#but on the other hand: gay pirates

[alltheusernamesaretaken24]

Having a good amount of blorbos and then enjoying a new show… and then suddenly you are faced with the problem of having Too Many Blorbos and Too Many Ideas…

#on one hand i have the ‘Zim is a Rockstar and Dib’s Character Arc is Becoming a Malewife’ fic #and on the other i have ‘Stede is aware that everything he does is a major fuck up: let’s make a character study out of it!’ #fic #not to mention i have. so much art #ive kinda not wanted to post much lately though which is fine #you don’t have to post your art for it to be valuable psa #i havent had to balance two fandoms like this in a while #like i still love iz and figuring out all the little crumbs canon left us so much #but on the other hand: gay pirates #it’s like when i slowly started to fall out of love with moomins :( not for any reason i just got all my serotonin from iz instead #but the resurgence is gone i think #like every time i open ao3 and search for fics it’s like #*cracks knuckles* i am not finding anything in here so it is time to make what i want to see #which happens to be dib becoming Zim’s rockstar malewife #why? i do not know #we can’t explain what makes us happy only the happiness #me just rambling #rambling in the tags

[edscuntyeyeshadow]

izzy talking to ed in episode 10 always wrecks me cause the way he’s talking to him is literally how homophobic parents/relatives treat me all the time. “I should have let is English kill you” translation: “it would be better if you were dead and cishet than alive and queer”. Izzy pointing to a hypermasculine version of ed and insisting that that’s who ed actually is. Izzy being convinced that stede “did something” to ed, when ed has always been softer (queer) deep down, he just hasn’t been able to express it. pretty sure a lot of us know someone who’s told us that a friend/college/the internet or some other outside source made us queer. they just don’t fucking get it

#im way too emotional today #in other words: edward teach is literally me #ofmd #our flag means death #our flag means gay #gay pirates #gentlebeard #stede bonnet #blackbeard #edward teach #izzy hands #homophobia #transphobia #queerphobia #loving edward teach hours

[gabichanwrites]

Imagine you have a character, a broken, vicious man who bites and spits venom even at a person he loves the most, who pushes the buttons of his love just because this toxic familiarity is all he knows, just because it's all he feels safe doing. And then his love finds another person who brings out such a different part of them, a part this character never could or maybe just long forgot how to do. He drowns in jealousy, in his bitternes, he hurts his love, he hurts his love's beloved, their crew... And finally gets what he wanted. Finally has his Blackbeard back, finally can forget about the part of Ed he can no longer reach... But suddenly Blackbeard is unpredictable even to this character.

And suddenly everything changes as he slips and can no longer even enjoy the familiar toxicity because he saw something better and kinder and selfishly wishes for it too, despite it all. And suddenly he understands people around him, people who never saw the evil in Edward, and suddenly he realizes it's his fault. All of it, just a part of it - doesn't matter. He caused this and nobody is happy, not even him.

And then, despite everything, others start to care for him. They tell him "We think you're in a toxic relationship" as if they didn't know it was him who brought Blackbeard back and they hug him tight as if he wasn't the once to sentence them to this horror and they hold his hand when he panics. They experience kindness and hope in a miserable place, maybe a glimpse of what made Blackbeard so soft for a moment there. And when everything falls apart, when he takes the final tumble in this horrible dance he has with Blackbeard, somebody is there to hold him up. Somebody is there to criticize his drinking and make him a new leg and call him their unicorn. The character is "their bastard", he is part of them. He is part of something kind and accepting and he shyly embraces the new familarity-that-might-be, even when he still insults and retreats and bottles stuff up because maybe if he seems fine he can help others, maybe in the end he can be loved in a way as kind as theirs. Maybe he can have a family.

So once they are again in danger he takes the chance and speaks boldly and captures the ominous attention of the enemy. He takes a risk for them. He takes a bullet for it. He rests in the arms of his love and tells him he's sorry even when he could never accept the other's apology. He never gets the chance to try more and forgive more and try to be forgiven more. He can only ever serve as a tool for another character, can never evolve to existing on his own, to healing on his own.

You are Izzy Hands. You are drowning in your mistakes and the toxic familiarity you're too afraid to get out of. And once you dare to try...

The show would rather have you die than give you a chance at healing and happiness.

Your death doesn't prove a point and it doesn't mean anything. It's just cruel.

#Izzy hands #yes i am dramatic #yes i may be a spoilsport #whatever i am is also so incredibly bitter #because the way this story ended is disrespectful to us all #because even if we never fell as low as Izzy #this is still Our Flag Means Death #the show which never gave a damn about historical accuracy or brutal reality #a sit-com about silly gay pirates who get to joke and adventure and open up to each other and heal #so why does a character who has only just begun healing in any way has to die #what is the point? #why can't he leave the stage with the rest of his crew-family #finally opening up to them? #why does Ed and Stede deserve a happy ending but not Izzy? #ofmd #ofmd critical #i wish it wasn't

[highfantasy-soul]

Dipping my toe into the ofmd s2 finale discourse, so spoilers

Also, if the finale really hurt you and you feel like the writers made an unforgivable decision, then...maybe don't read this and comment all upset? This is just how I viewed the finale, so not saying you've got to be ok with it, but like, also let me feel what I feel too... anyways, disclaimers over.

I think it's such a cool parallel how each of the captain's first-mates went out in very thematically consistent ways to the way they and their captains started out.

Stede was a mythical being - a muppet - a wooden doll who wished to be a real boy. He was firmly in the silly fantasy category of being - nothing he did had any logic (hello sea library that didn't even have little bars to hold his books in place, hello orange cake that used 40 oranges for just the glaze alone) he was sparkly vibes and failing upward through sheer luck (or magic). At the start of Stede's journey, Buttons is there to remind him what piracy is like - mutiny if you aren't a good captain, chewing people's throats out if need be. But Buttons was also there to stare into the sky and feel what was to happen rather than always using data to support his findings.

But Stede wanted to be a hardened pirate.

Ed was Blackbeard - a bloodthirsty, merciless, pirate. A man who was only allowing a single part of himself to be shown/explored. His crew was fiercely loyal, they respected him, and he was taken seriously - because he got shit done through logical actions - logic that Izzy largely influenced. There were always real consequences for Ed and his crew and that's exactly how Izzy liked it. Ed was fascinated by the way Stede and his crew operated in the world and Izzy was horrified by it - you didn't get to be a successful pirate by being a muppet! You got it through blood and struggle - forging your family along the way. You didn't buy your family with a salary and pep talks and you DO NOT WIN DUELS by being so bad at swordplay you let your opponent stab you so their blade gets stuck in the mast and you can win by a technicality!

But Ed wanted to release some of his control and let the whimsy in.

So the characters change throughout the seasons - Stede becomes a 'real boy' and starts to grapple with figuring this stuff out with grit rather than wishful thinking, Ed realizes that the pirate's life isn't making him happy and needs to make a bigger change. Buttons is ready to chew people's throats out with his metal teeth in episode 1, and through the series, he retreats more into the mystical as Stede no longer needs even a hint of his traditionally pirate ways. Izzy realizes Ed doesn't need his harsh advice, it's actually harming him, and Izzy is allowed to release his firm grip on gritty nihilism and explore different parts of himself.

As Stede and Ed grow into their own people, they grow away from what their first-mates need, so their first mates get to truly become themselves. Their trajectories, however, follow the way they lived and what they valued.

Buttons transforms into a bird, being reborn into a new body where he can fully embrace the mysticism without even a hint of gritty reality.

Izzy, he goes out the way he lived - bloody, in battle, the way a pirate 'should'. He went through a transformation as well - one that stayed in line with his character.

To me, it was clear that different characters played by different rules of reality than others - Buttons was a mystical sea witch, Izzy was a gritty 'realistic' pirate.

Buttons became more distant with the crew as he retreated into his mystical being. Izzy grew closer with the crew as he embraced the joys of found family rather than the ever-dangerous life at sea. He embraced the here and now, he embraced - and faced - reality.

Buttons transfigured into a bird because that's how he lived (and how Stede started out) - as a mystical being of the sea, so that is the form his metamorphosis took.

Izzy died in battle because that's how he lived (and how Blackbeard started out) - as a loyal pirate who would fight to the very end, so that's the form his metamorphosis took.

I viewed Button's story as a smaller-scaled foreshadowing of the final episode.

As Izzy's death took place at the end of the season, there was no narrative time to hash out everyone's emotions over it - just like at the end of season 1, they didn't have time to hash out everyone's emotions at Stede leaving them (though with the extended episode count, they did manage to get a bit more in there). Clearly, Season 3 is going to be massively shaped by Izzy's death - just as season 2 was shaped by Ed and Stede's breakup.

We don't know how the writers are going to go forward with the story, and honestly, I don't enjoy speculating on how plot lines are going to be written. But from the writer's comments, it seems to me like there's a good possibility Izzy will still be in the show - and now he's literally buried his past self and is ready for the next iteration of Izzy Hands.

#i understand how some people didn't like a major character death in their funny pirate show but i don't think it was bad writing #I don't think the writers tricked anyone into a false sense of security and I don't think they did it out of malice #i certainly don't think it was a case of killing your gays #of course Izzy had more life to live - everyone who dies of anything other than old age does #i would have loved to see him get to really embrace his joyful life for longer but just because a death hurts doesn't mean its bad writing #every writing decision is a DECISION - everything is 'unnecessary' - that's not a valid excuse for not killing off a character #izzy had a full and in-depth story and if was beautiful #he wasn't killed off for a cheap emotional trip #anyways I'll stop rambling #ofmd #ofmd season 2 #ofmd spoilers #ofmd s2 spoilers #our flag means death #our flag means death spoilers #izzy hands #izzy #stede bonnet #ed teach #buttons #blackbeard

[potholefullofsoup]

girl he owned slaves

#look i liked s1 of ofmd and blogged extensively about it at the time. but i am sick of hearing abt pirate hamilton- #-and this fucking uwu soft gay fictionalization of an ACTUAL REAL LIFE GUY WHO ENSLAVED OTHER REAL HUMAN PEOPLE. COME ON #also fandom brainrot on a post that had literally nothing to do with said fandom #(i do still reblog izzy hands but that’s for Fuck That Old Man Friday [which is every day btw]) #the thing speaks

[paramouradrift]

Me, preparing to look at my J&R draft: oh god it's going to be awful I'll have to delete everything to fit with the new outline oh god

Me, looking at the outline:

Me, still looking: okay.

Me, still looking:

Me, still looking: okay.

So I don't need to douse my deeply, deeply neglected draft document with agent orange. I can still use most of it. Which is good! It means, once I recover from my post-fic-completion doldrum I'll be able to turn around and update J&R quickly.

#j&r #h&v #atla #fanfic #zukka #writing #zuko is a gay pirate #but it's like #now i have to reorient myself to a very different zuko #to the one i just spent the last month writing #but on the other hand #gay panic zuko #bi panic sokka #delicious #nutritious #part of this balanced breakfast

[leatherbookmark]

oh god okay i understand that maybe not everyone is as indecisive/comfortable with saying "it depends!" as me, but like, i'm sorry, i'm sorry, but i just can't take people who call izzy a villain seriously

#he's a little annoying dude. i swear to fuck #'the real villain in the show is the system and izzy is siding with the system' babygirl he's a pirate 😭 he really isn't 😭 #he could NOT more clearly be -- he literally IS -- that kind of gay man who wears his leathers and anger as an armor because being scary ha #been his way of fighting The System => being consumed and destroyed by it; and who looks down and feels disgusted by flamboyant #and effeminate soft-handed gays because if they're this soft then they clearly haven't experienced this kind of abuse that would make them #harden up. ....you know what i mean. #like idk this show in general like... doesn't have a 'villain'? it's about stede (and ed's) journey and their development. not necessarily #about their Conflict With Someone/Something. i guess it might change in s2 but idk. there are just Situations in which they find themselves #and because of/md is a comedy no one really... holds things against other characters in a long-term way? izzy stabs stede and sells him #out to the english and ed punches him for the latter (which he says 'ok fair' about!!! like!!!) but does he go 'and for all the shit you've #done i'm Firing you as my first mate? no! he slams him against the wall and feeds him his toe but he's like. ok get up and back to work #and he doesn't seem particularly disgusted or upset with him in that final blackbeard's flag 2.0 moment. (nor manipulated; inb4) #like. it's a workplace romcom. the workplace is a pirate ship but it's a workplace and izzy is that annoying coworker who's a bitch and #often ruins everyone's fun but no one like... Seriously ostracizes him. more like applies some light bullying BECAUSE IT'S FUNNY. #COMEDY. do we remember that? #and like. it seems he's going to have a bit of a larger (?) role in s2... it really doesn't seem like the show sees him as a 'villain' or #even an active 'antagonist' either. like ok let's agree 2 disagree and may both sides block each others' asses into oblivion because god #knows both sides have some annoying people but mannnn sometimes... insisting that things Can be divided into Good and Bad... is worse? #shrimp thoughts #once again i wrote a tag novel about an incredibly silly thing. welcome to leatherbookmark

[secretmellowblog]

Hi! Have you watched The Gay Pirate Show (aka Our Flag Means Death)?

There’s great representation, cool costumes, complex characters and fascinating symbolism, of course, but I was asking because I’ve read all of your Javert character analysis.

I’ve noticed there’s an insane ammount of parallels to be made with Javert and the character of Izzy Hands (like their devotion to a flawed concept, lack of identity when said concept is taken away, inability to accept change in themselves and others, etc.)

So yeah! Really interesting stuff and I needed to share it with someone or I was gonna explode thank you

Sorry this got lost in my drafts for a bit! My thoughts after finally finishing the show: Honestly at first I didn't see what you meant about the Javert parallels, but after thinking about it I was like "ok I get it now, you make Points, Izzy makes me Understand why there's so much Valvert fanfic. " XD They're both obsessed with making everyone conform to Traditional Social Roles even when those roles are actively harmful to everyone including themselves. They obsess over upholding hierarchies while refusing to care about the human cost. And it’s tragic because the hierarchy they’re upholding is one where they themselves AREN’t in power; they’re upholding a hierarchy where they’re an underling whose role is to obey.

And then there’s a guy in a position of power over them (Valjean/Edward) who's supposed to follow a violent social script (as a mayor/captain/convict/pirate/etc). BUT that guy wants to be more gentle than someone in his role is "supposed" to be, he wants to be kinder than someone in that role is "allowed" to be. So Izzy/Javert both become uhhhhhhh interestingly Passionate about convincing the handsome strong man to stop being so gentle and Punish them like they Deserve. They scorn his kindness, deride his gentleness, demand that he act according to his place in the hierarchy, and want him to violently pin them against a wall and cut their throats. Kinky fanfic ensues.

....Though there's tons of differences between them obviously. XD In OFMD Izzy is explicitly Like That in large part because he's sublimating his sexual desires-- it's made pretty clear in the show that because Izzy lives in a culture where violence is the only "acceptable" form of intimacy between men, he channels all his desire for intimacy into a desire for being treated violently. Which again is kinda tragic in its own way. In Les Mis it's more like…"Javert is an authoritarian train wreck who doesn’t interact with other human beings as human beings— he treats everyone as symbols of their social roles who are obligated to always act according to their position in the hierarchy. He short circuits if someone stops ‘following the proper script”— even (or especially) if they’re doing it to be kind to him.” But queer readings of him can be interesting/fun when they’re done well too.

But yeah I guess my point is: both Izzy and Javert need to retire and stop self-destructively enforcing these Bad systems that hurt everyone including themselves :P. I mentioned before that my dream Javert redemption arc is him quitting his job after his ACAB realization and becoming a gardener, and honestly, I think Gardener Izzy would be really fun too. Just angry horrible dudes getting a new start, furiously planting flowers and learning self-care. I just think it would be funny

Tl:DR: you make Points and I can’t believe I didn’t make the connection til you pointed it out XD

#Les mis #javert #i was just looking through my old drafts before bed and found this! #but yeah a lot of valvert stuff I’ve seen around is very “Izzy and Ed’ I gotta say #I'm not really a big Izzy Hands enjoyer though #he's fun! but im not as into him as other people #Im basic but ed and stede were my favorite little guys #they're just little pirate dudes! #and they are gay #Also Jim and Oluwande are adorable #but yee. #i love ofmd though I don’t plan to talk about it a lot here

[ladyluscinia]

I do acknowledge that I am biased in Izzy Hands' favor because, as a media consumer, I am also coming from his (and Edward's) old genre.

I like shows where things are understood despite being unspoken, where characters can do bad things that also make perfect sense in their situation, and where love is a messy, sharp thing with teeth. And I like both when love isn't enough - when it destroys you, when you prove your love by dying for it - and when it is - when it's broken and it bleeds but characters work it out anyway because they can't fathom the alternative.

If I had watched a version of OFMD without Izzy Hands then I would have thought it was good and entertaining, but I would not have cared that much about it. Maybe a few thoughts on Edward, but he would be much less intriguing without the window Izzy gives into his past. Probably a lot more straightforward with the whole fake violent persona hiding a soft marshmallow person inside (which if you have seen anything I've posted / reblogged you will know that interpretation is not at all what I subscribe to).

But instead this show gave me a character is living on the knife edge of that intoxicating blend of love / hurt / devotion / betrayal / divorce / fear of abandonment / etc. AND somehow going through it despite the muppety rules that control everyone and everything else on screen, and I'm completely hooked.

#our flag means death #just putting some thoughts in order #it just takes me by surprise every time people are like 'how could you like izzy when there are so many other characters?' #(or worse - suggest it could *only* be because of hot white guy syndrome) #like fundamentally he is a wildly different style of character and there's nothing comparable if that's what you are after #and i suspect izzy would be a *protagonist* in his old genre. he's not nearly as villainous outside of something as low stakes as a romcom #combine that with how many people watched for 'canon gay rep' or 'pirates' reasons (who may not be typical romcom enjoyers) #and you've got a recipe for a breakout character (the excellent acting is just another point in his favor) #izzy hands ofmd #genre fuckery #ladyluscinia

[ourflagmeansgayrights]

iam so bad at answering asks im sorry

#mine #not gay pirates #got that ''hello from a twitter migrant who are ur follow forevers'' ask #and it's been days and im like ''yeah i'll get to that'' #there are a handful of asks abt stede being a dumb bitch which i love #and others. im getting to them. hnnnnnnngngmm

[1pcii]

I can't believe I'm being endeared to zo/suke as much as I am considering I generally dislike sasuke shipping as he tends to be used as nothing BUT a shipping vessel. but honestly an anti-government pirate/swordsman boyfriend would be so good for his whole deal in a vacume...

#like most of my sasuke ships are characters that either missing nin or... neji 'slave revolt' hyuuga #so a pirate honestly would work with his personal ideals which is what matters most to me #not to mention the similarities they have #both swordsmen. both like onigiri and hate sweet things. intoverted. loving. selfless. both gay. both my favoritest character ever #there's also conflict you could find here too. they both have an unhealthy obsession with becoming stronger for differing reasons #sasuke's as primarily a self-preservation matter as despite konoha's claims of safety he was constantly being targeted and attacked by his #abusive brother #and to an extent for the sake of protecting those he loves. this isn't shown as much however because he has #had to distance himself from them all because of itchi's 5 step lifeplan for him #zoro on the other hand similarly obsessed because of his need to be able to protect his crew #I feel sasuke would feed into zoro's protective instinct and zoro would feed into his competitive one #they could be so doomed yaoi when you think about it #like I get the vision now #my knee jerk negative reaction was a purely emotional one built from the sanctity of my lavender marriage w sasuke but I get it #psii.txt #nightblogging #<- being so literal rn it's 3am I have an exam Tommorow. all the clichés so I'm on here saying unhinged shit 😭 #sorry sasuke

[vinceaddams]

Early 18th (and late 17th) century fashions are so under-utilized in vampire media and I think it's a damn shame.

I don't actually think I've ever seen a single image of a vampire character in an early 18th century suit. Hardly any movies set in that era either, and hardly any historical costumers who do it. (Even my beloved gay pirate show set in 1717 takes nearly all of its 18th century looks from the second half of the century. Not enough appreciation for baroque fashion!!)

Yes I love late 18th century fashion as much as anyone, and 19th century formal suits are all very well and good, but if you want something that says old, dead, wealthy, and slightly dishevelled, then the 1690's-1730's are where it's at.

(Retrato del Virrey Alencastre Noroña y Silva, Duque de Linares, ca. 1711-1723.)

There was so much dark velvet, and so many little metallic buttons & buttonholes. Blood red linings were VERY fashionable in this era, no matter what the colour of the rest of the suit was.

(Johann Christoph Freiherr von Bartenstein by Martin van Meytens the Younger, 1730's.)

The slits on the front of the shirts are super low, they button only at the collar, and it's fashionable to leave most of the waistcoat unbuttoned so the shirt sticks out, as seen in the above portraits.

(Portrait of Anne Louis Goislard de Montsabert, Comte de Richbourg-le-Toureil, 1734.)

Waistcoats are very long, coats are very full, and the cuffs are huge. But the sleeves are on the shorter side to show off more of that shirt, and the ruffles if it has them! Creepy undead hands with long nails would sit so nicely under those ruffles.

(1720's-30's, LACMA)

Embroidery designs are huge and chunky and often full of metallic threads, and the brocade designs even bigger.

(1730's, V&A, metal and silk embroidery on silk satin.)

Sometimes they did this fun thing where the coat would have contrasting cuffs made from the same fabric as the waistcoat.

(Niklaus Sigmund Steiger by Johann Rudolf Huber, 1724.)

Tell me this look isn't positively made for vampires!

(Portrait of Jean-Baptiste de Roll-Montpellier, 1713.)

(Yeah I am cherry-picking mostly red and black examples for this post, and there are plenty of non-vampire-y looking images from this time, but you get the idea!)

And the wrappers (at-home robes) were also cut very large, and, if you could afford it, made with incredible brocades.

(Portrait of a nobleman by Giovanni Maria delle Piane, no date given but I'd guess maybe 1680's or 90's.)

(Circle of Giovanni Maria delle Piane, no date given but I'd guess very late 17th or very early 18th century.)

Now that looks like a child who's been stuck at the same age for a hundred years if I ever saw one!

I don't know as much about the women's fashion from this era, but they had many equally large and elabourate things.

(1730's, Museo del Traje.)

(Don't believe The Met's shitty dating, this is a robe volante from probably the 1720's.)

(Mantua, c. 1708, The Met. No idea why they had to be that specific when they get other things wrong by entire decades but ok.)

(Portrait of Duchess Colavit Piccolomini, 1690's.)

(Maria van Buttinga-van Berghuys by Hermannus Collenius, 1717.)

Sometimes they also had these cute little devil horn hair curls that came down on either side of the forehead.

(Viago in drag Portrait of a lady, Italian School, c. 1690.)

Enough suave Victorian vampires, I want to see Baroque ones! With huge wigs and brocade coat cuffs so big they go past the elbow!

#long post #vampires #fashion #history #18th century #17th century #someday. SOMEDAY I will make a black/red/dark orange/metallic gold 1720's suit #I've got nearly all the materials I just need to: #1. Learn how to make early 18th century metallic thread buttons‚ preferably without having to buy the super expensive kind of thread #2. get a wig and style it appropriately

[greatshell-rider]

“...[Sponge] was sitting in the tack room mending a headstall. He’d been doing that all winter. He looked just like his father, so sober and intent on his work. Older than his years. But then Hadand told him that Inda had arrived, and he leaped up, and his face changed into a boy’s face. Full of joy. I’ve never in my life seen such a transformation. He dashed out, running so fast he crashed into a wall. But he just laughed and ran on.”

Hadand realized something she’d been peripherally aware of for half a year: Inda was the only person who crossed in and out of that invisible space Evred surrounded himself with. Inda didn’t even seem to be aware of it. But Hadand could not imagine anyone else daring to hit Evred on the arm.

“Inda needs it,” Barend said. “Then Inda should have come and got it,” Fox retorted. Barend shut up.

have a few more gay ass bitches (feat. fox)

#tau's talk with joret is really funny he just realizes 'oh shit my yaska is evred but he's actually a king i gotta do something about that' #and so shows back up at the castle with theater plays and poking most every button evred has sheerly cuz he gets turned on when evred's mad #anyway #tau = easily one of the most guys ever <3 #tau trade offer: you receive: real good sex. the kingdom receives: not collapsing due to your 'hope-driven self-destruction' over inda #i said anyway but im not done tau and evred's whole thing is just great #this post wasn't even about tau and evred lmaooo #here here's a tag actually for evred and inda. ahem #sponge with brain damage: weeeeeeeeee inda!! #and for the fox quote i still firmly believe that fox's primary bastard-ness in regards to the pirate treasure is cuz he's butthurt over #inda not meeting up with him to get it. fox is like evred in that he'd do most anything for inda but unlike evred resents that heavily sldkf #he just misses inda soooooooooo much smh #but yeah it was good inda didn't come cuz fox needed a nice wake up call and ramis handing his ass to him certainly helped ! #oh also i think why evred and fox are both Like This (in such a similar fashion) is cuz they're both aro gay and that gayness is specificall #specifically just for inda #inda who is straight #fox's specific brand of gay for inda is very interesting tho more interesting than evred's a lotta times. i gotta think on it more tbh #chiri: could be studying bio or aviation or astronomy or japanese or other interests. also chiri: but what about those gay fuckin idiots!) #anyways for realsies #sartorias-deles #inda quartet #gay ass bitch #<-- nearly forgot The Tag lmao

[henry-fox-biggest-stan]

nico is a ghost, nico is gay, nico is a practicing pagan, nico is autistic, nico is antigone-coded, nico is enveloped by death (ghosts, grief, memories haunting him, the life he left behind one more ghost enveloping him, he spends time in the underworld because death is all he remembers and all he really has), nico is mediterranean, nico is from the 30s, nico has depression, nico is sentimental, nico is a crier, nico both self-isolates and is isolated by other people, nico is resilient, nico has a weird relationship with food, nico gets along the best with people also left out, nico is self destructive, nico’s love is bigger than himself and that’s his fatal flaw, nico was always meant to be a tragic character, no matter what in his storyline changed, no matter if Bianca never died and they never went to the lotus hotel, nico is strawberries, nico has freckles, nico has visited several countries and probably met people in all of them, nico is humans by big thief, nico is alien by lebanon hanover, nico has suffered from internalized homophobia, nico is from venice, nico has lost all the memories of the life he originally had and was supposed to keep, nico wants to be liked, to belong, but he’s been pushed away for so long he began believing he didn’t belong, nico yearns, nico cares about the dead, nico knows all about death and it’s rituals, nico is an inmigrant, nico is dead to the government, nico wanted to be a pirate, nico grew up catholic, nico refuses to do anything than might make himself look vulnerable to other people, nico is amazing with swords, nico is currently 15, nico was homeless for years, nico was the first person to go to Tartarus and come out alive, and he did it by choice, nico is willingly to risk his life to save someone else’s, nico will spend the rest of his life mourning a girl no one remembers, who has no grave or place in the underworld, who nico will eventually forget parts of, her face, her voice, because he has no photos of, but a love than will never fade, nico belongs in another time, nico refuses to lose his humanity, nico has been burned too many times, and now doesn’t even try to fit in, nico wears all black both because he likes it but also because he’s mourning, nico doesn’t read very well in english, nico moves his hands to articulate as he’s speaking, nico has ptsd, nico has a weird relationship with touch, nico is

#nico di angelo #hoo #pjo

[chuplayswithfire]

I have more thoughts on how and why the sex was a mistake. I will be thinking about this all week. All year.

Let's start with: the sex was consensual, they both wanted it, and that does not change that it was the wrong decision for their relationship in that moment. They should not have had sex! Ed is 100% correct and he is not running away when he says that! He is not just avoiding his feelings or getting cold feet, he is genuinely correct, and here's why:

They continue to be on different pages. They have not had a chance to talk it through. It's been like 2-3 max since Ed woke up from the Gravy Basket, and emotions are still running high. Even ignoring that they were just tortured in front of each other and that Stede killed a man right after Ed asked him not to, they were not in the same space emotionally regarding their relationship.

Fir one thing: Stede did *not* get his heartbroken (prior to this). He got his romantic affirmation. Season 1 was an entire arc leading to Stede realizing he is gay, that he is in love, that he is loved in return. For him, for HIM, sex is a natural next step, and we already knew he wanted it from how he deepened their kiss in episode 5. Their relationship itself is not a source of trauma for Stede; he loves Ed and he walked away from his old life to be with him, and now he found him again, and they've agreed to do it together, figure things out, his romantic hopes are realized.

And in that moment, adding to that background informations, is that Stede also wanted to avoid all his messy feelings by being physical. He was tortured and he watched Ed and his crew be tortured, he was insulted and had to listen to Ed be insulted, and he wanted to regain control and power by killing Ned Low, and removing the threat. That's where Stede's head is.

Ed, on the other hand, did get his heart broken and while the majority of what he's working through is about his self-hatred, his dissatisfaction with his career, and his desire to find a life that feels worth living, he is also dealing with a significant amount of trust issues with his relationship with Stede, because Stede left him. He has heard from Stede that he loves him, but Ed's deepest fear is that he's unlovable, and he hasn't gotten over that, or his hurt from how things went, in the like two days it's been.

But he loves Stede, and he's attracted to him, and he wants him, so when Stede initiates and manhandles him a bit and things get hot and heavy, he consents. He's all in, carried away by the moment.

And he regrets it.

He especially wasn't ready because Ed is a planner. I know we were all joking about how they definitely weren't going to take it slow and they were going to rush through, but I do genuinely think he meant it. Ed's natural state is as a planner and tactician, everything has an angle for him and even when he wants to just be simple, he always has a bajillion factors in mind that he's juggling, so we can be sure that Ed probably did very much have thoughts about how he wanted their first time to go, and what he wanted them to do and grow into as a relationship before they had sex, and instead they got tortured, Stede killed a man, and then they fucked in the aftermath.

Not bloody optimal indeed.

Now back to Stede: he is utterly unprepared for the idea that the sex could be a mistake because to and for him it was the natural next step in their relationship. This is his romantic fantasy is the thing; he was a cool brave pirate captain who made an enemy walk the plank in defense of his crew and his boyfriend, and then Ed came to him and Stede got to sweep him off his feet and shove him against the wall, kiss him, bring him to the bed, and pointedly shut the curtains on an audience that doesn't exist, followed by a lazy morning after with breakfast in bed.

So it probably hurts extra that Ed is like that was a mistake. This is literally him living his fantasy from episode 1, Ned Low even has facial hair and is mean to him like Izzy used to be. He could ignore all the realities of that situation, because he was living his fantasy, and Ed dragged them both out of fantasyland, back to the real world, where their relationship isn't fixed 100% and sex didn't change that.

They weren't on the same page. They still aren't, because they need to talk.

#ofmd #edward teach #stede bonnet #blackbonnet #gentlebeard #ofmd s2 spoilers #ofmd meta

[madkiska]

watching the entirety of jrwi: riptide again. here's some important things from the first few episodes that I feel we forgot (<110 mentions too though)

Jay

Had night terrors similar to those of Kubakinta's curse in episode 5, and they eventually start returning even after Loffinlot's curse is lifted ○ All of them were about her family and/or the navy ○ I simply think people leave her out of the nightmare stuff and she deserves it. Hurt her more, please (he said, lovingly)

was actually very upset at having to use her medal to get a Loffinlot rebellion to shut up ○ This could be because she didn't want them to guess she was a spy, but I choose to believe it's because she felt guilty

"If you're gonna be sailing with someone, you should have a good relationship with them. [nervous chuckle]." She says, while asking him for information about the Black Rose Pirates (ep. 10)

Said "thank god they didn't find me" after a nightmare about the navy attacking. Even when she was supposedly a spy, who one day would have to return to the navy ○ Very unclear if she was scared of her dad, or if it's because she was a secret spy so the navy would've just killed her

Rewatching, she was suspiciously into the plundering and gold and stuff. Like that was real sus. It doesn't fit her current character much

The only one among them who's gambled before

Chip

The entire thing literally starts off with Bizly holding a lit match

Called Gillion "Gill" and Jay "Sureshot" from an early stage

Was SO much more of a bastard. Lied to Gill constantly, didn't care about anything but the money, etc.

Had aggressive hand tremors alongside Jay's night terrors ○ Gill cures it with lay on hands

When he gets drunk married, they talk extensively about how he'd be released when he's dead. Welp.

They did actually break up and it was fine and they were still friends. They parted on good terms

Is really fucking good at chess ○ Beat Earl twice and Jay once. Jay had a point of exhaustion after a nightmare but Earl had no excuse ○ Lost to Gillion though, but only cause of prophetic screwup ○ This kid is smarter than he lets on, y'all

Was the first one to have a backstory dump while Jay is asking him about the Black Rose Pirates, yet still we know jack shit about his life before them other than "orphan"

Gill

Charlie has referred to Gillion with 'they' many times. I can pull receipts.

When describing Gill, Charlie said: "He's more.. elven, if you had to make a comparison. 'Cause I don't wanna be a fish guy". Oh, honey.

Smote a bald person by using his hair as a whip (ep. 4)

Was given anxiety and self-doubt alongside jay's night terrors and chip's tremors ○ "What do you want?" "I want the feeling of satisfaction I've been chasing my whole life." ○ This was episode FIVE.

First mention of the prophecy and how Gillion wasn't their ideal student is ep. 7, after he divine smites + prophetic screwups and deals like 60 damage to some beetles ○ Chip spends the next 30 seconds in gay awe

He refers to the crescent moon Niklaus tattoo as "my zodiac" (probably a bit) ○ It's not a lil basic white girl moon this thing is the entire size of his forearm

Gill had never heard about the Black Sea - it's unclear if the Undersea just don't know, or if that's just how sheltered he was (ep. 10)

Biz: "What would Gillion do. If he just had no goal - was just sitting there." "Gillion always has a goal." "Would his goal ever be to just.. Sit there?" "Absolutely not." ○ Later, Chip expresses that he doesn't know what Gillion likes. What he would want out of winning a bet. Gillion doesn't have an answer

Other

Apple, in a couple of early battles, acted like Gill's familiar (see: ep. 7)

They also pecked at his Niklaus tramp stamp and looked all confused at the idea of eating seeds

The specific crescent of the moon in the Niklaus tattoo is known as a symbol of "corruption" (ep. 9) and its antonym is the sun, for "life", similar to the yin and yang ○ Interesting to consider after what the tree said in 110 <_<

Pretzel has a masters degree in couple's therapy (ep. 10)

The Albatross/Millennium Chipper was described as the colour of rosewood or mahogany

Captain Lizzie's first introduction was a wanted poster, and Chip wanted to turn her in for the prize, then decided to try learn from her instead

Chip/Bizly called Old Man Earl "Erol" for a loooong time ○ Maybe it's an accent thing but I have an uncle called Erol and so this stands out to me

#I have lots of thoughts about all of this #jay also got her gun in like ep 1 but didnt use it for ages #idk. it's unclear with the combat in the beginning. she just says “shoot”. i love her anyway #jay the kinda girl to have a “no boys” sign up but then when she meets chip and gill she changes it to “son boy” like that one meme #theyre all my favourite character #not art #jrwi riptide #jrwi show #jrwi jay #jrwi chip #jrwi gillion #jay ferin #chip bastard #gillion tidestrider #jrwi #just roll with it #just roll with it show #just roll with it riptide