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#if I say ''Loki is a villain'' I'll be following it up with ''in Thor 1/Avengers 1/X comic'' basically
missvifdor · 2 years
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DR MCU hypothetical scenario:
Steve: MissVifDOr, follow us, we have a mission and your help is needed! 
Me having put on my most beautiful outfit and being equipped with my ARMY BOMB and my signs with an encouraging message: Now? 
Tony: Yes, now!  We have finally managed to locate our target who is hiding very nicely in Siberia. 
Me: Ah yes but no, it will not be possible!  *Shakes my ARMY BOMB in front of them* I'm about to go see BTS and I'm definitely not going to cancel an event like this! 
Natasha was half amused but still serious: You can always go to another concert, MissVifDOr.  I heard that they were going to stay in the United States for a while to do performances and promotions for their new song. 
Me having the appearance and powers of a celestial being: No.  I refuse.  Do you know how long I've been waiting for this concert?!  And you are telling me that I must miss one if not THE most beautiful moment of my life for a dick who will end up at level 7 of the infernal and eternal barbecue?! 
Loki trying to resonate with me even though the whole thing amuses him madly: Darling, would you be willing to give up on us to see your favorite band while we arrest this man with multiple bombings under his belt? 
Me: And missed the opportunity to have eye contact with Park Jimin?  One of the most beautiful people I've ever seen walked on this abandoned planet? 
Loki: I thought I was the most beautiful person in your life, Love...
Me a little more tenderly: And of course you are Loki.  But BTS has a very special place in my heart too and I still won't miss this concert. 
Steve: *Annoyed* You put civilians in danger, you know that right? 
Me: Argh!  All right, I'll get it for you, man!  Do you have a photo? 
*Clint showing the target's photo*
Me: I'll be back in a second... *Disappears*
*Me coming back two seconds later with our target bound and gagged*
Me: And there's a villain delivered in a hurry!  Can I go to my concert now? 
Tony: ...I guess so, thanks kid. 
*Me about to leave*
Me turning around to talk to the tied up guy: If I'm ever late to see BTS because of you, I'll curse you for life to end up alone, helpless and loveless until death end of your life and I believe that you know that I have this kind of power.  *Speaks to the team* But don't worry, I haven't cursed him like that yet, I've just condemned him to have semi-erections all his life. 
All: That's...good to know. 
Loki: Have fun at your concert, Darling.
Me: Aww, Thanks Loki! When I get back I'll show you the videos and the memories I've brought back. And then we can both sit quietly to watch Bridgerton, I can't wait to see how Daphné and the Duke will end up together! On your side, have fun with the interrogation!
*Me checking that I haven't forgotten anything*
Me: Well I'm going, see you later the team!  *Leaves for my concert*
*The silence has returned to the living room of the Avengers tower*
Natasha: At least we know that the delivery of our targets will be faster if MissVifDOr has already planned to go somewhere *Catch the tied up man to take him to the interrogation room*
Tony with a nervous laugh: And you heard?  She condemned this guy to no longer being able to have an erection for the rest of his life... It's...
Thor who just arrived but waited for the end of the conversation before I left:  Absolutely terrifying!  I have to remember not to make angry the little feather fairy !  Brother, consider yourself lucky to be one of his favorite people! 
Loki: I realize the extent of this luck in times like these... But I have to say that I have the best girlfriend in the 9 realms! *Extremely proud*
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worstloki · 3 years
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maybe it cause loki is a villain with a smugness is why? lol some villains are liked for some reasons who are we to judge like for example loki, joker and draco malfoy seem be like villains
There’s nothing wrong with liking villains, it’s just that in both the films and comics Loki has been recently proven himself on many occasions to fall more under anti-hero (or hero!) and displays effort to be/is morally better than his relative designated hero (Thor). Decent comparisons here would be in regards to characters who were raised bad, looked down on by their own, and then wound up on the good side anyway, so Zuko and a mix of Sirius/Regulus would be better comparisons to be made here. 
While characters like Azula and Draco have the possibility for it they weren’t given redemption because of where the texts ended. Their contributions to villainy can be read as resulting from the abusive environments they were raised in and without that need to prove themselves a part of their family/organization there is much room to develop, especially since the plot cuts off after their reasons to remain bad have been eliminated. While some people like the villainous aspects (which, totally fine and understandable) some people find the idea of never being too far gone to be redeemed inspiring. The difference here is that whether either character decides to be better or doesn’t is left to interpretation (don’t @ me about the a:tla comics or the cursed child, i’m not talking about them rn). For this category I would only put Loki if it referred solely to Thor 1 or the comics before Kid Loki. I think a better comparison here could be to Ava or Killmonger (if he had lived) because of where their narratives cut off.
The Joker is... the Joker... and I’m pretty sure he’s not even trying for anything like a redemption? Of what I’ve read he doesn’t show remorse or guilt over his actions nor does he try to undo his work or have a purpose other than homicide? Not sure who to compare to but lets go with Sozin/Azulon/Ozai trifecta and Moldymort. 
There’s plenty of factors that could be involved, and “smug villain” can 100% be a reason on it’s own too. I just. Don’t like to simplify it that much. And the Thing about this though is that regardless of where the hero or villain status might lie people tend to decide which characters they like based off what they find entertaining or worth personally investing in, which is why patterns between favourites are always fun to take a look at, and why one person might define villain as synonymous with morally bad/evil while another will equate it to being an antagonist. 
#I myself tend to throw villain in with meaning either of those last options by the way#if I say ''Loki is a villain'' I'll be following it up with ''in Thor 1/Avengers 1/X comic'' basically#when judging morally I know I go more off intention because I'm subjective#if I see Wanda trying to stop a bomb and blowing up the floor of a building I'd blame her lack of practice in magic not call her evil for it#if Wanda intends to leave Agatha suffering within her own body as torture and then does so? Now THAT goes into villain territory#it's why Wanda accidentally taking over Westview would've been fine by me but she DOES know what's going on so I go hmmmm wait....#it's why I keep the genocide of jotunheim in mind but don't blame loki for thinking it was the only thing he could do#even if he had planned to kill the entire race... his context is against Thor and Odin and Bor who all attempted genocide themselves ???#we already know Loki isn't exactly into bloodlust or enjoying the fight like the warriors 5 so he isn't there to kill the race tho he tries#since the entire race is framed to be bad by the narrative I honestly read the destroying as more symbolic for loki#in the sense that he could destroy everything he is and everything he's tried to be and it still wouldn't make a difference to odin#since it's followed up by Loki then also letting go#and Odin in this instance of course represents the entire Asgardian society as the literal king#so Loki essentially lets go of what is expected of him which is also why Thor yelling for him doesn't make a difference now#he's just done trying and being rejected and criticized so he doesnt let go to solely to end his life but rather stop doing what others want#if you go for the literal thing he's done though he totally just tried to kill an entire race so odin will see him as a worthy son#BUT that race itself was presented as already dying and 'bad' and Thor himself only opposed Loki bc it was Loki doing that#even though Loki is the main antagonist here he's given motive and morals while the Jotuns are only implied to have to the same#they need the casket for their planet but Laufey also prioritizes killing Odin and 'revenge' is 'bad' in the eyes of many unfortunately#killmonger too lets not forget that his intention was to make things better for people like him suffering everywhere#the only 'evil' things I'd say he did was kill the people he was working with (the lady?) and then try for his goal trying to kill others#if he'd been a bit more successful he'd be in the same boat as loki except killmonger's context (assuming it's earth) definitely stands out#it's why I categorize him as a villain#even though i'm crazy tempted to throw him into anti-hero often#fighting t'challa in the ring as he did was :// but he's got a goal to achieve you know#it's sympathetic but T'Challa and everyone opposing/with him knows the weight of what will be done#Thor/Loki were raised on xenophobia/racism and war stories so the lives of Jotuns don't have the worth of lives if it's in a war#literally the only thing saving Loki is that he was going off Asgardian morals instead of his own at the time#i rant but tldr it's not wrong to group characters together but if you ask me to compare draco/joker/loki i'd say they have more differences#and just to clarify bc I know how reading comprehension here is I'm not saying genocide is good but consider I'm speaking on fictional
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charliedawn · 3 years
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Imagine Loki being jealous of Thor's popularity..until you tell him that he his your favorite Avenger ! (Childpov! Because I find it cute..)
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When Thor and Loki land on Earth, they both feel disoriented by their sudden shift in surroundings. However, once they are a little less confused, Thor is submerged by fangirls that ask for autographs and photos. Loki rolls his eyes dramatically at his brother's wide smile and surrounded by Midgardian females. However, he is surprised to feel a slight tug on his sleeve and looks down to see a child with a pen and a notebook. He arks an eyebrow, but the girl doesn't seem scared and only raises her objects with stars in her eyes.
" Could you please sign this ?!"
Loki frowns in confusion and looks around, wondering if your parents would interfere or try to get you away from him, but no one comes..He then looks back down at you before crouching in front of you with a small smile.
" You must be mistaking, darling. I'm not an Avenger. If you're looking for my brother, he's right over there.."
He says while showing you the tall blond man with his finger. But the child cuts him off to scream, almost indignantly, at his reply.
"Of course you are ! You tried to save the planet, didn't you ?! You fought Thanos and saved the people of Asgard !"
He is about to deny, but reconsiders when he realizes that you are right..for the most part.
" Well..technically."
He says with a certain uncertainty in his voice. It is bad to lie to a child, but he isn't really lying..Just not adding any information on how he killed thousands of people in New York. He takes the objects and frowns, not really sure how to use the objects you handed him. You smile and show him by mimicking the gestures. He finally gets it and signs his name on the notebook with his neat handwriting. You take the notebook and squeal in utter happiness as you clutch the notebook against your heart while jumping up and down excitedly. He can't help but smile before Thor arrives and frowns at the odd scene. He thinks the girl wants an autograph and is about to take the notebook when Loki grabs his hand, glaring at him warningly.
" Don't you dare. You have your Midgardian fans. Let me have this."
Thor is surprised by his brother's demeanor, until the girl wraps her arms around his leg and screams.
" Thank you so much ! I'll keep it forever !"
Thor sees a smile draw on his brother's face as he gently ruffles your hair.
" No worries, little girl. What is your name ?"
" My name is Y/N !"
You answer with a large grin.
" And do you know who he is, Y/N ?"
Loki glares up at Thor for asking the question, but is overwhelmed with joy at your answer.
" Of course ! He's King Loki ! He's the coolest Avenger ever ! And he's got those superpowers ! Mom says he's a magician ! I love magicians !"
Loki feels his heart beat loudly in his chest and if he could cry, he would have. He takes you in his arms and carries you onward, not giving one last glance back at Thor. Thor is shocked, but doesn't dare contradict his brother's action, only following you after a moment.
" Don't worry, sweetheart. We'll go find your parents, alright ?"
A couple of hours later in the Avengers tower :
Loki shows you to all of the Avengers with a wide smile as you look at everything with glitter in your eyes. He is so proud and happy that none of the others dare tell him to put you down..
" Hum..Should we tell him that the child is supposed to go home at some point ?"
Clint asks while eyeing the both of you warily, but Nat only smiles as she had never seen Loki so happy..Ever.
" No. Let him have his fun for the day. Plus, I already asked her and phoned her parents. They agreed for her to stay with him for the day..As long as we stay with them as well."
Thor only smiles satisfactorily as he sees his brother carrying the small human around.
" How much is a child on Earth ?"
The whole team looks at him with wide eyes and Tony sighs exasperatedly before pinching the bridge of his nose with two fingers.
"Oh no..Not again. When we thought it couldn't get any worse, even Thor is considering buying the kid.."
Thor, still staring at you both, doesn't think twice before saying nonchalantly.
"..Or kidnapping it."
This time, even Natasha is shocked and Thor only smiles at the whole team before adding.
" What ? You think we paid for Loki ? Can't you do that on Earth ?"
" Oh my God.."
Bruce exclaims, shocked and also horrified by the news. No wonder Loki hated him.. Steve sighs while looking at you and standing up to talk to Loki. The moment he announces that he has to take you back, nobody can tell who is the most heartbroken between the two of you. You hug Loki tightly and refuse to let him go. Finally, it's Loki that has to bring you back. Your parents witness your heartbroken goodbyes.
" Goodbye, king Loki. I always knew you weren't a villain.."
You hug him again and, to your surprise, Loki only stands up, makes a magical paper appear and goes to talk to your parents.
" Dear parents of Y/N, you may not know me that well, but I want your child to spend time with me. I think I just made a friend and I may not know anything about friendship, but what I know is that if anything happened to the small human, I would certainly destroy this world and take my own life. Please, accept to sign this contract that allows me to spend time with her, whenever you want..Just, please, allow me to see her again. She's my only fan, and I don't even know how that happened. So, I'm begging you, let me keep her for a day or two a week and I will be forever grateful."
Your parents, awestruck and impressed by the speech, look successively at you both multiple times before taking the paper. Their eyes widen at the money and from what they could see, the God was absolutely serious..
" We..We'll think about it ?"
You father answers awkwardly, not really sure of how to react. The God could easily crush him..Plus, that was one hell of a speech. Loki, satisfied with the answer, bows courteously before coming back to you and crouching in front of you with a smile.
" I'm sure we'll see each other soon."
You smile widely and give him one last hug before he gets back in the car.
2 weeks later :
You're adopted now, don't even try to fight it. You will be his best friend and he will take you wherever he goes as his personal emotional support and a way to never be humiliated again.
" See, brother ! I can be popular too !"
Thor rolls his eyes, the same way Loki did when he had fangirls around.
" Please ! Someone ! Take the child away!"
" On your left, Rogers!"
Tony yells, but Loki zigzags and succeeds in escaping before anyone could grab you. Loki runs with you in his arms, his helmet on your head.
" You'll never catch us ! Nyeheheehee !"
You say in your best evil laugh and the Avengers spend the rest of the day chasing you..The End.
I'm not gonna lie. I did this for fun. I know it isn't Shakespeare, but I still love it. 😂
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mimisempai · 3 years
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You are worth so much more than the sum of your mistakes
Summary:
Mobius shows Loki that he is much more than his failures.
Last fic before the episode 03. The next one after it. But don't worry, come what may, our boys will be happy.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/32121712
1802 words - Rating G
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"Loki?" Mobius walked into his office where Loki was sitting flipping through files.
They were leaving in a few hours for Alabama in 2050.
"Yes?"
"Would you mind accompanying me to the projection room? I want to show you something."
Loki stood up and nodded.
"Let's go."
They entered the room where Loki had been viewing parts of his past and future life when he arrived at the TVA
Everything that made him a villain.
He stopped when he saw the projector on the table in the middle of the room.
"If this is to make me cruelly realize who I am, so I can keep me on a short leash before the mission, it's not worth it."
Loki turned around ready to leave the room.
"Loki, no!"
Mobius held him back by the sleeve, Loki struggled blinded by the feeling of disappointment that washed over him.
Mobius wrapped his arms around him from behind and said in his ear;
"Loki, I promise you that it is not about that. This time it's my turn to ask you to please trust me."
Loki stopped struggling and let Mobius pull him into the room and he made him sit in front of the screen.
Mobius stood behind him with his hands on his shoulders and gently asked Loki, "Do you remember what you said you were, in this very room last time?"
Loki bowed his head and whispered, "A villain."
Mobius continued, "And do you remember what I replied?"
"That this was not how you saw it."
Mobius pressed his shoulders and answered, "That's right. And I want to show you why I said that. I'm going to show you two excerpts from your past life and one from your future life.Is it okay to watch them?"
Loki just nodded.
Mobius pressed the power button and resumed his place behind Loki with his hands on his shoulders.
"I can stop anytime you want, you just have to say so."
Loki nodded again.
He saw himself and his brother in their ceremonial clothes just before Thor's enthronement.
Thor was taking his helmet presented to him by a servant.
Loki looked at him and said with a half smile, "Oh... nice feathers. "
Thor laughed wryly before replying, "You don't really want to start this again do you?
Loki protested, "I was sincere. "
"You are incapable of sincerity. "
"Am I?"
" Yes "
Loki looked at his brother with affection and replied very seriously, "I've looked forward to this day as long as you have, my brother, my friend. Sometimes I'm envious, but never doubt that I love you. "
Thor put his hand on his shoulder and said softly, "Thank you."
Loki could hardly swallow the lump that had formed in his throat.
They may have clashed often, they may have been on bad terms when Loki ran away, but Thor was the person he missed the most since he was here.
Mobius paused and stood in front of him, kneeling down to be at his level.
He simply placed his hand on Loki's arm and asked, "Do you think someone who shows such brotherly love is a villain?"
Then he stood up, not waiting for an answer and pressed play again.
The scene was happening in Odin's room.
Odin was staring thoughtfully out the window and then turned away. Frigga sat in a vanity and tried different earrings before the mirror.
Odin asked her, "Do you think he's ready?"
"He thinks he is. He has his father's confidence." answered Frigga gently.
Odin retorted,"He'll need his father's wisdom."
Friga laughed and answered impertinently, "And his humility?"
Then Frigga added, "Thor won't be alone. Loki will be at his side to give him counsel. Have faith in your sons."
Loki could not remember ever having witnessed such a scene between his mother and father. He had never imagined his parents discussing Thor and him in this way, it was strange in a way. He had felt like he was witnessing a private scene. But to hear his mother talk about him in this way was beyond comprehension.
Mobius simply said to him before the footage continued, "Do you think a villain would inspire such faith in him from his mother, who is not even of his blood, do you think a mother would put her trust in one brother to support the other if deep down she thought he was a villain?"
The question hung in the air as the video resumed.
When Loki saw the scene beginning to unfold before his eyes, he protested and wanted to stand up, "Mobius, I've seen it before, I know this is the scene where I die!"
Mobius put his hands on Loki's shoulders again and said, "Look at it again this time, please. I really think you need to see it to the end."
Loki was talking to Thanos, "If I might, interject… If you’re going to Earth, you might want a guide. I do have a bit of experience in that arena."
Thanos glared at him and replied "If you consider failure experience…"
Loki, losing none of his cockiness, answered, "I consider experience, experience. Almighty Thanos. I, Loki, Prince of Asgard… Odinson… The rightful King of Jotunheim, God of Mischief, do hereby pledge to you, my undying fidelity."
Thor squinted and noticed a dagger in Loki’s hand. Loki attempted to stab Thanos, but failed.
“Undying. You should choose your words more carefully."
Thanos tightened his hold around Loki’s neck.
Loki made eye contact with Thor before Thanos increased his force on his neck.
He struggled to articulate, "You… will never be… a god."
Thanos snapped Loki’s neck, killing him then added, "No resurrection this time." before disappearing.
Loki closed his eyes, unable to stop a tear from rolling down his cheek.
Mobius leaned over and said softly in his ear, "Loki, watch, I know it's hard, but please watch."
Thor was crying, "No… Loki…"
He was then released from his binds and crawled over to Loki’s body. He laid his head down on Loki’s chest, shedding tears.
Mobius knelt before Loki and took his hands, "Loki, after this, after many twists and turns, Thanos has lost and you played a part in his loss. Your death played a part. But more than that, after all you've been through, all the times you've faced each other, do you think Thor would have cried for you like that, if you were a villain? Loki, you are worth so much more than you think you are destined to be."
Mobius wiped away Loki's tear stain with his thumb and let his hand linger on the god's cheek.
Loki asked him in a slightly hoarse voice, "But why show me this, why would you want to convince me of the opposite of what you wanted me to recognize first."
"Oh no Loki, I never wanted you to think you were a villain, I wanted you to see that you were not the one you insist on parading to the world."
Loki protested, "But you told me I was born to cause pain and suffering and death. That's how it is, that's how it was, that's how it will be. All so that others can achieve their best versions of themselves. "
"Yes, I told you that not because I think that's what you are, I was just showing you that that's what you were limiting yourself to because you yourself think you're only capable of that. Because you want to rule so badly, that you don't see that you are made for bigger things. You asked me to trust you yesterday. I did because Loki I have faith in you and since you've been here you keep proving it. In your own way. Because you are undoubtedly the god of mischief. Unique. Not. A. Villain."
Mobius took his chin and placed a kiss on his forehead before standing up.
"I'll leave you alone for a bit, let you take some time to think about this, I'll come get you before the mission briefing." he headed for the door.
"Mobius?"
"Yes." Mobius came back to him as Loki stood up.
"I don't know why, but I really, really want to believe you."
Seeing a man as powerful as Loki, showing so much fragility and hope at the same time, Mobius thought he had never found him as magnificent as he was at that moment. He felt blessed that Loki had exposed such vulnerability to him.
"It's not an easy road, Loki, but it's worth it.It's not easy being a man, but that's why it's so wonderful when you manage to overcome the obstacles. Don't forget that you are not or no longer alone, I will be there every step of the way.  You just have to find the right direction."
Loki nodded and chuckled, "I don't know what deities decided to put you on my path, but I'm glad that it’s you."
He felt blessed that Loki would show such vulnerability.
"It's not an easy road, Loki, but it's worth it.It's not easy being a man, but that's why it's so wonderful when you manage to overcome the obstacles. Don't forget that you are not or no longer alone, I will be there every step of the way.  You just have to find the right direction."
Loki nodded and chuckled, "I don't know what deities decided to put you on my path, but I'm glad that it's you."
For once since the beginning of their strange relationship, Loki took the initiative and kissed Mobius lightly before stepping back."Go, I'll stay here for a while, a god of mischief can't show up with swollen and red eyes, there are limits to the lack of decorum."  He finished by winking at him.
Mobius chuckled before leaving.
Once the door closed, he whispered, "Me too Loki, I'm glad fate connected us."
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"Loki! Wait!"
Loki was standing in front of the portal through which the woman had just disappeared and deep down he knew he was going to have to follow her.
Not because of all the bullshit he had spouted at her just before.
Not because of his personal interests, well not only because of his personal interests. He was Loki after all.
But because of the man who was running towards him shouting.
Mobius.
Because Mobius had seen in him more than a glorious purpose.
Because even if it was for his personal interests, Mobius had needed him.
Because Mobius had made him see that he could be a better version of himself.
Because Loki was starting to believe it.
So as he turned to Mobius who was running towards him he put everything he could into his eyes.
Believe in me!
Then, reluctantly, he turned away and went through the portal.
_________
The whole serie here : The story of Loki and Mobius
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keagan-ashleigh · 3 years
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Hello tis me 👋😊
Ok so just like many people I have been following Loki's show and I have been sharing my thoughts on Twitter (look for @KeaganAsh if you want to meet me there) but, well, I thought, hey, that's been a while since I've posted something on Tumblr, and since the finale's tomorrow, well.
So. I haven't had many theories, some thoughts here and there but nothing big, but one. This is about Sylvie - it's not exactly my theory, I've seen some tweets about it and I tend to sort of agree with it: I am not 100% convinced Sylvie is actually a Loki. I think there is a possibility, a fair one, that Sylvie is the Enchantress. The actress has answered about it but in case the theory is true she can't just spoil it, and she's been vague enough so the theory still has a chance to be true.
First of all there's the name: Sylvie. Sylvie Lushton is one of the two characters that has taken the Enchantress alias, the other one being Amora.
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The two are not the same character but they have things in comon and as Sophia Di Martino said they took inspiration from Lushton but are telling a different story from the comics. That doesn't rule out the theory at all since Sylvie and Amora can have been merged into this new character we've been presented.
I'm going to introduce those characters - even if in the end I end up being wrong, which is a possibility, they're still interesting.
Sylvie Lushton is a human, who obtained the powers of Enchantress from Loki who met her when she was a teenager, in Oklahoma where she was born. His reason being, basically, he wanted to play with the life of a human, and see what will happen. With her newly gained powers she tried her chance at joining the Avengers, taking The Enchantress name and lying about being an asgardian. But she was rejected.
She later joined Coat of Arm and the Young Masters, still trying to be a hero, then was accepted by the Young Avengers before being rejected because of her bad attitude. She joined other groups until she ultimately led a villainous group and was defeated by The Defenders then led by Valkyrie, Misty Knight, Hyppolita, etc.
Her powers: she has the ability to cast illusions, to control people's minds (!), teleportation, she can transform people into animals, cast some sort of energy field, transmorgrification (changing form, often in a grotesque way)
Amora is a born asgardian, her powers have been taught to her by the Norns, especially the Queen of the Norns, Karnilla. She's been continuing her studies by seducing or stealing knowledge from mages, wizards. She associated w Brunnhilde but soon betrayed her.
She's been for a long time associated with Skurge, who was deeply in love with her.
She's notably known as Thor's love interest - more precisely, Amora fell in love with Thor, tried to seduce him but when she couldn't, asked Skurge to kill Jane Foster. She was then defeated.
Later she has been associated with Loki, Zemo, Doctor Doom, etc.
She later was forced by the Beyonder to fight on Battleworld, at some point she fought against Miss Hulk and lost. She met Thor again by that time.
[note that those are mostly characters that have an importance in the incoming mcu phase]
The Enchantress was exhiled from Asgard by Odin who was unhappy with her villainous actions. But she fought against Surtur's army, and against her sister Lorelei when she refused to fight alongside asgardians. So she casted (?) a spell on her so she fell in love with Loki.
Her story doesn't stop here but it's a long story, see the rest on Marvel wiki.
Her powers: she has the asgardian strength of course, speed, ability to fight, endurance, etc. Plus obviously she is a witch so she casts spells, throw lightning bolts, teleport, cast illusions, transform her appearance, she manipulates men by seducing them, she can use force fields and blows up things with energy she emits, she can levitate, AND not the least: she can astral project to possess other people yes !
Both Enchantresses have obviously things in comon with the show's Sylvie - including their looks. Their powers seem similar to Loki's but there is things they can do that he can't, such as what is said in Lamentis: Loki can't enchant people, not the way she does it.
Loki manipulates minds in a different way as established in Avengers, he used the scepter that multiplied his power and emotions, to control minds and unleash Avengers deep anger to awake the Hulk. In a way, that power came from him, but it's not something he really does in the movies. Initially, he can astral project, use hypsnosis, telepathy, but he doesn't possess people. I guess Sylvie is teaching him to use this power he doesn't yet control. Still, it's quite possible that this is to make us doubt, or to focus our attention on the fact that Sylvie can help him unleash his powers, and not on the fact it's fairly possible that he just doesn't have Sylvie's abilities.
There is not many differences between a Loki and an Enchantress and that makes it really easy to deceive people into believing they are the same person.
What we've seen from the show and Sylvie's past, she was taken away from Asgard by the TVA as a kid and then hid from them and ran away... But there is actually nothing that really say unequivocally, the kid we saw was Sylvie. That is the story she is telling.
Plus there this tiny detail that the kid had dark hair, while Sylvie doesn't - yep I know hair dye is a thing but that blurs the line, that creates a visual difference between those two persons. What if it's implying they're not the same ?
And there is other details, like the HUGE amount of times they use the words "enchant", " enchanting", and such. I mean. Why insist on this word, when her power can be described differently, could have used telepathy, mind manipulation, etc, but they insist on using "enchantment".
And there is the fact her first impulse when called a Loki is to reject it, perhaps with a bit more anger than necessary. Why doesn't she wants to be associated with this name? Why insisting on the fact they're two different beings and not two versions of the same person. She's the only Loki to reject being a Loki, the only one who doesn't dramatize everything, and if they have comon traits, they are very different. Even Loki points it out, they're different. They imply that's because she was taken out of her timeline befire she could learn to be Loki, but again, it'd be a very good way to mislead us.
And of course there's the fact that they make them fall in love with each other - I doubt they really are to be honest, but they make it such a point that falling for himself is sick and absurd, then what if it means he's not? Yes it IS absurd. What if that's precisely the point?
I don't care if they end up together if she is not Loki but Enchantress, Loki is still canonically bisexual no matter who they set him up with, that is a win they can't take back. But yes, if she's actually Loki, then this pairing is weird. They are different people anyway, they don't share the same timeline, the same life, the same experience, still that is weird. And perhaps it's meant to feel weird and to be questioned.
In conclusion : I am not sure this theory is right. Not at all. But I feel like there is a piece of the puzzle missing, I feel like there is a lack of an actual twist. For now there has been 2 twists (tva agents are variants and the Time Keepers are fake), but we have been told that since the beginning, we started the show with this fact that it was all bullshit so there is no surprise, we have been led from the start to the understanding that the tva was coated in lies.
I expect something more unexpected. Something that not only will give a starting point to the multiverse just as it has been announced on the medias, but also something, pretty much like the Agatha reveal in WandaVision, that will make us go back to the beginning and reconsider everything we've seen. Why not that thing be that Sylvie is the Enchantress and has been either pulling the strings or been manipulated into tricking everyone.
Maybe not. Maybe I am wrong. We'll see tomorrow, maybe not this time but next season if there is one - everything is possible. If I am wrong, no worries, it happens, but if I am right I'll be happy but not surprised. 😁
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imaginative-nerd · 2 years
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✨A love story of a villain who was never actually a villain ❤️💚✨ Episode 2
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✨A love story of a villain who was never actually a villain ❤️💚✨ Episode 2
So its been a week...and between the fights with loki and a new friendship with thor you were trying to settle in this new ambience.
But your longing for home was increasing day by day. All it was too good to be true.
One morning thor came to you..he seemed really cheerful today..
Thor - Bonjour milady!!
You - good morning...so whats new today? where are we going for todays tour?
Thor - thats why i am here for!! i have something for you..!!
It was a ravishing gown of silver colour..with some lilies on the waist line. you were amazed by the beauty of the dress.
You - Is this for me??
Thor - ofcourse!! don't you like it?
You - Like it??? i love it!!! but umm...why?? whats the occasion?
Thor - oh ya i was coming to the point... today we all celebrate "Midwinter Solstice" in the village.. its the longest night of the year and the daylight is the shortest of the year. Today we all asgardians celebrate victory of our ancestors!!
You - i am already excited!!! what kind of celebration are we talking about????
Thor - it includes drinking, feasting, songs, games, banquets, dance and much more..!
You - you got me at the drinking!!
Thor - i like the spirit!!! see you at dusk!! don't be late!!
So it was time to go to the celebration...you were excited but also a little nervous..you put on your attire and stepped out of the palace... there it was ....A beautiful horse wagon waiting for you to take you to the party.
when you reached the village you were mesmerized by the beauty of the town. All those lightings, music and happy people dancing around you...felt like a dream...
when you were setting your foot in ... there he was again with glass of whiskey in his hands looking handsome in his leather suit...as usual green and black...eyes blue like ocean...but with a hint of cunningness!
You - ohhh shit
Loki - excuse me? is this a way to greet a god????
You - my bad...hello Mr. Loki! (with a little sarcasm)
Loki - is that it?
You - ohh darling its more than what you DESERVE!
Loki - how dare you!
You - how dare i? i'll tell you why...i have been homesick since i got on this planet....and i was already freaking out about it and you are making it worse since i got here!!! all you say to me is get back to your wretched planet...you stupid human...and that i am below you....blah blah blah blah....
you know what mr. loki....i don't even want to stay!!!!!!!! and you might be a god but it wouldn't be the end of the world if you'll say one nice word to me!!!
Tears starts to fill up in your eyes ...but you stayed steady as a rock.
Loki - Well ummmm.... nevermind ...stop whining and let me enjoy my night! (with a wink)
he was heading towards the bar...you followed him ..
You - wait!!! i am not done yet!
Loki - (looking back while walking) as if i care?
then you saw thor near the feast table.. you changed your way and headed towards him.
Thor - ODIN'S BEARD !! you...you look... BREATHTAKING!!!
You - i am honoured!
Thor - enjoying the night?
You - it was a rough start...but now yes!
Thor - Loki again?
You - duhhhhh
Thor - i have plan to trick him..
You - tricking the trickster god? ohhh i am so in.... finally the nights getting good!!...no wait mind boggling goooddd!!!!
Thor - so here's the plan...there is a tradition of the first dance ...and loki hates dancing in public like this...but he is very respectful to the traditions...
You - i doubt that (smirking)
Thor - i am not done yet
You - ya sorry continue
Thor - so the tradition is...one couple will do the first dance...and to select the couple there is gonna be a bowl full of chits with names of the royal people...and loki never puts his name in it...we are gonna change the bowl in which all the chits will have the name "Loki"!! and he will never say no.. because being disrespectful to our traditions...no he would never do that...as this would piss off my father
You - really?? making him dance ... that's your plan? (rolling eyes)
Thor - believe me ...dance at a joyous event...with the common people!!..as you know he thinks he is the superior...this will be the most humiliating thing for him.
You - well ...then i am in!!!!!
You and thor got everything arranged as per your plan...and now it was time for the first dance!... Loki entered with a glass of whiskey.
You were gazing at him...a different feeling was tickling down your spine...he looked different...those eyes filled with cunningness were replaced with innocence and pain. You started feeling distressed about all your plans to trick him. embarrassing him infront of everyone..this thought was now troubling you. and now all you wanted to do was to stop all this. but it was too late....
While all these emotions were starting to sink in, a random villager announced - "and now it is time for the first dance"
(after shuffling the chits he picked one from the bowl)
"LOKI..!!!!!!!"
Loki was staring at his glass ...as the villager announced his name...he was stunned...but fear of not pissing the father anymore made him come forward.
he was now standing in between the crowd not knowing what to do... musicians started playing some old asgardian music.
and don't know what came to your mind...you started stepping towards him...you took his hand and placed it on your waist...and you placed your hand on his shoulder with a firm grip...you hold his other hand tightly and started swaying.
he was trying to match his steps with yours.
After some minutes everyone started to join in...loki was starring at you innocently...there was silence ...but it was like you both were chatting with your eyes.
After a while...he said clearing his throat..
Loki - so ummm...this was your idea to humiliate me? try harder human.
You - actually it was thor's ...but i stepped in too...
Loki - then why did you join me?
You - I don't know... it was just a instinct..
Loki - don't you dare to show pity for me human..i am...
You - ya ya ...you loki...prince of asgard...trickster god.
Loki - .....
You - can i ask you something?
Loki - NO
You - i'll ask anyway...so ummm... nobody forced you to do this dance...you could have easily walked out ... why did you come forward?
Loki - coz its the tradition
You - are you afraid of your tradition?
Loki - no
You - then why i saw fear in your eyes?
Loki stepped back leaving your hand.
You - i am sorry..i shouldn't have said that.
Loki left in confusion...he was so confused..as no one was ever able to read his eyes like this before...he started heading towards the woods.
You were confused too... Maybe because you couldn't figure out why you were worried about a man who has been nothing but mean to you...
then you started following him... into the woods.
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nineherbscharm · 4 years
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Runemarks characters as dril tweets
Maddy Smith: "This Whole Thing Smacks Of Gender," i holler as i overturn my uncle's barbeque grill and turn the 4th of July into the 4th of Shit
Adam Scattergood: "im not owned! im not owned!!", i continue to insist as i slowly shrink and transform into a corn cob
Sugar-and-Sack: the doctor reveals my blood pressure is 420 over 69. i hoot & holler outta the building while a bunch of losers try to tell me that im dying
Nat Parson: blocked. blocked. blocked. youre all blocked. none of you are free of sin
Ethelberta Parson: it is with a heavy heart that i must announce that the celebs are at it again
Dorian Scattergood: THE COP GROWLS "TAKE OFF TH OSE JEANS, CITIZEN." I COMPLY, REVEALING THE FULL LENGTH DENIM TATTOOS ON BOTH LEGS. THE COP SCREAMS; DEFEATED
Nan Fey: "if theres a spicy brown mustard, why not a spicy brown ketchup?"
The wise man smiled.
"my friend, the condiment you seek is Barbecue Sauce"
Examiner 4421974: another day volunteering at the betsy ross museum. everyone keeps asking me if they can fuck the flag. buddy, they wont even let me fuck it
Odin: joke's on you; i actually love being body slammed by one dozen perfect wrestlers. and my mouth isn't filled with bloodm, it's victory wine
Loki: the jduge orders me to take off my anonymous v mask & im wearing the joker makeup underneath it. everyone in the courtroom groans at my shit
Frigg: going to start asking "What do you Think?" at the end of each post, to help stimulate discourse and reap the substantial benefits of Social.
Thor: im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
Tyr: its fucked up how there are like 1000 christmas songs but only 1 song aboutr the boys being back in town
Sif: the way i see it, people who come on here and submit content that is not up to par, could possibly be considered the "Villains" of this site
Balder: THERAPIST - your problem is, that youre perfect, and everyone is jealous of your good posts, and that makes you rightfully upset.
ME - I agree
Skadi: fuck "jokes". everything i tweet is real. raw insight without the horse shit. no, i will NOT follow trolls. twitter dot com. i live for this
Heimdall: i regret being tasked the emotional burden of maintaining the final bastion of morality and NIce manners in this endless ocean of human SHIT
Idun: installing a full scale maypole in my backyard... just thinking the boys are going to love this shit
Bragi: MAKE NO MISTAKE》i Appreciate the flawless, invaluable wisdom posted to us by the celebs, and they, in turn, appreciate my valuable feed back
Njord: the only reason my ex wife wants half of my shit is because i smothered my beautiful bald ass in ink and stamped the divorce papers with it
Frey: look at all these pitiful toads shamelessly seeking validation, unlike me, seeking validation in a cool, disaffected sort of way
Freyja: strongest blade in the world, howeve,r it is so fragile as to shatter when handled by any force other than the delicate touch of a lesbian .
Mimir: the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: "theres actually zero difference between good & bad things. you imbecile. you fucking moron"
Hel: if your grave doesnt say "rest in peace" on it you are automatically drafted into the skeleton war
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I will try to answer your questions in parts:
✔️Is this the same grandmaster from Ragnarok?
🔸Yes he is the same, although in Thor Ragnarok they did not reveal his real poders, except when they say that he is one of the "Originals"
✔️Do you have any theories about the grandmaster?
🔸Yes, I have some theories and in other post I will talk about them
✔️You said Nemisis would be a villain if she was resurrected, right? Why is that?
Well...
🔸The Ego Gem is the seventh Infinity Stone, hidden in an unknown realm known as the Ultraverse in the Marvel Comics Universe. Infinity War explains the Infinity Stones were created by the Big Bang that gave birth to the universe. In the comics, the seven Infinity Stones were actually held within a single omnipotent being called  Nemesis who grew tired of her existence and willed herself to shatter into the six Infinity Stones, with the seventh stone holding her consciousness
The comics do not explain the Ego Stone’s power in great detail, saying only that it’s very powerful and that there was a time it took possession of a former Avenger named Sersi. When the Ego Stone comes into contact with the other Infinity Stones, Nemesis will be reborn
Loki and the Grandmaster had entered the Ultraverse in pursuit of the missing Infinity Stones. Loki secured the Mind Stone. Grandmaster, though, found Sersi with the other Infinity Stones along with the shocking revelation that there was a seventhInfinity Stone
He and Loki then entered into one of those classic deals on behalf of Loki (the Ultraforce) and Grandmaster (the Avengers)..
After they fought and Loki won.
This was another trick Loki, (I'll tell you this in another post if you want) he said that if the Grandmaster had not won he had not lost so this forced the Grandmaster to deliver the seventh stone
Loki was "given" Sersi, but it turned out that Sersi was actually possessed by the mystery seventh Infinity Stone!
After she wiped the floor with the other heroes, she then gave up her possession of Sersi and revealed itself as a now sentient combination of the seven Infinity Stones as a being known as Nemesis! Nemesis then seemingly destroyed the Ultraverse!
The heroes eventually unmerged and then the two groups teamed up in a massive attack on Nemesis to try to get her to put right what she had put wrong. She was a bit of a heady new god, though, and her instinct was to just destroy this plane of existence period, but Black Knight essentially sacrificed himself to break up the new combined Nemesis into her composite Infinity Stones..
In another post I will tell the story of Sersi, but from what I understand in this story, Nemesis was not on the side of the good guys.
✔️And about Adam Warlok...
🔸It is a very interesting story because he was one of the bearers of the Soul Stone and took many souls into it, even he fought with the Avengers against Thanos when the Titan tried to put out the stars. Finally he entered the Soul Stone and discovered the World- Gem and became the leader of the souls that lived there ... I like this for a new theory
(I do not think Marvel plans to includeso new characters in Endgame and we already know that MCU does not follow the line of the Comics but is inspired by many of their stories so everything could happen)
I hope I have answered your questions
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Ok, can you imagine the promotion before loki! Hope Tom gets do an interviews with puppies.
wandavision had cool posters and interviews plus the q&a so I’m hoping as we get closer to the release we’ll get more information about the other characters and more hints to what the show is about :D 
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