3
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Steve’s legs dangle languidly off the concrete shore. His palm should be pressed to the ground, keeping his balance, but they instead defiantly clasp around an old worn-out sketchbook. His fingers nimbly capture ships on the horizon, waves lapping at the wall several feet below him and the orange of the evening reflecting off of rusted metal.
He looks up for a moment when a horn blares, loud and good. A smile slips past as he snaps his notebook shut and places it beside him, clenching his eyes shut and deeply inhaling the saltiness in the air.
Life is warm. Life is stripped down to its bare essence and still, life is good.
Steve jerks awake.
For months he expected nightmares to drag him out of his sleep, heaving and wide-eyed.
For months they never arrive, leaving him with the saccharine sweetness of the sun’s heat on his skin and legs stretched over the harbour.
Decidedly, it is worse.
____
He's seen those apartments in the catalogues, on TV shows and more. Grey, with furniture placed methodically only where it was required. A fake plant to spruce it up, one painting adding just one colour-- maybe a yellow, or an orange-- amidst the whites and blacks.
He's always thought it looked too sanitised. Like an office, or the boardrooms he spent most of daylight in. You couldn't possibly live in a home where everything felt like a touch away from being corrupted; too clean, like no one had ever lived in it.
But mostly, he always thought it looked lonely.
His apartment was filled- and remained in the process of it, too- with knick-knacks. Posters of movies he hadn't yet seen and of ones from the past that he had, paintings from local artists selling on the street, stuff he'd wrestled back from the museums. They'd called it artefacts, Steve had always just called it his old notebooks and his mother's clay sculptures. Those rested on the mantle.
Nothing had been added to the house in months.
"Captain."
Steve blinks, long.
He lifts his eyes to the person opposite to him, dark tailored suit and pinned back hair, greying prematurely.
"Yes?" he asks, ring finger still covering his mouth as his palm holds up the weight of his jaw.
"You haven't said a word since you got here," she replies with a poisonously sweet smile.
"Was just listening to what everyone had to say," Steve lies, and it's the first of many he'll tell today.
A panel. Steve’s on a panel of experts. Security experts. He doesn't even fucking know why-- he's never been very good at predicting which new being was going to fall out of the sky and try to kill all his friends.
"Nothing to add?" Though her tone is friendly, her eyes unsettlingly held no emotion.
"Have a feelin' you all know what I'm gonna say," he replies.
There's a sigh at the end of the long table, clearing one's throat from the other. Steve's stare remains steadfast.
“Captain Rogers. Steve," she-- Councilwoman Murray, he suddenly remembers-- says with a tick in her voice, pleasantly. "What we're proposing-"
"I know. I heard you," he says, calm as ever. "You want to set up a base in space with weapons of mass destruction in case an event like the Blip were to happen again. While I appreciate your patience, Councilwoman, here's where you're going to have to put up with me because I'm gonna tell you what I've been sayin' every single time we've met: it doesn't make sense."
"It is for international peace," she sighs.
It became very clear in the first meeting that his beliefs don’t align with the rest of them, but they've committed and so has he. No matter how many people slid him deals under the table or offered him positions like president, his opinion wasn't going to shift.
"A base that falls under American jurisdiction, run by American soldiers, using American produced weapons, serving under the orders of an American government, serving on the basis of, and I'm quoting your proposal here, threats against the citizens of the United States of America." Steve arches a brow. "Doesn't sound real international to me, especially when you're planning on vetoing anyone who doesn't agree. Just a scare tactic to the rest of the world."
Another suffering sigh. He can see a smile threaten to creep up on Mona’s face.
"Besides, it's quite the budget you've allocated to this project," he continues, pushing forward the document. "I think it'd be better spent on the millions of people you say you're glad are back. Last I heard, they’re still waiting on the resources you've promised."
With the last word, there's a faint sense of deja vu warm in his chest. He's sure he's brought this up elsewhere, but he can't pinpoint where. It’s hard to remember how he gets from one place to another. Or is it hard to pay attention? He can’t tell the difference anymore, it didn’t matter much.
Years, he has to correct himself.
Everything looked the same as it did six years ago. The last thing that he remembers adding to the decor was a framed picture of you and him at a baseball game before it all went to shit in Germany. That sat on the mantle, too.
He walks past it every morning, diverting his eyes to the kitchen before he catches sight of it and the pit forms in his stomach again. Still, he can't find it in himself to remove it.
Steve drags a razor across his cheek. It cleanly wipes away the foam, leaving behind clear skin, neat. Some days he just used soap when he couldn't open the shelf and reach for the shaving cream.
He turns his head down to slosh the razor around in the water. He remembers when he used to like the sound, thought it was fun.
There is red when he lifts his head back up to the mirror. Piercing red.
“It’s not that easy, Rogers.”
“Isn’t it?” Steve shoots a glance at the head of the table. "Seems pretty damn easy to me to decide what the money should go towards, and it's not the next tax write-off for the megalomaniac who's funded the doughnuts for this meeting."
The member’s jaw tightens and he sinks back into his seat again. The room’s quiet, an amalgamation of awkward stares and rolling eyes.
Because of course, Steve didn’t understand the problem. Steve didn’t understand the politics of it all.
Steve's just there 'cause Captain America has to be.
There's a thin line of blood when he lifts his head back up to the mirror. It races from about half his cheek down to his jaw, bright crimson changing to a dull red as it dilutes.
Steve stares at it for several moments. His watch ticks, reminding him that he may be frozen but the world was still spinning around him. But it was 5am and he's got nowhere to be for at least three hours.
When he drags his stare away from the nick and to his eyes in the mirror, he remember how the air used to get sucked out of the room. The same clocks used to stop ticking.
There was nothing there. He was not there. It was empty and he looked back at himself, tired eyes and glowing skin.
But now everything goes on as it did before. There is still nothing there, not even him. The air is still heavy in the bathroom and the watch keeps ticking.
Steve uses his thumb to wipe away the blood, and keeps going.
“Coffee, Captain Rogers?”
It’s a steady little routine they’ve fallen into. Mona asks him, always at precisely the right time, whether he would like a cup as they walk towards one of the many assigned conference rooms that day.
He told her yes once, and she committed his order to heart. It wasn't a big feat-- black, with no sugar and no cream-- but he appreciated it all the same. He carelessly downed it like a shot, ignoring the s as it goes down his throat.
Steve gently turns her down today, however. She quickly rats off a list of people he has to meet, pushing her glasses up the bridge of her nose in the process. He nods dimly, knowing that she'd send him a text with all the details anyway.
“You have to meet with Mr Langstaff at 12, and Mr Estrada at 1:30 to decide your press release. Y/N demands that you pick up the phone, and you have dinner with Mrs Madron at 8 at the Ritz about the ambassadorship.”
Steve's ears perk up, head snapping towards her. “What was that?”
“You have dinner at 8 with Mrs Madron at the Ritz,” Mona repeats slowly, deliberately.
“No, before that.”
She flips a page back on her notepad before reciting, “Y/N demands that you pick up the phone.”
Christ. 
Steve swiftly skims through his phone, brows furrowing when he finds nothing. It takes a second to hit that if you were to call him, it probably wouldn't be to his work number. The work phone had a few texts and missed calls he hadn't responded to yet. He would be meeting them in the next few days anyway, what was the damn hurry?
From Y/N
Been a few days, you around?
From Y/N
Mona says you're busy so I'm not gonna call, but I left a message with her. Don't feel pressured to respond immediately, it was mostly a joke
Fuck.
From Y/N
Just lemme know if you're good
He curses softly under his breath, before pressing a button and holding the phone up to his ear.
He ignores the people walking past, some doing a double take when they see him standing in the middle of the hallway on a random weekday.
“Y/N,” he says in greeting the second you pick up. "Hey."
“Steve,” you reply equally as quick. “You all right?”`
“'M sorry, it's been a while since I checked this phone. I‘m fine.”
He can hear you exhale slightly at the other end, and the snap of elastic on your skin. He waits patiently outside the conference room for the people to start filing in, but he estimates another ten minutes before they do.
“Sorry, Stevie, didn’t mean to worry you,” you say, prying the gloves away from your hand, “It's just-- the last time you missed a couple'a calls, I had to find out you’re enemy of the state from the receptionist.”
“No, I get it. I forgot to respond, it's my bad.” He keeps his phone on silent these days. The only communication he really responds to with urgency is what Mona deems critical.
 “We still meeting up for coffee today?”
Steve pinches the bridge of his nose hard. Of all the things to slip his mind in the middle of all the legal jargon and fundraising efforts.
He sneaks a glance at his watch, and then back at the meeting room where an assistant was placing glasses of water in front of seats, and back at his watch.
“We don’t have to, if you’re not up for it,” you remind him in the lingering silence. “I know your schedule is busy these days.”
He had conferences, and dinners, and calls to ignore, and people to scorn, because if he wasn't fighting, then he's gotta be doing more to be helping people out, right?
“4pm, at Whole Latte Love, wasn't it?” His eye catches Mona’s, who swiftly flips through several pages of her notebook to write down his new plan. “I’ll be there.”
“You sure?”
“‘Course.” The corners of his mouth lift softly. "Can't wait."
“All right.” He can hear the smile in your voice. It’d been a while. “See you there.”
The call ends with a soft click. His posture immediately stiffens again.
Mona’s attention is still on the notepad when she says, “Guess that cancels the video call with Jepsen at 4:15.”
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He pulls the brim of his cap even lower, if that was possible, fully intending to cover up his untrimmed hair. It didn't work very well; whatever was too long for the cap just stuck up in strange angles given how tight the hat was.
The smell of roasting coffee beans was intense, and a little hard to take in. He had been here loads of times before, but those visits had thinned out and the gaps in between each had increased exponentially over the last few years.
When he scours the area, all he sees are booths occupied with people speaking in hushed tones. It serves to remind him again that the world seemed a lot quieter now.
Six years ago, he couldn't take a step down a street without hearing cries for missing sons, aunts, friends. Then, of course, there was silence. Almost deafening, as people slowly picked themselves up, tried to make sense of the life they were living now.
It continued even when the Snapped were back. The parades were loud and the parties even louder but everything seemed muted. Almost like they expected the returned to leave again, cautious about how much energy they spent celebrating something that could disappear in an instant.
The chair scrapes against the linoleum floor, pulling his attention away from his lap.
He doesn't even know when he sat down.
“Please, don’t look so surprised.” You don’t go for a greeting, instead, taking note of the slightly dilated eyes. “Only you would wear a cap indoors and think it’s a good disguise.”
Steve glances around discreetly. “No one else noticed.”
“What, that you look like you want to hide?” You snort, laying all your stuff on the table after taking a seat. “Yeah, they did. Hi, by the way.”
If they did, they didn’t say anything.
"Hi," he says back. "You look good."
You narrow your eyes at him, before your face breaks into a small smile. "I didn't realise disarray and chaos was pleasing to you."
He shrugs. "You make it work."
Your head ducks with a smile and a small shake. “Did you order anything?”
"Not yet."
“Do you want to?” You pour over the menu in front of you even though you’ve been here before with him so many times you know exactly what you want. “Coffee, black, no sugar, no cream?”
Even though he declined Mona on the same offer, he takes you up on yours. It's always been hard to say no to you.
You quickly flag down the waitress, giving her your orders and a big smile and revert back to Steve.
“Haven’t heard from you in a while,” you say, leaning forward on your elbows. “How’s everything going?”
It hasn’t been on purpose-- well, it was-- but no one had really heard from him in a while.
“You know,” he draws out, “a lot of conversations with a lot of… interesting people.”
“Snobs?" you offer. "Uptight?”
“That's one way to put it.” There’s humour in his words but only a wisp of it on his face. “They’re thinkin’ of holding another carnival in a month.”
“What, like one obnoxious parade wasn’t enough already?”
“That’s what I told ‘em. But elections are coming up and the guy wants as much publicity as they can afford.” He restrains himself from rolling his eyes. “Tell me you're doing better on your side.”
“It’s like middle school all over again, Stevie.” The corner of your lip stretches thin in annoyance. “Ever since the return, everyone’s been fightin’ over desks and projects that we completed while they were gone.”
One of the most reputed labs in the world, some of the most formidable brains of nature and endless arguments over whose table gets to face the window, and who gets to sit nearest to the water cooler for better access to office gossip.
"Jesus," he says, before a familiar voice pinches him. Don't take the Lord's name in vain.
"Gets better."
Steve quirks an eyebrow.
The conversation gets cut short when the waitress sets down a cup in front of him and fills it nearly to the brim. It already smells better than the garbage they serve at the town hall, and he certainly could use a cup to make up for the fifty hours he'd spent awake so far.
"Thank you," he tells her before turning his attention to you. "Better how?"
“Well-- better is actually pretty subjective. Positions are shuffling around, people are moving.” You bite your lip. “They offered me a new job.”
He smiles for the first time that day, a big-toothed grin. "They did?"
"New title. Just fancier words for a person that runs that joint." You blow gently at your beverage, shoulders rising and falling nonchalantly. "Pays real well. Lot more access to resources, grants. Everything."
"Sounds like a dream," he says carefully, noting the lack of eye contact.
“I’m not sure if I’m gonna take it, though."
There it is. “Why?”
“Don't know if I want to." You shrug. "They only floated it by me a while ago, and it's pretty under wraps, so I have time. Don't have to answer 'em right away."
"Is there something going on?" If he'd somehow managed to miss it while doing God knows what, he'd never let himself forget it.
"No, there's nothing," you reassure. "I just don't know if I wanna do it."
Steve inclines his head. You expertly dodge it with a clearing of your throat. 
“Sam told me the new compound’s been coming up okay.” God, he hadn’t seen Sam since the time he came back from returning the stones to their rightful place and that had been a few months ago.
“Yeah, almost done, actually. Most of the stuff’s been moved already.” 
All the way across the country, far away from New York and its bi-annual alien attacks. Pepper had had enough after the compound got wrecked again, ordering for a complete shift to preserve whatever was left from the destruction.
“Do you think I can score a designated parking spot?”
“You can try."
"Or you can." You grin at him. "Put in a word for me."
Steve clicks his tongue. “Don't think it'd do any good. No special privileges, even for employees.”
“Damn it,” you curse under your breath and he lets out a small chuckle. “You think they’d throw free parking in with the healthcare.”
 "Did you get yourself checked up?" She eyes him, top to bottom.
"Bucky had a look."
"So, that's a no, then," she says flatly. "When was this?"
"Two days ago."
"And you're completely all right?"
"Steve?"
He forcefully zeroes his focus back on you. "I'm sorry, what was that?"
Your head quirks, but you let go of it a second later.
"I asked how you were." You twirl a stirring rod around your hot chocolate, letting its warmth seep into your palms through the cup as you hold it up. “If you were holdin’ up okay.”
“Yeah. Yeah, I’ve been good," he says, lips stretched into a tight smile. “Keeping myself occupied.”
 Steve purposely takes a long sip of his coffee, avoiding the furrow of your eyebrows. It makes his stomach lurch a little, and he raises his cup to his lips again to avoid thinking about it too much.
“You get any time off at all?”
“Sometimes.” Before you can question, he counters, "Do you?”
"I've had vacation days buildin' up for years now. Got nowhere to use 'em." Your eyes dart about the shop before landing on him. "Which is actually what I wanted to talk to you about."
Steve peers back in question, setting the cup down.
“What if I were to ask you-” you begin casually “-if you’d wanna maybe get away for a while.”
He only waits for you to continue.
“I was thinking we could take a road trip.”
A road trip?
Steve voices exactly that.
“We’ll get a car, drive it down to wherever you wanna go. Texas, Washington-” you speak a little faster, leaning forward to take his hand in yours “-hell, even fuckin’ Florida, I don’t care. I’ll plan it out, I’ll take care of everything."
His eyes flit down your hand on his, swallowing thickly. A break. A break. The idea makes his head spin and a laugh bubble out of him incredulously. But as soon as it arrives, it dissipates, leaving in its wake hesitancy and 'I'm sorry, I don't know if I can'.
“Why?” he asks instead, to squander any outright denial.
Why? He wants to smack himself in the head. Because best friends do that. Best friends take road trips together and host dinner parties and tell each other what’s on their minds and don't hide things, life-changing things.
You cage your bottom lip between your teeth, gaze softening. “I miss you.”
Steve feels the familiar sickness in his stomach, the same pit that forms every time he walks past the framed picture of you both in the morning.
“A road trip,” he repeats, testing it out for himself.
“A month, you and me. We're not leaving tomorrow or something, don't worry. Still gotta apply for leave and take care of some stuff, it'll take a while." Your eyes brighten when he doesn't immediately shoot it down. “I’ll even let you pick the music.”
“My taste isn’t that bad," he deflects offhandedly.
You give him a half-smile in response. “What d’ya say, Stevie?”
“A month?” Steve asks again, knowing that he was about to send Mona into an absolute panic.
“Just one," you swear.
A road trip. Across a country he was named after, one that he had never seen, save for in a state of destruction and despair.
"I'll have to check," he says. "Can I let you know?"
It's like you deflate, only by a minuscule amount but he catches it.
"Of course. No pressure, okay? It was just an idea."
"I know," Steve says quickly, flipping his hand so that it covers yours instead. "I promise I'll see what I can do."
You nod, a little uncertain before a smile overtakes your face.
It isn't a no. It isn't a flat-out refusal but he knows. He’s been pulling away and this is another attempt atit.
A cruel part of his mind says that it’s easy, it makes it easier for him and you later on.
"Something to eat?" you query, settling back into your seat. "I could go for some food."
The logical part says it’s because he’s a damn coward.
__________
Day slips into night and night slips into early morning faster than he anticipates.
If he didn't sleep, he didn't have to relive it all over again and the choice, therefore, was glaringly simple.
His phone shudders to let him know there's only 15 percent of battery left. Only then, when his neck cranes to reach around for his charger does he notice the time.
4:13am.
Steve stares at the phone for a while.
The light hadn't even come in yet, but with all the blinds in his house closed, he doubts they would have.
He blinks when he feels the familiar burn in his eyes.
4:15am.
Then he's made slowly aware of the dull ache in his neck he can easily attribute to sitting in the wrong position for too long. 
Did he eat dinner?
4:18am.
Steve stares at the lock screen. An urge suddenly tugs at his brain.
Change it, or change his phone, or remove the cover. Or throw it at a wall.
By the time he locks it again, it reads 4:21am.
He thinks it's good enough to get a shower in.
__________
"A road trip?"
"Yeah." Steve rubs at his eyes with the heel of his palm.
"Thought you left that life behind with your plastic dinner plate."
Steve winces at the thought of his ill-fitting velcro suit. “Shut up.”
"Suppose your metal dinner plate deserves the same honour," Bucky muses, looking down at something off-screen. "Are you getting a tour bus?"
"Just a car, m'afraid," Steve says wearily. "Maybe on the European leg."
"Tell Y/N it broke my whole heart when I didn't receive an invite in the mail for this trip."
Steve sighs. "Might wanna hold onto your tissues. I'm not even sure I'm going." 
"And why the hell not?"
"I don't know." He squints when Bucky ducks out of view, leaving him open to the attack of bright daylight through the phone. "I'm not sure."
"About what?" Bucky yells to be heard from off-screen.
"Got work to do."
Steve chews on his lip, letting his eyes close for a second in the silence.
There's a loud thud, and Steve opens his eyes to Bucky dropping a stack of files on the table in front of him. Brown, some sealed and others with corners softened from overuse.
"You're avoiding it," Bucky says flatly.
Steve's eyebrows furrow, more so in indignation than anything. "I am not."
"Shut the fuck up, Rogers," his best friend of many-- almost too many, he's beginning to think-- years tells him without even thinking twice. "What's your excuse this time, huh? Back pain? Senior's night at the country club?"
"Jesus Christ, Bucky."
"When's the last time you took a vacation?" Bucky's image is clear through the phone with no pixelation whatsoever. Steve can't imagine it's the same from his end, what with the crappy WiFi and sitting in the darkness of his bedroom.  
He blows out a breath. "Well, if you count th-"
"If you say the time you were frozen, I'm gonna hang up."
Steve shuts his mouth.
Bucky pauses to read something and Steve takes the opportunity to kick off the shoes he hadn't bothered removing before laying down.
Bucky peers up at the screen for a second. "D'you know where the-"
"Manila folder. Under the testimonials list," Steve completes.
He doesn't even look surprised, just nods and picks up the correct file before flipping through it.
"Have you gone through them all?"
"Should I?" Bucky asks wearily. "I mean, I lived through them, y'know."
Steve sighs, scratching his cheek, wincing when he comes across the tiny scab. "You need to go through the files, Bucky."
"I'm kidding," Bucky clarifies with a roll of his eyes. "You'd think people would cut me some slack after being imprisoned for sixty years, but no. Can't joke about torture, can't joke about forgetting what I had for breakfast."
Steve stares at him through the phone.
"It was eggs," he says slowly. "I had eggs. And juice. Orange."
The thin sheets rustle under Steve as he sits up straight. "This is why I'm not going on that trip."
Bucky drops the file he was holding with a loud scoff. "Now hold on there, Rogers. Don't you fuckin' act like you've got babysitting duty.."
It should be too early there for Bucky to be this confrontational and it was definitely too late for Steve to argue back. He makes a mental note to call him at midnight next time, but the bastard would probably be up and about then too. He wonders if Bucky ever sleeps.
"I'm not." Steve exhales. "I'm not. I'm just not going to leave you in the middle of your trial prep, Buck."
"In the middle of?" Bucky voices back incredulously. "There isn't even a trial yet and there is nothing more left to prep."
"There's gotta be more-"
"But there isn't," Bucky cuts him off. "Steve, we’ve been at this for years. We've gone through everything. Murdock's done it thrice, Nelson's done it, like, six times, bless his soul. Look at this file, Rogers. I've been through it twice since last night."
Steve's own copy of all the material sat at his desk, highlighted and annotated. The way the case was being dealt with was unusual, but the case itself was unusual. He didn't really know enough about the legal system to argue either.
"The only reason we're waiting is so that I can take some time off before we let the government know I'm here," he reminds. "Otherwise we're done, we just gotta get my ass back to the States and we're ready to go."
Steve bites the inside of his lip, out of Bucky's sight. The angle isn't very flattering. He's long given up on trying to look presentable.
"It's not right."
"Look, Steve." Bucky picks up a file again. "You've done enough. I can handle a month."
"A month and a half, maybe."
"Even better." He gives him a sly smile. "Shuri says if she has to see your dumb face moping around here anymore she's gonna get you banned from entering the country."
Steve rolls his eyes. "I don't mope."
"Sure ya don't. Gettin' sick of it m'self, gotta tell you," Bucky says blankly. "T'Challa's got all these people working on the case. Figuring out a timeline. Once we tell the authorities I'm here, I either gotta surrender myself or get extradited. Either way, I won't be back for another few months at least."
Steve says nothing.
"Go on your little road trip. Stop worrying 'bout me." Bucky shifts in his seat. "Technically I'm on vacation, too."
Steve says nothing.
"Once I'm back, you can help me move into my jail cell, how about that?"
Steve's silence only intensifies.
"You're a ray of sunshine," Bucky says. "Love how you can take a joke."
"Bucky."
"Steve," he mocks, voice low. "I've been on my own since '45. I can handle it."
Even if he doesn't mean it like that, Steve feels an ache shoot through him in embarrassment. Bucky doesn't notice; he probably didn't even realise what he said.
"Plus, it's not the stone ages. I'll call you if I need anything, but I'm tellin' you, there's nothing. You've seen all the evidence. Only thing that's left is prepping for the stand, and they're only doing it after the therapist gives them the go-ahead to start poking in there." His index finger points to his temple.
Bucky's hair had grown long enough to curl lightly at his shoulder blades. He usually kept it tied up and out of his face but it hung loose today, forcing him to push back strands that kept covering his eyes as he read. Even through the phone, Steve could tell he looked better, dark circles faded significantly.
"They'll call you too. Grill your ass 'bout how much you love me."
"I don't."
"Should be easy then," he replies breezily, leafing through a folder. “Did you know I was apparently in Paris at some point? You’d think I'd remember the tower, but no. Turns out I just got stabbed.”
“Buck,” Steve says sternly.
“Sorry, sorry.” He holds up the file. “I got shot too.”
"Bucky."
"Just go." Bucky grins. "You can come back here and look at all these fun numbers.”
Steve shakes his head, pressing the heel of his palm into his eyes. The last two times he'd been to Wakanda, he had nothing to do. He met Bucky's goats. Ate a tomato he grew (it was still a little green but Bucky was damn proud of it. Best tomato Steve’d ever eaten). The rest was the same as the last few visits.
"If you don't wanna go for some other reason-" Bucky sneaks him a glance -"then don't. But don't let it be 'cause of me. Hell, I'd join too if I wasn't across an ocean. And gotten an invite."
He thinks it’s something to consider once Bucky can walk freely.
“You’re not doing a bad thing, Rogers," Bucky adds, tone a little more gentle this time. “You’re not a bad person. Stop beating yourself up about this and just go.”
Wasn’t he? He wasn’t a good person, that’s for sure. 
Who the fuck even is he anymore?
"You sure?" Steve asks warily, the unease still lapping at him. 
"Get me a souvenir," Bucky says. "Bet it'd look great next to my prison bed."
___
"Captain?"
Steve's eyes snap towards the person in front of him. Dark suit, hair brushed back.
"Yes?" he asks again and ignores the feeling that he's done this before.
"I asked if you'd gotten the email for the fundraiser."
Steve's eyes glance towards his left. It's almost like Mona reads his mind because she's already halfway through pulling out a folder from an even bigger folder.
"We did," she confirms. "We'll let you know about his availability. June is a tough month."
Steve looks down at his glass of water, determined to not let it show on his face that he's got no fucking idea what she's talking about.
The water ripples as Steve lifts it, but if someone were to ask, he isn't sure he ever drank it or not.
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Steve stares at the red on his skin, wondering where it came from. It stretches down his skin like a long, raw scar before diluting at his jaw.
God, didn't that happen yesterday? Did he cut himself again? Or--wait, was it the day before yesterday? 
Where was the fucking shaving cream– why was he shaving without shaving cream?
His phone chimes with a text alert from Mona. He sees from the home screen that it's a schedule for today. It started the same as always, with her cheerful 'Good morning. Here's the plan for the day'. And usually, it could be boiled down to meeting people he couldn't stand, people he was still treading the fence about, and lunch.
When he looks up at the mirror, the red has begun to dry, forming little crusts that cracked when he opened his mouth.
Steve blinks and it's gone, and there's a wet towel on the sink.
Dinner is something. Chicken. Rice. Something healthy, there's some greens in there. He watches some sitcoms and laughs when the laugh track plays even when the joke isn't all that funny.
He eats his chicken and wonders whether 2am is too early to take a shower.
"You got any food in you or is that all you’ve been taking in all day?” He makes a mention to the cigarette that was almost halfway done.
“Jeanie managed to get us some soup. Should last us a few days if we divide it up real nice.”
“We got some extra bread.”
“Nah, Rogers.” The teen flicks the tail end of the smoke, getting rid of the extra ash. “We’ll be all right. Save that for another day.”
Steve jolts up when the familiar feeling of falling hits him. But the couch is still underneath him and the TV's moved on to another late-night rerun. The laugh track is mundane but feels like it's directed at him.
The plate clangs on the ground-- he's glad he's invested in metal ones after the first few times it happened.
He rubs his eyes, hand reaching out for his phone.
3:30am.
Steve pulls on a jacket and some well worn sneakers. It can't be too early for a run.
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“Captain?”
Steve snaps back. “Yes?”
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Dinner is lunch? Pasta? 
No, he ate rice for lunch. 
2:00am.
Why the fuck is he eating dinner at 2am?
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“Rogers?”
“Please, it’s Steve,” he repeats, shaking hands with a polite smile.
“Steve. Thank you for the advertisement you did for us. Sales really rocketed.”
“Don’t mention it.”
Steve feels the scab on his skin. Scraped again?
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5:20am.
Steve laughs with the laugh track.
Was this who he was? Laughing at some joke he wouldn’t be able to remember even with a gun to his head?
He shovels another soon of cereal into his mouth and discards the rest in the sink.
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“Captain?”
“He’s not available, sorry,” Mona cuts in curtly as she walks swiftly beside him. “You can schedule a meeting with me, though.”
Steve looks at her when they round a corner. “Who was that?”
“Um–” Mona scrolls through her tablet. “Senator–”
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“5am is not too early for a run,” he repeats to himself in assurance under his breath, tugging his shoes on. 
He stops to look in the mirror and it is empty. There should be dark circles and stubble and pale skin from not seeing the light of day. His skin glows. There is hardly a line on his face.
“Shave when you get back,” he says aloud, and his voice is hoarse from hours of unuse. 
He swaps out the elevator for the stairs, bounding down quietly. 5am was still early for his neighbours. 
He pushes open the door to his apartment and--
It is pitch black.
Steve takes a step outside, head turned up to the sky. 
It is dark, cloudy and deafeningly silent.
Steve’s eyebrows pull together.
He digs his phone out of his pocket to check the time.
2am.
He thought it was 5.
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“Captain–”
“My opinion isn’t going to change, Senator.”
“What?” 
Steve’s attention drags him back to harsh fluorescent lighting and the smell of astringent hand sanitiser.
“I said you’re free to go.” The doctor flips the pages on his clipboard. “Good as new.”
“Serum, am I right?” he tries for a joke. It’s not even funny. He feels like a sitcom.
“Miracle of science.” The doctor graces him with a smile that seems almost pitiful. “Just try to get some sunlight. Your vitamin D’s a little low, but you’re cleared.”
“Great,” he says. Cleared for what, exactly?
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“Mona.” Steve rubs his temples.
“Coffee?”
“Please.”
___
Steve watches his food spin around in the microwave. 
It goes on endlessly, for ages and ages. He's mesmerised.
It finally beeps and he yanks it out.
He takes a bite. The center is still cold.
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“Captain–”
“Senator.”
“It’s Councilwoman,” Mona whispers from beside him.
“Councilwoman,” Steve corrects. “My apologies. Woke up on the wrong side of the bed.”
“We’ve all been there.” She smiles kindly at him. He thinks she’s one of the only people he likes. “Now about your tweets, we’d really appreciate if you didn’t go against the organization that’s been, you know–”
He thinks he doesn’t like her.
Steve’s attention returns to his phone as she rattles on about why he should lend his public support to some fucking businessman who had stakes in some place for some reason. If he tweeted against him, it was probably for good reason.
You’ve sent him a meme.
The corners of his mouth curl up slightly.
“So we believe it’s in everybody’s best interest that you–”
“No,” Steve says resolutely, gaze rising up again. “My condolences, but I don’t think I’ll be doing that. Now can we continue to more important issues?”
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Steve tries a drama for once, instead of a comedy.
Three episodes in and he has no idea what the hell has happened so far.
He checks his phone. 
12:43am.
Too early for a run. 
He gets ready for a shower.
___
Steve walks out, towel around his waist and hoodie covering his chest. His hair is slicked back, still dripping water down his back. 
His phone chimes with another notification.
1:40am
Steve waits for it to download, one hand on his waist.
From Y/N
(image attached)
From Y/N
Why on earth are you awake this late?
From Steve:
Could ask you the same thing. Don’t you have work tomorrow?
From Y/N:
Don’t you have an interview with CNN tomorrow?
From Steve:
Steve’s eyebrows furrow as he looks up, racking his brain to remember if he did have something lined up.
How do you know my schedule better than me?
From Y/N:
They tweeted about it, Steve
He smiles, barely listening to his dinner spin around in the microwave.
From Y/N:
Why are you up?
From Steve:
Got in late.
From Y/N:
Go to sleep
From Steve:
You first.
From Y/N:
What are you, my dad?
From Y/N:
Kidding, I’m going. Have fun in your lil interview. Give me a shoutout
From Steve:
Keep your ears peeled.
From Steve:
Goodnight.
From Y/N:
Better not see you awake after this, Rogers
Steve pulls his eyes away from his phone when the microwave beeps dramatically.
From Y/N:
Goodnight. Talk to you tomorrow ily
He pulls his food out carefully. It’s the worst looking slice of pizza he’d ever seen, but he drops it onto a plate anyway and walks toward his couch.
2:00am.
He’s seen these reruns before. Twice, actually.
Steve takes a bite. It’s stone cold.
The laugh track plays again. His lip twitches. 
Steve takes another bite and swallows it down without thinking too much. 
He switches the channel. Someone advertises something he doesn’t want. 
He switches the channel. His face. The channel changes faster.
Steve takes a bite. Winces and chews slowly, purposefully. The channel switches.
Laugh track. Steve bites the crust. His face.
3am? 
The plate’s discarded. He’s got a box of cereal. The channel switches.
Steve takes a spoonful. Advertisement. 
Interview today. Fuck. 
He takes a bite. Parade promo. 
___
“Captain?”
“Yes?”
___
Channel switches. CNN? Who the fuck was he talking to?
Steve chews on muesli. 
Laugh track.  
He swallows. Advertisement. Laugh track. He laughs.
Muesli. Interview at 9. 
____
Steve drags the razor over his chin. 
He swishes it around in the water, and there is red that mixes with dissolving foam.
____
He checks his phone. Muesli. Steve laughs.
It’s been half an hour. It’s still 3am.
Steve chews. Advertisement. 
He laughs. Muesli. He laughs. Swallows. 
Laugh track. Spoonful.
____
“Captain?”
“Yes?”
___
Dry pizza.
Steve laughs.
Steve pulls on his shoes and checks the time.
___
Something suddenly flips in him. He doesn't have a name for it.
Laugh track.
___
Fuck.
___
Steve exhales, tucking his phone into his pocket before he could send a retraction.
To Y/N:
Let's do it. Road trip. I'm in.
It was done now. 
He couldn't go back.
___
It hardly takes a few seconds for the notification to ring out in an empty apartment.
____
From Y/N:
Fuck yes. You won’t regret this.
As much as he wishes this trip is for you and for the two of you only, he knows it is simply one small part of it. 
Steve stares down at the phone, knowing he will.
Mostly, it drags him out of he darkness and into a spotlight. There was no turning back now, he couldn’t hide it behind absence. 
There is still time, though. To somehow conjure up a way to tell you about the dreams and the docks and the sun on his face. Of dog tags and disinfectant on his torn skin and toffee from corner stores.
It gives him time to tell you he’s thinking of going back to the past.
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comicaurora · 1 year
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Heyo, it's the fool who wants to make a comic with zero experience in drawing or finishing stories again. A lot of people, including you, I think, mentioned that "Your first work will be bad". Any tips how…not to do that? I don't expect it to be a magnum opus or smth, but I at least want to make something people would genuinely unironically enjoy, and "first story is always not good" notion everywhere is very discouraging
It's not like I never tried anything creative ever, but this is my first attempt of putting it down on paper with intention of completing it, instead of having vague ideas of "I know what would be so cool when I make it a thing" in my head for months without acting upon any of these ideas
It's definitely a disheartening adage, even if it's supposed to take the pressure off young creators.
Unfortunately, no matter how good your starting point gets - and you can get it very good, don't get me wrong - you are still going to find it unbearably bad when you look back on it with experienced eyes. You might eventually circle back around to finding it impressive, considering it was your absolute first starting point and you had no experience, but you still won't be able to see its merit the way your audience will.
The thing is, your first project is going to teach you a lot of things you couldn't have known you needed to learn beforehand. This means everything you make after learning those things is going to be smoother in process and better in result. There's also just the fact that the more you do this sort of thing the more practiced you'll get at the mechanical side of it, making it faster and easier for you and leaving you with more energy to punch things up. Compare the Big Fight Scene from chapter 3 with the one from chapter 17 in terms of visual complexity:
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Particle effects, ambient glow, soft lighting, atmospheric depth, metallic effects, light and shadow. The seeds of these ideas are present in the earlier shot, but executed in a much clumsier way. Fourteen chapters of gradually increasing complexity and just raw practice got me to the point where drawing that second panel was fun rather than exhausting. If I'd tried that in the first chapter I would've probably been so worn out just trying to finish the lineart that the quality of the rest of the image would've suffered from sheer exhaustion.
And even before that, those first chapters only flowed as well as they did because I'd been drawing hundreds and hundreds of video frames for years at this point, which had gotten my lineart muscle memory polished enough that I wasn't agonizing over every single stroke.
I was absolutely determined to start this comic off at the best level of quality I could, and that determination kept me kicking the can down the road for a decade. I think this was a good thing; if I'd started it any earlier I think I would've been a slow enough learner that the quality increase over those first few chapters wouldn't have been as steep as it was. And that first chapter was as good as I could've made it at the time; I didn't take any shortcuts or laze around, and I used every skill I'd learned over the previous decade of physical and digital art. Of course, if I knew then what I knew now there's loads of stuff I'd have changed about the way I handled the intro. In fact, I'm going to break my One Rule about "never going back or redoing things" and I'm going to walk you all through chapter 1 and what I would change/fix if I was drawing it now.
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Remove the outline on the background mountains, add color variance to the further mountains so they appear farther in the background, un-muddy the color of the sky and make those clouds a little more impressive; this could've looked like a full glorious noonday sun. The forest was drawn with an experimental brush I'd created for foliage that I ended up deciding didn't produce the effect I wanted; I'd probably go through and use the technique I developed for Gleicann's forest to cel shade blocks of foliage.
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Add at least the bare hint of buildings behind the sword pedestal - just gradient outlines would be fine, similar to the extended backgrounds in Zuurith. Also slap some blue cinder-y particle effects coming up off the sword. Clean up the shading layer so there aren't as many holes. Add metallic shine to the blade and marbling/stone texture to the pedestal.
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Un-muddy the colors on this background; they match The Collector's color palette but that matters less than looking nice. The background needs something - speed lines, the implication of foliage - etc. The poses could also be more dynamic and drawn with more confidence. To show the power behind the blows, re-choreographs the fight to show more of the damage it does to the environment - the sword carving through rocks, ploughing furrows into the ground, starting to spark with starfire, etc.
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Same problem with the foliage; the special brush adds too much detail, drawing the eye away from the important parts of the scene, and the colors are muddy to cover that up. Brighter greens and cel-shaded layers would produce the effect I actually wanted and be faster than hand-drawing every treetrunk and then shading them so they're indistinguishable anyway. Also, more intense shading on the foreground figure - a neutral tan shadow layer is functional, but it could look a lot more dramatic, and he's shaded much more lightly than the extremely muddied background is.
Of course, "if I knew then what I know now" is a meaningless turn of phrase. I needed to draw these pages this way in order to learn what I know now. If I had jumped straight into the shortcuts I've painstakingly developed without having had that intervening practice, the end result would've been just as bad - if not worse, because it would've been executed shakily, without the confidence that accompanies muscle memory. The techniques I used in this first chapter had served me well up til that point. The techniques I use now were built on these foundations. Lamenting that I could've done it better if I'd started now is like saying the pyramids would be so much taller if they'd laid the foundations at the top part instead.
There's a degree to which this work is sisyphusian. You do your best, you push yourself, and then your "best" gets better. At some point you have to accept that what was your best is still okay, even if you can't see it that way.
When I was working on this comic in the pre-actually-drawing-it years, I came to a realization that helped me get unstuck: "good enough" is a mask that "perfect" wears. Striving for perfection is a pointless task, and this is pretty well known, but it seems a lot more reasonable to just try to get "good enough" at art to guarantee that your work will be good enough. But if you unpack that concept, you likely find that your definition of "good enough" is basically "without flaws." Which is "perfect." Which is, as mentioned, unattainable. Those pages are as good as I could've possibly made them at the time, and they aren't perfect, and I never thought they were perfect, because I knew if I waited for them to be perfect in my eyes I'd never make them. I just had to grit my teeth, make them public and hope that people got something out of them that I couldn't.
There is a baseline level of artistic skill and preparation that I do recommend cultivating - figure and life drawing, anatomy studies, landscapes, reading Scott McCloud's "Understanding Comics" cover to cover - but there is no hardline starting point at which you are guaranteed to be good enough to make the story and art good. This is because "good" is subjective, and as long as you are improving as an artist, your own perspective on your old work will never be that it is "good." You have to trust that the audience that likes your story likes it for their own valid reasons.
The thing is, I know this is a bummer. This whole thing is a bummer perspective. Artists want to make good art and the nature of artistic creation is being unable to see your own art as good for long. If you believe that your art must be a certain baseline level of Good to be worthy of existing, this truth seems to be a condemnation to an eternal and pointless purgatorial struggle.
The most valuable skill an artist can develop at this stage is strangling that insecurity with their bare hands.
Trust your audience! Trust that they enjoy what they enjoy, and trust that they see something in your art, even if all you can see are the critiques you'd use to polish it! "Perfect" and "good enough" will tell you that your creation will always be hideously unlovable and must be hidden from scrutiny until it's "ready", but like all insecurities, underpinning this is the axiom that anyone who likes you or your work is lying. Strangle this falsehood, trust freely and openly that your audience is being honest with you, and while you work to improve on the creation side of things, trust that in the eyes of the people who like your work, it is Good Enough.
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mikeellee · 3 months
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Hi 👋
What are your opinions about mitsuki bakugo and what makes you think that she is a better mother than inko. I agree with you when it comes to this and I think shiggy had the best mum but I do just want you to go into deeper detail about it
Hi @bibibbon
First things first, I'm on my job right now (waiting instructions. I'm on my grace period) but I do have an answer for you.
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I want to be clear I don't like the whole trope "slap on his head" even if is 100% harmless and comical. That being said, Mitsuki didn't slap on her son here bc she is EVIL and ABUSIVE. Bk was acting like an ass and she discipline him.
Yes, in real life such action would make people frown but like mha is not real. Plus, Asian moms can be like that. Hell, hispanic mom too.
"Behave or I'll use my sandals/chinelo on you"
I'm latina. I've seen rude kids being threaten by this to behave...hate or love, this alone is not indication of abuse. Its a way to make the kids not act rudely...in my time, there was spooky stories too. "If you do this, the monster will get you" you know? It's a tool. Not expert on motherhood but a mom disciplining her son is not always equal to ABUSE.
Also look at the image I shared...people are hanging up on hating Mitsuki for this panel but like ...her son is threating to beat her up. Look, BK has show to be rude with his mom (if he was being abuse...he wouldn't have provoked her)
*He calls her hag. What mom likes to be called that?
* I remember a short where Bk asks his father why he married his mom and then at the end he said "so you couldn't get rid of her" haha hilarious isnt it?😒 I think this one is in smash. I think.
Also...let's imagine this: IF she was abusing her son...what this adds to the story? Many fics use this trope to justify BK. "His mom was abusive" ok...and what about Izu? Is he not allowed to be angry? Is "Mitsuki is abusive" free jail card?
Also the fics NEVER gave us a reason as why this woman would abuse her son. "Abuse doesnt need to have a reason" I agree in parts, its just if you are to do a story like that usually has a trigger "she lost her job/lost her hubby/was abused as well"
Mitsuki has none of this.
"Why you think she is better than Inko?" Well, she does parenting! As much people may not like "the slap on his head" it's something. Inko does nothing!!!!
On the war arc 2 the eletrical bangaloo...Mitsuki is seen worried for her son "oh no. Its raining you know our son's quirk dont fare well under the rain"
Does Inko knows anything about her son's quirk? Nah. She just weeps and does nothing.
Like Inko is such shitty mom that she lives in an extreme scale. Either fics shows her as LE BEST MOM EVER (read a fic where Inko was OP and her son is still abused and still asks for her to not hurt "kaachan"😒) or the worst mom ever. (One where she was happy her son got a quirk so now she can gave a life. She is going out and is barely at home, in essence abandoning her son, bk calls her auntie and still abuses Izu)
Nao is the best mom. No questions here. I dont like how all the Shimuras arent important.
Also she and Mitsuki are good moms.
The mc ...is saddle with his abuser and a pretty neglectful mom.
Not of the implication "Inko was thin but thanks to Izu being quirkless she got fat"
I dont think Inko has maturity to be a mom...but I see her as a lonely person who wanted to have a family.
She is a pathetic and sad character.
But hey this is a fandom where people say "Shig is so deep" and sigh...what can we do?
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questforgalas · 1 year
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My thoughts on TBB Season 2 finale
It's a long one so strap in if you enter
First, before I get started, I wanted to say that this has been such a fun season to watch, and the interactions I've had with everyone in this fandom has made my Wednesday and weeks since January so delightful. I know hiatuses see a lull in activity, and some people are going to need to step away for a bit, but I just wanted to say thanks for being such a warm and open environment (at least the little corner I've found myself in). Here's to fingers crossed that the panel at Star Wars celebration in just a couple weeks brings us confirming great news!
Love ya all. Mama Tay is here with blankets and ice cream for the Tech babes if you need it. My man is unconscious on a torture table and my babygirl is a captive so we can all cry into the containers together
I'm able to watch the episodes at 8am EST every week, it's my little weekly routine I look forward to, so I've had a couple hours to process my one watch through of the finale episodes, and, just, wow.
Warning, "The Breaking of the Fellowship" just started playing on my playlist so who knows where this is about to go lol. Let's go to feelings town
The Bad Batch Season 2
I have not been quiet about how much I love season 2. Out of 16 episodes, there are maybe 2 that could be written off, but put them anywhere in season 1 or any TCW season, and they'd be some of the best episodes, which only adds to how well written and well done this season was.
I'm a Crosshair girl, not just in a "heart eyes spindly toothpick" sort of way, in fact that really didn't develop until halfway through season 1 - which my therapist definitely doesn't need to analyze - but his personality and his subtle devotion to his squad sucked me in from the beginning. So even with how little we had of him this season (granted, what we did get was some of the best television I've ever watched), this season is up there for me.
The character development for all batchers but especially Omega, Tech, Echo, and Crosshair was intriguing and dynamic, and that's not to say Hunter and Wrecker didn't have their moments either. They did, they were just much more subtle. We saw a lot more of Hunter's enhanced senses at play and Wrecker's knowledge, not just fascination, of explosives, but that pales in comparison to the other four.
The universe expansion was everything to me. We don't have anything depicting the rise of the Empire. We've never seen it's take over and the effects that rippled across the galaxy. We've only ever seen the afterwards, so to get this eery and terrifying depiction is exactly how I'd expect the galaxy to feel during that time, and I really applaud the creators on being so detailed with it.
The Finale Episodes
Wow. Just, wow. Admittedly, I had two reactions to these episodes.
The first was as the Crosshair fan who's put a lot of my emotional stability on this group of animated misfits, and that reaction hated these episodes. Not because I didn't think they were done well (getting into that in a second) but because I latched onto the Bad Batch's dynamics as a family since TCW and I so deeply in my soul to the point it's almost a wound in my heart want them back together again. I fell in love with the TCW Bad Batch, and I want that dynamic back so I've been rooting for it since "Aftermath", and every time we were given crumbs of a possibility that could happen this season, I devoured them and clutched onto them like they were my lifeline. So yes, from that perspective I hated these episodes.
Now, from the Star Wars fan taking a step back from my fanon - holy freaking shit. I laughed. I cried. I sobbed. I oooo'd. I cheered. When they stopped "The Summit" in the middle of the action, similar to how they broke up "Spoils of War" and "Ruins of War", it hit me that we weren't getting the reunion I desperately hoped for, and I took a minute to grieve that, went into acceptance, and then dove into "Plan 99".
Again, were there points throughout both, especially "Plan 99", that I was going "oh I hope this happens" or "ok annnnnd now!"? Yeah, absolutely (cut to Omega waking up at Cid's and me going "nice this is when they reveal it was all a bad dream and Tech's gonna walk in in 3..2..1..."). Did I have 4 other endings in my head halfway through the episode? 1000%. But it's not my creation, and based off of what we were given all of season 2, it all made sense to me. Even the things that made me have to pause for 4 minutes while I sobbed into my hands.
We are set up for an extremely action packed, spy/political thriller filled, intriguing season 3, and that wouldn't have happened if the season didn't end the way it did. If it was all tied up neatly in a bow, then there would be a lot more doubt, in my mind, about 1. if we'd even get a season 3 and 2. what the heck it was going to be about.
I'm not going to get into individual character analyses, but I thought everyone was in character. There was not a moment in either episode I thought "huh that doesn't really fit does it?" All of them were on brand in my opinion, and I again encourage people to take a step back and separate fanon from canon.
So why the emotional impact?
One of the things I've really had to process and think through is why this finale was staying with me like it is. I mean, I've been a Star Wars fan since 1999. I lived through watching Revenge of the Sith in theaters. I, like many of us, watched "Victory and Death" at the beginning of a very dark time in the world. I gripped the edge of my theatre seat watching Rogue One, praying they made it out like I hadn't known the end of their story for 25 years. But none of those endings stayed with me the way TBB finale is.
Sometimes something stays with me for an hour, maybe more, but I've never had any show have a finale where throughout the day as I thought about it, I burst into tears in varying degrees, and I can feel that being the case for awhile. Honestly, I haven't put my finger fully on it yet, but I think one of the reasons why is because all of those other endings I mentioned above - ROTS, Rogue One, TCW - and really any Star Wars media so far, has not had such a sorrow filled ending in such a dark period of time without us knowing the story after already.
ROTS we knew the outcome of that 20 years before. Rogue One even longer. TCW was filling in the gaps of a story long concluded. The Mandalorian is set in a time when it's supposed to be peaceful and the galaxy is mostly living in the light, so even when Mando and Grogu are separated, it's sad to witness the pair be apart, but there's no umbrella threat that makes the separation dangerous.
We are in the darkest period of time that we as Star Wars fans know in TBB. That is the point of the series - it's not just about these clones and how they cope post war. It's we the fans seeing how terrifying the Empire is beyond just the two sith lords running it. The inner workings and how easily they squash hope within their own government. We as the fans are meant to watch the Batch and love the family but be terrified of what can be waiting for them around every corner.
And that's not to mention we have no idea what the fate of the clones is. First off, the events of A New Hope are 20 years away. Rebels and the Obi-Wan Kenobi show are the only medias we have depicting the time between ROTS and ANH, and they barely scratch the surface. Rex is canonically confirmed to survive to Return of the Jedi, and we have Gregor and Wolffe in Rebels, but where the heck are the rest of them. We don't know. We literally don't know, and we're now left to speculate what that could possibly entail for the clones (especially the Batch) on any given day, let alone when we're left with two of them as captives of the Empire and one "dead". It is, in my opinion, one of the most devastating endings to a Star Wars media because of the terror it can hold.
Tech's Fall
Why yes, this would be the part I had to pause the show for and sob over for 4 minutes.
Tech has been my second favorite member of the Batch since they were introduced in TCW. This unapologetic, enthusiastic nerd who knows what he likes and hyperfixates on it spoke to me on levels, as I know he did for many of you - especially after "The Crossing" (I personally cannot relate to the ND connection, but was really happy to see the community joyous over the moment).
I, like many of you have already said in your thought posts, had the growing pit in my stomach each time they developed his character. The constant-optimist in me latched onto the possibility that just once they wouldn't pull that shit on us, but obviously that wasn't the case.
Tech and Crosshair's sacrifices punch me in the gut. Both of them are to save their family and give their family a chance. To have Wrecker and Tech bicker back and forth even up to the last minute like brothers do, and then the fucking awful shot of Wrecker watching his brother fall knowing he did it so they could have a chance. As a sibling, I couldn't handle it (I've actually started crying again now writing this). If I was Tech and that was my family, I'd do the same thing. If I was Wrecker watching that in front of me, I'd be on my knees screaming.
The scene was shot chaotically to make us, the viewer, feel panic and feel the gravity of the situation the Batch was in while seeing tiny moments when maybe they could pull it off, maybe Tech is moving faster than we think, maybe the car will come online and speed away, all to keep us hanging on while feeling the pressure of the environment they were in to then watch the fall and feel anything but relief, just like the Batch.
Now, onto what's keeping me hanging on
Is Tech Dead?
No, and I'm blaming Echo for this, but I do not think he's dead. And I do not think that takes away from his sacrifice either.
First of all, this is Star Wars. Unless you see the body, they ain't dead. @jealous-sloth77 even made the point of Darth Maul in their thought post. My dude was cut in half and fell down a supposed never ending shaft, but came back with the v-neck of all v-necks and a 200 step revenge plan, then literally became the cockroach of Star Wars.
Let alone the direct parallels to Echo Tech's fate could have.
So stay with me on this for a second, and I may be giving Filoni and Corbett and Rau a little more credit than they deserve, but follow me here.
Echo's blown up at the citadel in Season 3 of TCW. Not season 6 and then reappears a season later. 4 seasons of separation, and given the cancellations and renewal breaks, you're talking literally 10 years in between his death and his revival, which narratively makes no sense to me. And don't get me wrong, I know the Dominos were a fan favorite and Fives and Echo were a fun pairing, but all in all, Echo appeared in five episodes? Maybe six before he's killed off? And only 3 of those was he a "main" character. Compared to many other clones and characters, that's not exactly a recipe for "bring the fan favorite back 10 years later". So that makes me think that Echo coming back, especially the way he did, was setting the ground work for something. Now hang with me here.
In Mando S2E1, Mando kills the Krayt dragon by going inside of it, a monster who's stomach is literally full of acid, and blows it up from the inside out, dramatically coming out pointedly covered in the krayt acid showing that it has no affect on beskar. Then 2 minutes later we get the cameo of Boba Fett in the sunset, a character who last we saw was swallowed by a monster, supposedly digesting in stomach acid. Then in Book of Boba Fett, we see that because of his beskar armor, he survived the sarlacc, etc, etc. My point is, Star Wars has recently developed a habit of setting long-con explanations in various medias. Planting the seed you could say. So it's not far fetched to theorize that they brought Echo back from a ship explosion that we were made to think nothing but his helmet survived so they could set the ground work for other characters to be dramatically saved/scavenged and "brought back to life".
I mean, this is the world of Palpatine clones so, it's not out there.
That's not to mention the scene of Hemlock bringing Tech's goggles to Ord Mantell and making a point of mocking his death in front of them. Hemlock's entire purpose is to unlock the cloning techniques of the Kaminoans, and suddenly the literal genius is separated from them, assumed dead. If I'm an evil-scientist like Hemlock, I'm figuring out anyway to make sure Tech's alive.
So yes that's a long-stretch plan that gives Corbett, Filoni, and Rau a lot of credit for potentially thinking multiple seasons of plot lines through at the beginning, which, honestly, would be a good strategy considering the time period they're navigating around so I don't think it's that crazy to consider.
However, the main fact that I'm latching onto that Tech's not dead is the same fact that I've latched onto ever since "Aftermath" to tell myself Crosshair will be back with the Batch someday, and that's because it narratively makes no sense in context to how the Batch were introduced to us to keep them separated.
Think back to TCW S7, when the Batch are introduced. That was 4 episodes highlighting a tight knit, unique, family unit who all complimented each other to round out an unbeatable unit. Their sibling dynamic was the main focus of that group and is what made me fall in love with them, and it made no sense to me that they separated that dynamic within the first 10 minutes of the first episode and now to further separate it by taking Tech away.
I feel this so strongly in regards to Crosshair and Tech. I was sad when Echo left, and I was confident he was going to be with them again, but his departure didn't hit me the same way as Crosshair's and now Tech's. It just does not make sense to me to have the OG 4 separated permanently given how they were presented to us. It would be one thing if they went all in on the "Crosshair's evil" route and semi bait-and-switched us, but given his evident loyalty to the Batch and clear, long path of him being back with them someday, it really would not make sense to me for them to "swap one out for the other". That, in my opinion, would be lazy writing, and with how much love and care the creators have shown this series, I cannot fathom them throwing in the towel like that.
Unfortunately until the new season, I'll sadly have to accept the fact that he is gone and in our eyes right now, he's dead. And that hurts. It really does, but boy, am I grasping onto this last analysis like it's my tether over Mustafar
Love ya all. Mama Tay is here with blankets and ice cream for the Tech babes if you need it. My man is unconscious on a torture table and my babygirl is a captive so we can all cry into the containers together
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greypetrel · 10 months
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For the opinions meme - how about Varric, Krem, Zevran and Sten?
WOOOOH it's a lot! Thank you ask some more. 👀
SOOOO let's spill some tea, shall we. *crack knuckles*
Varric:
First impression: "Omg that's some chest hair." Of course. Nah it was like at first sight even without those, give me an unreliable sarcastic narrator and I'll be content.
Impression now: After reading some analyses and writing him... I still like him a lot as a character, but it's true that he's for sticking with the status quo and is terrified of changes, BUT he changes his mind if you push him enough (a lot), so that's ok. Leave Bianca dude seriously I'm suffering for your sake.
Favorite moment: The fake solo EPIC fight at Bartrand's. Iconic, you go man. Also, the descriptions on ships in Hard in Hightown without a hint of research. He just doesn't care and it works and it's a best seller. You go, Varric.
Idea for a story: I don't think anything about him will ever top the fic "Ask Varric" but I'd love to be proven wrong of course. (It's the fic I read when I'm sad it just sparks joy). I'd just love to see him coping with a Spirit Cole and learning that it's not the end of the world, he's still him. Alas I tend to focus more on my OCs. Maybe I'll try it one day or another, but it's not that day (and if you are reading this and find it a good prompt, be my guest, write it and please tag me)
Unpopular opinion: A centrist character that doesn't want change is actually a good counterpoint for Hawke.
Favorite relationship: *looks at DadWolf AU* AH-EHM. No, joking, I love a good fic that ships him with Cassandra.
Favorite headcanon: Bisexual in the closet, clearly had a one-night with Solas when they both got drunk I read the comic panels and listen LISTEN no homo bro
Krem:
First impression: I think I thought he looked very cool and had a very nice voice, I liked how professional he was and the dynamics of the Chargers from the start, the more he spoke the more I liked him.
Impression now: As above, I can't say much on how it was written but I like him very much as a character, I wish we saw more of him in game and that he was a romanceable option but alas
Favorite moment: I live for his dynamic with Bull they're just... The ultimate found family and they melt my little dark heart.
Idea for a story: Oh damn... Anything exploring his character more, honestly. I will be honest and say I'm not really shipping him with Maryden (I don't like Maryden much...?). Maybe something having him and Dorian in the same room. Add Fenris for the perfect Tevinter reunion and just dig in the chaos. Hateful Eight style. (Sorry Dor I don't think you're surviving this in one piece)
Unpopular opinion: Is there an unpopular opinion about Krem? No, I think my opinion on him are pretty average.
Favorite relationship: Chargers the ultimate Found Family all the way. With Bull, as in platonic. Or you know what. He makes plushies. Josie plays with them. KremxJosephine??? (it's farfetched and I really thought of it right now and with a beer in my belly. But...)
Zevran:
First impression: "Dude who gave you the assassin licence, Elmo?" No listen Zevran is the epitome of the character I like most. Cocky, histrionic, there for show, very charismatic. I was there and I liked him from the start.
Impression now: Same as above, it didn't change much. I only love him more after knowing all of it, he deserves all the love and praise he can get and some more.
Favorite moment: His recruitment is honestly an iconic epic fail come on what's there not to love. But also his banter with Alistair.
Idea for a story: I will write it sooner or later: Zevran and the Warden making spritz in the camp with what they could find/distill themselves. Listen, Antiva is Venezia, hence it's a SHAME that one of his gifts is not a glass of Spritz (the most typical cocktail from the... City or region I won't say or Ali will beat me with a newspaper if I get it wrong). In my mind the Dalish can and will distill alcohol with everything, as good old south mediterranean old people, the Arlathvens are basically a big reunion to share drinks. I will sooner or later write Alyra missing some good homemade liquor, him missing spritz, and the pair combining forces to recreate something with the resources they have. Raiding a tavern, Alyra distracts the host and Zevran slips behind the counter and steals Aperol.
Unpopular opinion: Not really an unpopular opinion but he's Italian not Spanish. The name also sounds from Veneto, if you read it with the accent on the a. Zevràn. It's me being picky, tho, I really don't have ANYTHING against people portraying him as Spanish and using Spanish for Antivan! I saw some very nice iterations. I don't think I have opinions about him that are really unpopular tho.
Favorite relationship: I'm a sucker for a good Zevalistair fic. I said it.
Favorite headcanon: Even in a platonic relationship, he still checks in regularly with his friends from the Blight. They all have a discount.
Sten:
First impression: I was pretty cold about him? Like ok, I'll free him just to piss the Nun off, but meh it sounds like a character I don't really like, too much a boring Paladin for me, meh.
Impression now: He likes cookies and he approves when you disagree with him? OMG I STAN *badum tsssss* Jokes beside, I think he's kind of… A missed chance? He's an interesting character and believe me I generally find his kind of character extremely boring, but… He doesn't have as much insight as the others have, it would have been nice to see more, have some more cut scenes with him or a more complex personal quest that wasn't just a "find the missing object".
Favorite moment: The cookie admission.
Idea for a story: Him and the Warden meeting again, with him as the Arishok. A good old reunion.
Unpopular opinion: I think the real missed chance in romancing a Qunari is not him but the Arishok in DA2 and I will die on this hill.
Favorite relationship: He and the Warden. Or with Morrigan.
Favorite headcanon: He didn't use "Kadan" for nothing, he sincerely had feels for the Warden.
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Heyy, I’ve been reading your wonderful one piece works for a while — and I couldn’t stop wondering how are you actually doing those magnificent headers?
Like… hello? The great quality, with additional 3D-alike details I could catch by my eyes? I got only Ibis Paint X on mobile, since I’m only a young man that literally two months ago went on a life-time ‘adventure’ of living alone in a small apartment.
In short — I got no money to pay for additional graphics/drawing programs, not yet at least
Hello!
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy my writing - I'm curious to know what's your favorite piece / part? Also I'm so happy you like my headers? Makes it feel worth it to spend time on them! :D
I have excellent news for you, I used a mix of Canva and Photopea. They're both FREE!
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I'll be explaining the process for making these two kinda? The full tutorial is below the cut, to be courteous to the other folks, hope you don't mind?
Though I am hearing that Canva has given people some grief. But Photopea is just *chefs kiss*
If you've ever used photoshop, Photopea is essentially a free photoshop, and it even has the automation tools! An absolute lifesaver when you have multiple layers you want to export (but that's for larger projects not this)
I'm going to assume you have basic knowledge of layers in digital drawing programs for this. If anything isn't clear: ask me, I'll clarify!
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My General Process is:
Search for official art / images
bring it into canva / photopea
crop / arrange images to match the dimensions
select a thematic color that is associated with the character
separate the foreground from the background
mess around and test things until they work
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Given "Louder than Words" is the latest one I've made, I'll start with the process for it.
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Dimensions: 3000 x 1055 px dpi: 96
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Let's Get Crackin'
Alright let's grab some official art so we're not using any fanart without the artist's permission
I try to pick images that feel relevant enough to what I'm trying to make. For example: the image for the Matching banner shows the ASCE tattoo which is super important in that fic
2. Let's arrange them onto a banner where each individual image has the same/similar dimensions to the rest
That's probably part of why you like these. To a certain extent they have similar dimensions, so they have a uniformity that's pleasing to the eye! (It's not perfect because I threw perfectionism to the wind because this is tumblr not my portfolio) Tip: if you have 3 images and only 2 that have similar dimensions, and the 3rd one can't be cropped logically: but the one that's a different aspect ratio in the middle!
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3. lets arrange them in such a way that the borders all feel like they're the same/equal width/thickness
you might find that you have to shrink some images for this, that's fine.
ALTERNATIVELY: if you're going with one image crop it so it's just the relevant info and it matches the dimensions (3000 x 1055 px)
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We have our base! Now let's add some color, and direct the viewer's eye together!
4. pick out a color that you think matches your character / vibe - that color is going to be your background Given I'm making an Ace banner: orange is the color I'm going with
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I went and named my layers for this lol. The numbers represent the opacity, and they aren't important. I just kept changing the opacity until I liked the way things looks. But here's the secret to the 3D feel:
Motionblur (+ moving it about)
Separating the foreground and background and dulling out the background.
I'm going to show you my process so you can see the effects, but first let's give you some quick skills:
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SKILLS / THINGS I THINK ARE HELPFUL
//------- Select Similar
magic wand -> select something -> right-click -> select similar This works best when you have high contrast images (like manga panels that are black and white). You can select the black or the white areas. Depending on what works better for you. TIP! Invert selections with ctrl + i Say you know that you want to select everything but Ace's face in the second panel. Select his face with the magic wand then ctrl + i, and that's the only thing NOT selected
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TIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please, please, please, duplicate your original image and work on the duplicate layer. This helps you SO much. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TIP! Check your selection tolerance! This could be why too little, or too much is being selected.
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//------- The Move Tool
Shortcut key: v While the move tool is active, you can nudge the stuff on whatever layer with your arrow keys Shift + arrow key = 10 px move (generally)
//------- Layer Locking
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1- Layer Blending Mode (see Overlay vs Multiply vs Normal) for how this can affect results) 2- Opacity: how see through it is / isn't 3- Lock Transparency (it's the little checker board) 4- Lock Layer (looks like a lock) 5- Lock icon that appears when anything on the layer has been locked More on 3 Lock Transparency: You can only paint on / modify what's on that layer. You CANNOT add anything to any area that is already transparent Here's a demo of what you can do with this power:
Here's the original Image - notice how it's just the lineart with a transparent background.
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It's powerful: abuse it
//------- Overlay vs Multiply vs Normal
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I think seeing this is the best way to visualize how different modes can affect the color.
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Back to the Tutorial
!!I IMPORTANT NOTE !!
Please play around with the opacity slider to figure out what opacity works best for you on the multiple different layers we're about to make / work with. It's up to your own style to figure this out. Next: please feel free to not follow all of it. Add more layers, add less layers, take the base principles and go wild! :D
5. Separate the lineart from the background and save it as a new layer 6. Duplicate it and set it to overlay, or set it to overlay immediately
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7. Duplicate that lineart layer twice and set the blending mode to overlay 8. lock transparency on the top one and change it to be a dark grey 9. Apply motion blur to both:
Main menu bar -> Filter -> Motion Blur I made it so that the grey layer was blurrier than the black layer
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10. More them around a little to give it a "3D effect" as you called it.
It creates shadows under the lines - I was aiming for an effect similar to chromatic aberration (chromatic aberration is a valid way to add punch to your stuff too!)
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So this is what things look like now - painful, but let's keep going
11. Duplicate the ORIGINAL / BASE lineart layer, that you DID not apply motion blur to -> set the blend mode to multiply (reduce opacity for it to actually take effect)
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okay that's less painful here's what the layers look like right now:
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let's bring more focus to Ace's face, and push the background farther away:
12. Use the magic wand tool to quickly select large areas of the faces / focal area / foreground and the lasso tool to refine things
TIP! Hold shift + click -> add to selection Hold Alt + click -> subtract from selection
13. On a new layer with blending mode -> lighten, fill that selection to be white
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If you look at it, you'll notice that it is ALREADY starting to draw our attention to his face, but the background is kinda aggressive, so let's dim that down
TIP! Right-click on the gradient tool to find the paint-bucket tool
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TIP! Sample All Layers: Turning this option off makes it so that you only work with the content on THAT specific layer. Turning it on makes it so that it is working while taking all other layers into consideration.
14. ctrl + click on the "white foreground" layer to select the contents of that specific layer (pink thing is your mouse)
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15. ctrl + i to invert selection and ON A NEW LAYER (layer mode -> multiply) fill that with a complementary color
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16. I did one last thing where I took the original base (before we separated the lineart) and added it to the very top and played with the opacity to get something less in your face (layer blend mode was set to NORMAL)
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And that's it!
More considerations that I take:
I want the banner to be "thin" or not square, so it doesn't take up too much screen real estate on people's devices
I don't want readers having to scroll too much to get to my writing (which is the whole point of the post, let's not waste their time making them look for things)
I want the banner content to be relevant enough?
ie: with Matching: I wanted the ASCE tattoo to be visible. With matching I wanted Ace to not look too happy in some of them.
I'm also trying to avoid spoilers, I hated getting things spoiled, so I'm trying to be careful that the images I pick don't spoil anything really.
Congrats on starting life on your own! I did that whole living by myself thing too! Tip: keep the pantry stocked with lentils, beans, pastas, baking essentials, rice. They really come in a clutch when you're hungry.
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thepenguininspace · 20 days
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hiii so don't feel as though you need to answer this (/gen) or anything (bc I kinda just really wanna express how Feral your work has made me bc I haven't seen anyone else do that yet in the webtoon comments) but AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HANGHNGHGNHGNAHNHAHNGHNGHNGHNGHNGHNGHNGH WHAT. ARE YOU KIDDING ME YOUR WEBTOON IS SO GOOD AND IM??????? SPEECHLESS???????? THE ART???????? THE CHARACTERS?????? THE SUN & MOON DYNAMIC HASNA & RENN HAVE??????? THE LOVABLE SIDE CHARACTERS???????? THE SYMBOLISM IN BOTH THE ART & THE WRITING????? THE ART STYLE????????? THE MYSTERIOUS STORYLINE THAT I STILL CANT FIGURE OUT???????? I LITERALLY FOUND THE COMIC LIKE 1 OR 2 DAYS AGO (and yes I read the entire thing in one night and have been re-reading it) AND I HAVENT BEEN ABLE TO STOP THINKING ABOUT ALL YOUR CHARACTERS 😭😭😭😭 I'M GENUINELY SO COMPELLED BY YOUR STORY AND ALSO YOUR ART BC WTF IT'S LITERALLY SO FREAKING GOOD?????????? LIKE EVEN THE STUFF ON THIS BLOG!!!!!!!! AND THE COMIC ART GETS BETTER AND BETTER AND JUST. WHAT. DUDE YOU'RE DOING AMAZING WTF. if it's not obvious, I'm a bit of an art nerd sjhksdsdh BUT FR THO I have genuinely never been so feral over a webcomic before. I don't know how but your characters have captured my heart WAY faster than I ever thought they would. it's just. ugh oh my God you're so good with expressive art. I'm fr looking at your panels in awe every time and taking mental notes anyways I'm sorry to mention this but I do wanna add that I wish you the best with your mental health!! I know that depression can do absolute numbers on people, so I'm wishing you all the luck and strength you'll need to beat it again and again. I hope you're able to do your best to stay safe and take care!!!! 💗💗💗 /gen to all of that <3
HNFKADHFJFA GAHHH OMG?!?!?!? TYSM AHHHHH YOU'RE SO SWEET!!! IM SO GLAD YOU LIKE EVERYTHING ESPECIALLY THE EXPRESSIONS THEY TAKE ME SO LONG AHHHH TYTYTY
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nephilimeq · 2 years
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I wasn't referring to the panel, but to to something he said in an interview they just released. I'll send you the link and the transcript of what Hoechlin said (plus my own comments to it) via submission if that's okay with you. Feel absolutely free to post it and add your own thoughts and takes if you feel like it! I love hearing/reading them 🥰 My Sterek and Hobrien heart is so full of my god
Oh. OH!! I know what you're referring to!
The way that Hoechlin desperately was trying to find a way to mention Dylan; specifically around the fact that the actor who plays Eli Hale reminds him of both Dylan and Stiles.
HOECHLIN: I was very grateful for not just getting a producer credit, because I really wanted to participate. So reading with Vince and doing the callbacks on Zoom. Just for me, it always felt like...there's something I wanna say about Vince and the way he plays a character. Can I say who he reminds me of a little bit? DAVIS: No. HOECHLIN: No? Okay... *laughs awkwardly*
Jeff was gritting his teeth and giving him this side eye, and even said out loud that Hoechlin couldn't say anything.
That was a trip.
And I love that Hoechlin keeps on pushing it. He's being listed as a director, and now I know that the only reason why he signed on was if he could have some creative control over part of the narrative because he knows his fans.
He knows that there are so many people who don't want to watch this movie because Dylan isn't going to be in it, so he keeps on pushing the envelope, to try and remind the fans that don't want to watch it that if they do decide to watch it, that someone is in their corner--that he is doing his best to bring as much of Dylan and Stiles' spirit into it as he can.
Hoechlin has a show of his own that is still going strong--this implies that he possibly has financial leverage on Davis.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the only reason the show went forward was because Hoechlin signed on and brought some financial backing, hence the reason why Davis actually allowed him to be so involved in the casting.
We all know that Hoechlin has loved Dylan and the character of Stiles ever since the first season, so I am counting on his passion for both the actor and the character to come through in his choices for casting. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was the one who asked Dylan personally to borrow the jeep, because I can’t see Dylan taking a phone call from either Davis or Posey...but he would definitely take a call from Hoechlin.
Yeah. I have some vague hope.
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Temari's Overrated
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overrated.
I don't dislike Temari's character, I do find her overrated in comparison to other characters and here's why.
Let's look into character wise
Temari's not a bad character either but she literally has like 10 pages worth of screen time in Part 1. 5 pages worth in Part 2 (Shippuden) . Only reason she gets hyped so much is because Naruto fandom has convinced itself to believe a “badass girl who's kinda mean” equals best female character ever.
Her entire character in has been:
Gaara's older sister, She's great at wind style and Temari maybe has a crush on Shikamaru.
My other point, the ShikaTema ship. When you're on any Naruto social media (Twitter, reddit, tiktok etc). You've definitely seen people say it's “the best ship” or “the only ship that makes sense” and “the one ship that everyone likes”. I don't have any problems with it.
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But, where were are the romantic moments of Shikatema that made them the best couple in the entire series? The only time they ever even got romantically close to one another was when Shikamaru was looking for a wedding gift for Naruto and Hinata after The Last movie.
Please do not use any filler screencaps because if it didn't happen in the manga its not canon.
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And Shikamaru made it clear and that he wasn’t romantically into Temari before this event due to how oblivious he was to Temari.
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People shit on Naruto for being oblivious/dense to Hinata’s feelings despite the fact that there is a canon explanation as to why he couldn’t understand Hinata’s feelings. But nobody says anything about Shikamaru being dense to Temari as well despite having a good upbringing and understanding how his parents speak with each other romantically.
Certain (some not all) people claim that Shikamaru and Temari already had chemistry since OG Naruto and only panel they use to support it this:
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the only conversation between Shikamaru and Temari that can be seen as chemistry in a sense without it being half-way or taken out of context like most people do with this couple.
People like to compare them to other ships that had WAY more moments and screentime. Just because they have no drama.
most ships, these two characters have little to no interactions. What makes it worse, you can't even give them the benefit of the doubt for having offscreen interactions as when they live three days away from each other. Meanwhile, something like Naruto and Hinata or Sai and Ino likely had interacted offscreen 
Let's be honest here, the author said it himself Naruto is a battle shōnen manga romance was never a main focus. It will always be secondary part or not there at all like other shōnen.
 her power-scaling
This isn't to say Temari is weak I say she is at least Jonin level
As far as war arc, Temari literally doesn't due much at all compared to others. Manga whatever the anime adds is NOT CANON
She did one thing in war arc :
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With the help of two other shinobi, she managed to damage base edo third raikage. Assuming he was actually blitzed and didn't just decide to tank it (since they stated they haven't inflicted any significant damage, implying he likely didn't even care to dodge)
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This is anime-only aka filler that's not canon to manga
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(Even if you did consider this a feat, Madara just dusted himself off like nothing happen and set up for fire style.)
Comparing other Konoha memebers
Can you tell me something important that Temari ever did to develop the plot? People insult female characters like sakura, karin and Ino but they contributed far more than temari. Heck, even tenten with her little screentime helped more than Temari.
Sakura: Contributed alot during the war, became one of the best medical ninja
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Hinata: Assisted Ino in redirecting the ten-tails attack by linking her byakugan to Ino’s mind transfer. Saved the whole shinobi alliance including Naruto, Killer B, Might Guy and Kakashi. Helped Naruto when he was about to give-in after witnessing neji’s death.
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Ino: Linked everybody multiple times during the war together. She was the only person capable of doing that from her clan. Besides her father.
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Karin: Helped Tsunade retore her reserves. Also destroyed multiple shinzu arms that zetsu tried to use to kill team taka and the shinobi. She was one of the most important memebers that sasuke had in team taka.
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Tenten: A memeber of the team 10(chapter258) who was sent to rescue Temari’s brother while temari did absolutely nothing. Temari only arrived after gaara had died. Tenten was also one of those who destroyed more than one of kakuzu’s heart.
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I shouldn't have say much about Mei & Tsunade.
Could list more but, I want to keep this short.
Temari as a character, has no purpose after the chunin exams arc, where her best feats was defeating Tenten (basically fodder) and defeating an already weakened Tayuya.
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Which begs the question.how is Temari a well written character if she's barely around. Only Gaara was the most relevant sibling. The sand village in general wasn't that important. Most notable characters were Gaara, Chiyo and Sasori that were relevant from the Sand. Maybe If I push it, their father the previous Kage and the bijuu Shukaku.
( Edit: Looking back & a comment I can't reply back for a odd reason. Kankuro did have a bit of a bigger role than his sister)
Temari seems like one of the most overrated characters in the show upon her non relevant appearances for the plot compared to other female characters.
again I don't dislike this character, I just think in certain aspects she's overrated.
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emptyeyesm · 2 years
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I wrote this fanfiction yesterday, when the idea popped in my head. At first, I just wanted to create another uncorrect quote, but I wrote way too much for it to just be a joke.
So, I present you "Sad angel" and I apologize right now for the english. It's not my first language and I know it won't be perfect. Anyway, hope you still have fun reading it !
Have a good day sweetheart ❤
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Crowley likes to spend evenings in Aziraphale's sofa. He would spend more time in this spot, inhaling the reassuring scent and memorising the wooden patterns on the ceiling than at his own house.
But this evening, something was different. Something was off, wrong, really bad even. He didn't like the taste of the air. He hated the look on his angel's face and the invisible twitch in his wings.
Crowley : Aziraphale.
Aziraphale : Yes, dear?
Crowley : Are you... feeling sad?
Aziraphale : A little bit- wait. How did you know?
Crowley : Intuition. Let's do something to change your mood.
Aziraphale, incertain : What are you thinking about?
Crowley : Trust me. I'm planning that for a while.
Crowley got out of the bookshop, on his way to the Bentley, but he came back in.
Crowley : Ah. Follow me.
~Later, in the street~
Aziraphale : What are we doing here?
Crowley didn't answer and put a cardboard in his hands. Then, with a not so rare softness on this specific demon behalf, he placed his hands on Aziraphale's shoulders.
Crowley : Hold this and shower people who show up with compliments and confort words. I'm sure you will do great.
Aziraphale : I must admit I'm kind of confused by your behavior.
Crowley still had his glasses on, but Aziraphale could feel his intense stare on his face. As he waited for a sign, Crowley gave away a soft smile, the kind of smile able to make the angel melt inside.
Crowley : Everything will become clear once you read the sign.
Aziraphale lowered his eyes and read "Free hugs" on the cardboard. He raised his head again with the biggest smile on his lips.
Aziraphale : So, are you my first costumer?
Crowley : What? No, no, I mean... I could be, but it wasn't part of the plan.
Aziraphale : I want you to be my first.
It was Crowley's turn to lower his head. Without a word, he took the last step that separated him from the bookseller and filled the hole in Aziraphale's neck with his head.
Quickly, he felt two arms surrounding his thin body and the demon could have swear he never felt his human heart beat so fast. Crowley shortened the embrace, embarrassed but happier than ever, even though he would never admit it.
Crowley : You already have success.
Aziraphale : All thanks to you.
Crowley gave away that soft smile again and Aziraphale dazedly wondered if he kept it all the time they hugged. At this moment, he felt stupid to be jealous that he didn't get it to see it if that was the case.
Crowley : Anyway, I should move so people can see the panel. I will stay the whole time by your side, don't worry. Unless you prefer that I leave...?
Aziraphale : I would never wish for you not to be around.
Crowley : Obviously, you would miss me real fast.
Aziraphale : Exactly, my dear.
Crowley was just half-joking half-flirting, like he is used to. He surely didn't expect Aziraphale to answer anything to it. He quickly passed by his side and commonly posed on the wall behind, hoping to hide his trouble. Aziraphale didn't add anything, but would have voluntarily admit he took pride in the way he responded.
Crowley's idea soon became an attraction in London. Everyone wanted a gentle hug from the blond guy who looked so happy to open his arms to every person in the world. Everyone wanted to hear one of his kind words that can fix any broken heart.
No need to say Aziraphale sometimes used a miracle or two when he could help a precious human being.
The whole thing gained its populary thanks to an anymous tweet in which the author claimed he had the best hug he could have ever wished for in his entire life. In the comments, other "costumers" claimed they never read anything truer than that.
Some of them explained how the man was so attentive and thoughtful : "I told him things I never said to anyone, he listened the whole thing and empathized to all of it as if it was his own story. I never felt so seen before"; "I told him I was trans and explained how my family rejected me. His first reaction was to tell me there was enough place for anyone in his arms, heart and family. He told me I was invited in his workplace anytime. I will absolutely visit him soon."
The massive and genuine love he received made many perplexed, and the haters comments were magically erased right away...
Crowley hates to share, but he knew this idea he stole on the Internet would make both Aziraphale and the humans he cherishes happy. So, he bore the weight of his half-regrets... at the beginning.
After some time, the customers began to realize they knew each other. It was easy to guess by the way each time Aziraphale hugged someone, he turned around towards that slick-looking ginger guy with a grateful gaze.
Surprisingly, many people asked him for a hug as well when they weren't scared he might be a killer at night. Aziraphale would secretly thanked all of them for not lefting him out.
Everyone assumed they were a married couple and fully accepted it from the start. That's why in the comments, we could also read : "He is the nicer person I've ever met. I wish him the best and I'm glad he found the love of his life" or "I can't believe I was scared of his goth husband ! Mr.Fell told me he was the one who came up with the idea!".
These kind of comments were always liked by the anonymous author.
By the end of the day, there were so many people still wanting to meet him up that he promised to come back the day after. With a lightened heart, Aziraphale hopped in the car. At this moment, he completely forgot how bad of a driver his "husband" was. Crowley sat as well, held the steering wheel, but didn't start the engine right away. In a whisper, he asked Aziraphale if he was still sad. Even though the angel could have said "no" immediately, he took his time to think a bit.
Aziraphale : The sadness I was feeling is nothing compared to my actual happiness. I was sad because I felt like maybe, I could have been a better angel. Today, I felt good but not in an ethereal way. In a human way. I think it's even better.
Crowley : I was scared you might get overwhelmed by so many people.
Aziraphale : I was anxious at my first clients, but when I realized they all just needed that and were enjoying it, I could have hold them all day long ! I made friends today, and you did too.
Crowley : I don't need friends. I just need you, happy and healthy.
Aziraphale pretended he didn't hear that second part.
Aziraphale : I spent years thinking that. Now I realized we all do, and none of today's events would have happened without you ! You should be proud.
Crowley : I'm proud, but not for that reason.
Aziraphale : For what then?
Crowley smirked with a teasing look.
Crowley : I got you out of your comfort zone for an entire evening, and it wasn't because of the apocalypse.
Aziraphale rolled his eyes and finally realized where he was.
Aziraphale : You better drive us safe to the bookshop.
Crowley : Safety is your middle name, not mine.
Aziraphale : We don't have mid-
Before he could finish his sentence, Crowley had began to drive way over the speed limits.
On the way back home, the demon was thinking about either or not he should show him the tweet. After all, even though Aziraphale knows nothing about technology, he is not stupid enough to not realize who is behind it..., right?
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thattimdrakeguy · 7 months
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Every time i see someone try to defend James Gunn, they just repeat what he said while acting like it's genius. And it reminds me of apes eating their own shit.
like thanks, luv, really fucking putting in the man power to add to the conversation
couldn't give less of a shit people might like it, 'cause have you seen the dc fandom? they'll eat anything as long as it vaguely looks like something they may or may not like, or at least something in the peripheral of what they like
and it isn't a crime to like stuff, but it also isn't a crime to not like stuff either, honey bunch
but fucking hell. over a thousand likes on tweets that are saying absolutely nothing of merit. and i am so confused
No shit he's only going to be saying shit people want to hear.
And I'm some Snyder Cult bastard, I don't think I liked any Snyder DC movie all the way. Most of them were severely lacking.
but so many of james gunn's decisions are still wack as fuck
like how many of zack snyder's decisions are wack as fuck
James Gunn's skipping how many robins? and i know, he says he'll have all of them, but fucking hell that's so ridiculous if this universe is supposed to last awhile. all those stories that you can take inspiration from, critically adored stories that have immense cinematic potential
and james gunn's bright idea IS TO MAKE A BASTARDIZED ADAPTATION OF A STORY THAT ONLY WORKED BECAUSE OF VERY VERY SPECIFIC SITUATIONS THAT HE IS PURPOSELY NOT GONNA HAVE
that is one of the stupidest things i've ever heard in my life. the fact i haven't seen more people say that sounds ridiculous is baffling me. because while i can sometimes get why people wouldn't sometimes with many other things i say, i cannot with this. it's like he's TRYING to make a shitty batman movie. or at least an insanely disappointing one that let go of the gold he had literally right in front of him
i'm not asking for a word by word, panel by panel recreation of a story. JUST USE THE OBVIOUSLY PREVIOUSLY EXISTING FANTASTIC WORK INSTEAD OF COMPLETELY MISUNDERSTANDING WHY AN okay at best STORY WORKED
and he's going to have all these random movies, but not include characters that would be important to the greater DC world?
and he got the guy that directed a flash parody and pretended it was a serious movie to do this batman movie? when he made batman look like the Dude from Big Lewbowski and talk in a way that didn't even resemble Batman? and made all of his problems seem like a joke?
also while they're making sequels the critically acclaimed Batman movie, that people are more likely to look more forward to, because even though i didn't care for the movie, it at least looks like some cinematic effort was put into it enough to be an enjoyable watch that doesn't make you question your life choices because of how stupid it is. it's a lacking movie to me, but at least i feel like the people involved tried in a way that didn't feel like a child writing a fan fiction
'cept maybe a teenager, with kurt cobain inspired batman
i don't have to take a side to decide shit is wack as fuck
many thinks, are incredibly wack
i am a human being with a brain, i can look at things and figure out that shit looks like it's going to be total garbage, and will at best only be a good movie if you know jack shit or have no standards
just watch and talk about shit like human beings. i don't care if you like it or not, because you know what saying falsified bullshit about a guy you don't know or like, looks like? like you're a fucking maniac
like it
don't like it
but why is it so hard to people act like people? i keep avoiding anything DC related on my recommended trends on twitter, then i have a moment where i hope for the best, and every time, it's just garbage everywhere
it's not difficult to consume things in a world layered with shades of gray.
this black and white bullshit is fucking infuriating and makes it real hard to enjoy anything, when you have an echo chamber of dumbasses clamping down on it on the internet
i'm not even asking people to act like well-mannered gentlemen. that would be boring, and i feel people should be free to express their emotions as long as they aren't hurting anyone
i'm just asking them to think a little harder before they say the dumbest shit imaginable
james gunn is the guy who made one of the main points of guardians 3, that heroes don't kill people. while every appearance of the characters is them killing people, because they deserve to be killed.
like i'm not making a plea about the importance of the death penalty
but giving an obviously highly dangerous person, who has the potential to dismantle the fucking universe at least a smackrel of a chance to get out, is fucking stupid
it's stupid
superman letting lex luthor live, because he's just a man, and hasn't done anything to that extreme, may make that make sense
having batman not kill because he's worried he won't stop killing himself gives us an interest character perspective
giving the villain who still has a chance to be better, a chance to get better, allows that moral to be a thing
but letting the heroic murderers let the guy that killed conceivably BILLIONS AND BILLIONS, UPON BILLIONS OF PEOPLE DIE BECAUSE HE WAS JUST A TICKLE UNPLEASED
IS
STUPID
i'm not trusting that mother fucker to make a whole universe work. when his movies before have only worked, exclusively because they were allowed to be their own things in the corner of a universe, where they hardly have any meaning to the rest of the world, besides a relation to the big stories big bad
he is a good film maker. i like most of his movies
but fucking hell. it's not insanity to insist the guy who has shown he makes bad decisions so far, may be making bad decisions. even if in the end the decisions may not be AWFUL
it doesn't mean he's doing a good job in the slightest
i'll give the fact he isn't bringing back the whole justice league a break, because we just had a justice league and maybe time will be good
but his other decisions make him look like a moron to me
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eisforeidolon · 2 years
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Fan Question: So I asked this question six years ago at Nerd HQ, [Jensen explains what Nerd HQ is and agrees with the fan those were good fun panels] - I asked you from the start of Supernatural to now if you had anything that you could add to your resume. COVID, it's been years, is there any special talents or anything that you think is funny that you could add to your resume?
Jensen: Like 'special skills'? [someone in audience says tap dancing] Yeah, I guess I could add tap dancing. [fans laugh] Didn't ever expect to ... be able to add that but I guess I can now. Um, I don't - yeah, I'll say one that I'm kind of proud of. And I'm only saying this because I've been told I can say this, not because I'm like, 'Yeah! [fakes puffing out chest]'. Fight coordinator - fight choreographer. That literally came from John Koyama who's stunt coordinator of The Boys. We had those - for those who have seen The Boys [audience wooing] - there's some substantial fight sequences and action sequences and that. Because it's such a big show and has the budget, we got to rehearse those for like weeks in advance - which you never get on Supernatural or even Big Sky. Network television's a little different than a streamer. So we got to get in there and like [mimes along as he says] work out the movements and like figure out how we, y'know okay we're gonna do a punch here and then he's gonna grab y'know you and throw you into the wall and stuff. And I just, I just made suggestions because I've done punchy punchy scenes a few times. And I enjoy them. And so after we did - there was a big one in episode six, and the we had another big one in episode eight, and Koyama is a [gestures upwards] highly decorated stunt coordinator and one of the best I've ever worked with. He was like, 'Dude, I feel like I need to give you fight choreographer credit on this show.' And that was one of the biggest compliments I've ever gotten. And it was just like, 'Okay, lemme see that again? Alright.' And my stunt doubles would show us what they had worked out and it was like, 'Okay, what if I like did this [mimes fight movements as he talks] and then rolled into and was like and boom and then the elbow' and he's like, 'Ohmygosh, yeah, I love that, do that!' So it was very - I loved that, one of the great things about doing what I get to do is collaborating and creating with just insanely talented people? I love that. Not just fighting, but like even doing a scene, you know? Jared and I would sit down and we'd always find these little moments that weren't in the script and that just - it's awesome. I love that. So. Yeah, I'll take fight choreographer. Throw that on the 'special skills' list.
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smajorqna · 1 year
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Hello!
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Welcome to the blog i made because i thought of it in class and i need some sort of way to feed my hyperfixation.
Here is a carrd with more info about this mess. (coming soon)
All art belongs to me!! I made it!! Please dont steal or use for ai (sense thats been getting popular recently..). And please ask before reposting and if your too nervous please at least credit me :)
(Press "Read More" below for tldr for the carrd and an ID for each image)
(Last updated: 12/10/22 11:19am CDT)
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And now if you look just below youll see all the tags i use and what they mean :) (more will be added in the future)
#smajorqna - all posts posted on this blog
#4th wall breakthrough - ooc posts
#smajor of rivendell - all answers from c!scott
#hearts the creator tm - all answers/cameos from my persona, hearts
#hello deer anon - all questions from fellow anons! Hello anons :)
#(tw/cw here) - obviously wont say that exactly but if a post talks about anything triggering or anything that needs warning i will put it there and i will put it at the beginning of the post :)
#posts about beloved husband - posts mentioning or even including the one and only codfather (will be also used as flower husbands tag so if you don't wanna see that block it!!!)
#cameos - other character cameos featured
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Heres the tldr of the carrd: (aka a list of things i need to add to it)
This is C!/CHARACTER!!! In no way am i impersonating scott the content creator. I am simply answering questions the way i think his esmp1 character would answer.
Admittedly, i have never watched scotts esmp1 series- i mostly know about his character through clips, fanfics, fanarts, and other fans. I know im such a fake fan /sarc so if i get any lore or canon wrong please tell me and ill do my best to fix it. If i cannot, then oh well to bad so sad.
This will include my personal headcanons so if you haven't heard of whatever even or something from canon, its most likely a headcanon
This will also include flower husbands (c!scott x c!jimmy) so uh yeah dont imply any other ships other than them only because i dont personally ship it (its fine if you do, i have nothing wrong with that :) just keep it out of this blog)
Everything you see on this blog was done on my phone using my finger. So obviously there will be mistakes. So yk use common sense and dont point them out :) its rude.
And lastly, this is literally my first time doing this ever so please be nice, im sensitive
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[Panel 1 (one): (start id) outlined and colorless drawing of empires season 1 (one) character scott looking confused or worried, there's a question mark symbol next to him showing he's confused. He's looking at another character to the right with the same drawing style. Scott's outline/lineart is a dark cyan. To the right of scott there's a character with shortish hair, pointy ears like scotts, with a plain t-shirt. They look feminine-ish and their expression looks happy. Near them is text saying "Me, the creator tm" pointing to them. The character's outline/lineart is a dark magenta-ish, or a really red pink. On the bottom of the screen is a grey box with a smaller box on the top left corner saying "Scott" in a dark cyan. Below is text in the same color saying "So.. Remind me of what to do here..?". (End id)]
[Panel 2 (two): (start id) Same character's and poses as panel 1 (one) with different expressions. Scott's expression is still similar, except this time his mouth is closed. The character's (who's name is Hearts) expression changed to them talking with their eyes closed. They look happy. Below them is the same dialogue box except with a different name and obviously different text. The name now reads "Hearts" and the dialogue says "You're going to answer some questions from people because I'm bored and I need something better to do with my life. :)" in the same color used for Hearts' outline. (End id)]
[Panel 3 (three): (start id) Scott is now center with Hearts gone, leaving a "Bye!" where they were last. Scott then looks to the left with an exhausted look. In the dialogue box it says in the dark cyan outline scott has with scotts name above, "This will be easier said than done..." (End id)]
Also yes ik the original third panel i misspelled "easier" but its too late now im tired
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starship-imzadi · 11 days
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S6 E5 Schims
I think Riker always looks better in royal or dark blue
It's so rare to see something as normal as a sink.
The last two episodes Marina's wig has either been styled differently or is a different wig all together. I think it looks terrible.
It's sweet that everyone is so supportive of Data. But if no one showed up Data's feelingd wouldn't be hurt; He would just lose out on an experience that humans get when their friends support them.
Troi nudging Riker because he's falling asleep never fails to crack me up. (I had a dear friend in college who struggled to stay awake when the lights were low. He told me to punch him if he started snoring. In my mind there are similar vibes.)
For a second I wondered if a hot toddy was the best choice, because alcohol disrupts REM sleep, but then I remembered they don't do real alcohol so that wouldn't be a problem anyway. But it's odd that given his tight neck she doesn't offer him a muscle relaxer (which would also help with sleep.) What kind of training does Start Fleet give their doctors?...
It's weird that they walk around the ship in an emergency. Why not beam everywhere?
It's interesting that Riker asks a personal favor, for Geordi to make sure he's awaken in the morning, to which Geordi replies "sure, comander" in such a formal retention of title.
It's crazy Riker's bed looks like and actual bed with sheets and a soft pillow! Weird.
Poor Riker. Sleep deprivation is the worst.
So much about Worf's hair cut scene is terrible. The cape didn't clasp properly. The barber just free hands cutting his hair (and his scissors are much to high to even be just trimming the ends).
Is the device on board there just for Geordi? (Do we ever see it again?) It seems so specific and no one else has a device like his.
It's weird but in that intercut clip of Riker's hands across the helm control: I'm quite positive those are not Frakes' hands; they don't match him (but do I know what his hands look like?). It's weird because Riker is having an odd experience looking at his own hands at the console but it's for a completely different reason than why it feels like an odd experience to me.
Who is this other random crew member? Why is she the only non commanding officer? (If aliens picked on the lower decks more often instead of the people in charge they'd get away with a lot more.)
(This lower shot angle in the holodeck is weird. Why are they doing that?)
Long and rectangular 😂 that really narrows it down right? (Of course it's long. It has to fit Rikers 6' 3" self). Also 25% reduction which way?
The first metal table.....is definitely not a table. I read a reddit post discussing this scene comparing it to a Google search which made me realize: this really gives the impression that the Computer is pulling from a stock data base trying to find a single predefined object that fits the highest number of given filtered criteria as possible. I was thinking if it more like than how AI works now, where information is collected and sorted by characteristics and then those data points are fed into a generator to manufacture something new. It is funny that sometimes the computer needs more specifics, and other times it put up with the most vague instructions.
Riker's and Troi's hair look so poofy under that top light.
That's a tiny control panel. I figured it would be bigger, like the helm control, so it would make sense that it triggered the memory.
It's ridiculous to realize the computer knew random people were disappearing of the Enterprise but didn't say anything before now simply because no-one thought to ask.
Man that's crazy. Now, bone will actually naturally shave down and add material where it needs to for year after a break if it doesn't heal exactly line up. But think how traumatic it would be to know your arm has been amputated and reattached without you knowing.
All in all this is the makings of PTSD. They've all been kidnapped and operated on, without their knowledge or consent, but they all have some memories much like IOA (inter operation awareness) in surgery under general anesthetic.
I'd like to point out that these tables are not, in fact, at an angle.
Well.... that was intense. So many dangerous unknowns.
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The thing is, because they (Konoha ninjas) are a part of the protagonists, the good guys, the village as a whole is portrayed as being better or not as cruel as other villages (though the shinobi world is cruel so it’s not like it’s gonna be sunshine and rainbows no matter what) but it still has it’s darkness, represented in Danzo and Root and the biggest stain on the village is of course the Uchiha massacre. I think a big part of why so many people end up hating Konoha is because of this: we are told Konoha is the good guys then they do something like this, and with the UM being such a prominent plot point, it’s easy to feel cheated in a way if that makes sense (I remember when I first watched the anime I was feeling sort of lost after this revelation because what would Sasuke do now? No matter what he did he wouldn’t have anything, he wouldn’t have the village anymore…(before I realized he would always have Naruto no matter what lol)) And also it can be provoking to have someone tell you over and over that they’re good and then be “hiding” something so dark. And I’m not saying the UM was ridiculous because in the situational context it makes sense because they were planning to overthrow the leadership of the village but that same leadership is the reason they got to that point to begin with so there aren’t any innocents in this. But if we look at this will of fire that the Uchiha never really adopted but that the Hokages starting with Hashirama put so much weight on, which is something a lot of anti-konoha like to call fascist propaganda (which it might be, I don’t have the knowledge to say either or in this) it’s actually not hard to understand why they put so much weight on it. Especially from Hashirama and Tobirama who lived in the era of warring clans. Because the village system would only work if everyone involved was willing to put the needs and wants of their clan aside and be part of a whole. Which the Uchiha never did fully.
I hope there is something in this that makes sense hahaha. I just needed to write down my thoughts on it.
I am so glad to answer this Ask... seriously!!! And very excited to find that there is someone out there who is being very realistic by acknowledging the mistakes of the Uchiha Clan which is a super rarity here in Tumblr. Thanks again!!!!
[[Disclaimer: Lengthy and Panel-Heavy post.... Read at your best time...
This post is intended for people who are Open-minded and want to know about a rare perspective that strictly adheres to Canon... Not based on Head-Canon or self-Projection.
 Anti-Konoha, Extremist Sasuke fans, Uchiha Apologists... Don’t interact]]
Again, for the Millionth time, neither me nor this Anon supports this Massacre in any way. With that being said,
UCM REVELATION AND IT’S CONSEQUENCES
First off,
Will of Fire is something a lot of anti-konoha like to call fascist propaganda (which it might be, I don’t have the knowledge to say either or in this)
I too wanted to know about this so-called “Fascist Propaganda”.... And I sent an Ask to this amazing Blogger @dinainwater... back when I was a newcomer to this Fandom and I got a sharp and precise response. PLEASE READ IT... [Link]
And also it can be provoking to have someone tell you over and over that they’re good and then be “hiding” something so dark.
Hiding means Hiding the Uchiha Clan Massacre (UCM) from revealing it to the public, Right???? I think this panel gave rise to this idea???
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"I doubt they'll ever speak a word of their sickening knowledge to anyone"
Like you said, I agree that this UM is a big stain on Konoha... But what people are failing to understand is that it's even more of an unremovable stain on Uchiha Clan as well. Somehow, people just don't understand this part.
And this panel adds even more fuel to the burning fire....
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And added to that... This,
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Naruto really wanted to say this to his friends to defend Sasuke’s behaviour. But Kakashi stops him.... [[Because of this there is lot of Kakashi hate here...Sigh!!!]]
All the panels I've attached above gives this feeling that Konoha hides this incident from the public because of the possibility of loss of Reputation about the Hokage or Higher-Ups or both. Sasuke stans hates Naruto for keeping quiet about this matter and some SNS fans thinks that Naruto was brainwashed to keep quiet... 
They always go this way, "Well, Sasuke lost his family and his clan for this village. But somehow, Konoha Higher-Ups don't reveal it to the Public because people would lose trust on the Leadership and it will cause a Civil Unrest. So, they conveniently hide everything for their benefit and made Sasuke to "Endure" in the end (in chapter 699) by brainwashing him about Will of Fire Fascist propaganda"
And somehow they all believe that by revealing this, Magically all the Villagers will gang up together and overthrow their Leadership and hail Sasuke as their Hokage...
This is how they always go about, Right???? Right???
But that's not how it will go.... That's for sure. This Manga has lots of panels and patterns to prove it.
It's been repeated over and over again that the Uchiha clan is a celebrated clan among the Konoha Villagers. We have Zabuza, Kakashi, Lee, Neji, Orochimaru and many more who acknowledge this fact. And I am not going to attach all those panels here. Instead I'll just attach one.
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This one is enough. No explanation needed. People were so excited to watch the Match of Sasuke than any other contenders there... 
And we all know how loyal Konoha Villagers are.... towards their own comrades & their Hokage & ESPECIALLY THEIR VILLAGE ....
The following panel is from the Konoha Crush Arc from Part 1.
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The moment Hiruzen was attacked, every Jounin had started to gather and wanted to protect their Hokage & also their Village. [[They started to attack Orochimaru even though he is from this very Village]]
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This is another instance where Konoha Shinobis were talking about Itachi from their own point of view. They couldn't tolerate him because he killed his own clan members from their Village.... And added to it, he even attacked Konoha by joining Akatsuki. They term Itachi as the Biggest Villain in their History. [[Even though Itachi was from their very own Village]].... 
[[It’s funny... In this scene, none of the villagers were demonizing Uchiha Clan or Sasuke.... Some people claim, Uchiha Clan people were ostracized by the Villagers as well... How come people sympathize an Ostracized Clan and a member from that clan??? I really wonder]]
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We know that Jiraiya and Tsunade are very good friends. But still he went on to warn her that, "If you ever do anything to betray Konoha.. I'll Kill You.."
Remember at this point, Hiruzen was already dead. It's not like Jiraiya was acting like a Loyal Dog to his own Sensei or Hokage or something.... No... He don’t even have any relatives in that village..... He is talking about the Village as a Whole. It’s also funny that Jiraiya didn’t give 2 fucks about the fact that Tsunade was the grandchild of 1st Hokage [[Even though Tsunade is from this very own Village]]
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Here Shikamaru is openly claiming that he don't like Sasuke... And he is not obligated to... But still he went to claim that, "But like us, Sasuke is a Shinobi of Konoha. He is our Comrade!!! Therefore I'll stake my life to rescue him... That's the Konoha Way..."
Even though, Sasuke has joined Orochimaru who attempted to destroy their village few chapters before.... Even though he personally don't like him.... Somehow he is willing to put his life on line to rescue Sasuke. Not only him... Chouji, Neji almost went to the Edge of Death... And we've never seen these boys had any friendly interaction with Sasuke so far. So, why are they helping him???? Naruto trying to retrieve Sasuke is reasonable and understandable. But why them??? That's because Sasuke also belong to the same Village as them.
Even after 3 years, they never demonized Sasuke...
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And there is a separate arc, where 2 teams from Konoha (Team 7 & Kiba's Team) were sent out to save Sasuke....
It's only after they heard about Sasuke joining Akatsuki, the organization who reduced Konoha into Smithereens.... Konoha 12 decided to kill Sasuke.
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They were all okay and accepted Sasuke as their comrade even though he joined Orochimaru. But the moment they heard about him joining Akatsuki... They came to the conclusion of killing him. [[Even though Sasuke is from their own Village]]
The pattern here is that Every Villagers care about their comrades & their Hokage.... But most importantly, they prioritize their Village more than anything else. Jiraiya cares about Tsunade... Heck!!! He even loved her.... But If he ever found out that she betrayed that Village, he would kill her. Same with Konoha 12 in Sasuke’s case. 
In the above panel, When Konoha 12 decides to kill Sasuke, Tsunade was under coma and the village has no official Hokage..... This is not some loyalty to their current Hokage or their Councilors. It’s all about protecting their Home. That’s all. And every villagers has this same spirit. 
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This is the very same spirit that made Itachi to prioritize the Village over his own family.... even if it means his own death. 
[[That’s precisely why Sasuke (as a voice for the audience) asking the Hokages... What is this Village??? Why everyone is going so far to protect this place even though they don’t get anything from it???]]
Now where I am getting at????
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“They call it revolution, but if their real intention is to take back political power, we’ll have to treat them as Rebels”
Considering all the above incidents & patterns.....
How do you think the Villagers of Konoha will take this news about Uchiha Massacre????? 
It will go like this, And I am not going to hide any facts here...
“Dear Villagers, 
Some years ago, Uchiha Clan was massacred by Uchiha Itachi on the Orders of Konoha Higher-Ups especially Danzo. They did this because Uchiha Clan wanted to take over the Village and was planning to abduct the Hokage for their Political Revolution....They decided to take over the village because they were asked to move to the Outskirts of the Village and the clan members felt they were being discriminated by the Higher Ups... This decision was taken as the result from the suspicion that arise from the Kyuubi Incident that took place 16 years ago because Kyuubi can be controlled only by the Visual Prowess of Uchiha... As it happens, Kyuubi was indeed released by our seemingly Fallen Hero of Kannabi Bridge, Uchiha Obito and it was successfully stopped by Our Fourth Hokage at the expense of his own life. Itachi murdered his own clan members to stop the Coup and worked for the Akatsuki to protect our Village from inside” 
[[Yes, the mastermind behind the Kyuubi incident should also be revealed,,, because that’s when all the problems started]]
If this news was revealed to the Public..... How do you think the villagers will react??????
They will ask a series of Questions.... But Before that.... I would love to throw in few facts.....
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Every Hokages were revered and adored by the Villagers.... Especially Hiruzen. It was even mentioned in the Data book... “In the History of Konoha, no Hokage is as beloved by the people as Hiruzen”
Well.... You and I may hate Hiruzen.... But everyone loved him in that Village... Naruto loved him.... Kakashi loved him... Sasuke’s Father included...
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Why would Fugaku name his Son after Third Hokage’s Father’s name???? Before the Kyuubi incident, Hiruzen was unanimously beloved by everyone.... Uchiha Members included. 
Now back to the Topic.... 
If UCM incident was revealed to the Public..... The Villagers will pose a series of Questions!!!! And their questions would go like this:
1. We all respected and considered Uchihas as the Prestigious clan of Konoha.. But Just to take over the Village, they decided to abduct our Sandaime and subjugate all of us..... Have they ever considered us as their Comrades????? Is this how they respect us, for all the respect we have shown to them???
2. I belong to Nara Clan....  We specialize in making Medicine... I belong to Yamanaka Clan.... We specialize in selling Flowers and handling Sensory system of Konoha.... I belong to Akimichi Clan.... We specialize in selling Food Products... I belong to Hyuga, another Prestigious Clan of Konoha.... We don’t hold any special position in this village....And Yet Uchiha Clan was given the Military Police Force.... A Military Power inside a Military Village... And yet they try to take over the Village with that very power they have Given??? None of our clan members were in The Hokage Council or none of our Clan members became an Hokage.... And yet we never tried to kidnap our Hokage or plan to perform Coup detat... Why should Uchiha Clan be superior for all of us???? Aren’t we all equal??? Or How are we lesser than Uchiha clan in any way???
3. They even decided to kidnap our Sandaime Hokage???????
4. So Kyuubi was released by another Uchiha???? 
5. And during that Kyuubi incident, I lost my Husband..... I lost my Child.... I lost my Wife.... So, behind all of this.... there is an Uchiha???
6. And in that Kyuubi incident, We all lost our Beloved Yondaime Hokage!!!
7. So Danzo and Itachi decided to protect our Village from this Coup Detat????
8. Itachi must be a Great Hero. Danzo must be a benevolent man... (Fuck!!)
9. So Sasuke killed both Danzo and Itachi, who tried to protect this village.... And decided to join Akatsuki along with Madara who released Kyuubi 16 years ago.... Sasuke must be planning to revive the Uchiha Clan by taking over the Village. 
10. What was Sasuke planning to do with Obito, a guy who released Kyuubi and also started this World war???
So..... This is how the conversation will go.... 
There is no valid proof that Konoha or Sasuke can provide to prove that Kyuubi incident has nothing to do with the Uchiha Clan..... Because years later, Uchiha Clan planned to do what Obito wanted to do... That is to create a chaos in the Village... And after many years Sasuke joined Akatsuki which was started by that very Obito.... 
And in the End.... Sasuke would be branded as the Traitor of the Village, even though he had a change of heart and Uchiha Clan will be resented by the Villagers forever. 
Is this what Anti-Konoha Stans want???? To make Sasuke’s life even more unbearable????
I have showed you from above panels, how the Villagers are very possessive about their Home .... No matter what, the Villagers would resent anyone who betray their Village. 
Just like how they 
How will the UCM revelation alone would bring justice to that clan???? It would instead muddy their name and Sasuke would be resented like a piece of Shit... How will the Villagers perceive a Clan who once decided to perform Coup Detat by subjugating all the other clans????? Especially those villagers treated that Clan with utmost respect!!!! This Political Discrimination sob story would only be laughed out by everyone alike because of the Point 2, I mentioned above. They would simply ask, “You guys are so powerful by holding the Law Enforcement Position and yet you want more power by abducting our Hokage???”
Let me repeat the panel which I mentioned above.... 
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If only Naruto said the truth here..... Do you know what Kiba will ask him??? 
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“So the Uchiha Clan was planning a coup......”
This is the first question that Kiba will ask him, “So they were planning to take over the village???”.... Even Naruto himself knows that Coup detat was wrong and that’s why Itachi shuts him off just like how Kakashi shuts Naruto off in the previous panel ....
Kiba and others won’t be sympathizing with Uchiha Clan or Sasuke. Plus they will ask all the questions I’ve mentioned above which will create another big mess...
If you want another perspective,
Let me put it this way.... 
Just because Naruto housed Kyuubi inside him, the villagers mistreated him a lot because they also suffered from the monster he carried inside him.... 
If only the real mastermind behind the Kyuubi incident was revealed, What do the villagers think about the Uchiha Clan as a whole??? Are they going to say, “Just because one Uchiha did it, it’s pointless to blame the entire clan” thingy and daintily wipe Sasuke’s tears????.... Well, it may look pointless to blame the entire clan..... for the people who sip cold coffee and watch this series from their Couch... But the characters inside the series will never think in that way. 
This following panel proves the entire point... This scene happens right before the Gaara speech about re-uniting and fighting together for the 4th shinobi world war.
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“Hell yeah.... I do.... You sand bastards killed my father, I got no problem taking one of you out!”
This dude is angry because some Sand shinobi killed his father. But Instead of pointing the one who killed his dad, he is starting to blame the entire village for his pain. And this is how people will be like everywhere, Konoha people included. Sasuke also.
Even Sasuke knew that the Elders were the only culprits behind that thing.... But still he blamed the ENTIRE VILLAGE and wanted to destroy it as a whole. 
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Why couldn’t those apologists ask the same question to Sasuke, “Oii, Sasuke.... Just because 3 Old crows did a mistake how could you blame the entire village full of innocents?”
Oh!!! They clearly won’t ask this kind of logical question when it comes to their favourite character. All their logics are applicable only to Konoha.
Well, I have one more example....
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This is Nagato’s flashback where he talked about how they met Jiraiya.
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The very first remark Nagato makes here is, “I couldn’t get past the fact that they were Konoha Ninjas”... 
And it’s totally understandable.... Because some random Konoha Ninjas actually killed his parents and hence Nagato has a prejudice towards them and he couldn’t trust Jiraiya easily. 
And very later, he lost Yahiko because of the betrayal from Hanzo and Danzo... (this limpdick!!).... Now Nagato totally hates Konoha and that’s why he destroyed it to get justice for his loss even though he knew Naruto was not in the Village. 
Why couldn’t Nagato understand that not all Konoha Ninjas are bad???
If Nagato could meet a person like Jiraiya from Konoha.... Why couldn’t he rationalize his thought that just because of few bad people, it’s pointless to blame the Entire Konoha for it????
If Nagato and Sasuke both wanted to direct their Hatred & Vengeance towards an Entire Village for the mistake done by 2 or 3 people..... Then how would the Villagers alone would take this UCM revelation where Obito and Uchiha Clan wanted to harm the Village and Sasuke (an Uchiha) being the accomplice to Obito????? Will the Villagers really separate each and every incident to say, “Just because Obito did wrong, it’s a crime to blame the entire clan.... Our Hokage was wrong and the Uchiha clan were right to Subjugate us and Sasuke somehow, magically has no connection with Obito”????
Won’t they show their Entire Hatred & Vengeance towards Uchiha Clan & Sasuke???
Even if the villagers could forgive the Kyuubi incident.... How could they forgive Sasuke for joining Akatsuki, an organization started by Obito, the Uchiha who was responsible for starting the World War which killed thousands and thousands of lives??? Added to that, Uchiha Clan indeed planned to perform Coup detat by subjugating the village!!!! Add Madara, another Uchiha into the mix who pulled this Infinite Tsukuyomi bullshit...
I seriously wonder, how could this revelation brings Justice to the Uchiha Clan or to Sasuke???
It’s precisely for this reason...
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Itachi asked Naruto to keep quiet about this matter... 
“Then make sure you keep it that way!!! At least that way, the Uchiha Name’s reputation can be preserved.”
Everything was very clear here.... And Here’s the Closure about Uchiha Clan Massacre Revelation.
Yes, By revealing this tragedy, Itachi’s name will be cleared.... But Danzo, that fucking Asshole will be seen as some Benevolent Man... I am damn sure, Itachi would gladly live 1000 miserable lives by eating ashes than making that piece of shit into a Hero. Plus, The Reputation of the Uchiha Clan will be unanimously thrown into the drain. 
Thanks to this Revelation!!!
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Even in Gaiden, A material written by Kishimoto, has this Uchiha Reputation. Because the Villagers don’t know anything about this Coup Detat and stuffs... Otherwise no one would treat this Girl or Sasuke with any respect.
It’s precisely for these reasons UCM cannot be revealed to the Villagers because it would only hurt back Sasuke in the worst way possible. He & Itachi had already suffered a lot because of the Selfish Ambitions of their Own Clan.
Sasuke had nothing to do with Kyuubi Incident...
Sasuke had nothing to do with Uchiha Clan’s Coup detat....
Sasuke had nothing to do with Obito or Madara’s Moon Plan...
Do they really want Sasuke to suffer so much for something he has nothing to do with in the first place, by opening this can of worms again????
I definitely don’t. 
My Point is, no matter what, Uchiha Clan contributed a lot for Konoha from the time the village was formed. People loved them and respected them. Instead of dirtying their name by revealing their wrong-doings after their eventual death, I want their respect to be preserved atleast. 
This Anti-Konoha/Sasuke stans’ version of ‘Uchiha Clan Massacre Justice’ would only bring more harm and pain to the Last Survivor which nobody wants to. 
Well, those Anti-Konoha/Sasuke stans can claim that Revealing this Tragedy would bring them justice. But if you ask them to provide panels & patterns that were previously established inside the Storytelling of Narutoverse (like I did above) which could support their Narrative.... You won’t be finding anything.... Because there is none and all you could find was some angry lengthy post with some big words like Oppression, Fascism, Racism, Genocide but without any panel evidence.
Talking and spouting some angry bull shit without providing any evidence is so easier, isn’t it????
I was feeling sort of lost after this revelation because what would Sasuke do now? No matter what he did he wouldn’t have anything, he wouldn’t have the village anymore
When I was binge-watching this series obsessively for the first time.... I pretty much knew this UCM is going to hurt Sasuke a lot.... I mean right after I finished watching the Part 1, 81st Episode. And When it was revealed.... I simply couldn’t handle it.... I took a week worth of break to get over it and then I started again. Such heart wrenching revelation it was!!!
But when you look at it carefully... Sasuke deep down knew that his clan was wrong (atleast a little bit) after the revelation by Obito and his entire vengeance & hatred was all about Itachi and his pain ... 
Otherwise why would he join the very person who helped Itachi slaughter his own clan??? Especially Sasuke vowed to kill him after his battle with Itachi???
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“Once I’m through with you... I will kill him (Obito) next...”
The thing is, if Sasuke was really trying to take revenge to bring justice to his Clan, then the very first person he should’ve killed is Obito. Because Obito himself agreed that, he wanted to rekindle the War and wanted to take revenge on Uchiha Clan.
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[[Surprisingly, those Sasuke stans would never question this behaviour of Sasuke... Like, “Why the hell Sasuke is lounging around with Obito, even though he admitted that he slaughtered Uchiha Clan for his own revenge unlike Itachi who had no option to?”.... 
Oh, they won’t.... because talking with Canon Logic only applies to Konoha.... But not for their fav character]] 
Apparently, his stans will never ask these kind of questions.... But Sasuke did.... Otherwise he wouldn’t have asked these...
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“Madara was behind the Kyuubi’s attack on Konoha 16 years ago... Sadly, he was stopped again, this time by the Fourth Hokage...” Itachi to Sasuke.
Itachi dropped this information to Sasuke because he hoped that Sasuke would kill him and bring justice to his Clan...
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So, Sasuke knew that Obito was the one who released Kyuubi and framed Uchiha... 
But the moment Obito started to talk in detail about Itachi’s sacrifice.... Sasuke just conveniently ignored these facts. Because by ignoring the truth it gives him more reasons to completely hate the Village by conveniently lying to himself that whatever he was doing was right. 
This “lying to oneself” is the very thing Itachi taught Sasuke & Kabuto after he came back from the Edo Tensei.
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“First... You should have acknowledged your real self... That way you wouldn’t have had to tell lies... Not even to yourself...”
This is a self-reflected thought about Itachi.... Back then he thought that he successfully stopped the war by massacring the clan, lying to Sasuke and joining Akatsuki.... He did all these to protect the village... He believed he was powerful enough and he could do it alone. 
But at the end of the day, Itachi’s actions drove Sasuke into a hate filled person who kidnapped Killer Bee... and that started the Kage Summit.... and in turn Sasuke’s actions officially started the Shinobi World War.... All the while Sasuke decided to destroy the Village. Itachi stopped a war and protected the village by lying to Sasuke.... And that very lie created another World War and a threat to the Village in the form of Sasuke. So, Itachi failed ultimately.... 
Similarly, Sasuke also knew that somewhere his clan went wrong... He knew that Obito released the Kyuubi which was the reason behind every misfortune that had happened to him later.... And he was completely aware that killing innocent people was also wrong... Because he was a person who couldn’t kill 1000 Ninjas for training purpose when Orochimaru asked him to.... He even got repulsed when Orochimaru was experimenting on people for fun.... Sasuke is just that kind of person.
It’s just that he simply couldn’t acknowledge it. Because if he accept the Truth about his own clan’s wrong doings, that will never make him hate Konoha entirely. But the true thing is that he couldn’t completely hate Konoha which is why he verified his resolve to destroy that Village many times... as I’ve explained in this post... [Link]
It’s very clear that Obito was making use of Sasuke’s hatred to his own benefit. And Sasuke couldn’t handle the reality which was shown by Obito and he couldn’t tolerate the pain Itachi went through to preserve the peace and he simply wanted to inflict the pain on Konoha for making his Beloved Brother to die suffering a lot by bearing the name of a Traitor. Sasuke was neither doing it for his clan nor for his parents. If he was doing it for his Clan or his dead parents, he must have Killed Obito and then tried to have his vengeance on Konoha.
You may slander me for saying this but that’s the truth. And these following panels are the evident for it. 
First of all, Sasuke never had any big attachment to his own Clan... He didn’t have any friends from his clan or any happy memories or anything. It was entirely about Itachi.... and his parents also played a very minimal role in his life.
Tell me, After the revelation, Did Sasuke ever thought about any fond memories he had with his Mom and Dad???? Yeah, You may’ve found them in 1 or 2 panels in the background. But he had Chapters and Chapters of Good Memories he shared with Itachi.
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Itachi says, “We’ll both be really busy from now on...”
To which Sasuke says, “That’s Okay.... Just as long as we can be together sometimes....”
If Sasuke was really doing this for his Clan, why did he only think about the happy memories he shared with Itachi???? 
Added to that,
There were only two times, Sasuke mentioned that he was doing this for his Clan and his Parents..... 
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The above one is from when he was in Madara Hideout.
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This one was from Under the Bridge. There is another panel in the same scene where he maniacally laugh about how he was going to kill every last person in Konoha and by doing that he will revive his clan... I didn’t add it because he really turned mad while saying it. 
And can I say..... THAT’S ALLL!!!!!?????
Whereas he mentioned Itachi’s life many times...
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“I have no intention of protecting the “peaceful” world that sacrificed him (Itachi).”
So he knew that his clan massacre brought the Peace.... And yet he wants to destroy it???
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“His life meant more to me than the village”
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“They are all laughing it up.... At the cost of Itachi’s life!”
Well... Why is he mentioning Itachi’s life rather than his parents’ or 100′s of clan members who were slaughtered????
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“The more I’m able to understand you.... the more I’m able to hate Konoha for the suffering they put you through... In fact, it’s becoming even stronger than it was before”
It’s totally funny that Sasuke is acknowledging the fact that, “It’s probably because you’re my older brother that you feel the need to put me on the right path...”.... So, Sasuke clearly knew that he is traversing on the wrong path....
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“He did it.... For these people.... For people that just labeled him a traitor....”
This line screams Sasuke was more worried about people slandering Itachi without knowing the price he paid for it.... rather than worrying about the justice for his clan.
Not only Sasuke.... Other people like Naruto and Kabuto, also acknowledge the same thing.... That Sasuke was doing all of this for Itachi.... 
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And finally this,
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“I was supposed to die!! You were supposed to kill me along with our parents”
Tell me, instead of asking, “Why did you kill our parents or why did you betray our clan?”.... Why is Sasuke asking the reason for letting him alive?... So, he did knew that his clan’s coup detat was wrong and that Sasuke should have died....
And this is the last....
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“He’s different from you!!!! You were perfect!!!”
How can Sasuke call Itachi as Perfect after massacring his own clan & killing his own parents????
In 5 instances, Sasuke talked about Itachi’s pain and sufferings.... Other characters like Kabuto and Naruto also acknowledges this fact.... Plus, Sasuke willingly joined Obito, the man who slaughtered his Clan and was responsible for his clan’s eventual downfall...... And Sasuke referenced his parents and his Clan just twice...... 
And do you really think Sasuke was doing all these for the justice for his Clan???? 
I’ll be blunt here, Sasuke was using his Clan’s name as the excuse but in reality he was doing this for Itachi..... 
Just like how Sasuke left Naruto alive in VoTE1 and convinced himself that he left him alive because he didn’t want to follow Itachi’s path.... 
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When in reality, Sasuke really couldn’t kill him. 
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In Short, Sasuke’s feelings were all about him being fuming inside and engulfed with Hatred and Pain whereas people in Konoha were laughing and enjoying the Peace at the cost of Itachi’s life. 
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Am not saying, Sasuke completely accepted that his clan was wrong.... But atleast he was not a fool enough to justify at any point that Uchiha clan was Right about organizing the Coup detat. And rather than for the sake of his own clan or his parents, he mostly wanted to take Revenge on Konoha for Itachi’s pain and sufferings.
This is very clear from all the above panels.
And after seeing Itachi’s memories, He clearly understood something was definitely wrong with his clan. Because, he saw Shisui and came to an understanding that...
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Itachi didn’t kill his own friend as he claimed.... 
Shisui committed suicide to protect the village as well as the UCHIHA’S NAME.... 
This shows that not only Itachi but there was another Uchiha who was also willing to give their life for the Village as well as for preserving the Clan’s name. And this is precisely why he went to the Hokages to know about Konoha.
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“The feelings of a person who, even after getting his name sullied and dying, continue to think about his Village... and wanted to protect it...”
And after meeting the Hokages, he was very clear who was wrong, he understood Itachi’s feelings and that’s why he stopped wearing his clan colours in the end. 
What was Itachi’s feelings, by the way????
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“Obsessing over worthless things like the Clan.... You lose sight of what’s truly important...”
Itachi always wanted to be the part of a whole rather than restraining himself to a Clan. And that’s why he was lashing out at his clan members to stop obsessing over worthless things like the clan. 
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“They could transcend the framework of clan and devote themselves to the village...”
And when he find that Itachi’s words and ideals were very similar to the Hokages.... Sasuke accepting Konoha is not something strange. 
He even used the same words of those Hokages in VoTE2 and acknowledges that he understood Itachi’s feelings....
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“Village is a Framework created to stop the slaughter of many clans and children....A Framework that was lead to peace.... Itachi was trying to sustain that peace all by himself... That’s what I came to understand....”
Since Sasuke realized the meaning behind the Creation of Konoha, the extent Itachi went so far to protect this Village, the wrong doings of his own Clan and his eventual acceptance of Itachi’s Will & Konoha, Sasuke decided to not wear his Clan Colours anymore.... 
That’s because every time Itachi talks about Uchiha Clan’s arrogance and their history, Sasuke was there and listened to him!!! 
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“The Clan!! The Clan!!.... You all fail to measure your own capacity.... And to see the depth of my capacity... And because of that you lie beaten here..... 
You hold onto the organization, your clan, your name.... These things limit us and our capacities.... These things deserve to be shunned... It is foolish to fear what we’ve yet to see and know!!”
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“Of my capacity.... I’ve lost all hope for this pathetic clan...”
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“Uchiha is just a name, it just refers to our roots and clan.... It doesn’t mean anything by itself...“
Just like every other characters in Narutoverse, Kabuto was also feeling jealous about Itachi’s belonging to the Uchiha Clan... But Itachi immediately shuts him off by saying, “We are not that special or anything that you imagine us to be.... It’s after all a name and we are just a clan...”
This is called Being Humble and Modest despite having enormous power. This is what Itachi always wanted and expected from his Clan Members... But Instead of being Humble, they got Arrogant because they thought they are better than everyone because of their Superior powers and ended up getting destroyed ultimately. 
You might have noticed Sasuke, for the most part of the series, took pride in pronouncing his Clan’s name before Lee, Orochimaru and Naruto... even though it’s a burden and he had to work hard to keep that Name. But in the end, he just became humble by keeping his Clan’s name in his Memory, a symbolic representation of removing that Burden that comes with his Clan’s name and truly became a part of the Whole. Just like how Itachi had always wanted to be. 
Konoha is a village which is Good for the most part and it has it’s darker, rotten and ugly side in the name of ROOT. And the problems inside the Village is something that exists in every village. 
The Author’s intention is to show Konoha with some realistic flaws pertaining to the Ninja World.... And the Characters inside the world want to change it into an even Better Place to live even though they suffered a lot just like Naruto and Kakashi... 
People actually ignored, feared and discriminated Naruto for a reason.... Naruto had every reason to throw his hatred at them.... And those Villagers had every reason to be afraid of Naruto.... But Naruto instead of lashing out at the Villagers, he remained patient.... He found people who can love him.... Slowly and Steadily, Naruto showed that he is capable, harmless and made all the villagers to acknowledge him... 
Similarly, Kakashi’s father was slandered for prioritizing his comrades rather than blindly following the rules. That made his father to commit suicide. Instead of Kakashi going crazy on the villagers, he endured, remained patient, he became a sensei and passed on his Father’s Ideals, that is... TO PRIORITIZE THE COMRADES.... to the Next Generation (Team 7) and he became an Hokage. 
But contrary to Naruto and Kakashi.... Uchiha Clan was praised and celebrated unanimously by every villagers... They were given the Law Enforcement Position which is a Superior Shinobi position the village could offer... Due to the Kyuubi Incident, Uchiha Clan was marginalized by the Government.... Not the Villagers. But unlike Naruto and Kakashi, Uchiha Clan.....Instead of being patient and then find the culprit behind the Kyuubi incident... and show the Government that they have no ill-will...  They let the People’s Reverence get into their head, they thought they were better than everyone, went arrogant and decided to subjugate everyone with their superior powers.
If Naruto, a single person could fight all the Hatred thrown at him by 1000′s of Villagers, by himself.... Why not Uchiha Clan, a group of few 100 people, who was just hated by 3 officials???? If Naruto can do it alone then Uchiha Clan could’ve easily did something... But they didn’t.... [[This doesn’t mean I am supporting those Higher-Ups... Especially Danzo... Because he was such an opportunistic Bastard]]
If Only Uchiha Clan were little bit humble and faced this Hatred with some patience, they would’ve remained true to their Name, that is, The Prestigious Clan of Konoha. They might have produced a best Hokage in the form of Itachi or Sasuke. Instead they tried to lash out their Arrogance towards the people and ended up getting destroyed.
This series is not justifying the Massacre in any way.
It’s only pointing out the futility of the Prestigious Uchiha Clan’s Arrogant, Vengeful and Selfish ambition which led them to their own destruction... If only they had a little bit of patience... Sasuke would’ve had a happy childhood in Konoha just like he was in his Flashbacks. 
Instead of being Arrogant, Selfish and full of Hatred.... Try to be Humble, Understanding, Forgiving and face Hatred with Love... This is the message, this series tells us.
So, to finish off this post....
Konoha people might or might not know about the mastermind behind Kyuubi Incident. But Revealing the UCM will definitely won’t end well for the Reputation of Uchiha Clan... 
It would only hurt Sasuke in the worst way possible... Especially he has nothing to do with any of his Clan Member’s mistakes. 
At the end of the day, the Survivor of the Clan has the only right to decide what to do.... Itachi conveyed his wish to Naruto.... If Sasuke really wanted this to be revealed, he would’ve asked Naruto or Kakashi... 
From the beginning, Sasuke never had any attachment to his Clan... His entire world revolved around Itachi and his wish to destroy Konoha was mostly for the pain his Brother was forced to suffer...  All the while, Sasuke was really fighting his feelings to destroy Konoha in many places.
And when the Same brother, even after his death wanted to protect the Village that hurt him a lot.... Sasuke did the right thing to make an effort to understand his brother’s feelings. 
He finally understood Itachi’s feelings and stopped wearing his clan colours.
To me, Sasuke is the truest Shinobi than Naruto ever was.... by transcending the framework of a clan... The shinobi who understood the true meaning behind Konoha was an Uchiha... 
And Can I say Sasuke is more of an Hokage than Naruto in this aspect??? Just like how every other Hokages stopped wearing their Clan Colours while Naruto was seen wearing it.
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Grief
Chapter two: Rebellion
Din Djarin x Reader x Cassian Andor
Series Summary: Raised on Mandalore, born into a bloodline of warriors, no one ever expected for the daughter of a Clan leader to go rogue. Leaving the life of security and making the journey to fight in the war against the empire meant many things... giving up the way of the Mandalore, and giving up a solid future. A future that involves an arranged marriage to a foundling from another clan.
Chapter warnings: some brief angst, this ones pretty mellow ngl
Words: 3.3k
A/n: i was not expecting such a good response from the first chapter but bruh you guys are amazing- anyway here's part two of my brain's misery
Part 2/?
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The trip from Mandalore to the planet of Dantooine was long, and still ongoing. We all took turns, watching to see if we were any closer. After each jump from hyperspace, the transport would stop at a space refueling tank, before slowly going onward toward the destination. We must have been traveling several systems across the galaxy. We had a few laughs, mainly while watching Gander try and steal Shyloh's food from his knapsack while he was sleeping. Most of the other time we all just sat in silence, up until this point.
"What do you think we're all going to do once we get to the rebel base?" Merc raised his voice slightly, barely capturing our attentions as we had all been dozing off, and Shyloh was taking watch at the view point.
"What do you mean?" I had asked, not quite sure of what he was getting at. I sat up straighter against the wall, showing my interest in the newfound conversation.
"What branch do you think you'll end up in?" He was in a daze as he spoke, almost unsure of his intentions of bringing it up. His dark eyes were nearly emotionless under his furrowed brow.
"I hadn't really thought about it. I would say maybe something like mechanics," I said, thinking of the best possible use of my talents. I'm sure there's plenty of mechanical help already assisting the rebels, but with the galactic empire growing it's forces by the day, they needed all the help they could get.
"What about flying?" Shyloh perked up from his seat at the window.
"What about it?" I asked, curious as to why he suddenly thought of the new topic.
"You could do it of you wanted to. Be a pilot, I mean. You have the skills," He told me, but I scoffed. He wasn't in any way shape or form was making an ounce of sense at all.
"Speeder control races are a bit different from piloting fighters against the imperial troops don't you think?" I laughed at the idea, but he rolled his eyes, persistent with his opinion.
"It's less different than you think it is. Also mind you, I never saw you lose a race," He objected, but I wasn't having any of it.
"That's because when I raced, my own credits were on the line," I joked, seeing what he would try and come up with next, only to be met with a cold hard stare, before an answer that would shake me to my core.
"Well, now the freedom of the galaxy is on the line."
My smile dropped from my face and I turned to face the other two, who were looking back at me. They didn't expect that answer either. Shyloh was well known to be a boy of few words, and only really spoke to his friends and family. He was a founding just like the rest of them, but he had been with ths clan longer, due to having been saved from a war infested home as a baby.
He could sometimes be very wise, even if he didn't think he was being so. We weren't sure what it was, but he had this sort of presense that was so powerful. We knew when he would walk in a room, or walk out of it. It's like the air would change. Much like it changed now, with his words rendering us all speechless.
The silence was uncomfortable, and I was the one who left it unresloved, so I spoke up in favor of my crewmates to not keep quiet any longer.
"Perhaps I shall see where I am needed first."
"Perhaps you shouldn't be so afraid to explore an option you would excel in," He again rendered me speechless, and I did not have anything else to say this time. I was young, but my mind was not. I could comprehend thoughts the same way that an adult could. I could handle things just as well and if not better than some, too. He was right. I was simply afraid.
"I think we're finally here," Shyloh said, turning back to look out of the view port again.
"Its about time," Gander stood up, slinging his knapsack over his shoulder and standing at the transport door waiting for it to slide up.
We all followed suit, but Shyloh stopped us and held up a warning finger to stay still.
"There's manding droids, we gotta sneak off carefully. They don't look like bulk but they could be armed," He suggested. We were not yet at the rebel base, meaning these were probably droids of the land, and belonged to whoever oversees the exports on this planet.
When the panel opened, we were all careful to first peek out of the transport. This planet was nothing at all like Mandalore, which was dry and hot. This planet was lush with plants. And the air was slightly humid. It was a very welcome contrast from where I spent most of my life.
We all sneakily bolted out of the transport, ducking down behind one of the cargo units placed outside. We saw an opening in what looked like some sort of forrest patch.
There was a chill in the air on this planet, even in the middle of the day. Mandalore only ever got colder at night, when the sun was down and the moons were shining.
"That was close." Merc mumbled as we began to turn around and head into the grasslands, trying to find the rebel base.
We made sure no one was behind us, and were careful to check if any droids had caught sight of us.
We all went to turn around, but as soon as I did, I collided with someone's chest, rather hard might I add, sending me to the ground on my bottom. I didn't even collide that hard with the person, it was just the shock that sent me backwards.
"Need a hand?" I looked up to see a man, a sly smirk on his face as he held his hand out towards me. I took it without question, heaving myself up from the grassy, and somewhat muddy ground beneath me.
"You must be our contact," Merc smiled, and the man nodded, turning and begining to lead us to a speader that was hovering nearby behind a large set of trees.
"We must be careful not to use names outside of the base. I would be more than happy to formally introduce myself once we reach our final destination," He chuckled. It was only now that I realized he had an accent, a thick one. Probably left over from his native tongue that spilled out his mouth when he spoke galactic basic.
I know that sometimes my accent slips in when i speak. I never had to worry about using Mando'a around my fellow crewmates. They were foundlings, and hadn't been raised to speak it. Shyloh was, but he prefered to use galactic basic anyways because he had forgotten so much of it.
We all boarded the speader, Gander and I sitting on the back, our legs hanging off as we held onto the side bars.
"This might be a bumpy ride for you two," The man said, looking at both of us before giving me a wink. I scrunched my face up, not sure how else to react to it. The man was definitely on the younger side, but I wasn't sure how he could possibly see an interest in me.
Maybe he did and I just didn't want him to. Maybe I was still hinged to the idea that I would go back to Mandalore someday and marry my betrothed. I was so young, and hadn't the slightest idea of what feelings I could possibly be harboring, if any at all.
I couldn't deny I found him appealing. Anyone would, at least any human with eyes that is.
His hair was dark, and so were his eyes. He had a bit of stubble along his jaw and above his lip. He was somewhat scruffy looking, but in a good way.
As the speeder went through the forresty stretch of pathway, I kept turning around to catch a glimpse of him. Each time I did I had to look away fast because Gander would give me weird stares.
I would play it off like I was simply taking in the view of the green planet around me, and he wouldn't seem to notice.
After a while, with quite a few twists and turns, and Gander and I nearly falling off the speeder twice, we arrived to our destination.
We all hopped out of the transport, following the man into a giant cargo port. As soon as I looked to my left I could see an X-wing fighter in all it's glory. I had never seen a real one before, just heard stories and viewed holograms.
"Alright. We have about twelve other recruits arriving on this base today, so you will all be attending orientation this evening. As for right now, you look beat, and should rest. PX-74 will assign you to your bunks," He said, gesturing to the droid before beginning to walk away with a nod, but I stopped him before he could take a step.
"Wait a minute... I believe I recall something about a formal introduction," I crossed my arms over my chest and shifted my weight, trying to give off the look of having as much confidence as I could muster. I was putting on a facade, possibly to make me seem more mature. I didn't know the real reason.
He smirked, raising an eyebrow as he scanned me up and down with his dark eyes.
"Cassian Andor," He smiled, then looking right back at me with questioning eyes. "And how about you... you got a name?"
"Y/n from clan Maldrix," I said, my confidence wavering a little when he looked at me the way that he did.
"She's a Mandalorian," Shyloh perked up, and I sent him a warning glare.
"Yeah, sixth generation," Merc added, his cocky smile pasted on his face for all to see and be annoyed by.
"A mandalorian? I've heard the stories but I haven't ever met one. Are you-?"
"I'm not," I cut him off before this got twisted into one big lie. "My mother and father are."
"Doesn't that make you one too?" Cassian furrowed his brow but his tone was somewhat joking and humorous.
"No, it does not," I wasn't harsh with the way my voice came out, but I was firm. Though I wasn't one of them, the mandalorians and all they stood for were very important to me.
"Mandalorian is not a race, it's a creed. Some of the best Mandalorians I ever had the pleasure of knowing didn't even have a bloodline from Mandalore. They were foundlings, like these three," I explained, laying out the facts so that there was no longer any confusion lingering, but now there was a tension that was thicker than the trees on this planet.
"Even still, she can fight just as good as any soldier taken the creed," Merc jumped in, trying to clear the air, and thankfully, it seemed to be working.
"She flies even better," Shyloh mentioned, and I swore I could kill him. He was just so pushy sometimes, even with his massive sense of wisdom.
"You fly?" This peaked Andor's interest, and immediately he seemed more engaged towards me.
"I'm not as good as they say I am," I admitted, but he shook his head.
"No, really... if you can fly we could really use you. We're putting together a team for an air raid that's set to happen about one month's time from now," He came up closer to me and stared me in the eye.
"I'm just a kid, I might really let you down," I joked, trying not to get too caught up in his eye contact. His eyes were much darker when you could see them closely.
"I tell you what, I can arrange for you to have time in the flight simulator after orientation. If we feel you would be an asset, we can add you to the strike team," He said, nodding along to his words. I understood that they might need backup, and if push came to shove, I could maneuver faster than any pilot back on Mandalore. I never lost a race, nor did I ever lose a bet.
"Okay."
I could tell I was blushing from the extra attention I was receiving. I wasn't so sure what about me was so enticing that I deserved it.
"I have to go now to pick up the other recruits from a drop station. I leave you in the capable hands of PX-74," He said, returning to his speeder and letting us be lead off into the base.
"There are only so many open bunks left. Two of you will share one, and the other two will be placed with bunk mates." The metalized voice of the PX unit was strong in our ears, and we all followed after him as we ventured into the long hallway at the end of the cargo port.
The droid stopped at a door about midway through the hall and opened it using the side panel on the wall, revealing a young man that seemed almost younger than me even.
"One of you will be staying here. Which will it be?" The droid asked, turning towards our small group.
"I'll take this one," Shyloh said, stepping forward into the bunk to meet his new roomate.
The boy looked a bit frightened at first, but because of Shyloh's powerful yet calming energy, he seemed to relax almost immediately.
He turned and smiled back at us, waving before the IG unit closed the door and kept us going.
He walked us down passed several more doors, maybe more than twenty, before he stopped at another one and opened it up.
Inside sat a young woman, her legs crossed as she sharpened a knife with a smirk on her face. She looked up and made eye contact with me first.
"I wondered how long it would be before they got someone else in here." Her voice was somewhat low and raspy, but it was kind of soothing in a way.
"One of you-" the IG unit began again, but I stopped him, stepping into the bunk with the girl inside.
"I'll take this one." I smiled at the two boys left before the door closed on my new bunk.
I moved to set my knapsack down on the bottom bunk, but my roomate stopped me.
"Bottom one's mine." She said, looking up from her sharpened knife again to inform me of the sleeping arrangements.
I instead threw my knapsack on the top bunk, trying to climb up into it, but failing miserably.
"You need a hand?" She chuckled, watching my lame attempts to swing my leg up high enough. The fact that there was no ladder should have tipped me off.
"I'll be okay, thanks," I laughed, keeping my attitude loose and positive, though this bunk bed was already causing unnecessary problems for me.
"If you say so," She chuckled again, seeing as I finally managed to haul myself up and onto the bed.
"First try," I joked, and she laughed like it was the funniest thing in the world. I think that we would be getting along, because no one ever laughed at my lame sense of humor.
I laid back, resting my arms behind my head and staring blankly at the ceiling.
"So, where are you from?" She piped up, not taking her eyes away from her previous knife. That thing must mean a lot to her.
"Mandalore," I let out, trying to get comfortable on this lumpy pad that was under my head.
"Actually?" She seemed surprised. Everyone had heard of the planet that the mandalorian tribes had resided upon, and usually they understood what kind of people the place would breed.
"Yeah. Left just in time. Tomorrow's my birthday," I shut my eyes continuing our converastion with one less sense. It didn't matter, though. I was still fully awake.
"What would you have had to do?" She pondered curiously, finally looking up towards the bunk in interest.
"Well, to put it short... tomorrow I would have had to swear my freedom away. No living being would ever be able to see my face again till the day I died," I laid it out plain and simple, and she seemed to understand.
"How old are you?" She asked, her trail of questions getting longer and longer.
"Sixteen tomorrow," I answered, feeling a bit more tired now that my eyes had been closed, and the lights in the bunk rooms were dim.
"You're just a baby," She scoffed. "How could they possibly expect you to make that choice so young?"
"It's just the way it's always been there. This is the way," I remembered. Those words used to be said to me nearly ten times a day, and now they only rung in my mind as a memory.
"That's insane. The people on your planet must be crazy to take an oath like that," She muttered.
"You would think so... the strangest part about it is that there are kids brought back as foundlings that take the creed without hesitation. They don't even belong to a bloodline, they just feel as though they have right to the creed as much as anyone else," I silently remembered Din for a moment. He was the bravest, strongest, most loyal Mandalorian I'd ever known. A foundling.
I began to get bitter at the thought of leaving him. He could have made things better for me if I had just given him a chance. I had to let my head get in the way. I needed to think about something else.
"What about you, huh? Where you from?" I asked, changing the subject as quickly and painlessly as possible.
"Alderaan. Born and raised," She said, getting up from the floor and dropping herself on the bottom bunk.
"You been a lot of places since then?" I asked, but she first let out a heavy sigh before speaking.
"Only too many to count," She said, settling herself on the bunk like I had done.
"Must be nice..." I muttered. Finally able to relax on this pathetic excuse for a bed pad. Of course I couldn't complain. I'm the one who chose the life of the rebellion, including their miserable bedding. "I've never been anywhere outside my home planet until now. I haven't even seen the entirety of my own planet."
"Most new comers are the same. They haven't been anywhere else, then they come here and its like we're moving non stop. Base to base, on just about every planet in this galaxy," She reassured. At least now I didn't feel so out of place.
"How long have you been stationed here?" I asked, unsure of how long I would get to adjust to things.
"A few months. It's likely we'll have to leave soon. There's rumors of the imperials knowing our location," She answered, rolling her eyes, thought I couldn't see from the top bunk.
"You're kidding," I scoffed. After just getting here, I might have to up and leave again. I'll have to learn to accept this new life, it's what I wanted.
"I wish I was, kid," She added.
"I have a name," I retorted back, not a fan of the nickname 'kid'. I waited for her to ask me what it was, but when she stayed silent I sighed. "It's Y/n."
"I'll call you what you are... now get some rest, they'll come pounding on that door in a few hours for orientation," She said, as though she somehow had grown to a habit of mothering me only five minutes after we met. I dropped the conversation and drifted off to sleep, my eyes were too heavy to keep open anymore anyway.
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A/n: okay so like i wrote this a while before everything with gina carano happened and i do not in any way condone her whatsoever so let's pretend she's been recast already...
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