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dax-enfinity · 2 years
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Can I ask what do you have against so//ange//o? Just out of curiosity? I never saw anyone hating it?
Well first off in my opinion their relationship was rushed and we didn’t even get to see them start to develop it
(first interaction: Blood of Olympus up to Trials of Apollo would be around 8 months or so)
Also, I don’t really like Nico and Will’s doctor x patient dynamic since in our modern day and age a doctor and a patient conceiving a romantic and or sexual relationship is clearly seen as heavy taboo
Since it could show the doctor / caretaker as extremely unprofessional in their own work field and also seen as a malpractice coming from the doctor since they could even lose their own medical license or put it heavily at risk
And I quote:
“Sexual Misconduct, Even going on a date with a patient could put licensure at risk; the American Medical Association makes it clear that physicians (in this case doctor) cannot ethically have a romantic relationship while they act as their doctor.”
-Clapp, Peterson | Professional Malpractice
(Since Will is clearly American, along with the fact that their dynamic could possibly be seen as ableist)
And now, onto Will Solace as a whole:
Will Solace exists as a satellite character to heal Nico’s pain (as Calypso to Leo), he has a personality of a plastic cup.
And the one time that he interacts with Nico for more than two sentences, he completely disregarded Nico’s feelings and mental state (along with possible boundaries too)
Writing him off as some dramatic teenager rather than somebody who’s dealt with more pain than he will ever
Nico’s trauma as a whole: (there’s probably more but it’ll be too long if I add all of it)
- Bianca’s death
- Being outed as gay
- Falling into Tartarus alone
- Jason’s death
- The whole Hades being a shitty parent
- Being forced to enroll into military school
Then there’s the whole thing where Nico gets mischaracterized as a stereotypical sad emo gay boy in order to get shipped with Will who’s a healer a literal healer
And him being shipped with a literal healer could have some possible implications with conversion therapy since Nico was raised in the 1920’s-1930’s where the Nazi regime was huge along with lots of homophobia
Nico = Conversion Therapy victim
Will = Healer, therefore being responsible for ‘fixing him’
Another key thing, we barely know anything about Will Solace except the fact that his hair fucking glows in the dark (like Rick seriously?) and his whole ‘I’m his doctor’ schtick
TLDR; I find S///ge//o to be pretty weird with their kinda ableist doctor x patient dynamic, and in my opinion Will Solace is a really bland character
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stackofstories · 1 year
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I really dislike Solangelo, but I’m so curious about this new book because Jasico and Stollico potential. Ughhhhhhhhhh
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post-tsats will hate baffles me because i love and relate to him more after the book. heaped with insecurities? me. wants to be useful but feels incompetent? me. total dork and cheesy as hell? me. says and does dumb shit sometimes? me. wants to understand their loved ones but sometimes struggles to do that? me. tries anyway? me.
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devils-little-sista · 4 months
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Nico and Percy have so much in common with how they deal and cope with everything. I feel like if they could ever just sit down and talk about everything they would see that they understand each other better than anybody else in the universe understands them.
Because Will doesn’t understand Nico at all and doesn’t even try to, all Will does is try to gaslight Nico to think that the ostracizing he went through didn’t happen, and doesn’t understand when Nico acts accordingly with his ptsd, and doesn’t understand that Nico does not need to he “fixed” and that Nico was never “broken” — I could go on and on so I’ll leave it at that
Sally and Annabeth and maybe Paul kinda understand the surface of what Percy’s got going on but they know they’re missing something they know Percy’s not telling them everything because Percy doesn’t want to scare them, doesn’t want them to be worried for him, doesn’t want them to be afraid of him (and they already kinda are afraid of him especially Annabeth).
And I feel like Percy would truly understand most of what Nicos been through because he also went through something similar at some point in his life and Percy has never been afraid of Nico like so many people are and Percy tried to include him in things especially when they were younger. Percy sees that Nico is not “broken” he does not need to be “fixed” or “healed”. He just needs understanding and time to get used to something new.
And Nico wouldn’t be afraid of Percy either and Percy could finally let down his guard and tell Nico everything without worrying about Nico being afraid of him or for him. Wouldn’t have to worry about Nico thinking he’s crazy and too dark and too angry. Because Nico understands that Percy’s crazy dark and angry feelings are very much justified and valid and has alot of the same feelings and they have similar ways of coping.
It’s crazy how much they mirror each other. I want them to be friends so bad but I know they wouldn’t really spend time with each other unless they were forced to. I wish Chiron or Sally or Annabeth would lock them in one of their cabins for a few days so they can actually talk and make a bond.
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So I've been seeing a lot of will solace hate, and I'm here to defend my son.
First of all, he's not a toxic person at all he's a human who can mess up at times and be unintentionally rude, like in that one scene boo where he says
‘Oh, please.’ Will sounded unusually angry. ‘Nobody at Camp Half-Blood ever pushed you away. You have friends – or at least people who would like to be your friend. You pushed yourself away. If you’d get your head out of that brooding cloud of yours for once –
^ that is rude but he didn't have bad intentions because according to him nico wasn't scary and the people that he hung out with - Lou Ellen and Cecil- didn't think that nico was scary either as they were both friendly towards him when they met him at the Roman camping area outside chb so while his delivery wasn't good he meant no harm and he also helped nico realize that not everyone hates him and then there are a few jokes that he made that people consider toxic or offensive but nico was never offended or sad about these jokes he only rolled his eyes and acted exasperated so he knew will meant no harm .
Will is canonically described as a laid-back and calm person, but he is also stubborn when it comes to certain things like medical related things which is understandable since he can feel everything physically wrong with a person by just touching them and is persistent that they don't die and Take care of themselves which is understandable since he saw majority of his siblings die and doesn't want more ppl to die .
Will is actually quite a complex character he's calm and laid back but he's stubborn and strict when he needs to be he's supportive and loving to nico but since he's a kid he struggles with being understanding sometimes hence why he asks persephone for advice on how to be there for nico properly showing that he's mature enough to ask for help . He's also someone represses his emotions because he thinks that as head counselor, he has to be a perfect example, and he told this apollo in the 1st toa book. He's also pretty insecure about his abilities, as shown in boo
Evidence:
You did,’ confirmed Nico. ‘But it was the way you did it. You made it clear that you wanted me around. You said you wanted me to come to the infirmary and help, because … because you could use a “friendly face”.’
‘It was true. And you did help.’
‘You brought me closer instead of rejecting me,’ Nico said, his voice cracking. ‘I’d never been called a friendly face. Ever. You made me rethink everything – my place in camp, my crush on Percy, my future. It took you scolding me like you were the camp director to make me realize that I was … wanted.
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But with Nico … It’s hard, Persephone. I want the best for him, and he seems to disappear into his darkness, like he’s hiding in a place where he doesn’t want my light.’
‘Then why not offer him your darkness
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Nico sighed in exasperation. He hated working with other people. They were always cramping his style, making him uncomfortable. And Will Solace … Nico revised his impression of the son of Apollo. He’d always thought of Will as easygoing and laid back. Apparently, he could also be stubborn and aggravating
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In conclusion will isn't toxic and he isn't perfect and if I'm wrong about something please point it out cause I haven't read the books in a while and if I missed something please point it out and I'm sorry for the typos I wrote this without wearing my glasses as 3 am after studying for a test
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solangelokitkats · 10 months
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“This isn’t something Will would ever say,” shut up. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. OF COURSE WILL IS NOT 100% SURE ABOUT THEIR RELATIONSHIP. IT WOULDN’T BE A TRUE RELATIONSHIP IF HE WAS.
Will is a healer. In fact, he’s regarded as the best healer at CHB. He has so much weight on his shoulders to save the wounded and live up to the title of head counselor of the Apollo cabin. In fact, it is stated in BoO that Will is insecure of his healing abilities, because he wish he could do more to help the front lines, such as being an archer like everyone expects out of Apollo kids. But he can’t, so naturally, all he knows how to do is heal.
Not to mention, many of Will’s half-siblings died. His previous head counselors - his role models - Lee Fletcher and Michael Yew all died in PJO. He was left with the duty of head counselor at 13 years old. Thirteen years old. Thirteen years old, and suddenly he is the eldest in Cabin 7. Thirteen years, and suddenly he has to be the role model for all his half-siblings.
This means, he’s never had the chance to go out and explore his own desires, because his responsibilities will always outweigh anything. That is, until he gets closer to Nico after the war.
Later on in this book, Will states that he’s never met anyone like Nico. And that pretty much just sums up everything.
Nico is his polar opposite. He’s a child of Hades, of the Underworld. He is, quite literally, the son of death.
He spends some of his time actually in the Underworld. The Underworld, the resting place for Will’s half-siblings. The Underworld, the resting place for the patients he could not save. Of course Will is skeptical of the Underworld. I mean, who wouldn’t be?
Will Solace is completely valid for his opinions. Why? Because he tries. He tries his best to understand the Underworld. He tries his best to understand Nico.
So yes, I thought this scene was absolutely beautiful. This is why Will and Nico will always, ALWAYS, hold a special place in my heart.
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flower1622 · 3 months
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*Percy and Annabeth fall into Tartarus*
Everyone: 😰😭
*Nico is missing*
Everyone (Except Hazel and Will): Who is Nico?
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makeithappenandreal · 10 months
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Percy is the only pure anti hero in the whole Percy Jackson series. Hear me out. I know you will say Nico is an anti hero but Nico actually has a classic hero streak inside if you think about it. Just because he was blinded by revenge for a while does not mean his sole motivation in the books was that. Afterwise, he actually thrived to be a hero and did things to save the world, to be a hero. Remember the last book in PJO.
There is not one single action Percy did in the entire saga that was done because he wanted to be a hero rather than to protect his loved ones. He did not question if what he is doing is right before doing it but questioned whether it helped his loved ones. He did not have the want to be accepted by his parent like others.
That is one of the reasons I love Percy.
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RICK RIORDAN: I based Annabeth and Percy Jackson's relationship off of my wife And i's marrige :) I love Becky
SOME OF YALL ANTI PERCYBETH MFS: PERCY JACKSON'S CHARATER IS NOTHING MORE THEN THAT OF AN ABUSE VICTIM AND HAS NO NUANCE OUTSIDE OF THAT ALSO ANNABETH IS AN ABUSIVE WITCH WHO DERERVES TO DIE FOR DARING TO BE A WOMAN WHO HAS A PERSONALITY OUTSIDE OF ACCOMODATING HER BOYFRIEND.
Rick Riordan:
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g0thnico · 4 months
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I think a lot about how they treat Nico with an eating disorder in fanfics
For a person with an eating disorder, it is very VERY uncomfortable and heartbreaking when someone ""trying to help"" feels sorry/angry because we don't eat something. Ok we KNOW how bad this is for everyone and we are trying to get better (some don't but it's a process) just give us time, you're not a damn psychologist
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no1valgraceshipper · 1 month
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Rating ships bc I’m bored,
Percabeth - 100000000/10 like obv
Jercy - 10/10 I love Jercy sm u don’t understand
Valgrace - 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000/10 all I write abt is them
Solangelo - 10/10 Jsjsjs grumpy x sunshine
Shelper - they seem so cute together so far so prob like 7.5/10
Jasper/Jiper - 2/10 Pipers fake memories were cute ig?
Jeyna - IF Reyna wasn’t aroace they could’ve been cute so 4/10 don’t ship it tho
Theyna - NO. they r both huntress of Artemis ??? 0/10
Pernico - disrespectfully jail xoxo -1010918282828/10
Jasico - same as Pernico just a little less minus numbers -291982/10
Valdangelo - they r so cute 8.5/10
Pipabeth - AAAA I love them sm !! 9.5/10
Rachbeth - I don’t read much of it but from what I’ve read it’s pretty cool !! 7.5/10
Perchel - I don’t like them together :c 3/10 the kiss was cute tho
Frazel - 9/10 bc the age is a bit iffy
Caleo - -179229682698729872692862/10 rot in the pits of Tartarus tysm!!
sanubis - -17198719816186881868816/10 same as caleo
Zarter - don’t rlly know bc it was kinda fake for a lot of the ship?? But they r not bad so 6/10
Fierrochase - YESSSSSSSSSSSSS 272987298272/10
Bliztstone - 161671816/10 it’s canon idc what u say /hj
lmk if I missed any u ship ??
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dax-enfinity · 2 years
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The new S////gelo book synopsis reads like a shitty fanfiction (Wattpad style) and you can tell he’s being really influenced by the fandom
They’re going to fucking Tartarus for fucks sake, and Will isn’t even a fighter so he’s gonna do the sleeping beauty tactic if Nico gets hurt /j
Also the other writer (Mark Oshiro) only writes a bunch of YA novels (yeah, those books with those colorful covers with the line less art)
So, we’re fucking screwed
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thaliasthunder · 1 year
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yeah i do love percy and everything but never understimate my capacity of becoming the biggest percy hater in the world when it comes to defend nico
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blueskyportrait · 11 months
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I chose violence oops/hj
art by @minuiko
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devils-little-sista · 5 months
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Some people will say they hated the way the 7 (minus Hazel Jason Reyna Hedge) treated Nico in HoO and then immediately turn around and say that’s why they love solangelo so much because Will treats him better somehow?????? Sure the 7 were total jerks to him but In reality in cannon Will treated Nico so much worse than the 7 ever did so that doesn’t make any effing sense to me I’m sorry.
At least the 7 mostly kept their rude thoughts to themselves. Will straight up said to Nicos face all the rude things he was thinking about him and anything to do with the underworld. And also tried to gaslight Nico to think the ostracizing he went through didn’t happen. The cannon version of Will was so much worse than any of the 7 were.
Hazel, Reyna, Hedge, and eventually Jason are the only ones who thought about him and treated him like a human.
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percabeth4life · 11 months
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is it just me or does everyone else see the nico disability hcs as annoying and fuckdd up? if I see another solangelo shipper give nico a disability for will to handle it in a fucked up, ableist way I will fight someone
disability isn't fun. it's not cute to give one to someone for an uwu power dynamic for your white boy squared gay ship
No same. Like I DO like disabled Nico, but for genuine "he's basically disabled in canon it's just not really acknowledged". Like he's def chronically fatigued from his powers and honestly should probably have a mobility aid for support.
But the way a lot of s*langelo shippers write it makes me cringe.
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