#tw discourse

[penvisions]

dev is....shocked

okay, so i never thought i'd find myself in this situation. but well, here we are. someone was kind enough to bring it to my attention:

a (newer?) user who goes by @kiwiispunk has basically copy and pasted {garnish} and posted it as her own.

she's changed it from joel to frankie, but the premise and scenes are identical. i tried to approach her about it but she was rather defensive and rude. even going so far as to turn the tables onto me being the one who copied her. here are a few screenshots i took of the interaction:

i took a look at the fic she's passing off as hers called chiffonade. and yeah, it's identical to the original writing i gruelled over for days and weeks to get just right. i reported her but i'm not sure what else to do, honestly.

#dev talks #copy cat writer #discourse #tw discourse #stolen writing #personal #pedro pascal fandom #pedro pascal fanfiction #fanfiction #theft

[tightjeansjavi]

Whether the accounts that are stealing and plagiarizing fics from MULTIPLE writers in the community are doing it to be trolls, gain clout, and whatever the fuck else they have on their agenda, it is deeply disturbing and disappointing to see.

Preemptively block and report @kiwiispunk & @pedroslakersshirt (if more accounts are found to be plagiarizing and stealing fics, I will update this post accordingly.)

#tw discourse #plagiarizing #stealing fics #fandom etiquette #block and report #pedro pascal fandom #signal boost!

[swiftispunk]

every day on here feels like this lately

#can we all just be normal #can we leave people alone #can we remember that fiction is fiction and fiction is not real #can we stop trolling users and stealing their content bc we think it's funny to stir shit up #can we stop feeding fics to ai chatbots #can we just enjoy what we enjoy with other people who enjoy the same things as us and ignore the people who disagree #like my block list is a mile long these days but i don't even feel GOOD about that #i'm frustrated that's what it's come to #and i wasn't considering it before but i really genuinely might start only posting fic on ao3 #i keep waiting for things to cool down but they just keep getting stupider #i'm so tired #there are some truly bad apples in this fandom that seem hellbent on ruining it for everyone #and i'm losing hope that they'll just go away with time #anyway #hannah screams #tw discourse

[locustgirl]

god forbid women have fantasies they incorporate into their art.

god forbid women explore taboos in fictional spaces.

god forbid women reshape their own abuse into sexual pleasure.

god forbid women have imaginations that are dark and twisted and weird.

imagine if we brought this energy to actual fucking predators.

#tw discourse #fucking media puritans #ellie williams smut #joel miller smut #abby anderson smut

[rinhaler]

@saturnsatnin HAS STOLEN MY WORK

So I wrote this fic for a collab back in early November and this person has decided to steal not only the entire thing, but my requests and drabbles too. I haven’t had a proper look but I am SHAKING with anger. The only thing they changed is the characters involved. I’m not sure if they’ve stolen anyone else’s work, but you know people like this are too lazy and in creative to write their own stuff so please make sure to see if anything of yours has been stolen.

I am FUMING I have no idea what to do in this situation.

#🧚🏽‍♀️ — luxe chit chat #tw stealing #tw discourse #I guess #Jesus CHRIST if you want to fucking get clout just write your own shit it’s not HARD #austin butler smut #dominik szoboszlai smut

[miindjack]

friendly reminder since discourse is happening and peepaw is tired:

this is okay to reblog. in fact, i highly encourage it.

#[ valor chats ] #joel miller x reader #ellie williams x reader #abby anderson x reader #anyways peepaw is going to bed #y'all are wacky #the block button and tag filtration system exist for a REASON #you can even download xkit for a post block option #tw discourse

[psychedelic-ink]

I just want to say that you cannot own a character or an au. If the fandom has came to a point where people are worried to write for a character just because someone else owns them or get nervous over writing an au just because someone else beat them to it, we’re doing something wrong.

If you see me writing an au and want to go for it, feel free to do so. If you credit me as inspo that's fine, if not that's also fine because like I said no one owns these aus. Unless you're taking direct plot points or copy pasting things to your own fic from someone else’s, which is obviously a big no no, writing for the same au is fine. And I’d honestly hate to see people not writing things they want to write just because someone claims they’re the only person allowed to write it. That’s not how this works.

Just food for thought

#tw discourse #sil talks.🎤 #tw fandom discourse

[yb-cringe]

sorry this is such like a niche problem but it rubs me the wrong way when the fuckin. like fun police come raining on someones parade like ohh this isn’t accurate! this isnt in character! like who cares!! its not the canon material its FAN made its for FUN what are you a fucking cop??????

#like ill see someone bash their own hcs like i kjow this could never happen in canon #like why would i assume that. its for fun. #discourse #tw discourse

[actuallyverynormalbtw]

i dont like to talk about self-diagnosis because i dont enjoy people making assumptions about me, my illnesses, and my diagnostic status. but i will say:

i have self diagnosed and gone on to be medically validated with an official diagnosis. multiple times actually. i was never wrong about my self-diagnoses.

however, i have been misdiagnosed by professionals FIVE TIMES. and let me tell you, a professional diagnosis being wrong is far more harmful than a self-diagnosis being wrong.

if your self diagnosis is wrong, maybe you used the wrong language or put yourself in a box or now feel invalid and whatnot. but if your professional diagnosis is wrong, it can lead to abuse, medical trauma, panic attacks, issues with medication, even suicide.

i was misdiagnosed with BPD when i was 15 by a psychologist that i spoke to for hardly even 10 minutes. this diagnosis was based on my parent's description of my reactions to abuse, and the diagnosis was used to validate and excuse their abuse.

i was misdiagnosed with MDD when i was 12 and put through several different types of anti-depressants. we never found anything that worked, because it was actually ADHD and dissociation, but i did end up with panic attacks and insomnia all throughout middle/highschool!

when i self-diagnosed with autism however, it saved my life. it took me out of active suicidality because i was able to finally able to accept myself after years of feeling like i am just "being a person wrong". i had the knowledge to accomodate for myself and the language to advocate for myself. this was life changing. even if i was wrong, which i wasnt, i dont see how it couldve caused any harm.

my opinions on self-diagnoses arent black and white, and im not entirely settled on them either, but i do think this is important to understand. doctors and psychologists are not all knowing. we live in a time where we can access thousands of dollars worth of university level education on the internet, even the same exact resources medical students use. plenty of people are capable of interpreting themselves and that information to come to a conclusion about what they are experiencing and what might help.

sure, self-diagnosis might be biased. but a professional is most likely going to be just as biased, and possibly less aware of it. its just silly to use bias as a primary argument when it is an inescapable feature of human psychology. there is a reason ADHD is underdiagnosed in women. there is a reason anxiety disorders are underdiagnosed in men.

an incorrect self-diagnosis wont take away resources or your space in your comminities. but professional misdiagnosis can cause real damage.

(i am not trying to fear-monger about professional diagnosis, moreso responding to the fear-mongering surrounding self-diagnosis)

#self diagnosis #psych critical #actually mentally ill #self diagnosed autism #anti psych #anti psychiatry #discourse tw #tw discourse #madpunk #neurodivergent #neuropunk

[dottores]

people do not appreciate writing as a form of art, they just treat it as a product to mass consume and complain if its not perfectly to their liking

#okay i guess i lied #tw discourse #now im done

[tightjeansjavi]

With everything going on with people being assholes, plagiarizing, and then gaslighting those they plagiarized from?? Absolutely appalling behavior.

Just wanted to kindly remind everyone that I give NO ONE the permission to repost or claim my fics as their own.

Writers work their fucking asses off on their fics and it often takes weeks, sometimes months and years to write something! Plagiarizing isn’t cool, it never will be. And if this were an academic setting? Y’all would be getting in so much DEEP trouble.

I don’t care if you’re new to the community or been here longer than I have, do not steal another writers hard fucking work.

-Gi

#tw discourse #plagiarizing #stealing fics #fandom etiquette #pedro pascal fandom

[swiftispunk]

Hello

same anon from earlier who sent the ask about the friend who thought fics/tropes are being run to the ground;

so what my mutual was also getting at was “all these writers just copy each other when they write popular tropes and it leads to tropes or ideas being over saturated.” they posted that on twitter and everyone was agreeing with them, basically said that people writing the same ideas or even taking inspiration from other writers is considered copying them. i really thought that was rude to say that only certain writers are good at writing a specific character or trope and no one else is allowed to write it, it seemed….like they were putting them on a pedestal or making it some sort of competition? it just weirded me out to hear that take. i wanted to hear your thoughts…does everyone think it’s considered copycat writing if you read something in a fic and want to write the same thing?

well i think considering that people on here are currently having their fics literally copied word for word and reposted by other people, i'm gonna say that i don't think simply writing the same trope or being inspired by another author is "being a copycat." we are seeing what actual copying looks like right now - actual stealing - and, in my opinion, it's not this.

obviously i don't know specifically what these people were referring to but, if the "issue" they have is people writing the same tropes as someone else, they're confused.

it sounds to me like a few different conversations are happening here; writers being put on pedestals, only certain writers being allowed to write certain tropes, writers only writing popular tropes because they see someone else made it popular ig???? idk, it's a lot.

i guess. idk. no one here is original. no writer here owns any tropes or characterizations. most people treat this space like a community and feed off one another in normal, creative ways. most people who write popular tropes do so because they enjoy writing them, not because they're trying to be like someone else. i write dbf!joel because i like it, not because i "want notes" or because i'm trying to emulate another author.

honestly, i think it's weird as hell to compare writers who choose to write the same tropes and even weirder to treat it like a competition or say they're all just "trying so hard to be so-and-so." this fandom has so many writers, if people are out there thinking only one writer is capable of writing a certain trope well, they're not looking hard enough.

and that's on that

#ask #anon #tw discourse

[littletissueghosts]

Transmasc Person: "I am a straight guy, since I am a guy who loves women."

Toxic Queer People™: "Ew, straight guys are all predators, since only non-queer people are straight! Anyways, discrimination against straight men isn't real, even when they're a minority."

Transmasc Person: "Okay, I am a lesbian, since even if I'm not a woman, I still have a connection to womanhood."

Toxic Queer People™: "Lesbian is woman-only! If you are in any way a man or not a woman, you are not a lesbian! Transmascs can never be lesbians or have a connection to womanhood/a lack of manhood! Stop invading the lesbian community!"

I dare you to make it make sense.

#transhet #transmasc lesbian #transmasc #trans mlw #trans man #anti radical feminism #anti exclusionist #radinclus #critinclus #transandrophobia #let trans people define their own relation with gendered terms ffs #trans people need to be allowed to define their own relationship with gendered terms #even if it means that they may be using the “incorrect” word for their orientation #no I do not advocate for calling trans MLW overall lesbians #but if that is the term a trans man uses to describe himself he should not be forbidden from using it #it's 2023 #we need to stop with the “men sneaking into the LGBTQ+ community” radfem rhetoric #q word #tw discourse

[chrollohearttags]

long winded ass post I contemplated not writing but did it anyways. read if you’d like or ignore lmao.

so I feel as though this kind of goes without saying but a lot has changed on tumblr and the vibe has shifted a lot, sadly, not for the better either :/ I thought about this for a while and although last week, I was not posting any new content due to the strike, I’ve decided to step away from writing in general after this month. I could sit here and go on a tangent about how it’s the ‘algorithm’ and ‘dying fandoms’ but to me, this boils down to the fact that I refuse to exhaust myself to be unappreciated + disrespected. That’s not to say I’m ungrateful to everyone who reblogs and comments on my works all the time because I am incredibly grateful! I love each of you and I look forward to reading your tags/thoughts. However, it’s not lost on me that the anime fandom in general is becoming shrouded in toxicity and many of us are being pushed away. We’re in an age where people are seen as content machines and not humans so others feel entitled to their art and feel no need to be kind, understanding or empathetic to that person’s feelings. I’m not wasting my time trying to teach people manners that they should’ve learned a long time ago. I refuse to share my craft with people like that. And to say the quietest part out loud: y’all don’t want black writers around, PERIOD. One scroll through the dash shows that much. As someone who’s written primarily for AOT (not changing btw) and specifically the black side of the fandom, it’s almost laughable at the extreme lengths that ppl have gone through to see it be erased. And I don’t mean getting fics hit with labels or reporting (that failed so they switched to plan B.) since I began back writing in 2020-21, it was obvious that it was the most popular among black girls and I remember ppl telling me to write for them. Hell, it’s the sole reason I even watched. Needless to say, I fell in love with the show and it holds a special place in my heart. However, I realized I didn’t need any of the original material. Not only that, in all the years I’ve been writing, it’s the first time I’ve seen so many black girls resonating and happy with a group of characters. It was the first and only time I’ve seen stories where I didn’t feel as though them being a black character was a hidden secret or toned down to appeal to others (no shade). It was in my face and proud, even if I didn’t personally resonate with the reader or concept of the story. It still felt good coming from a fandom where I was literally the ONLY black writer in it. Fast forward and I clearly see that now, it’s not welcomed. We could sit here and blame it on non-blk (yt) having the problems but that’s a load of bullshit and the only enemies we have are one another. It’s been other black writers who have littered the tags with discourse abt the same stupid topic to avoid new fics being seen. It’s been other black writers who have switched fandoms when they were no longer the ONLY ones bc coexisting is just too damn hard apparently. It’s been other black authors who have made it blatantly clear that they are only interested in seeing and creating stories that are palatable to other races so they won’t be perceived in a negative light or to be seen as one of the ‘good ones’. Even down to not using black reader tags or avoiding coded language. So much so, they are comfortable laughing at anti-black rhetoric being pushed on other apps so as long as their new favs are not the brunt of the joke.

I’m not here to tell anybody how or what to write. I’m not here to say you ONLY have to like one show but what I am saying is that i will NOT be spending hours and days agonizing over a fic for it to be minimized to a joke for a bitch on TikTok. I will not spend the little free time I have trying to crunch and finish a fic for it not do well but watch y’all pile in my mentions to argue over nonsense. And I won’t sit here and watch y’all purposely try to run other black writers away bc they don’t fit ur aesthetic. Fiction is fiction and whether you resonate with it or not, it’s expression. I’m a boring ass country bumpkin from the middle of nowhere, Florida who’s got social anxiety, chronically ill, neurodivergent and is in bed by 10:00. I don’t smoke, never had sex and I literally never leave the house unless I’m grocery shopping. I never have and never will live the life of any of my characters, even the most tame ones. But I write for EVERY black girl and want everyone of them to be seen. The one space where that seems to be allowed is obviously not welcomed anymore. Arguing and trying to defend ourselves against people who are committed to misunderstanding us is pointless. Minimizing us down to ‘baby mama’, ‘hoodrat’ fics, simply bc you no longer like certain characters (many of which you all were writing for not too long ago) is quite frankly clown and coon ass behavior. Watching y’all become enraged by tropes that are used by ever race, every fandom, etc but turning the blind eye bc it suits ur narrative is fucking hypocritical and laughable at best.

I’m not insecure in my writing. Never have been and never will be. I know I pour everything I have into creating the best work I can and it’s for that reason that I won’t allow it to be treated like trash. I have over 250 drafts in my Google docs and best believe, that’s where they’ll stay until I see fit. Although I know it’ll probably mean leaving the last place I have any sense of community and social interaction in general, it’s not worth coming on here angry everyday in defense mode. Its not worth getting out of my character over and I rather just not be around if it means I have to play mean girl. My mind may change and all of this will just have been me getting shit off my chest but as of right now, this account will be archived come February 28th. Thank you to everybody who’s supported me this far and gave me a safe space. I love all of you so very much and hope that we can enjoy the rest of this month together 🫶🏾 🤍

#cherry chats 🍒 #tw rant #tw discourse #tw long post #happy black history month lmao #writing #fanfic writer