#the fandom does want that

[so-bitya]

yknow the nice thing about the welcome to phantomive's ova was that us, or the lady assassin stand in for the audience, seemed to change her mind because of lizzy.

(...i know it was mostly sebastian threatening her the whole time but!)

like our evil mafia family puts lizzy down for being tricked by our fake identity and actually respecting us :(

and the camera keeps focusing on lizzy and how nice she is to throw a surprise birthday for her new friend and go to such lengths.

and in the end, our assassin lady gets one last look at Lizzy and Paula sleeping defenselessly and that's when she discards her knife. and its adorable that lizzy reformed an assassin by being such a sweetheart.

#ultimate self insert kuro fantasy: #lizzys your best friend and you become ciels mommy 🥰🥰🥰 #i mean #fair #the fandom does want that #kuro #kuroshitsuji season 2 #elizabeth midford

[mariaiscrafting]

yk what, man? I want justice for Nihachu. The dsmp fandom and mcyttwt treated her horribly, especially when she started distancing herself from W*lbur and accused the dsmp writing team (headed by him) of pushing her out. She's undergone so much abuse in her life and there is no way her relationship with W*lbur, whatever it was like, was healthy. She deserves so much love and support.

#im sorry nihachu for basically dropping you alongside the rest of the fandom #and of course these same sentime ts go to shelby #i just didnt want to repeat what basically every other post on here #has said #.txt #wilbur soot #nihachu #why does this have 1k notes #okay #1k+

[astraltrickster]

Periodic reminder that you are not immune to reactionary radicalization through fandom.

We all know the "jokes" about how old bronies either came out as queer or became fascists - except they're not really jokes, and a lot of the queer ones admit to having been in the pipeline before they came out (some in a way that implies they never totally got out of said pipeline and don't understand the gravity of it),

GamerGate was an entire right-wing reactionary movement that was - and this is not hyperbole - partially responsible for turning fascism into a "legitimate" position by the American Overton window, composed entirely of people who feared losing their fan spaces,

We've had terfs right here on tumblr dot com BRAGGING about how useful fandom is as a recruiting space,

TJLC was a big pipeline for acephobia on this hellsite in particular, when people argued that headcanoning Sherlock as ace was inherently homophobic because it was denying a TOTALLY GONNA BE CANON (while the creators were promising that it wasn't going to be canon) gay pairing, and puritanical, and just HAVING that headcanon was saying that people COULDN'T ship Johnlock, all in the interest of a "fake" sexuality and "pretending to be oppressed" and oh whoops there you went,

We see people who all but center their fandom activity and identities around figuring out which people in predominantly queer fandom spaces are SECRETLY PEDOPHILES AND GROOMERS, acting consciously or otherwise under the assumption that predominantly queer fandom spaces are just massively infested with them in a way that other spaces are not for SOME reason, who twist the definition of "pedophilia" in these spaces until it covers shipping a 17-year old fictional character with an 18-year old fictional character, or a 30-year old with a 45-year old, or including an autistic character in a ship, and drawing two 17-year old characters kissing constitutes "child porn", and who unironically say we should bring back the Hays Code and Censorship Is Good Actually And Our Problem Is We Don't Do It Enough and this often becomes a pipeline to "sex ed is child abuse; people shouldn't even know what sex is until they turn 18; you need my consent to wear certain outfits in public if I see them as sexually charged, and Pride SHOULD be an assimilationist sideshow for our corporate overlords family-friendly party with no sadness or anger or ESPECIALLY acknowledgement of sex allowed",

We've seen otherwise progressive people defend literal hate symbols in fanart when pushback against the above brand of reactionaries gets corrupted into zero-nuance "it's us vs. them so anything they don't like is Good",

Even outside of those examples some of the most vicious, unapologetic, blatant queerphobic abuse I've seen in recent years hasn't come from right-wingers but from LGBT+ people, dressing their deep, violent, seething hatred for queer people who aren't exactly like them in a thin veneer of progressive language, who have become so convinced that they're the main character of the fucking universe that they think writing or enjoying a queer story that doesn't resonate with them is more queerphobic than sending a queer person who writes or enjoys such a story countless rape and death threats and denying their identity,

We've seen these examples again and again and again, and we keep seeing it again and again and again, so I am once again on my knees BEGGING people to recognize that this is not Something That Happens To Other, BAD People, or Something That Happens To People In BAD Fandoms, or Something That Happens To People On The OTHER Side Of Perennial Drama; this is something that CAN happen to you.

These things are the result of the fact that fandom is, by nature, a place of heightened emotion and if you don't know what to look out for that is very exploitable; you need to know the methods people use to do this, simply Being In The Right Fandoms or Liking The Right Ships is not enough.

So, if you see someone trying to convince you that you have the ONLY valid approach to any specific character, or ship, or show, or whatever, that your ship is activism and your fanfics are praxis, and liking something else or liking the same thing differently is Only For Bad People, that is the single biggest red flag that YOU NEED TO RUN, THEY'RE TRYING TO SELL YOU SOMETHING THAT YOU DO NOT WANT

#fandom #radicalization by fandom #serious tag #keeping the property values down #<- aka my tag for 'i doubt this will circulate but i dont want people who will get involved in this shit on my blog' #though i wont be mad if it does circulate because people need to realize this

[bogos-bint3d]

Ok Undertale fandom, I've had a thought and I want YOUR opinions!

Would love to see people's explanations why!

#undertale #polls #undertale fandom #toriel #sans #papyrus #undyne #alphys #mettaton #asgore #flowey #utdr #chara dreemurr #utdr fandom #i was considered adding gaster but when i say man does NOT EXIST. but tell me if you want another poll including him #i was also considering adding blooky too but idk if they had as much focus? again do please tell if you want another poll including them #sans undertale #asgore dreemurr #flowey the flower #safe utdr #safeutdr #rhggghhhnhghhnn idk what else to tag this is it ig

[suntails]

knighted

#MOMENTS THAT MAKE ME EMOTIONAL. BAUL CALLING HIM BY NAME NOT CALLING HIM HUMAN. WEAK AT THE KNEES #i think ill only have time to draw these two pieces before i leave for the holidays so i want them to be a set. i think its fun #talked abt it on twt but artistically its SO fun that book 7 has the 'good guys' w the colors of the night. greens and purples and darks #and the 'bad guys' of the humans strike their queen down with a brilliant yellow light. the light IS the darkness is conceptually yummy #trying to lean into color choices and intentional comps lately. lilias piece reading L>R feels like the angle pushes down on him #here sebek faces with the eye's movement so its more positive. like hes climbing towards his beautiful bright future. ouughj #never before in fandom have i wanted to so clearly break down my own art choices like a historian but diasom does smth to my brain #twst #twisted wonderland #sebek zigvolt #baul zigvolt #ch 7 spoilers #suntails

[biblically-accurate-dca]

substitute

#my art #daycare attendant #dca fandom #moondrop #<- dca.. they're back in town ... #not tagging sun bc thats just their head :p #anywayyy hopefully this means something to someone. that's all i could ever wish for when it comes to my art #thats probably a bit too sentimental or something but sometimes it's hard to tell if the stuff you make is actually reaching people #or if you're just another person making content to satiate an insatiable crowd #is my art edible? is it a meal to you? is it a one time only thing? does it have any lasting effect on you? #is it just nutrients to sustain you? or is it something that will genuinely stick to you for at least longer than the first second? #i will stop talking now. you can eat my art as much as you'd like but can you at least savor it a little? compliment the chef a little bit? #for the ones who've read this far: this is actually for an AU i've been thinking about recently. i won't be sharing what it's about lol #but if you wanted some context for this... here you go. i'd like to think this has more meaning to it than just being an AU though #and maybe me not disclosing what the AU is will make you think about this post for a bit longer? it's a mystery now.... #aaaand i just noticed i forgot the bells on the ribbon on their arm. great. excellent. perfect. whatever

[graff-aganda]

Currently watching the funny psychic murder show

#[walks into the fandom of a television show from 2006] hey man does anyone want some doodles #excuse how they may look. first time drawing them and i just freeballed their child selves from memory #psych #psych usa #shawn spencer #burton guster #shawngus #graffart #sorry only doodles for now ive gotta CRUNCH !!!

[tangledinink]

the second attempt (it goes way better.)

(here's the silly, self-indulgent content i promised previously.)

[ gemini au ] [ prev ]

#gemini au #does the fandom already have a flawless donnie/oc pairing? ok yAH #SURE FINE... I WONT PRETEND.... IM AWARE... #but will this stop me??? NO #i know yall know im talkin about that gotdamn lizurd-- (/pos i love that lizard) #i just want donnie to have a friend he deserves a friend... #i just wanna properly introduce this silly catboy... and i decided im allowed... #anyway thats the whole comic can you believe i tried so fuckin hard? #rottmnt #rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles #rise of the tmnt #tmnt #tmnt 2018 #rottmnt separated au #rottmnt au #rottmnt disaster twins #rottmnt donnie #rottmnt donatello #rottmnt leo #rise donnie #rise disaster twins #rottmnt oc #rottmnt fanart #rottmnt comic #fidgetwing

[ohhgingersnaps]

I'm seeing some frustration over fandom creatives expressing anger or distress over people feeding their work into ChatGPT. I'm not responding to OP directly because I don't want to derail their post (their intent was to provide perspective on how these models actually work, and reduce undue panic, which is all coming from a good place!), but reassurances that the addition of our work will have a negligible impact on the model (which is true at this point) does kind of miss the point? Speaking for myself, my distress is less about the practical ramifications of feeding my fic into ChatGPT, and more about the principle of someone taking my work and deliberately adding it to the dataset.

Like, I fully realize that my work is a drop in the bucket of ChatGPT's several-billion-token training set! It will not make a demonstrable practical difference in the output of the model! That doesn't change the fact that I do not want my work to be part of the set of data that the ChatGPT devs use for training.

According to their FAQ, ChatGPT can and will use user input to train itself. The terms and conditions explicitly state that they save your chats to help train and improve their models. (You can opt-out, but sharing is the default.) So if you're feeding a fic into ChatGPT, unless you've explicitly opted out, you are handing it to the ChatGPT team and giving them permission to use it for training, whether or not that was your intent.

Now, will one fic make a demonstrable difference in the output of the model? No! But as the person who spent a year and a handful of months laboring over my fic, it makes a difference to me whether my fic, specifically, is being used in the dataset. If authors are allowed to have a problem with the ChatGPT devs for scraping millions of fics without permission, they're also allowed to have a problem with folks handing their individual fics over via the chat interface.

I do want to add that if you've done this to a fic, please don't take this as me being upset with you personally! Folks are still learning new information and puzzling out what "good" vs. "bad" use is, from an ethical standpoint. (Heck, my own perspective on this is deeply based on my own subjective feelings!) And we certainly shouldn't act like one person feeding a fic into ChatGPT has the same practical negative impact, on a broad societal scale, as a team using a web crawler to scrape five billion pieces of artwork for Stable Diffusion.

The point is that fundamentally, an ethical dataset should be obtained with the consent of those providing the data. Just because it's normalized for our data to be scraped without consent doesn't make it ethical, and this is why ChatGPT gives users the option to not share data— there is actually a standardized way (robots.txt) for website servers to set policies for how bots/crawlers can interact with them, for exactly this reason— and I think fandom artists and authors are well within their rights to express a desire for opting out to be the socially-respected default within the fandom community.

#maybe this is an ice cold take but i've been meaning to go off about datasets for a while so here we are i guess #i can respect what op's frustrations were and what they were trying to get at! but also i do not want my fic in chatgpt's dataset #regardless of whether it will make a practical difference #and again i don't think the people doing this are necessarily bad actors or having a huge negative social impact #chatgpt #chat gpt #ai #fandom #negative #(possibly! i'm trying not to be!! especially because this is very feelings-based and there are many things i am not considering) #the model may not demonstrably change because of your fic. but it does have your fic now and that does matter maybe idk

[pinkeoni]

It’s funny how audience members view Mike as their underdog-average-straight guy who is a total nerd but got an awesome girlfriend anyway when the character they are actually looking for is Dustin Henderson

#mike does not have the loser to boyfriend storyline that is dustin #mike is the tragic queer boy who forced himself and another girl into a straight relationship to fulfill expectations #but people dont want to acknowledge dustins inherent rizz because of ableism #straight guys in the fandom dont want to acknowledge that they could relate to a disabled character #miIeven is miserable together and duzie is happy and yet mike and el are the ones with the powerful relationship #stranger things #dustin henderson #mike wheeler #anti mileven #anti milkvan #byler #<- target audience

[howtokillavampire]

do you ever see fanart so tasty that you are then obligated to join the fandom and spend all of your waking hours learning the lore behind the characters, or is that not a universal experience?

#this is how i got into batman #i mean im more into the batboys #im in it for the robins #does it count if wolfy's jesus fanart made me want to read the bible from an objective pov #technically thats a fandom #i think my entire southern baptist extended family would collectively die if i referred to them as a fandom #anyways #pretty art pavolovs me into consuming new media #batboys #batfam #batman #dc robin #dcu #coldflash #fanart #drarry #mattimir #superbat #hannigram #jonmartin #johnlock #samifer #jaydick #damijon #timkon #timbern #im totally forgetting a bunch of my fav ships bc my brain is tiny and forgets things #so please add your own blorbos #thanks for coming to my ted talk #but why tf are you still reading the tags???

[darlingboydiaz]

I honestly thought people were making it up for buddie on 9-1-1, but no, that show is insanely queer from the beginning. so overall, yeah, that blond pretty boy firefighter needs to be dicked down by his best friend, end of discussion.

#buddie #911 #911 abc #911 fox #am i putting this on tumblr because i literally cannot post this anywhere else? #yes #i have no mutuals that watch 911 and i just slipped into this fandom #how does this show get more unhinged #i should start a live watch tweet thread #but i don't want to annoy anyone

[theotherbuckley]

Eddie: the universe does not scream

The universe: *tsunami almost takes both Chris and Buck* *lightning traps Eddie in the well where he thinks if Buck and Chris* *sniper shoots Eddie in front of Buck where he has to roll under a fire truck and lift Eddie to safety* *lightning temporarily kills Buck and throws Eddie off the ladder*

*Buck and Eddie still not realising they’re in love*

The universe:

The universe: what the fuck do you want me to do next

#the universe just shaking its head going you’ve survived a tsunami and 2 lightning strikes and being held hostage and— #what more do you want me to do??? how many times do I have to put you 2 in danger before you confess your love?? #Eddie: the universe does not scream #the universe: 👁️👄👁️ #911 abc #911 buddie #911 fandom #evan buck buckley #buck x eddie #buddie #Eddie Diaz

[lotus-pear]

regret

#literally excuse the shitty anatomy and cell shading i was thinking abt chuuyas reaction to what he'd done and i decided to make it skk #bc skk copium :') #the way i've hated dazai so fucking much but i still cried like a bitch when he died #he's not dead the bsd fandom has this phase like the elevator chapter where we're like ''dazai's not gonna make it he's done for!!'' #and then he comes back next chapter like surprise bitches yall thought i was dead lmao #this chapter fucking HURT for skk shippers tho like we rly lost this time around huh #deluding myself into thinking that chuuya used gravity manipulation to slow the bullet #bc we didn't see a bullet hole behind dazais head like when chuuya shot his shoulder even though the bullet to his skull was fired at close #the reason theres a wound is bc the compressed air that was still fired was enough to wound him #and the shock wave that followed caused him to pass out bc of the sudden tension to his head intermingled with the blood loss and poison #we also know dazai can control his heart rate at will so maybe he can drop his pulse to zero for like thirty secs #enough to make fyodor believe he's dead #in the event that all of this is untrue and dazai rly does die the way my entire being will go numb and cold and dead #knowing that fyodor will most likely use dazai's death as a weapon against chuuya effectively chaining him to his side #like bffr chuuya may dislike dazai but that's his partner his reflection the boy that makes him desperately want to be human #dazai is the embodiment of chuuyas humanity and once chuuya loses that tether to his human side he will snap and the facade will shatter #and we will truly see chuuya unhinged with nothing more keeping him bound to his mortal shell #this wasn't the skk reunion we wanted asigiri what the fuck :( #bungou stray dogs #bungo stray dogs #bsd #nakahara chuuya #chuuya nakahara #osamu dazai #dazai osamu #skk #soukoku #lotus draws

[muffinlance]

EDIT: The switchover from "Wani" to "Wanyi" has begun! Salvage should be switched; if anyone's re-reading, let me know if I missed any or accidentally borked any formatting during the change.

All crew names will be left the same, because they are Real People Names and I already had different personalities.

Thanks to everyone who helped me decide!

---Ye original post:---

Debating removing the various hat-tips to Embers in my fics due to attempting to re-read that story and finding it far less enamoring than when it was the second fic I'd ever read.

So anyways now soliciting potential new names for the Wani (Zuko's ship), Crewman Teruko, and Helmsman Kyo.

Update: Seems people (at least on this blog) associate those characters with my stories, not Embers. And the personalities are different, and they're legit real world names... So I'll likely leave those two alone.

Still tempted to change the Wani's name, though. My current top contender is Wanyi, which was @tuktukpodfics 's adorable change when they were podficcing Salvage, which I shall just quote here:

Wànyī (萬一): One in ten thousand, Perchance. I realize now that MuffinLance got the name Wani for Zuko’s ship from the author Vathara and it means "alligator" in another language. But when I was reading Salvage, I always imagined it was "wànyī," which literally means "one in ten thousand" and is used grammatically to mean "what if" or "just in case." I think a ship called "The Perchance" is perfect for a boy clinging to false hope.

I think that is a lot cooler and more meaningful than "Alligator". <3

#Embers is a hugely influential fic on the fandom for a reason #But now that I'm not gulping down fics with indiscriminate enthusiasm #I maybe do not want to be casually endorsing a fic that hates on Katara and Aang so hard #the author gave Zuko +10 Wisdom without adjusting the other characters accordingly and boy does it show

[readrantannotate]

Hades being so done with his brothers’ drama is the most relatable thing ever

#my man does not want to fight anyone #he just wants to stay in his cozy little kingdom #he even offered to protect Grover #percy jackon and the olympians #percy jackson #percy series #pjo tv show #pjo fandom #pjo #pjo series #hades pjo #hades