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#its not just reddit dudebros actually
vampiriccreature · 2 months
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I think that Vergil has done even more horrible things that we don’t know about in his pursuit of power. Like what was he doing between the ages of 8-19? Atrocities beyond human comprehension is my best guest.
Vergil has shown time and time again to be so consumed with his fear and feeling of abandonment that he will push away anything that seems too “human” or “weak.” He pushed down his emotions and human half, only referring to himself as a demon. He pushed away Dante when he tried to save him at the end of 3, slicing his hand to make sure Dante couldn’t have a chance at grabbing Vergil and saving him. He ignored fear and survival instincts and fought Mundus despite having a full day of fighting and getting defeated by his brother already.
Vergil is not a smart character because he’s so irrational from his fear and greed. He wants power and he doesn’t want to be hurt. Yet it’s so self-destructive. His greed and desperate attempt to chase away his fear caused his downfall. So with this lack of rational thinking, who knows what he’s been driven to do in his past. He’s probably killed, hurt, and destroyed so much more then we know.
As we learned in 5 and Visiojs of V however, we know Vergil is really just a scared 8 year old boy who wants his mother to save him. He just wants to be protected and loved, a very human desire.
So when I think about the “what if” situation where Vergil knew he had a child, it makes me wonder what he’d really be like.
I don’t think he’d abandon Nero. He may push down his emotions and only focus on his pursuit of power but that all stems from his supposed abandonment as a child. So to do to his own kid what was done to him? Just doesn’t make sense. He may have periods where he’ll try to leave but he’ll always come back.
So driven by his own fear of what happened to him and recognizing that Nero is only 1/4th demon he would have Nero start training the MOMENT he could walk. He wouldn’t be a very emotional father, especially if it was just him. Maybe if raising Nero caused him to reconnect with Dante he would be forced to accept what happened to him and realize that Eva didn’t pick Dante over him. But even so, a lifetime of hatred, jealousy, and fear doesn’t just go away even if one discovers it was based in lies.
Vergil wouldn’t be a good father per-say, but if he knew he’d try his best in his own way. His own way being rigorous training and hard to communicate emotions but he’d try to make Nero feel protected.
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4arconinoma · 1 year
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NEWEST MANDALORIAN EP WAS SO FUCKING GOOD HELLO...?????
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kai-teaa · 2 years
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alright i was really talkative on twitter these past few days time to hide back in my tumblr tags
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autistic-ben-tennyson · 2 months
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Still Salty About the Flanderization of Steven
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Many SU fans have had to see these memes and are probably tired of them. I really hate the way people who have never even watched the show and probably just LO’s video flanderize Steven into a bumbling wimp or take scenes like him crying about wanting to be friends with Connie or trying to talk down Spinel out of context. People hate him for not killing his enemies on sight and act as if all he does is talk no jitsu. People act as if he’d die trying to redeem Big Jack Horner from Puss in Boots even though he’s met villains like Jack with Aquamarine and Eyeball and not only did he kick their asses but accepted that they were beyond help. Steven prefers to talk over fighting but isn’t stupid and knows when he has to get serious. Even during his “I can make a change” song that’s twisted out of context, he was still fighting defensively against Spinel. He just wasn’t fighting to kill. As for the meme above, did the creator watch Alien Force? The way Ben handled the Dragon, Reiny and the Highbreed would be pretty similar to how Steven would. The idealistic hero who teaches violence isn’t always the answer has already been done so why does Steven get the most hate for it?
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I reblogged a post about this but I really am tired of how TOH is propped up as the anti SU when Dana is friends with Rebecca and praised the groundbreaking work Rupphire did. The Owl House crew doesn’t hate SU and wasn’t doing a “take that” by killing its villain or claiming not everyone can be talked down with a hug. They’re two different shows with different stories and themes. Steven would also know that some like Belos can’t be redeemed and he didn’t actually redeem the diamonds. He didn’t like them and acts uncomfortable around them in Future but he needed them to cure the corrupted gems. The point of the diamonds as well as Andy was not that you have to accept bigoted family members but a wish fulfillment where queer people could get their families to accept them. I saw this on Reddit but I think Steven gets so much hate because he teaches the idea that retributive violence isn’t always the solution and because he got a good life with a loving family, girlfriend and adoration of everyone without being a self centered sexist asshole. Internet Dudebros hate the character who showed healthy emotion, treats Connie as an equal and taught stuff like acceptance, boundaries and kindness, as they hate the idea that they don’t have any of that because of how bigoted, self absorbed or toxic they are.
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fob4ever · 24 days
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i actually am so fascinated by bja for gender reasons like he's at like the perfect crossroads of effortless masculinity and playful femininity that one can only dream of achieving... and like i actually think its so funny that the vast majority of GD fans are these like almost-conservative dudebros that probably say shit like alphabet mafia unironically.. at the GD HOB show 2 weeks ago i was hearing the most braindead inane annoying reddit conversations known to man around me like it was like killing me actually and i'm just like: I know why I'M here . it's because he is like a dyke to me. why are YOU here.?
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(Referring to this post: https://langernameohnebedeutung.tumblr.com/post/725361975543185408/you-heard-of-hating-female-characters-for-traits)
Do you think it's always a case of people being sexist, or do you think there are cases where the problem is the execution?
(sorry, I had my tabs mixed up).
I mean, for one, "always" is a word that I like to avoid because it's a word that is too big of a commitment to me.
I think execution as well as interpretation both play a role most of the time. And most of the time, they overlap and together they can develop their own very specific dynamics.
The thing is, when I entered fandom at now...almost 15 years ago, things were far worse. Far, far worse. Female characters were routinely portrayed as soulless evil and often violent harpies for no reason (the way they're e.g. often still treated in other, more dudebro-y spaces where female characters can basically be sorted into the categories "hot", "helpful" and "hated" (cough, Borderlands reddit and youtube, cough) - or their entire personality was erased to make her the perfect love-interest.
On the other hand, I feel like in the fandom spaces that have kind of reflected on these issues since then - both the misogyny in the original execution as well as the misogyny in fandom spaces - there is a certain anxiety that makes people ping-pong between these two problems and ultimately, shy away from the issue and the characters entirely.
One example is: How do we deal with female characters who are written to be problematic in extremely misogynistic ways (e.g. the nagging wife). Do we pile on by writing long texts about how she is annoying and nagging and doesn't support her poor husband, therefore meriting the poor writing while at the same time being true to her character and taking her at face value? Probably chiming in with the actual misogynists who will openly hate her AS a woman? Or do we ignore her entire personality and re-design her character into some fandom staple trope that feels more salvageable (but is often also ultimately a cliché like the long-suffering but good-natured doormat wife and isn't the act of making a woman more sweet and manageable sexist in its own right?)? Do we simply pretend her relationship with her husband is just a little bit quirky and fun that way? Or should we let her fade into the background? Do we ascribe a higher motive to her actions? Do we write "hey, yeah, Jane and I got divorced a few months ago" into our fic about the male lead to clear the road to whoever we ship him with? Or do we let him cheat because his wife is so horrible?
How do we deal with the female characters from old-timey works who are given basically no agency? Do we call her out for being useless and annoying and not contributing anything? Or do we construct some deeper agency to her actions? Do we turn her into another "reasonable, good-natured mom-friend"?
Another common complaint against female characters I see is that they're "annoying". On the one hand, I think this comes from the habit of writers of canon, who have decided that the peak of female character agency is to turn them into a token hindrance and rival for the male character who ultimately is wrong but still gets a lot of screen-time arguing and disagreeing and working against a male-character that the audience might like. Which often means they dislike her. The obvious solution is to ship them because they clearly have some hate-love kinda thing going on (I'm saying this in good humour, I love those ships). But sometimes that goes to another extreme where that same character who really, really, really hates a male character for very understandable reasons, has her personality erased and her values and priorities and boundaries ignored to ship her with him - and then fans will suddenly call her abusive and mean if her behaviour in canon doesn't reflect that fanon rationalisation. (though to be fair, I think this is also something that happens with m/m ships) Which is where we end up in the original scenario again, only worse.
I also think the low regard for women's experiences and feelings and the prevalence of misogynistic writing play a role. In execution, the female character's pain and experiences aren't given the same stage (especially if they would inconvenience the male characters around her). In fanon, because I think there is a certain discomfort with putting female characters through certain experiences because it is a misogynistic trope or because it has very specific connotations - and meanwhile, the idea that writing a male character dealing with these same experiences on the one hand (best interpretation) removes the lens of misogyny that causes this discomfort and let's us examine the issue from a less mapped out perspective and b) (less favourable interpretation) on the other hand, it might feel like this experience receives an upvaluation when a man is shown to be dealing with it.
For example, ages ago I saw this clip of an interview with...I think a director? and he talked about how he has to frame scenes, where the male lead cries very differently from the way he has to frame a scene where a female character cries because the audience reacts very differently because female characters are portrayed as crying so much more often, while a crying scene for the male lead is a show-stopper. It has a lot of gravity. This is something we also probably reflect at least subconsciously when we let a character cry. And I think this applies to a lot of things - both in our writing and in our interpretation of works that, e.g. are very male gaze-y. Showing male characters feeling love-lorn and sensitive and sexualised or domestic - that's an interesting exploration of masculinity, it is actively engaging with characters who probably weren't written like that in canon.
Showing your favourite action hero padding around his apartment making breakfast for his boyfriend in bed while thinking about how pretty he is (also, just to drive the point home, he might be pregnant now) is...just that tick more experimental than showing a female character in that same role. Especially if she, too, is a super-strong action heroine who can do anything. (and you are the one impregnating her and making her make breakfast? That doesn't feel nice!)
So yeah,...uh. I think both are an issue.
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eriexplosion · 1 month
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"And I think it really sets people up for dissatisfaction when they expect a core feature of the series to just Stop Happening" eheh, fair. I'm someone who's hoping Tech comes back (because it'd be thematically and emotionally fulfilling, imo) -- and I'm much less enthused about the potential 'empathetic protagonist was actually force sensitive' plot point coming up, but eh. Star Wars has its staple themes; can't really get mad at it for sticking to them. Very much loking forward to the Reddit dudebro grousery if/when Tech returns, either way.
I'm not always enthused about the potential secret force sensitive plot either, though I admit I've opened up to it a LOT more since Ahsoka because I think that the 'anyone can use the force, if they put in the effort, but not everyone has the same level of innate talent' is much preferable to 'some people are just born special.' It treats the force more like a core piece of the universe when anyone can at least partially tap into it, and that makes the whole thing much better for me.
But, yeah it's a staple plot, and I can't come to Star Wars and be mad when Jedi show up. I might bitch a little bit about how they're characterized and all, but I'm still coming in with my expectations pretty set for what Star Wars is about. The franchise has been very clear on its staples after all!
I'm now up to like 99% sure Tech is coming back after CX-2 has been heavily hinted to be Tech. I don't necessarily think he IS Tech because they're just being so obvious about it, but by hinting at it they're basically extending an expectation that Tech WILL appear somewhere. They've really been hitting it out of the park though, so I'm super excited where we go from here.
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freetobeeyouandme · 1 year
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I love Dustin’s My Little Pony Hypothesis so much!! He’s literally doing the opposite of gatekeeping nerd spaces with it! It’s so kind! To not go “actually you must prove your niche knowledge of my interests to prove you belong in my circle” and instead say “your interests, although not my interests exactly (even though he must have watched it to know all this lol bro), are similar enough to make us siblings whether you want to or not.” And in turn Erica realizes that that’s a good thing! That’s a connection and love!! That she is a nerd and that’s good. And it’s so emblematic of the show!! Which doesn’t just have nerds being bullied for being nerds but very deliberately makes its nerds Black, disabled, female and queer!! Making it this thing that people regardless of who they are can bond over! It’s a love letter to all this nerd stuff but it also says this stuff is for all! And that means all and not just white cishte dudebros on reddit! And that’s just so!!!! Hello! I love you!!!!!
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Literally wild to me how Reddit dudebros in the BrBa/BCS fandoms actually seem to want the female characters in these shows to be written worse and with less complexity… like Skyler as a character and Breaking Bad as a whole are so much less interesting if you reduce her role in the series to just that of the “nagging wife”… Jane’s death and its fallout don’t hit the viewer nearly as hard if they see her only as a manipulative femme fatale who didn’t reciprocate Jesse’s feelings on any level… the whole of Better Call Saul is made lesser thematically and narratively if you strip Kim of her agency in her own moral dissolution… why tf do y’all want the shows you’re watching to be worse than they actually are?? If you can only beat off to bad writing go elsewhere!!
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fivehundredsporks · 5 months
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vanity fair gave us a little look into the new Fallout show and I've fucking HAD IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm so fucking sick to the back teeth of the Brotherhood of Steel needing to be in every single fucking fallout related thing. It's just like this franchise is INCAPABLE of leaving them in the fucking dust where they fucking belong, stupid fucking techno-facists that get a raging hardon for ethnically cleansing anything vaguely non-human. AND DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THEIR FUCKNIG MARTY SUE SELF INSERT BAD FANFICTION ASS LEADER. HONESTLY It's the fans that are the worst!!! like those fucking reddit dudebros that bust a fucking nut anytime they see a vertibird or some dude in power armour!!! always excusing their actions just because they aren't real or because they look cool!!!
BUT ALSO WHY THE FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKK IS THE PRYDWEN THERE?????????? WHEN ITS SET ON THE WEST FUCKING COASTT!!!!! ACTUALLY BETTER QUESTION WHY IS IT THERE AT ALL!!!!!! STUPID FUCKNIG BLIMP!!!!! AND THEN THEY'RE POWERFUL AGAIN ON THE WEST COAST WHEN BY NEW VEGAS THEY ARE ON THE VERGE OF BEING WIPPED OUT!!!! AND WHY IS IT T-60 AND NOT T-51B!!!!!! T-60 IS EAST COAST!!!!!! I HATE YOU FALLOUT 4!!!! AND THE DAMAGE YOU'VE DONE!!!!!!
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tianshiisdead · 1 year
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🔥(unpopular Chinese history opinion?)
oh man lol I feel like different circles have such differing views on it I don't even know
unpopular among china scholars/sinologists
not everything is communist propaganda
china was not founded in 1949
not everything is propaganda
century of humiliation is a real thing that people suffered through for generations, it's not made up
propaganda usually works because it has its roots in reality and appeals to real suffering and discontent in people. acting like anything the government promotes is automatically a product of brainwashing and a victim complex and delusion is ridiculous
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Pre-modern China was NOT!! NOT NOT static at ALL!!!!!!!!!! I have no idea how this intensely racist impression from the 1800s has lasted to this day. I get that many China scholars focus on a small timeframe or only modern day, but China's culture and society were constantly changing moving growing etc. the very concept of 'traditional' is potentially ambiguous. From values to religion to philosophy to language to gender expectations and relations, everything changed all the time! Confucious was not the only philosopher there were many rising and falling over the years, Legalism Daoism Mohism etc. The role and rights of women also changed a lot depending on the dynasty, it's commonly known that Tang dynasty was a high point in women's rights (and also a time when muscular men and fat women were more popular than their slender scholar/maiden counterparts) and that the following Song dynasty saw a backlash that made women's rights even worse than before the Tang (this was the birth of foot binding) but the role and concept of genders were constantly in flux other times as well.
unpopular among dudebros
how far the borders of a dynasty expanded isn't the defining factor of how great or worthwhile the dynasty was. Most openly expansionist and imperial dynasty =/= automatic greatest dynasty! I feel like this is a mentality born out of being overly obsessed with war and conquest and land gain as the be all end all of a civilization :/
that being said I do think Tang dynasty was incredible don't look at me
unpopular among those weird racists on reddit
China being conquered and ruled by foreigners isn't a 'gotcha' lmfao every nation was before, and China's invaders often assimilated themselves
unpopular among chauvinists
my earlier point notwithstanding, China still lost to a bunch of northern nomads/tribes and consistently over and over again throughout history lol even the great wall didn't keep us out
people need to stop pretending the different tribes around the borders didn't also have a lot of influence on the country and culture, everyone accepts the influence of other kingdoms and empires over the years but apparently being influenced by nomads and tribes is below them. suck it tf up
unpopular among militant red guard members from 1960
shanshui paintings and traditional culture are pretty cool actually
in general
if Yuan dynasty and Liao dynasty and Jin dynasty are legitimate dynasties so is Qing. Related: if Yuan dynasty clothing was Hanfu so is much of Qing dynasty women's clothing, the Manchu didn't change Han women's clothing
China is incredible and I love it very much yes and it's the birthplace of many great inventions and a huge regional power as well as constantly on the forefront of development for most of history, however, it's not like... necessarily unique in its existence? This goes both ways btw, it wasn't uniquely a victim or uniquely an aggressor, it's not uniquely evil or uniquely good. Like I find people either go 'people don't understand that it was a victim of imperialism and got conquered a bunch, everyone just wants to say its an aggressor' or 'people don't understand it was a major imperial power and conquered a bunch, everyone just wants to say its a victim' so on and so forth. Like, they're both true, and it's not unique as a victim (so was anyone else who fell victim to any expanding power in the west or anywhere else) nor is it unique as an aggressor (so was basically every other major and semi-major group in history that annexed surrounding land and went to war with other expanding powers over influence around them) and that doesn't take away from the importance or impacts of either and people should be able to discuss it but just like... context is important I guess. History is messier than people think and should be approached as such.
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aerodaltonimperial · 1 year
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Okay, all bitterness aside, this stunt last night actually didn't work for a number of reasons and the reality of why it's falling short even on places where the dudebros live like Reddit and Twitter (!!) is because they essentially plucked a single moment out of a 4-month story from early 2022 and attempted to use it again on its own.
It does not make sense that a giant muscle man and fucking Lee Moriarty would run away with their tails between their legs when Hook came out. It doesn't. Hook almost lost to Lee, he wouldn't survive a 2 on 1. Jack was too tired after the Cage fight to be of any use. So them just fucking off like they were scared made no sense, and required too much suspension of disbelief to work. Hook is, like, an angry kitten. Part of his charm is that he is this furious murder boy who is also, like, an adorable twink. It's funny. It's gimmicky in a way that people like to buy into. But it doesn't work like this.
I know what they wanted to do! They wanted to replicate that pop they got when Hook and Danhausen finally shook hands in May. Of course they do; it was huge. But it doesn't work without the 3 months of story lead-up. It doesn't work without Hook already beating up Nese and Sterling, without one of them already being "injured" and really only making it a 1 on 1 fight. It doesn't work because they took a single element out and attempted to replicate the catharsis of a multi-month story, with zero lead-up.
Why did the Hookhausen pop work so well? Because people anticipated it coming. They didn't know it would, not for sure, but everything was there and they had been following for weeks. They were chanting Hook's name well before his music started. They wanted him to come out, were ready for him to come out, and it made sense for him to come out.
What they tried to do last night was tap into the exact same energy from May...without any indication of or reason for it happening besides a pretty flimsy "common enemy."
I get what they tried to do. It's why they are doubling down so hard on it making "sense" now. But it just didn't work. Sorry, Taz.
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hamliet · 1 year
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Hey hamliet, got a bit of an unusual question for you about RWBY.
How do you deal with the negativity?
Now that Volume 9 is going to be on Crunchyroll first and free an entire year later, there's been a lot of negative talk about RWBY and Rooster Teeth. How RT is dying and a shell of its former self. That the RWBY Sub and Discord is going to pirate the hell out of the show instead of supporting it due to the poor treatment of the staff, calling Geoff's statement about how pirating will do nothing more than hurt the show as bad taste, and pretty much fine dooming the show because all that matters now is RT is supposedly a shit company these days and that's all that matters...
Not to mention you STILL have people like the Judgemental Critter releasing videos about how bad RWBY is. There's so little positive RWBY content on Youtube...
Just, how do you deal with it all, the hatedom for a show you love and worries that it might not be ended thanks to the hatedom and controversies surrounding it? Or do you think I'm just making a mountain out of a molehill?'
Sigh.
Regarding YouTube, I ignore it. Sometimes I think about doing takedowns of the Reddit Dudebros who have made RWBY hate videos, but I also don't wanna give them traffic. Instead I use the site I write for (the non-Tumblr one) to write positive RWBY content, which will go up over the next month. It won't have the same reach, probably, but it's all I can actually do.
As for the production stuff, I have mixed feelings.
I think the long hiatus has soured a lot of the trust in CRWBY, and rightly so. Yes, covid, the WBD merge (and WBD's scorched earth policies in general are creating atmospheres of anxiety and fear for all their subsidiaries), Ice Queendom, and the movies have happened, but the sudden hiatus when your previous volume ended on a literal cliffhanger is not a good look. People are going to rightly get suspicious and anxious, and frankly, I think RT didn't handle it well at all. If RWBY continues, and it better, they absolutely cannot have another long hiatus, and they should be forthcoming about things.
I think Geoff's letter is an attempt to be forthcoming. I don't think it's super clear, though, and kind of made things worse--but I also don't think that is Geoff's fault. I think the fandom, as a whole, has issues that are absolutely not the fault of Rooster Teeth or anyone in CRWBY, and are instead the fandom's issues.
The fandom has a semi-parasocial relationship with the actors and writers, which is great on one hand and yikes on the other, because the fans do act entitled in a lot of ways. Because people involved do say certain things, fans take it as Gospel Truth because Their Friend The Involved Person wouldn't possibly have other motives or be a complex human being themselves with subconcious pain and desires that may or may not align with theirs. But the people involved are all, well, people, and they aren't your friend. They're not a bad person or an enemy; they're just a person you don't actually know. People are complicated. I'm also not blaming people involved who speak out; they're doing what they can with what they know. I just wish fans would accept that what fans know is far, far less than they think.
I don't know how to say this in a way that will not get fans furious at me or think I'm dismissing the issues because I'm really not trying to. I'm just an adult who has unfortunately seen the results of simplistic thinking, and there are not simple solutions to complex problems.
If you watch any anime at all, you're probably giving money to studios that treat their workers way, way, way worse than Rooster Teeth does.
If you consume manga, you're giving money to a company that has worked numerous mangakas into permanent disabilities because of their insane deadlines and low pay. Like, Shuiesha is awful. Ishida lost his ability to taste food.
Wait, I can hear all of you now: JUST BECAUSE X DOES IT DOESN'T MAKE IT OKAY FOR RT TO DO IT! To which I say: you're hella f*ckin' right. I am not making this argument at all, just laying facts out. It absolutely is not an excuse. 0% excuse.
Get your sh*t together, Rooster Teeth.
But it is to say, if you're boycotting RT but watching something else, don't say it's on blanket moral principles, because it isn't. You're going to have to ask yourself why you hold them to another standard. And to be fair, we all have limits and our own boundaries, so it's not possible to judge others. I avoid certain media and consume others.
There isn't a great way to handle this. There isn't a simple solution that will just magically make everything okay for everyone. It sucks.
But boycotts actually, imo, not going to help and fairly likely to make the situation worse. So instead of no pay, you want them to get... no pay or jobs at all? Because it's not like there's a "good" animation studio. Trust me, I work in the arts. Having no job is awful, too.
It's not remotely the same, but I think back to the sweatshops people boycotted in the late oughts--understandably so. But here's a little known fact: thanks to all the boycotting, a lot of those women went into the sex industry, and not exactly willingly, but out of desperation. I know some of these women by name. It is not the same thing here, and I'm not saying it is, and maybe shouldn't even use this analogy, but I am using it as an example of how boycotts as simple solutions are not nearly so moral as you might think, in broad terms.
Regarding RWBY's future, I really hope we get the ending as Monty planned. I want it, and I think we only need 3-4 more seasons for it.
Frankly, I think RWBY is one of the most well-written American animated shows to exist in the past decade.
(Go ahead and argue with me, dudebros. You'll lose.) RWBY is actually very popular overseas, which also helps.
I also think of Monty's quote from when his mother passed away, which seems eerie considering his own untimely death:
“I believe that the human spirit is indomitable. If you endeavor to achieve, it will happen given enough resolve. It may not be immediate, and often your greater dreams are something you will not achieve within your own lifetime. The effort you put forth to anything transcends yourself, for there is no futility even in death.”
Anyways, the finale of volume 9 is airing on the anniversary of my dad's death, which is the same day as the anniversary of the death of the friend who introduced me to RWBY's parent as well (yes, our parents died the same day, years apart). RWBY is one of those stories that gives me life and hope again in how it handles grief. I hope there's a path forward for the story that involves treating workers fairly.
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arian-archivist-11 · 1 year
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My biggest ick is the hyper feminization of an obviously masculine character in a m/m ship. It's weird watch this happen so consistently, but then i realize that a lot of people in Fandom are young woman/girls so they project their understandings of relationship dynamics onto said ships. Or that the male artists who work in the Fandom themselves like a more masc/fem approach in their works. Fem interpretations are okay and frankly needed but for some people it seems they can't enjoy it without unesecarily projecting those qualities onto characters and take away their actual personality in doing so. A concerning amount of these people are young woman (attracted to men) who bulldoze past, and ignore the obviously queer relationship and themes they're engaging with, essentially making it cis-het light.
This isn't some "mlM FeTiShIZaTiOn" post because there are enough of those brain dead, thinly veiled misogynistic takes in fandom spaces, but that I'd really like to see more male/masculine/gay influence in fandom spaces. Because many of those girls are young, over-enthusiastic, and queer themselves.
As much as woman and girls do enrich fandom spaces I feel as if there is a lack of people who know how to handle, write, and draw masculine themes. A lot of us are in fandom spaces, but the people actually ruling narratives and influencing fandom spaces aren't us.
From tumblr, to tictok and twitter most Fandom and community accounts are rarely ever men/masculine aligned peeps and the ones that are, are usually not as popular and sometimes treated like they're anomalies. Many male accounts I follow for these ships and communities talk about how suprised people tend to be when they hear their gender because it's not common for men to be in these fandoms spaces. Even when those spaces are about us. The weirdest part is that reddit is the only solid place with gay/queer male oriented communities of large size and that is simply unacceptable. Not only because its fucking reddit. But the fact that there should be many more spaces oriented around us. God's know I need to just feel surrounded by understanding and similar people. Let alone someone in a worse position then my own.
It'd be everything to just be surrounded by people I share an essential part of me in commen with when I'm talking about silly needy stuff. And communities seem hell bent on ignoring us or being downright hostile.
This isn't even mentioning the not very disguised bigotry we face.
Some experience micro-agressive, and even bigoted behavior from peole who interact with them or their work. I hardly interact with anyone to avoid this kind of shit but I see it all too often around me.
Fandom is lacking a masculine presence. Even when we're the ones making the art and writing the fics, the people who run the massive blogs and accounts are usually never us. And when we make blog spaces and run them our precanse is treated as unusual or even met with varying degrees of indifference and anger.
Fandom has a problem with anti-masculinity and heteronormativity in how it enteracts with male/queer male stories. We owe ourselves some basic self respect to push back against unhealthy narratives and to let stories that value our masculinity thrive. And for younger guys in fandom to feel safe in being themselves when they interact with our spaces.
I've heared to many stories of guys pretending to be more fem or swallowing down complaints about content made for m/m relationships because they feel like their "taking up space" and "being too loud" by voicing their concerns.
I'm a pretty fem gay boy but I still desire to have a more masculine presence in queer spaces that are oriented around fiction. The sheer amount of nerdy accounts that are ran by really masc guys who think no one in non dudebro, cis-het spaces would be interested in them is heartbreaking.
Masc or fem you're appreciated and talente and you deserve to express yourself however you want. Trust me every time time I see a content creator post and image of themselves in a skirt or another showing off his jacket or fitness gains it acts as a little more inspiration to me.
Ideas of masculinity being threatening or incompatible with our communities is crypto-terf bullshit. If you want to be an openly masculine/male blog, account, or personality then be just that. One of the greatest barriers for masculine queer people is feeling out of place no matter where you go, so they deserve a space to be at home. To feel like their masculinity isn't dampened by their queerness or that they cause problems by being masculine and queer. Masculine queer people are my fucking world. Healthy masculinity that's unafraid to be itself is something I wish I had in my male "role models" growing up.
It's fun watching my favorite streamer talking about how hot boys are in the most manly-man, guy-dude way ever. Young guys deserve that recognition and relatability. We deserve role models and inspiration.
No more about, us without us. Even for simple shit like fandom.
(Also i find it really fucking interesting that with a rise of terfy, right wing puritinism in fandom there is also a rise of conditional ecceptance, homophobia and trabsphobia towards anyone male aligned. This is more widespread problem then I think is fully realized. There's an abnormal amount of push back to just our precanse.)
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Tbh I dont think ryan hates daemon. I think he really likes him actually. The problem is is that he likes him the same way a reddit dudebro might like daemon. So we get a daemon who doesnt give a shit about his relationships with ppl, he only cares about "interesting" things like war and having cool shots with his dragon or his sword or saying edgy one liners like "dragons didnt make us kings". Daemon gets a scene taming a dragon even though he already has one, so realistically it would kill him, just cause ryan thought it'd be cool. Ryan has him be cold disrespectful and then straight up abusive towards rhaenyra the other main character and the woman hes supposed to love cause we gotta get ppl talking about daemons deep dark mysterious inner thoughts and cause remember guys he's dangerous. Like looking back on its kinda cringe
Maybe you're right, a lot of his arrogant, dumb interviews sound like he is one of the reddit bros trying to 'explain' us girlies about the 'real' Daemon. Even if the 'real' Daemon is not like that in the book.
... So this moron wanted an hyper masculine killer Prince man... And he casted someone who worked with Steven Moffat. 😂 Mr. Sappy Romances.
And he thought he would just go with a Daemon stoic and without feelings? After he already filmed scenes caring for his family? Why are the dudebros so boring? What is interesting about an stoic character that has no relationships? Relationships are the key to drama.
What is more annoying is how hypocritical they are. Oh, Daemon can't have his family's love or any of the meaningful relationships he has, but fucking Aemond can just be a Kinslayer by accident, fucking Aegon is suddenly not a rapist. No, he was never in the books, they say. The books are only unreliable when it's about the male Greens. Not Daemon.
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‘misandry exists’ not as in ‘men as a social class are systematically opressed and underprivledged by virtue of being men’ and not ‘misandry exists’ in the ‘the libs dont want men to be masculine anymore!!’ way and not ‘misandry exists as in ‘uh not ALL men yknow?? its pretty bigoted that women feel unsafe around men if you stop and think about it’ way and definitely not ‘misandry exists’ in old white guy who’s mad that his grankids tell him that his having a job doesnt excuse him treating his wife like a maid kind of way 
but rather, ‘misandry exists’ in the ‘so many so called ‘progressives’ learnt that feminism and equality, are like, good things, but never bothered to actually learn any theory or even more importantly unlearn the gender essentialism taught to them by a society that has never recovered from christian fundamentalism so instead of learning that masculinity and femininity are arbitrary social constructs that are neither inherently good nor bad and that have no ontological reality, they just took ‘masculinity = domininant, logical, superior and feminity = subservient, irrational, inferior’ and rebranded it as ‘masculinity = toxic opressors and feminity = innocent victims’ without any critical throught and now we’re unable to talk about gender or sex or feminism or equality or literally anything else properly because so many people have drank the far righr kool-aid and are applying this incredibly reductive black and morality to what are nuanced and ultimately morally neutral socially constructed roles and are only really doing more damage to men who are already penalised by the patriarchy for not ‘being masculine in the right way’ (trans men, gay men, men of colour, etc) instead of actually doing literally anything to progress the struggle for actual gender equality’ 
but yeah saying ‘misandry exists’ makes me sound like a fucking chud and automatically has these people, who make up most of the so called ‘progressive’ and ‘leftist’ spaces these days, tuning me out and writing me off as some reddit dudebro who’ll try to convince them of ‘the matriarchy’, so i hope the conservatives and terfs are enjoying their 2-in-1 gender essentialism and anti-intellectualism combo i guess, we’re all gonna go down in flames because you dumb sacks of shit cant be bothered to learn basic social anthropology, let alone read some non-radfem feminist theory
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