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foxfairy06 · 1 year

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TW: mentions of molestation, beating, abuse, grooming, etc.

#exclusionist #gravity knife gay #anti inclus #anti inclusionist #battleaxe bi #exclus #longsword lesbian #transmed #transmed safe #esai lgbt #truscum safe #pro truscum #lgbt #pro lgbt #lgbt safe #anti xenogender #anti mogai #anti tucute

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sothisistheweightofcreation · 10 months

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on a related note, whats the point of ace/mspec/mogai/polyam exclusionism, politically? like whats the end goal? how will it materially benefit the queer people you're supportive of?

ive seen exclusionists say they don't bring their beliefs up when organising irl, because it would distract from the actual political work they're doing. and at that point I'm like, well. it they're irrelevant or even counter-productive, why continue to hold these beliefs? what do they do for the people around you?

#exclusionist #anti inclus #exclus #anti mspec #anti mogai #anti polyam #ace discourse

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lesbianexclu · 11 months

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happy pride month everyone! :3 friendly reminder that

lesbians do not like men

(=^･ω･^=)

#exclusionist #lesbian #longsword lesbian #lgbt #lgbtq #pride month #pride #lesbian pride #anti inclus #exclus #pro exclus #exclus interact #common sense :3

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slithymomerath · 1 year

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I recently ran into the tumblr radqueer community. I was just lurking for a bit, but now I have some thoughts.

First, about transid:

- Just because I don’t personally experience something doesn’t mean that it’s not real and that anyone saying they experience it is just lying to get attention.

- If someone is doing their own thing and talking about their own feelings about themself and not hurting anyone else, there’s no reason to be upset with them.

- Last but certainly not least, I can’t find a logically consistent reason to be okay with transgender people and not okay with transid people.

The most common arguments I’ve heard against transid people are:

- Their existence is damaging to people who physically have that identity. How, exactly? If they try to represent the opinions of the community and lie about their transid status, then yeah, but that’s also a problem if trans women were to do it about experiences that are specific to cis women. The vast majority of trans women don’t do that, and if some of them do, we can condemn the behavior, not the group.

- They’re fetishizing our identity and making us feel reduced to a stereotypical, sunshiney version of our traits, instead of a whole human. If people engage in fetishizing behavior, like treating others badly while fixating on certain traits of theirs, we can be upset at them for that. However, if they’re talking about feelings they have about themselves and no one else, I don’t see why we should be upset with them. Also, this argument can again be applied to transgender people.

Now, to move on to something scarier: paraphilias. My thoughts:

- Many people enjoy play-acting and engaging in fantasies about things they would never want to physically participate in.

- If you fantasize about doing something that would be immoral if you actually did it, that doesn’t make you a bad person.

We as a society understand these points implicitly about some things, and refuse to understand them about others. For example:

- Most games of D&D involve play-acting that you’re killing other people. Many people play as characters with violent tendencies who kill lots of innocent people.

- A lot of sexual role-playing is about situations that would be very unethical in real life. For example, if anyone involved is pretending to be a nurse/teacher/etc, pretty much all of BDSM, consensual non-consent.

- Calling anyone “Daddy” or “Mommy” in a sexual way. This one is especially mind-blowing to me, because of the difference in how people treat this kink and paraphilias. In real life, this would be pedophilic incest. But we all understand that the people who participate in this kink are only play-acting. And nothing happened as a result of our non-hatred. It didn’t contaminate vanilla people, it didn’t make anyone think that real life pedophilic incest is okay, the people who like to play-act this are just vibing in their own little corners of the world.

Common concerns:

- HOW COULD YOU SUPPORT PEDOS YOU SICK FUCK GO KYS— I would never support anyone doing real-life pedophilia. I will never be okay with someone doing actions that hurt other people. I just don’t think I should be mean to D&D players, people who call each other “Daddy” in the bedroom, people with rape fantasies (in either direction), or people who sexually fantasize about children. I’m not going to lie, it feels bad to say that.

- All people who have pedophilic fantasies go do pedo actions or watch child porn, so it’s basically the same thing. I don’t know of a statistic that states if this is true or not (please let me know if you do), but I would guess that it’s probably not, based on my understanding of the world and the previous examples I gave (i.e. people with rape fantasies).

This one applies to both transid and paraphilias:

- I’ve been deeply hurt by someone fetishizing my identity and/or doing pedophilic actions. I cannot fathom how some people could have positive feelings about these ideas instead of utter disgust, grief, and rage. I reserve the right to hate them. I’m so, so sorry. I can’t blame you for your feelings at all. If you tell me to die in a fire because of what I’ve written, I understand. I don’t blame you. I forgive you.

I refuse to be afraid of things that aren’t hurting me just because of their association with things that would actually hurt me and use that as a reason to be mean to others. This sentence applies both to how I feel about people who might be angry at me anonymously on the internet and transid/paraphilic people.

Finally, a quote that really made an impression on me:

“LGBT normies are under impression that the concept of sexual deviance was initially coined to describe someone else and applied to them by mistake.” -@female-to-faggot

Please let me know if you have thoughts about this that I didn’t address. I really appreciate constructive criticisms, they help me grow. I’m open to changing my mind about any of this.

#radqueer #anti radqueer #inclus #anti exclus #rad inclus #anti inclus #c

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lupinjekyll-istired · 1 year

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As a bisexual trans male this is your reminder that you do not have permission call me;

"queer" (that's technically a slur & it's very effeminate and invaldiating)

"gay" (I'm not a homosexual just because I'm trans)

"tr*nny" (or any other slur that relates to my identity even if you are trans too)

"transmasc" (no, Emily I'm not 'transmasculine' I am a male, not a GNC who dresses like a boy and thinks that means they get an extra label)

"uterus owner" (or any of that bullshit that's only there to remind me that I'm stuck in a female body)

DNI: terfs, anti shippers, inclusionists, pro-mogai

#transmed safe #anti inclus #terfs dni #exclusionist safe

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lifeofcynch · 2 years

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Another thing, as an Aroace girl I also don’t get why it’s so controversial to say that cis Aroaces aren’t lgbt. Like I consider us aros and aces to be more of a separate community that’s more like a sister community to the lgbt community, rather than being the same thing, you know?

i have the same opinion. to me it’s its own thing. i feel like a lot of people really want to push themselves into the LGBT community when they don’t need to because they want to be part of something like that now that there’s more acceptance going around. it’s LGBT because gay/lesbian, bi and trans people have been oppressed throughout history and stuck together. then suddenly people are trying to force their way into that community even though it’s not the same thing. they just do not get treated in the same ways as SGA and gender dysphoric people. like i’ve never heard of for example an ace/aro person getting thrown off a building in the middle east for being ace/aro. the experiences are wildly different. ace and aro people go through their own specific struggles. what would be so wrong with being their own separate community?

one of the least convincing takes i’ve seen is that technically a (cis) aroace wouldn’t be straight… like, yea? that’s true, but they’re not gay/bi either so how does that change anything? the only way an aroace person would be LGBT is if they’re trans, and that would be because of the trans part.

#ace/aro discourse #anti inclus #LGBT

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gray-ace-space · 14 days

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recently encountered a post where someone said "gender is fluid but sexuality isn't". (they were talking about bi lesbians.)

my first thought was: does that person, like. hear what they're saying? how can you explicitly hold two beliefs that are so logically inconsistent and not see it? how can you simultaneously think gender is this fluid and complex thing, but sexuality, much of which is defined around gender, is simple and stationary and its boundaries need policing?

but like, fuck, why even argue against it, right? there is no internal logic because there is no logical thought behind it. these are not genuine beliefs. this person is repeating what is currently acceptable in their (small) specific social circle. this is the same person who, a few years back, would be excluding nonbinary lesbians, but nonbinary lesbians are cool and normal on queer tumblr now, so they'll exclude bi lesbians instead, and not even pause to reflect on the difference.

oh, and if you read this and thought "these people don't even actually accept nb lesbians either", ding ding ding! because it's not a real, deep belief, that acceptance is extremely shallow and conditional. so as soon as someone is an nb lesbian in a way these people find odd (like being both a man and a lesbian) they will exclude them too and find a way to justify it.

why do we have to endlessly go through this cycle with queer identities. can we not? can we just not. i'm tired.

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maxrqstuff · 2 months

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Nεςrο ρridε dαy !!!

I heard that there is NO day for us >:(

So its know on the 17.04. (April)

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17: from the roman number XVII, which is an anagram of VIXI. Which means “i have lived” (i am dεαd)

4: from Chinese, Korean and Japanese. Because in all languages 4 sounds similar to the word dεαth.

So in about one Month happy nεςrο ρridε dαy ❣︎❣︎❣︎

☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎☠︎︎

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everyponie · 29 days

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"anti good faith identities" do you know how insane you sound

#lesboy #good faith identity #bi lesbian #lesbian #queer #gay #inclus #exclus #anti lesboy #anti mspec lesbian #mspec lesbian #mspec #turigirl

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foxfairy06 · 10 months

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#exclusionist #gravity knife gay #anti inclusionist #anti inclus #battleaxe bi #exclus #longsword lesbian #transmed #transmed safe #esai lgbt #truscum safe #lgbt #discourse memes #anti mogai #anti xenogender

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sothisistheweightofcreation · 9 months

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(genuinely) how do exclus deal with pride parades? I was at one the other day and there were people of all genders ans sexualities, including "controversial" ones (for lack of a better term). i even saw someone with a full-size catgender flag.

i assume yous just mind your own business, but wouldnt it be like, disheartening to see that the majority of the lgbt+ community is fine with every sort of identity? it signals to me that exclusionism is neither popular nor likely to ever become popular, especially in todays political climate that makes banding together all the more important.

#exclusionist #exclus #anti inclus #lgbt discourse

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radinclus-not-radqueer · 8 months

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Supporting mspec lesbians/gays, lesboys/turigirls, and other contradictory identities does not make you radqueer. If you support those things, you are in no way radqueer for it, because those identities are harmless and backed by a lot of history and culture (while radqueer identities aren't). Being inclusive does not make you radqueer. Radqueers are lying when they say no one will accept you, because most people are inclusive and they will all accept you <3

#anti radqueer #anti transid #anti transx #former radqueer #anti transage #anti trace #anti transabled #anti transautistic #ex radqueer #mspec lesbian #pan lesbian #bi lesbian #mspec gay #lesboy #mspec #mspec mono #inclus #rad inclus

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doll-queer · 2 months

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Trans schizophrenia flag(inspired by schizophrenia flag)

An transabled identity where one feels they should have schizophrenia

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inuette · 4 months

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Radinclus does NOT mean Radqueer

[PT: Radinclus does not mean Radqueer. END PT.]

　🦴🎀 — proof read by the boyfie & ⛪️ — unedited

essay under the cut due to length

Well, to start with, what do either of these terms even mean? We have an explanation of radqueers (and why the community is flawed) here! If the post is too long for you to read, a basis is: They steal terms from others, support transitioning for terms that never supported it in the first place or that are impossible to transition to (i.e. transracial and/or transage) and their community is full of entirely pro-contact beings (people who support paraphiles, all of them, acting on their paraphilias) and groomers whether a "good radqueer" or not.

But then, what's a radinclus? It's a term that's commonly associated with and mixed up with the term radqueer. Radinclus is short for "radically inclusive," the term generally means one is in support of identities like gaybians, lesboys & veldigirls/turigirls and mspec monos (pan lesbians, bi gays, etc.) All of these terms are known as "contradictory" and/or good faith terms.

So, what's the difference? Radqueers have outright stolen terms and are misusing them, whether using the terms in good faith or because they think it's "cute" or "fun" in some way, they're still being misused and causing harm. These terms belonged to different groups that weren't necessarily queer, but are being taken to mean something they never meant in the first place. Terms that those who are radinclus support have history in queer culture and have existed long before radqueers ever decided to appropriate other groups' terms.

The terms lesboy and veldigirl/turigirl are typically used by systems, those who are multigender or those who are trans and still feel a queer attraction towards women or men. These terms were never meant to be used by solely cisgender heterosexual men or solely cisgender heterosexual women. To say that multigender people who may identify as a man and a woman don't belong in either gay nor lesbian communities IS discrimination. You can be a minority and a marginalized group and discriminate against other marginalized groups, excluding multigender people from these spaces is discrimination. By letting them into your spaces, no, we aren't forcing you to date them. But acknowledge that they exist — acknowledge that gender is different for everyone and because of that, so is sexuality.

For those who are trans and still feel a queer attraction towards the opposite gender, that is entirely valid! The NWLNW (Non-Women Loving Non-Women) and NMLNM (Non-Men Loving Non-Men) terms were historically used by TERFs to discriminate against trans men and women and imply that they were not 'actual men' or 'actual women'. Alternative terms to NWLNW and NMLNM are QLM & QLW (Queer Loving Men and Queer Loving Women). A cisgender heterosexual man would never understand the queer attraction that a trans man might feel towards women, nor would a cisgender heterosexual woman be able to understand the queer attraction towards men that a trans woman may hold. And no, a trans man using the term lesbian or a trans woman using the term gay isn't misgendering themselves — if one label fits them more than another & they're using it in good faith, let them!

Now, what's a 'gaybian'? Or a 'lesgay'? Or a 'straightbian'!? Someone who identifies as both gay & a lesbian (or straight and a lesbian, but we'll be focusing on what a gaybian because the same explanation can be used for other variations). You might be thinking now, well if the definition for lesbian and gay are queer loving men and queer loving women, how can you experience queer attraction to both if you're not both genders? Well, for one, most people who are gaybian are multigender — the way they view their attraction to both genders may be different because of that. They may view themself as both a gay man and a lesbian woman, and that's perfectly valid! If you believe that one or both of their identities as such are invalid or that they need to make their own community, that just means you have internalized biases against multigendered people. Others who may use this term are systems due to the varying genders and orientations between the alters.

Finally, mspec monos, also known as mspec gays or lesbians. Firstly, what does 'mspec' mean? Mspec is short for multispec, which is the umbrella term for identities in which one is attracted to multiple genders — i.e. pansexual, bisexual, omnisexual, etc. How can one be both multispec and lesbian? The most common explanation are those who use SAM, the split-attraction model. Many use the argument that SAM was made for aspecs by aspecs, and therefore mspecs cannot use it, but the first example of the SAM was in 1879 by Karl Heinrich Ulrich who used the example of heteroromantic homosexual in his writings. While romantic and sexual attraction may not be as separate and more intertwined for others, that isn't the case for everyone. Not everyone has to use the split attraction model, but it does work for those who's sexuality and romantic orientations are aimed towards separate genders.

Some people just ARE multispec and gay/lesbian — not understanding an identity isn't an excuse to shit on or discriminate against it. That's not to say blindly accept it, but there is proof and recorded history of these identities existing in the queer community for years. You cannot brush them off as "just a new fad" or "trend" when they've existed since before you did. Most radqueers support harmful beliefs and encourage them, radinclus is the inclusion of identities that have always been apart of our community — but have been thrown to the side for more 'easy to understand' ones. Whether you think they're 'the reason people aren't willing to understand' or not, don't fight against people who're in the same community fighting the same fight as you. There will be people who will hate you whether you're the most 'normal', 'straight-person-looking' lesbian ever or the people that you hate in your own community — the only difference is that when they're driving YOU out, there'll be no one left to help you.

Other Good Faith Identity Resources : Lesboys Carrd , Good Faith Resources Hub , Bi Gay / Lesbian Masterdoc

#➜ talking.#➜ resources.#➜ archived — anti radqueer.#anti rq #anti radqueer #anti prat #anti 🍓🌈#anti radshit #anti radpara #radinclus #radinclu #rad inclus #( 🦴🎀 )

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demiaroacejolynekujo · 3 months

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Lately, I've been seeing discourse about if it's okay to romantically ship Alastor with other characters regardless of the fact he's canonically aroace. I've decided to put my two cents into this as an aroace person.

As a romance and sex favored aroace person, using the whole "ace/aro people can be in relationships" thing should only be used when aphobes and exclusionists are trying to dehumanize Ace/Aro people, not in shipping discourse. I understand that people are trying to say that in good faith. However, that statement can be used as a way to exclude and invalidate romance/sex repulsed Ace/Aro people.

The only way it's okay to romantically ship Ace/Aro characters is if those said characters aren't romance/sex repulsed. Alastor is clearly a romance and sex repulsed aroace character, and putting him in romantic/sexual ships ignores his undesire for a romantic and sexual relationship. However, there's nothing wrong with putting him in platonic or "frienemies"/rival ships as long as you're not doing it for the purpose of wanting him in a romantic/sexual relationship.

I can not speak for the entirety of the Ace/Aro community, but it's important to acknowledge that there's nothing wrong with aroace people who don't pursue romantic/sexual relationships. It's completely valid, and it's also important to normalize the diversity of the Asexual, Aromantic, and aroace spectrums.

#hazbin hotel criticism #hazbin hotel critical #hazbin hotel critique #asexual #aromanitc #aromantic asexual #asexual aromantic #acespec #arospec #asexual spectrum #aromantic spectrum #aroace #aroace spectrum #anti exclusionist #inclusionist #radical inclusion #rad inclus #rad inclusionist #aphobia

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thee-radio-host-is-a-kookaburra · 3 months

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sticks and stones may break my bones but I got fanart and you wasted a few hours of your day seething

#max squawks #s&b art #anti radqueer #for context a random prat drew fanart of me holding their flag #and the images above are it replaced with anti-prat flags lmao #anti prat #anti radshit #anti rq #anti radqueer inclus #anti radqueer anarchist #<- those are the two flags btw

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