#gay discourse

[deakwithit]

you can be a sex repulsed ace and not shame people for having sexual feelings and thoughts.

you can be a sex repulsed ace and not make people feel like theyre disgusting perverts for thinking such "gross" things

you can be a sex repulsed ace and be sex positive for other people as well as advocate/push for safe, consensual sex + kink

#asexual discourse #discourse #lgbt discourse #gay discourse #sex positive #lgbt #panda posting #sung tongs 🐯

[chaos-in-one]

Hey yeah reminder that I am gay (orientation, not umbrella term) and also a girl and if you're going to be weird about that you can leave

Also sometimes people are multiple genders at once (like me). You can't successfully exclude an entire gender from things like orientations. Sometimes a woman is also a gay man. Sometimes a man is also a lesbian woman. We've always been here. Gender isn't black and white, and therefore neither are things related to or affected by it- like orientation.

#gay #gay man #turigirl #pro turigirl #pro lesboy #gay discourse

[cloud-based-and-rainpilled]

Old Gay VS New Gay discourse is so interesting to me as a “new gay” (milennial) growing up around “old gays” (boomers)

Old gays refuse to adapt to new nuanced gender and sexuality labels, feeling they’re superfluous and not “real issues.” New gays refuse to understand the point of view of a community not that long ago that was ravaged by AIDS and was (and is) straight-up illegal in public to be in most parts of the world

It’s a microcosm of the boomer/milennial dichotomy and imo shouldn’t even exist. There’s always been gay men VS lesbian VS bisexual disagreements and schisms and even proto-trans discourse about drag and androgynous presentation, but I’d like to think with a larger, more vocal community than ever, we’d come to an understanding that we don’t need to be fighting! We’re on the same side even with very strong disagreements!

Tl;dr if Boomer gays and Milennial gays could just rest thinking the other was cringe instead of completely disregarding and getting hostile towards the other we’d be in a much better place inter-community wise. But, to be honest, mostly I just see milennial gays completely disregarding the feelings of the people who made it possible for us to go outside idk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

#getting into slapfight arguments with ppl over the gender of angels has made me think on this ngl #the enbie vs cis gay discourse is……….. so tiring #pls just stay in your own community of ppl age wise if it’s that much of an issue to have empathy for someone else’s pov #ESPECIALLY boomers who were there for the worst of it #and DOUBLE for milennial/zoomer/gen alpha (they might be too young actually idk their age) who take for granted what they achieved #lgbt #gay #lgbtq #trans #discourse #gay discourse #queer #queer community #lgbtqi community #im tagging good omens kinda ‘cause it is relevant here tbh #‘oh no there’s nuance in this interpretation’ 10 years ago if two men kissed on tv people would be rioting lmao #anyone else here survive sherlock cause?? that shit was dire #terfblr #<- idk if this is pro or anti but it rolls off the tongue lol #nonbinary #boomer moment #my hot takes never do well just had to get this out there lol #also these are broad stroke statements obvs #bisexual #lesbian

[raccoonzinspace]

No discourse. Here's a picture of this big beautiful good boy that showed up on my porch this morning.

And yes, he was reunited with his owners and is safe.

#ace discourse #trans discourse #gay discourse #discourse #free serotonin #tw dogs #he's a very good boy #super friendly too

[asexual-means-no-attraction]

Is it just me or is there some weird push to think of cis mlms as privileged and lowkey evil lately? It's so odd, I keep seeing people use "cisgay" and legit slurs derogatorily and creating this imaginary cis gay dude to get angry at, and just. Do they genuinely, albeit mistakenly believe that society loves cis mlms or is it just another misandric trend in the community?

Oh my dear sweet friend. You are almost right. The only thing wrong is that this is not a new push that has happened. This has been around for a good while.

I have seen people say that gay men are privileged strictly because they are vy men. I do think there is things worth discussing how unconscious bias can benefit/hurt them because they are men, but these people genuinely believe gay men face no real oppression anymore and are only privileged individuals.

This idea has extended to calling lesbians privileged for being cis or calling binary trans people privileged. I've even seen people say that anyone who isn't asexual is privileged and faces no oppression. It's fucked and shows an extreme lack of intersectionality.

There are people out there who believe gay men are they themselves an oppressive force rather then being a group that faces backlash through threats of/and actual violence, homelessness, arrests, false accusations, demonization, discrimination, etc. Just because the ga men you specifically know don't personally experience (or perhaps don't feel safe telling you) more extreme forms of the oppression, that doesn't mean the group as a whole doesn't. There is no universal gay experience but the statistics still show a large amount of violence.

People just want someone to be mad at. A group and person they can blame all issues on. And while there is something to say about there being certain groups that push certain ideas or contribute to discrimination on a cultural level, there's also something to say about throwing all blame onto said group and using it as an excuse to either spread more hate or not improve on yourself.

That all said. You can rest peacefully knowing this isn't a mainstream trend. I know it can feel like it a LOT of the time. But most people have enough common sense not to believe that BS. And the friends I used to have in college that did say that stuff pretty much immediately changed their mind when they talked to an actual gay professor we had. They just took all the info from some Tumblr post. And if that's where you're getting your LGBT history and present discrimination problems then thats the first part of your problem.

#answered #ask #discourse #lgbt discourse #gay discourse

[manyminded]

hey. stop queer infighting.

I don’t care if the person you’re fakeclaiming is some harmful label, I don’t care if they’re a legitimately bad person, I don’t care if they’re faking,

what I do care about is rampant homo/transphobia.

there are still hate crimes everywhere. there are still people being killed for being gay. there are still people kicked out of their homes for being trans.

I don’t give a fuck about labels. No matter how ‘weird’ someone is, they belong in our community.

trying to kick them out is exactly what the -phobes want. We are stronger together. If we have this pointless discourse we only make ourselves weaker.

if we want to beat the homo/transphobia, we need to be together. we can’t do this apart. it’s better to give kindness to those who don’t deserve it than refuse to give it to those who do.

#I am very hesitant about transx people interacting with this post. But you’re allowed - i think I’d undermine my message to say ‘dni’. #pride #pride month #lgbtqia #lgbtq #lgbt #queer #queerphobia #transphobia #homophobia #queer discourse #trans discourse #gay discourse

[traggotifyourenasty]

But it is a phase

Everything is. Life is made up of constant changes, to the point where that’s the only thing that doesn’t change.

We shed our skin. We cut and grow our hair. We get new clothes. We have less bones at 30 than we did at 3 months. We change the words we use. We start listening to new music. We become different versions of ourselves. Ideally, we become our favorite versions of ourselves. We change.

We go through eras, phases, moments, epochs, changes. We get our hearts broken by people who won’t matter in 3 years. We get happy for people we have never met before. We feel indifferent towards the person we’ve knows since kindergarten.

The duration doesn’t determine the importance. Permanence is a hoax. Everything changes, and we have no way of knowing when or how much.

So who cares if your sexuality changes in 7 months? Who gives a damn if you identify as something different in 40 years from now? Who you are right now doesn’t negate who you’ve been or who you will become. We are a collage of all the changes we undergo in our lifetime.

So, again, what if it’s a phase? Everything is a phase. And this one, however long it may be, matters. Just as much as the rest.

#stop pretending like phases aren’t the most normal natural and beautiful things in the world #let people live freely and find themselves #we all deserve that much #lgbtq #lesbian #gay #bisexual #nonbinary #transgender #lgbtq discourse #gay discourse #trans discourse

[ubi-goes-uwu]

i’ve always identified a lot with drag queens, and being AFAB i never really understood why. but after discovering myself to be enby, i see that my relationship to femininity is very similar — when i’m feminine, i’m performing (and i have fun with it too sometimes, like adding characters to outfits and such), and i wanted to see if any other AFABs felt the same :)

#lgbtq #non binary #gay discourse #lgbt discourse #afab things #afab dysphoria #drag queen

[83-for-truth]

i hate tiktok just for the fact that it really enables people to be stupid. tell me why my straight friend tried telling me that “twink” is a slur

#dear diary #i hate tiktok #like god you would not have survived on tumblr in 2012 #twink #gay discourse

[postmortemmen]

Immediately opening tiktok to pointless queer discourse while coming down from psychedelics is a surreal experience

#I really felt the “online gays post discourse and real life gays look for ketamine” tiktok in that moment #gay #trans #trans man #lgbt #gay discourse #transgender #gay guy

[chaos-in-one]

I hate "non men loving non men" and "non women loving non women" being treated like the only valid definitions of lesbian and gay

As a multigender person, despite being a woman, that definition excludes me from lesbian, and despite being a man it excludes me from gay.

Because even though my gender shifts to match people I am close to, outside of that I am still not a non man or a non woman. I am never going to be included in "non men" or "non women".

That being the *only* accepted definition implies my partners who are gay or lesbian either

A. Aren't actually gay/lesbian

B. Don't see me as multigender

C. Aren't actually attracted to me

And any of the three is fucking shitty to imply.

They are not attracted to me because I'm not a man or not a woman. They are attracted to me because they experience queer attraction to a gender I am.

#multigender #genderfluid #pangender #trans #transgender #trans discourse #lgbtq discourse #lgbt discourse #nmlnm #nwlnw #gay #lesbian #gay discourse #lesbian discourse

[musclesandhammering]

You know what I really don’t like? When queer celebrities have beef/criticise/disagree with a straight celebrity and a bunch of people respond with “How could you criticise [x]?? They’ve supported lgbt causes for years, even before it was popular!!! They donate to lgbt charities, they’ve done [xyz] to help gay kids!!! They were advocating for gay rights when you were still in the cLoSeT!!! How dare you oppose them!?!!”

Like……. can we stop acting like being a straight “ally” buys you some kind of allegiance from queer people and that gays should tip-toe around their “allies” because they owe them something and/or because they shouldn’t risk alienating them??

The general trend of ally-ship has become annoying because liberal straights think they deserve a cookie for supporting basic human rights, and that mindset leads them to use their pro-lgbt track record as leverage anytime they get into arguments with gays. It’s just- ……….. *sigh* Yeah.

#and don’t even get me started on the way people subtly weaponise queer celebs’ time in the closet #ugh it’s so gross #yes I’m mad about the same old shit #it doesn’t matter if you are the wronged party in a spat #you don’t say that so and so should’ve been grateful to you #for ‘not outing him all those years he was sucking dick and still in the closet’ #and the fact that like…. a majority of people glom on and agree with these straight celebs when they do shit like this #it’s just so so annoying #as a queer person I hate you #gay #queer #queer celebrities #queer celebs #gay celebs #gay celebrities #lgbt #lgbtq #gay discourse #queer discourse #unpopular opinion #maybe idk #seems like it to me #personal

[dakotadawn]

You responded to exactly zero points of the previous anon; instead you went on and on about some cotton ceiling conspiracy theory designed to paint the trans community as full of rapists (despite our actual very obvious relationship to sexual assault — usually the receivers, not the perpetrators. I know you know this. You’re a clever girl). Yes, there are idiots saying dumb shit online — “you don’t know until you try it” “you’re transphobic if you wouldn’t sleep with a trans person” etc, but of course you see these so often when you place yourself in radfem circles, and completely ignore the vast majority of the trans community who wouldn’t want somebody “not attracted to trans people” to sleep with them under any circumstances. You have been radicalised into believing the group of people you belong to is a threat to cis women, much like racial minorities were tricked into voting for Trump, or unionist Northern Irelanders believe that they are safer and better cared for under British rule. Twitter idiots are not “trans rights activists” they’re morons who think that pronouns equate to sexuality, and log on to make that everybody else’s problem. The truth is more complicated than that.

The thing is, there are many people who fully identify as heterosexual (or homosexual) who date trans people who identify as the gender they’re attracted to. Hundreds; thousands, probably millions, even. Your assertion that very few people other than bisexuals would consider sleeping with trans people is tangibly incorrect, and there is evidence all around you in culture. Just because your claims are unfalsifiable doesn’t make them right (It’s the oldest fallacy in the book!)

You can decry them all as in the closet, repressed, in denial as much as you like, but it doesn’t change the tangible facts: 1. Sexuality is not a monolith, nor a scientific idea but a social one that changes through history and culture (though yes, has a biological element) and 2. you are not the arbiter of what words mean — nor is any individual. As a trans woman, I’ve not really ever had a problem with lesbians not liking me, especially in those big LGBT cities. A little more before HRT, but honestly? Barely. It’s a deal breaker for some, and that’s fine. Most trans people are cool with that. The existence of incels within our limitless community should not and cannot define the many many consensual relationships between trans people and cis people who aren’t bisexual.

Ask yourself honestly — what is more likely, that they are all lying, repressed, and/or closeted, or your understanding of sexuality is needlessly limited and doesn’t reflect the diverse cultural experience of it?

Alright, I'll break this down individually.

>instead you went on and on about some cotton ceiling conspiracy theory designed to paint the trans community as full of rapists

I admit this discourse exists almost entirely online. Most trans people do not think like this, but the trans community needs to call out and condemn those who do. I see few doing it, so that responsibility falls on me.

>You have been radicalised into believing the group of people you belong to is a threat to cis women

If they're not threats (I think they are threats), they're at the very least rude and nasty, and so I will call them out on it.

>The thing is, there are many people who fully identify as heterosexual (or homosexual) who date trans people who identify as the gender they’re attracted to.

I fully believe that people identify this way. Believe me, I have extended experience with men who claim to be straight being attracted to me. I just don't *believe them*. Sure, I guess that's unfalsifiable.

>As a trans woman, I’ve not really ever had a problem with lesbians not liking me, especially in those big LGBT cities. A little more before HRT, but honestly? Barely. It’s a deal breaker for some, and that’s fine.

You're telling me homosexual females decided to sleep with a male just because the male identified as a woman? *Before hormones*?! I'm calling bullshit on this one. If you still have a dick they're chasers, not lesbians.

#dakota answers! #asks #anon asks #discourse #trans discourse #sexuality discourse #gay discourse

[williamaltman]

Got into fucking flag discourse and lowkey ruined my night. This situation (hate against the gay man ag) is sad in ao many ways, because there's people who hate it due to all misinformation, people who know the truth but still hate it just because it's similar to the other flag made by a problematic person, and people who just want to be hateful.

In fact, most people who know the new version isn't the same but are still against it, seem like they just want to be hateful against mlm and don't want to admit they were wrong so they keep their crusade against a perfectly acceptable flag.

I saw people saying it's just a brighter version and an edit, when in reality all the stripes are actually different tones and RGBs specifically picked by the creator. It doesn't like, technically take from the old image at all, if you know what I mean.

How do you know and care enough to go around making call out posts and attacking people who use it, but not enough to go and check all the facts? And then I see people saying they hate the discourse, but they're contributing to it by speaking up against it. There's no way to just make everyone just stop using it all of a sudden, the only way to avoid more discourse is to actually leave it alone.

#Gay flag #Gay man flag #Gay men flag #Gay male flag #Gay #Gay Pride #Gay discourse #Gay flag discourse #Flag discourse #Pride flag discourse

[tired-boy-discursed]

hi! genuinely curious ask here- I don't know much about mspec?

I was wondering if you could explain just a bit about it. also, how does it relate to SAM? and why do people strongly hate it?

of course no pressure to answer.

anyways have a good day 😁 /gen

Uh

Let's see

Mspec is Multiattraction Spectrum or being attracted to more than one gender!

Some people experience Multiattraction and monoattraction(attraction to 1 gender). Which is where the SAM is brought in. Some people may be attracted to 1 gender romantically but multiple sexually. Some people may be attracted to multiple genders romantically and 1 sexually.

And a lot of people are upset at this because they refuse to see that people outside of the aro and ace community experience complex attraction and use labels that may seem contradictory at first because of that.

#anon asks #mspec discourse #lesbian discourse #gay discourse #label discourse

[funnyirvine]

cam we bring back metrosexual... i just think its refreshing and makes me thing they wanna freak cities which is also funny! love to imagine a feller with a sparse beard and limp wrist holding a hot coffee cup, walking down the city streets, scarf flowing elegantly behind them.........idk its a lovely image can we please reinvigorate the concept

#also calling ppl twinks is so tired #id prefer a slur to fruity #i like fruitcake though... yes i am a delightful treat thank you #gay #gay discourse #homoerotic imaginaries