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#tw: gender essentialism
me watching cis women on twitter say shit like “cuntboys and theyfabs are fascist oppressor scum tme mra. they can all go to hell with their faux masculinity. all of them are sensitive invaders of the trans community god i fucking hate them. i’m not transphobic tho btw i support trans women!!!” and then be congratulated for what progressive allies they are
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mamaangiwine · 9 months
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"Actually, women are naturally mystical because they're the embodiment of life and creation."
We're all the embodiment of life and creation you idiot, because we're all alive.
Just as we're all the embodiment of death because we're all gonna die.
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draconifay · 4 months
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Ngl as an abuse victim i hate this idea radfems and terfs spread that men are these "Vile, Disgusting, Ireedeemable Monsters by Blood whose chromosomes make them Evil by Default"
Aside from the ways they use it to justify their transphobia / transmisogyny, it's also an extremely flawed and harmful way of viewing things. Not only is it not fucking true because A.) Even if the patriarchy lets male abusers slide a lot of the time, there are plenty of non-shitty men out there and plenty of men who are willing to learn to be better, and B.) There are plenty of men who have been abuse VICTIMS and making this implication that they're doomed to be like their abusers is an incredibly cruel and anti-recovery thing to do. Not only are you hurting victims - you're also not helping stop abuse at all.
That, and: it leads to this implication that women, by contrast, are "Weak, Demure, Confused Little Creatures who can Do No Wrong" which, aside from how infantilizing that is, makes it seem like women are incapable of causing harm to others - which is ALSO not true. Everyone is capable of being incredibly cruel if they're not careful, and that includes women. And spreading this idea that women are "weak little creatures" not only harms abuse victims who were abused by women by delegitimizing their experiences- you're also giving a free pass to female abusers to not change and keep being shitty people. Not only that, but setting this precedent that they can do no wrong and that they will be protected just because they're women and their abuse is "not serious" (just look at the way authorities handle abuse cases where women are the perpetrators. So many times they don't take it seriously at all. It's vile.)
Abuse is a choice - it is not ingrained in someone's DNA. And making steps to improve yourself is also a choice. And, once again, everyone has the capacity to hurt others whether intentionally or unintentionally - which is why we have make the choice to be kind and make things better. You are not helping anyone by putting people into a box because of circumstances out of their control, and you are CERTAINLY not helping abuse victims nor are you helping women by saying "X gender are Monsters By Blood and need to all die"
(Don't even get me started on how their "evil by their DNA" rhetoric can so easily bleed into eugenics and this idea that certain people are 'undesirables' because of their DNA. I see so many ableist terfs who use disability to hurt others so it doesn't surprise me how their bigotry bleeds into ableism, too.)
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crazycatsiren · 11 months
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Literally, evil has no gender or sex.
Plenty of evil cis women have done seriously fucked up shit, and victims of their abuse deserve to be listened to, believed, and validated.
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uncanny-tranny · 11 months
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It's still fucked up to go "why can't people accept trans men as men when they act JUST LIKE cis men," and it (at best) is putting trans men in a shitty position wherein we have to prove ourselves suffieciently enough and at worst is actively just transphobia reliant on gender essentialism, which affects all trans people and then some.
#trans#transgender#lgbt#lgbtq#ftm#nonbinary#transphobia#transphobia tw#i've honestly found that people have held me to a much higher standard than cis men and i imagine that is multiplied tenfold among TPoC#the conversation about how we (general) make TPoC into a Threat is not mine to have. i have seen this discussion pop up multiple times#and the way gender is racialized absolutely affects PoC and TPoC#it runs me the wrong way precisely because of the gender essentialism and how much of that is rooted in transphobia 👍#like i feel as though people will read past the transphobia i'm talking about to go 'oh classic man whining' but...#...transphobia is transphobia even if it is 'gender-affirming' transphobia#my manhood isn't affirmed when you assume i'm a danger or that i am bound to be a fuck-up yknow?#because i *do* actually try my best to be good to the people around me and i *do* my best to protect others#and i am confident in the fact that the people around me irl will know that i don't fuck around when it comes to wanting to have their backs#like i have made it clear that i am willing to go apeshit if i'm told somebody is not safe#anyway i just want people to be mindful about how they talk about trans people and how playing into gender essentialism won't save us#i want people to know that they're still hurting trans people even if they think they're somehow punching up at us#talking about this because it's weirdly something i see so often when people even look at a trans man (only slightly hyperbolic)#people assume trans men have no idea what women and gender expansive people go through when it's like...??? HUH???#(also going off earlier my manhood doesn't even *need* to be rooted in protecting others and being a shield for me to be a man)
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frownyalfred · 4 months
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have you given any thought to how binary assigned gender works in the coralverse? (like, how would/would somebody be assigned m/f gender at birth) love your fic a lot!!!
I have! Since, going off previous asks I've done here, pre-presentation external genitalia is largely identical in pups, you'd have to go off other indications to assign gender.
Things like a blood test came to mind. Hormonal tests too, maybe. These could also both be done prior to birth hypothetically. Post birth, you could determine gender but likely not dynamic (until closer to the actual presentation).
Differences in gender would be present in similar ways like irl pre-teens, i.e., boys tend to be slightly larger, etc, and these differences would increase post-presentation. For example, a male pup who would later present alpha would look very similar to a male pup who would later present omega. A female pup who would later present alpha might be a little smaller than both of them? But these aren't hard and fast rules.
It's an interesting discussion of gender versus dynamic. Assigned gender as a pup matters far less in the a/b/o universe than dynamic post-presentation does. I wonder if that's largely because the only extreme differences between people are their dynamics.
Also, since being male or female in this universe doesn't impact whether one can reproduce, you have less of an emphasis on gender and more of an emphasis on dynamic. I'm still playing around with the idea of beta presentation and what that entails. I'm desperately trying not to write myself into a corner, as you can probably tell 😅
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entropy-sea-system · 4 months
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Ppl will really claim to be inclusive of trans and intersex people then turn around and call menstrual products 'feminine hygeine' and act like anyone who menstruates must be a cis perisex girl/woman
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kare--kare · 4 months
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Not that they care cuz terfs are predominantly racist white women anyway but I just find it fascinating how violently transphobic they are despite so many cultures across the world having a history and sometimes a sacredness that comes with being trans and gnc
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I'm almost done reading The Handmaid's Tale, and I don't like it. I've never read it before, I know it's a classic, and I was intrigued enough to keep reading.
But.... God, where do I start? Ranty jumble below the cut.
Especially after Roe V. Wade got overturned, a lot of people were like "Ooooh, it's just like Handmaid's Tale!"
I Googled if Atwood is transphobic, and got mixed results.
Within the interview I read, she said she doesn't predict the future, she just reads a lot of history, which put a lot of the book into context....
I think, as someone who does not know a lot of history and isn't interested in history, a lot of the events in THT seemed to be just:
[Atwood in 1985 voice] "Ooooh, what if slavery [against Black people] in the U.S. happened to white women?"
The no-reading rule. Only used for their bodies. Punished by mutilating their hands and feet. Public lynchings, to put it bluntly. De-gendered (?) for 'running away.' All dressing the same. Not allowed to use their own names. Being sent to 'the Colony.' Being traded among men if they misbehaved.
There are probably many more examples I'm forgetting.
But what really got it for me was the mention of the "Underground FemaleRoad." Really?? You're going to basically name-drop the historical way that enslaved people could actually escape and give them and their allies no credit for any of it???
I know, I know, practically the definition of cultural appropriation is "a white person does something that POC have been doing for a while and doesn't credit them/takes it as their own invention", but like, seriously?!
She wrote this whole book about "oh no what if Bad Things happened to White women 😢😢😢" and didn't mention anything about like, slavery or colonization or imperialism or anything like this that's happened to people of color in history, let alone the US Slave Trade.
Uhhhhh what else....
A lot of the ways the book talked about sexuality and purity culture and Christianity felt very like.... a mix of dramatic irony, regular irony, and almost post-ironic?
Like, especially with the prayers— you could tell that the Aunts did mean it sincerely, but I couldn't tell how much Offred herself did (or would have) actually disagreed with the Biblical teachings if they hadn't been used to like..... oppress her into subservience or whatever.
(Like when she talked about how her mom was pro-choice and how she, as a teenager, was 'humiliated' by how her mom would like, go to pro-abortion protests and be proud of people's right to choose. My personal reading of it was that, had they not been in this new overdramatic apocalypse, Offred would still feel like that and not be pro-choice at all.)
I think I need to cite my sources on all that; like, most of the time, with how THT talked about [patriarchy, reproductive rights, 'women's' bodies, abortion, Bible verses, the paranoia of getting caught doing something wrong, etc.] I couldn't tell if the narrator was saying something ironically, or if it was meant to be taken ironically, or if it was supposed to be post-ironic, and we all— including the narrator— were supposed to understand that it had started ironically and had now evolved past that to mean something totally opposite its original meaning....
(Though honestly, I don't think the book or Atwood is smart enough to be as post-ironic as you'd think for most of it.)
The fucking. "Pen Is Envy." I wanted to scream. 'Aunt Lydia told us that. They were right. I see the pen and do feel envy" are you serious right now? Really?! Really. It's all so fucking absurd. To take Freud's words, who was well known as a pseudoscientist, and use it as a 'male privilege' analogy in the sense where it's logical??? Get real.
The Marthas were mentioned briefly as having brown skin, and I assumed, given the almost no context of any of it, that they're women of color who are like, housemaid slaves and aren't seen as good for anything else?
I don't remember any mentions about what happened to the men of color, anywhere.
Overall? I hated the book. I spent most of it waiting for it to get interesting, or even to feel like Offred gave any fucks about like, courage or anything meaningful (beyond surviving a room without a light fixture or whatever the fuck). I didn't like her as a character, I didn't think she was a useful narrator, I think there were whole swatches of things that were left out and unexplained, and the book doesn't make sense. Full stop. It doesn't make sense. I felt a sense of unease while reading.
Overall I interpreted the book to be very...... pro-gender- and biological essentialism and white supremacy and eugenics in a "white people can be the only people" kind of way, and I think Atwood's perspective is NOT well-clarified enough to be strongly against any of that in a way that is meaningful, let alone action-oriented.
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neechees · 1 year
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One annoying & stupid thing (of the thousands of annoying stupid flaws) about "r*dical feminism" is that it treats all cis women as perpetual victims with no autonomy ever & that any choices they make are actually non-choices manipulated by men or whatever & that this has always been the case everywhere forever
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gxlden-angels · 8 months
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I've got a personal situation going on that I want to eventually talk about here, but in summary transphobes and fundamentalist christians hate women and can suck my spiritual dick about it
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mspec-defender · 1 year
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I have a really huge problem with people who say.
• All men are rapists
• All men are inherently violent
• All men are abusers
• Misandry is not only great but necessary
• Penises are inherently violent
Like how are you people not exhausted. How are you people not constantly angry all the time. Sorry but men exist. Deal with it.
And like I’m not saying there aren’t shitty men out there. There is plenty of them for me to talk about that I go on for hours. But like there’s also a lot of kind men. A lot of men who don’t treat women like trash. Who know what consent is.
Like how are you not upholding the patriarchy when you say that men are rapists and abusers. How will treating all men as abusers and rapists help us bring down the patriarchy. Because I don’t see how that’s possible. Give me an argument where this is logical and makes sense. Because at the end of the day it’s nothing more than bullshit gender essentialism that just holds us back from actually making any progress.
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cyarsk52-20 · 1 year
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No thanks. I don’t like TERFs so
Fuck her & fuck that series.
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alien-bear · 1 year
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i hope you understand that woman is a gender
If by gender you mean the biological sex, then yes.
If by gender you mean a set of patriarchal stereotypes and limiting expectations of men and women without taking into account their personality, then no. Unless you’re taliban or an American conservative, or a neo-conservative who self-identifies as woke while believing the exact same things as conservatives, just calling it gender ideology.
As I’m neither a taliban, nor an American conservative, nor a member of the gender ideology sect, I don’t believe in the latter. Only the former.
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sunnyh8smsi · 1 year
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Yeah, fuck you girlgerard.
The way I will literally have no sympathy for someone who misgernders someone 24/7.
It it seriously NONE of your business to speculate and make theories on Gerard's gender because he wears "woman's" clothing and has slightly higher voice. There are so many reasons for the latter that could be, like quitting smoking, and better vocal training. I'd even argue that his singing voice has gotten deeper, TBP is a half step down. Still even so, His gender is not your fucking plaything.
The way you play into gender essentialism disgusts me. You misinterpret his actions because for some fucking reason you want to push the narrative that Gerard is a trans woman.
You speak like he's your fucking fetish.
Even if they were a trans woman, trying to out them by analyzing and speculating on their art and expression is SICK.
Stop misgenderinng Gerard. Don't call people slurs. Point. Blank. Period.
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uncanny-tranny · 1 year
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I've seen some discussions pop up about gender dysphoria and how it's treated and pathologized, and in my opinion, gender dysphoria is a real feeling in that many trans people are dysphoric, but that medical professionals (notably cis ones) only hear what they want to hear. When it comes to gender dysphoria, I don't think it is inherent to being trans, but there is correlation between being trans and having gender dysphoria. I also think that dysphoria is exasperated when gender roles are so tied to sex and personhood - in my opinion, I think a lot of people's dysphoria may be eased in environments where perceived gender deviance is not seen as horrific or undesirable.
Basically:
1. Gender dysphoria is real and certain aspects of one's culture or environment can make those feelings more persistent. Gender dysphoria can look different between people, and that doesn't mean that one person's dysphoria is worse than another person's, or that one person's dysphoria is "right" while somebody else's is "wrong".
2. Gender dysphoria is tied to transness in a way that I think only pathologizes transness, and gender dysphoria shouldn't need to be proven in order to transition (socially, medically, any way)
3. Gender dysphoria can be a dynamic issue for anybody who has it, and a person's needs may change as their dysphoria changes or becomes lesser
4. Gender dysphoria is something a ton of people deal with - trans or no. Associating dysphoria with only trans people doesn't help the dysphoric people who aren't trans. Again, associating dysphoria only with trans people pathologizes transness itself because people will conflate the two.
5. For trans people with gender dysphoria, transition is a viable (and often necessary) form of treatment. It is not "enabling", it is helping trans people meet their needs. Transition is an option that is often successful, hence why forms of conversion therapy do not work. Transness is simply a natural variation of human identity.
I've been diagnosed with gender dysphoria/GID many times by many professionals, and I find that more often than not, these professionals are not equipped to deal with cases of gender dysphoria - especially when the person is also trans. This can be harmful because you essentially are meant to deal with those feelings alone.
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