#Good Omens viewpoints | Explore Tumblr Posts and Blogs

reloha · 8 months

Text

Jacobi and McKellen as grand marshals of New York City's 2015 pride march.

All Good Omens (show) fans will know Derek Jacobi as the Metatron. His brief role on Doctor Who is also getting a lot of mention in recent posts, but I'm not going to talk about any of that.

Like his Vicious co-star Ian McKellen, Jacobi has had a long and illustrious career in theatre, television, and film. McKellen and Jacobi met when they were at Cambridge.

I'm not a huge fan of the Daily Mail, but this article, an interview with the two actors, is quite interesting. I'll just quote this part:

Jacobi says he came out to his mother when he was at university. ‘She said, “All young men, go through this phase, don’t worry.” I remember saying, “Don’t tell Dad.”’ He doesn’t know to this day if she did. ‘I think she did, but I don’t know. But they were wonderful, my parents, not much was said but they kind of knew, they got it.’

McKellen hasn’t heard his friend talk of this before. ‘That’s the first time I’ve heard that,’ he says, genuinely moved. ‘I never came out to my family. Biggest regret of my life.’ It turns out he didn’t even come out to Derek at university, even though it’s always been reported that he had something of a crush on him.

‘Yes, I did fancy Derek, but I didn’t act on it, God, no. It was illegal, remember. I do get on my high horse about it, because it was so difficult. There were no gay clubs you could go to. No gay bars, no gay newspaper, nothing. What there was was a bit sleazy, I suspect. One of the reasons I became an actor was that you could meet gay people. Even then everything was difficult. When you went to America they asked, “Are you now, or have you ever been, homosexual?” I lied on the form. It was a different world.’

I want to talk about Vicious for a bit, the ITV britcom in which Derek Jacobi and Ian McKellen play an aging gay couple, (respectively) a homemaker, Stuart Bixby, and an actor, Freddie Thornhill, for fourteen episodes.

Freddie (McKellen) tells Stuart (Jacobi) about a part he's hoping to get.

I had to add these for the Broadchurch reference.

It's a law that British actors of a certain age play this part.

I couldn't find one with Michael Sheen and the skull, but here he is in the role.

McKellen did the part again at 81 in an age-blind production.

Jacobi's big breakout was the titular role in I, Claudius on the BBC in 1976.

In the '90s, Jacobi played amateur sleuth and 12th century monk, Brother Cadfael on the ITV series.

I had watched some of Vicious before, but, spurred on by Jacobi's reappearance on Good Omens, looked for it again and watched both seasons a couple of weeks ago. Because I love a good fancast and Jacobi and Sheen (at least as Aziraphale) remind me a little of each other, I couldn't help but think that Jacobi and McKellen in their youth could have played a version of Aziraphale and Crowley. (There have been a couple of posts noting this about Jacobi, and that he might have been up for the part if it had been done soon after the book came out.)

Jacobi, left, and McKellen, right (obviously).

I also think that Tennant and Sheen could have pulled off playing Freddie and Stuart in a flashback.

An even younger version of Freddie and Stuart does appear in the series, however, played by Luke Treadaway and Samuel Barnett.

Also good casting! They do a great job playing McKellen and Jacobi playing Freddie and Stuart.

Shoutout to this post by @ember-knights, that suggested Good Omens fans should check out Vicious for a glimpse of what life in the South Downs cottage might be. And also to other posts mentioning Vicious and Good Omens in the same breath, as well as comparing Sheen and Tennant to Jacobi and McKellen (which I probably reblogged but can't find right now).

Cast of Vicious: Frances de la Tour, Iwan Rheon, Philip Voss, Ian McKellen, Derek Jacobi, Marcia Warren (Wikipedia). (Yes, the upstairs neighbor (Rheon) does go on to play Ramsay Bolton on Game of Thrones. He's a sweetheart in this, though.)

Now, I don't think Crowley and Aziraphale are the same as Freddie and Stuart, by any means. Freddie and Stuart say quite cruel things to each other. The characters become deeper in the second season; it’s a little sweeter than the first. I enjoy the bitterness of the first season too, though. It is funny, and Good Omens fans may enjoy watching it if only to see Derek Jacobi (who plays the Metatron) in a comedy role and a role that's sympathetic, especially if they are not familiar with his large and impressive body of work.

I don't think Aziraphale and Crowley's life in the bookshop as a couple, not just a group of two, or life on the South Downs, would be exactly like this, but there are somehow some similarities that I don't even know how to begin to pinpoint or explicate.

Crowley and Aziraphale’s affection is always so palpable and that’s not always clear with Freddie and Stuart. Crowley and Aziraphale are so loving that, even when they're bickering, it's joyful, even when they're arguing, even when they're coming apart (temporarily) at the seams, their love is undeniable. I don’t even think their breakup was toxic; although they were desperate at that point and hurt each other badly, it wasn't what they wanted. Sometimes it's that way.

And, lest I'm putting you off Vicious here, the Ineffable Husbands are a high bar as love stories go, but you will get to see some love and affection between Freddie and Stuart too, and I'd really love to see these actors work together more. (I am happy with how the show ends up, by the way.)

Toodle-loo! Hope everything is tickety-boo with you.

#Good Omens spoilers #Good Omens #Good Omens viewpoints #Derek Jacobi #Ian McKellen #Vicious #Derek Jacobi appreciation post #***Good Omens #tickety boo

468 notes · View notes

love-me-love-my-weirdness · 2 months

Text

I have permission to beat up the next person who calls Aziraphale “naive” or “gullible”. I swear I can’t go five fix-it fics without seeing at least one “Aziraphale was so naive”.

He is not naive. He is traumatised and trapped in a situation where his abusers holds very real power over the lives of him, Crowley and everyone on the planet.

Wanting to believe the people who raised you are good especially when that’s what you’ve been told your entire life is not naive.

Going back to an abusive situation when it’s that or the universe ends and you never get to see the person you love again is not naive.

Aziraphale is not naive or gullible. He knows what’s going on and he is powerless to stop it but that doesn’t mean he isn’t going to try. That doesn’t excuse his actions or dismiss Crowley’s responses. It’s what makes Aziraphale so human. Because he’s so much more complex than people’s anti-Autism victim-blaming 2D stereotype.

#aziraphale #crowley x aziraphale #aziraphale x crowley #good omens viewpoints #good omens season 2 #good omens

28 notes · View notes

mirick-vn · 6 months

Text

Reasons why I need therapy:

I am mentally ill

The Tragic Gays™

779 notes · View notes

rebelcaptain4life · 6 months

Text

If you weren't Pro-Palestine already, I hope the fact that the US government is literally trying to censor people that don't agree with them opens your eyes

#if you have a solid footing in your stance you don't try and suppress dissent #because you know your facts and viewpoint will stand up to the scrutiny #only dictators who know they're in the wrong #and know that an educated population will no longer blindly follow their BS pull shit like this #free Palestine #live laugh love tiktok #from the land to the sea #palestine will be free #gaza #social justice #western imperialism #usa #good omens #loki #brokeback mountain #justice #genshin impact

381 notes · View notes

loz-tearsofahomo · 4 months

Text

Guess what piece of media we were talking about, level challenge (impossible)

#harry potter #jujutsu kaisen #bungou stray dogs #good omens #naruto #MORE #Lmaoo #anime #anime and manga #loz posts #skk #satosugu #grindledore #ineffable bureaucracy #soukoku #omniscient reader's viewpoint #orv #joongdok

182 notes · View notes

theyrebasicallycanonpoll · 1 year

Text

Crowley & Aziraphale (Good Omens) VS Yoo Joonghyuk & Kim Dokja (Omniscient Readers Viewpoint)

#they're basically canon #tournament poll #good omens #omniscient readers viewpoint #ineffable husbands #joongdok

411 notes · View notes

memorizingthedigitsofpi · 8 months

Text

using the word "angel" as a term of endearment actually took hold because enough people heard Crowley call Aziraphale that, and they wanted to show as much depth of emotion to their own lovers as Crowley had for his "angel"

#good omens #this is all the mental space i have to write this idea #but i think itd be a fun fic #love a story told from external viewpoints

169 notes · View notes

wildrbst · 2 months

Text

Pre-order Open

Deadline: 9/3 - 23/3 Merch will be shipped 1.5 month after pre-order International Shop Link Vietnam order form

Left-over will be sold on shopee afterwards Old merch left-over is currently available on shopee

Fandom: ORV, Good Omens, Disco Elysium, Dungeon Meshi

35 notes · View notes

relatableblorbopoll · 5 months

Text

Round 1 of preliminaries, group 6

The first two places get a place on the bracket

Little reminder: there will be 2 more rounds of preliminaries, the losing blorbos of this poll still have 2 chances of getting in the official bracket

propaganda under the cut

Jesper Fahey (Six of Crows)

No Propaganda

Crowley (Good Omens)

"He's gender. He's been in love with one guy for literally 6000 years and then royally fucks up his entire confession. He yells at his plants. He drapes himself over every fucking surface he sits on. He walks like *that*. He just fuckin makes sounds sometimes. He's me fr."

Dave Strider (Homestuck)

"everything that can be said about Dave's relatability will probably sound redundant, clichéd, or overdone if you are at all familiar with tumblrs sort of blorbo culture. this is exactly why he should be in this tournament.

stop me if you think that you've heard this one before: he hides his genuine emotions behind a persona, deflects sincerity with jokes, but also has a deep desire for validation and connection, so that his persona has many cracks where little bits of his true self slip through. deeply insecure, compares himself to others. a defeatist streak, avoids responsibility. does not wish to be troubled by The Horrors. he just wants to hang out and do his lil creative hobbies (making music and drawing comics). talks a lot to the point of being pretty awkward, rambling, and accidentally saying stuff he shouldnt.

all these things I think tend to resonate deeply with a lot of people, especially on Tumblr - that "person who is insecure and struggles with emotional openness so copes by making jokes" sort of trope, it's just like kin bait (affectionate). he also has a complicated relationship with gender which I know many find relatable (shout out to the "Dave homestuck was my trans awakening" homies) but whether it's about figuring out gender or sexuality or trauma or the apocalypse or anything else, Dave comes at it with an initial, learned, fear and reluctance that I think a lot of people have experienced, because it's very human and very much a part of many readers experiences (we live in a society). but he's always good, and likeable and that makes for a very important sort of relatable character. very comforting. even if he's a mess and he's an idiot you can believe he can get to something better, and you can watch him develop and grow.

also, I think he's extremely relatable because he never really knows what's going on in the comic either. I mean, that's gonna be relatable to most people Vis a vis homestuck. he's confused and he just wants to vibe and make his friends laugh. WHO AMONG US cannot relate?? I do not believe you if you say no.

I wrote too much and got way too weird about it. I'm sorry it's late I'd edit down but I really don't have the brain capacity.. which is very Dave core of me actually"

Junior (Total Drama Presents: The Ridonculous Race)

"i relate to him a lot because his whole character is being embarrassed of his dad who tries too hard to be cool, but still loves him anyways. that is literally me"

Kim Dokja (Omnicient Reader's Viewpoint)

"kim dokja. oh kim dokja. so, without going into spoilers too much, kim dokja is very much a character you are expected to relate to and it makes the novel DEVASTATING. here's just a few things about him: - he is obsessed with a particular piece of media, and finds comfort in it when real life doesn't give him any. he's constantly thinking about it and defending it and trying to recommend it to other people (even though no one else bothers reading it, because it is an objectively bad 3000-chapter webnovel). even beyond that one novel, he's been using fiction as an escape for just about his entire life, something that rings true for a lot of people, especially in the modern world. - he struggles with socializing with other people. the first chapter alone gave me so much second hand embarrassment. it's so real but god it's So bad. he has zero friends and has that sort of loneliness where you're miserable but you can't really bring yourself to feel anything but resigned to it. in general he is just very Resigned to his unfortunate life and can't fully understand or accept it when it finally does get better - he has a complicated relationship with his mother. it's the kind of relationship where the parent genuinely does love their child, but they fail to give them what they need & have to accept that they hurt their kid and that they cannot be the most important person in their life. it's certainly not a universal experience but those sorts of parent-child relationships are woefully common but scarcely acknowledged -the insecurity. god there is so much insecurity in that man. it's hard to even completely tell it's there at first, because it's so ingrained in how he thinks that you don't question it until you know more about his character and suddenly it's all too apparent. he cannot believe that he can be loved (or, if that he can be, that they certainly would not be able to love all of him, only what he chooses to show them), and is selfless but like. the literal meaning of the word, where he will throw away all of his being for the people he loves. in general there is a lot of sacrifice as a love language which like. while i'm not off around throwing myself in front of magic death beams for people or anything i sure would give up everything i could if it meant helping the people i love - ok enough of that. here's some funny things i can relate to. the guy meets his favorite fictional blorbo and instead of worshipping him instead he bullies him constantly and internally complains about how unbearable he is both in the book and in real life. it's like a "i love my blorbo. i would not last 2 seconds in a room with him." You know. he gets so caught up in his fanon characterizations and biases about characters that he completely mischaracterizes them like constantly. he literally kills a guy half because he was his least favorite character. -this is a poll about blorbo relatability. therefore i must mention that kim dokja too related to his blorbo (or at least attempted to) and what is more relatable than that. anyways. kdj made me realize far too much about myself and is by far the most i have ever related to a character (and i Hate it). and tumblr would definitely relate to him too so :thumbs-up:"

"(SPOILERS) He is literally all of us. Reader. Just some guy. And then insane tragic backstory. But he’s also just some guy. He’s special and also just a guy. He’s also god. He can be shipped w anyone. He has versatility and interests and motivations. He also never tells anyone anything ever. He is so me."

"He reads a trashy, long-ass novel as a coping mechanism and doesn't think he's capable of being loved. Bro dissociates when he's emoting too much."

"I'm a homestuck fan, a Dave Strider fan even Never heard of Omnicient Reader's before Voted for the kim fellow because judging by the propaganda it looks like he himself would be a homestuck reader therefore making him more relatable than the homsetuck character himself"

"This guy’s been my companion since I was 11, I’ve grown up with Omniscient Reader’s Viewpoint and I think that’s pretty funny since he grew up with Ways of Survival (the 3149 chapter novel) and therefore I’m straight up mirroring him. I, too, scare everyone off by being too enthusiastic whenever the webnovel is brought up! His insecurities are severe but I do see myself in some parts of him (which is worrying but whatever.) He is absolutely The Guy Ever. Utterly pathetic wet cat of a man. I love him. He represents the crazy fandom tumblrina in all of us."

Donutella (Tokidoki)

"she's made of donuts basically like me at this point"

#tumblr tournament #tumblr polls #character bracket #character tournament #preliminaries #jesper fahey #six of crows #crowley #good omens #dave strider #homestuck #junior total drama #total drama #the ridonculous race #kim dokja #omniscient reader's viewpoint #donutella #tokidoki

91 notes · View notes

black-and-white-showdown · 1 year

Text

#black and white showdown #good omens #good omens fandom #aziraphale #anthony j crowley #aziraphale and crowley #yoo joonghyuk #kim dokja #omniscient reader novel #i love them #oml i cant choose #ill be sad no matter who wins #omniscient reader webtoon #omniscient reader's viewpoint

248 notes · View notes

aziraphales-ineffable-bookshop · 3 days

Text

I obviously cannot keep my obsessions to myself, so I started talking about Good Omens during book club and one of the other people there goes "Oh, the redhead demon and the white-haired angel I keep seeing everywhere?"

I mean yes but-

#how do I explain good omens to someone?#I mean there's the themes and the idea of shades of grey and the rejection of the binary viewpoint #and the complex characters and the connection to the real world and the authors' opinions scattered throughout #and it's been such an important piece of media for so many people for so many different reasons #but also yes ok the redhead demon and the white-haired angel YOU ARE RIGHT #good omens #good omens 2 #aziraphale #crowley #ineffable spouses

20 notes · View notes

reloha · 4 months

Text

Screenshot: A YouTube comment from commenter d.bilgebaykan5186:

Crowley: Aggressively says something romantic Aziraphale: Romantically says something hurtful

Video by Alchemy featuring Queen: "Somebody to Love" Sting & Samuel Kim: "What Could Have Been"

youtube

#Good Omens #Ineffable Husbands #Aziracrow #Crowphale #Good Omens spoilers #Good Omens videos #Alchemy #Queen #Sting #Good Omens viewpoints #Youtube

76 notes · View notes

benreygenders · 9 months

Text

blessed by a curse

#good omens #good omens spoilers #IN THE TAGS KINDA? JIC #scribbles #they need eachother their lives and beings are so intrinsically intertwined but they Cant Be there for eachother #they are both SO so so stubborn in their beliefs and think that the best way through their situation is to convince the other to join them i #n their respective viewpoints #but it is FRUITLESS so they are in a constant tug of war between what they think is right and just #and they want to be there for eachother but that means completely different things for both of them #so they are together but at the same time they can never Truly come together until they get their shit together 👍#<- firm believer that they are BOTH WRONG AT THE END OF SEASON 2. THEY BOTH NEED TO CHANGE NOT JUST AZIRAPHALE

58 notes · View notes

thinkingfandoms · 6 months

Text

What fandoms am I in?

This is a more or less accurate list of the MAIN fandoms I'm in. This means that you'll see me write about whatever is on my mind anyway.

42 notes · View notes

semiramis-audron · 8 months

Text

When your team is fucking weirdos, hated by the fandoms, with half of them involved in gay drama and you're just trying to stay in your lane...

Aka my collection of problematic Metafaves

I thought about actually drawing them all, but i dont think i would ever manage...

Legend under the Cut (links to character pages provided, open at own risk for spoilers)

Enoch (Metatron) from El Shaddai Ascencion of the Metatron (both video game and tie in Mangas, the game is fucking underappreciated!)

Metatron from Dogma (he is sarcastic baby)

Metatron from Good Omens (TV Series) (innocent until proven guilty, the book one looked kinda like #15)

Metatron from Supernatural (unfortunately proven guilty, because they copied #9's homework)

Metatron from 7 Heavenly Virtues Anime ("Nanatsu no Bitoku" kinda NSFW, big tiddy anime )

Metatron from Shin Megami Tensei video game series (obligatory, cause first mayor video game appearance)

Metatron (Enoch, Sean Christian) from Devils and Realists Manga ( "Makai Ouji" sad little meow meow, reminder to always read job descriptions )

Metatron from Omniscient Readers Viewpoint Webnovel (I have not collected enough spoons to read all of it)

Metatron (Enoch) from His Dark Materials Novels (+TV) (If you think his ego is big, you should see his dick. He's thinking with it. )

Metatron from Dear Door Webtoon Manhwa (Yeah... I'm not gonna link this one. The story and art is amazing, but there is also so much gore and even more hardcore gay sex in like every single chapter. Google it and read it yourself, but... Dead Dove, do not eat - unless you're into that or are a fast scroller )

Metatron from Spawn Comic Series (She's so pretty, and the Spawn comics are just visually cool)

Metatron (one of several forms) from the Puzzle&Dragon Games (They are so pretty... acursed Gatcha games!)

Metatron from Angel Sanctuary (nostalgia, he did nothing wrong, baby with evil twin)

Metatron from Dating Game Miraclr (He has red hair and his Storyline is... just Metatron, just Metatron...)

Metatron ( Eternity (Earth-TRN781) ) from the Marvel Comics (Obligatory cause marvel is everywhere and I put the Spawn one)

Im aware there's some more in various other gatcha games but those usually dont have any story to them... and the other animes, im not yet familar with (or role is too minor)...

Collection is still open if anyone has some Metatron's to drop off...

Honorary Mention:

#metatron #good omens #supernatural #dogma 1999 #el shaddai: ascension of the metatron #Devils and realists #makai ouji #Dear Door #His Dark Materials #Miraclr #Angel Sanctuary #shin megami tensei #puzzle and dragons #7 Heavenly Virtues #nanatsu no bitoku #omniscient reader's viewpoint #mettaton #Undertale

24 notes · View notes

stainedglassthreads · 5 months

Text

If I had a nickel for every time the Metatron was initially presented as a kindly and benevolent figure, but as a war between angels, demons, and humans of apocalyptic proportions grew closer, revealed itself to have more sinister intentions, I'd have three nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it's happened three times.

#okay it's not THAT weird #if you want to have a story where heaven is corrupt but god themself does not explicitly appear as an antagonist #your choices are typically gonna be either the metatron. gabriel. or michael to show heaven's corruption depending on factors #i'm still just laughing at it having happened thrice #omniscient reader's viewpoint #good omens #supernatural #i went to refresh my memory on if the metatron also sucked in age of the grey #but aotg!metatron and aotg!angels in generally seem to be legitimately benevolent. good for them no fourth nickel

12 notes · View notes