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#alt right pipeline
starlooove · 1 year
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I think the convo around the alt right pipeline is cool and all but too many of y’all are framing it as something you just get sucked into. You don’t just wander down the internet rabbit hole and start hating minorities. That’s an active choice you make at some point.
This applies to your 12 yr old brothers who doesn’t know any better than to call people the n word on COD, This applies to your sister who’s just been so traumatized by men that she HAS to be a terf now, this applies to that one kid you’re friends with who’s just been so bullied and beaten down that they had no other choice but to hate minorities in order to be accepted.
This applies to you, who’s reading through this post and tryna make every kinds excuse you can abt why your situation is different or not as bad as what I’m describing. This is about you who keeps making jokes and think posts about being the “leftist” member of the family and not knowing what to do when you hear ur family members, ESPECIALLY the younger ones being bigoted.
This isn’t some shit you can’t mitigate or control, this isn’t a phase that you just couldn’t help, that was an active choice you made and to pretend otherwise shows that you haven’t grown or changed at all.
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samwisethewitch · 7 months
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TW: This post contains explicit discussions of white supremacy and the alt-right, including mentions of racism and antisemitism.
One of my most impactful recent library reads was Sisters In Hate by Seyward Darby, and I want to take a moment to encourage other white Americans to check it out as we prepare for next years' presidential election and all the shit it's going to kick up.
Sisters In Hate is a book about the role of women in American white supremacist movements and specifically in the alt-right. Darby does a really excellent job of showing just how critical white women are to these hate movements. The book also gives us a detailed look at what radicalization looks like and how that process can be different for different genders.
The book is divided into three sections, each of which follows a real woman through her radicalization into the alt-right. I especially want to draw Tumblr's attention to the story of Ayla, a self-proclaimed "polyamorous, raw foodist-vegan, feminist, pagan" whose radicalization started in college with natural living and homebirth and ended with her running a popular tradwife blog and speaking at the Unite the Right rally.
I think a lot of leftists and liberals feel that we're too smart, or too educated, or too savvy to fall for white supremacist recruitment schemes. We are not. Intelligent, college-educated, left-leaning people are radicalized every day. Some of them are less overtly hateful, like your college friend who starts voting Republican in their 30s. Some of them are like Ayla, and their radicalization takes them all the way to the other end of the political spectrum until they're openly and genuinely calling for a white ethnostate with the same passion they once used to advocate for feminism, racial equity, and queer rights. And we need to remember that any one of us intelligent, college-educated, left-leaning white folks could be in her position, which is why it's so important to learn about radicalization tactics so we can recognize and resist them.
I'm not gonna lie -- this book is hard to read. The text contains racial slurs, white supremacist rhetoric, antisemitism, and anti-Black racism. All of this is condemned by the author, but Darby doesn't shy away from showing just how vile this movement is. I had to take a lot of breaks from this book and read it over several weeks, but I'm very glad I did because I feel like I needed this information.
White supremacist recruitment efforts are going to pick up in the next year, especially if Tr*mp is the Republican nominee for president. Stay informed and stay ready.
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silvermoon424 · 4 months
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Man what is it with the "atheist skeptic to anti-feminist and transphobe" pipeline?
I remember this being bigger news a few years ago, but tons of OG atheist skeptic commentators are now total chuds who hate feminism, trans people, and "the craziness of leftism" in general. I remember watching a good video essay about this a while back that pinpoints the infamous "Elevatorgate" incident" as the starting point.
Now you have to be on edge around every logic-bro who goes on about how women are "scientifically proven" too be too emotional or whatever. Btw, I'm not shitting on skepticism as a whole, I'm just pointing out that it has problem with being dominated by white male voices who have never experienced misogyny, transphobia, racism, etc and therefore think it doesn't exist.
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gncrevan · 2 years
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i find it so fucking fascinating (read: horrifying) how the heard/depp case is being spun into the exact same "the wokelib mainstream media is lying to you" rhetoric that the alt-right uses, that QAnon uses, and somehow this newest group falling for it doesn't see the warning signs. obviously there are plenty people amongst the deppfenders who were already on the conspiracy right, but this whole ordeal seems to have turned into a big fat recruitment tool. if the only news outlets you "can trust" are fox and the daily wire, well that's a problem isn't it?
media criticism is good and necessary especially in the united states, but just separating it into "outlets who agree with me" and "outlets who don't" is myopic and proves bad analysis. yes, the media lies and distorts and covers up, quite frequently in fact, but there are clear trends you can observe (such as more reactionary, conservative or status quo ideas being pushed), and when outlets who have been especially guilty of proven distortion and outright lies (like fox) are being presented to you as "the good ones", that should give you pause. like, a lot of pause.
what we desperately need is better media literacy, the ability to critically evaluate information and intent, the ability to distinguish good from bad science, know when a source isn't reliable, the ability to research and, barring that, the ability to identify the journalists and outlets who do good research. what we got, unfortunately, is the idea that if your in-group believes something, that thing must be true.
and i'm pointing the finger at all of you here too because you constantly fall for that shit and while it's usually about comparably harmless things, it has lead to harassment campaigns in the past. you need to learn how to read sources and do research, or you need to stop sharing hearsay as facts. this is exactly the kind of disinformation culture that has been fostered on tiktok to radicalized teens into mass supporting an abuser and mocking his victim. what is the next step in the funnel towards conspiratorial belief and reactionary talking points?
"oh but people of all walks of life believe this, not just right-wing weirdos" yeah, well, the wellness and new age movements were overwhelmingly not full of right-wingers and now look how many have become QAnon.
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env0writes · 1 month
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Idle Steps 3.19.24 “Wrong Right Turn”
Lace up your boots, boy Crimson and white Wear ‘em to school where you’ll show ‘em who's Right Put up a fight, when the man is little and brown Smile in their face as you force them to frown You’ve got the world, bully, boy, bully boy– you And at the slightest of sleights you will beat them all blue So pull up them boots, laced up tight and up tall! Show the world Rightly, who should beck at your call Take to the streets with your leather, your chains, and your studs Stipe every rules of the Stars with your buds Bigger the crowd grows, camaraderie loose You stand on by as they bring out the noose Small is the feeling inside of your chest Little-boy drummer goes rat-a-tat-tat, trying his best March to their step boy, you’ve laced them up locked No turning back now, the exits are all blocked Don’t say a word, don’t show a sliver of fear Whether you do or you don’t snarl or jeer Whether you lace or unlace those boots The dye won’t wash from your hands, no matter dressed up suits So whilst the world burns around you Riddled with magazine-burst words that slew Look around in the aftermath–at the world you destroy
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We need to talk about how there is an alt-right pipeline that starts in cottagecore. Cause a lot of men end up going down the alt-right pipeline that starts with sexist jokes and stuff but there is the flipside in cottage core let me explain
so cottage core has a lot of cottage living and housework stuff like knitting, crochet, gardening, pickling, canning, cooking, sewing, along with all the nature and field stuff and is also one of the aesthetics with an infamous racism issue making the whole thing generally pretty eurocentric and based in colonialist ideals of cottage life
and the demographic for cottage core overlaps with the demographic for tradwives because it's housework, knitting, crochet, sewing, gardening, cooking, canning with the addition of childcare and cleaning and other more stay at home mom things. And since these demographics overlap there is an algorithmic link between cottage core and tradwives on social media generally. At some point if you're in to cottage core you will come across tradwives the demographics are just very similar, and that's not to say all cottage core supports trad wives cause it def doesn't and there are definitely people who are cottagecore in a much more progressive and radical way there are just also tradwives.
and some of the people who get into cottage core will start following the trad wives and trad wives generally aren't very blatantly alt-right or anything and will often have a lot of posts romanticizing housework in not immediately disagreeable ways without getting into the conservative part. but also a lot of tradwife stuff is generally based in christain values and very very supported by conservatives and sexist values with the whole the woman stays at home nuclear family American dream home type stuff. And all that stuff has the conservative ideologies baked into it and overtime makes it easier to start agreeing with the conservative ideals and severe enforcement of gender norms. and the people in those parts of the internet will become increasingly more of the essential oils type of tradwife cottagecore because that lends itself really well to both aesthetics
and so now these people are more open to conservative values and have probably made friends who are very alt-right and so we have reached the end of the pipeline because once your environment has become one of a specific ideology, especially if it's one known for being as manipulative as alt-right ideologies, that's basically it you'll eventually start agreeing that's kind of how human brains work.
and this isn't everyone of course this is a very easy pipeline to avoid but it is a big one and one that we don't talk about a lot and may be hard to notice since it isn't as blatant as like Andrew Tate videos or whatever Matt Walsh is saying and we should really talk about it more
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tadpoledancer · 1 year
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there's a lot to be said about the political atmosphere of the late 2000s/entirety of the 2010s being infested with alt right gateways like pewdiepie, filthy frank, idubbbz, leafyishere, "sjw gets owned compilation" videos and all that, and there absolutely were adult nazis and other white supremacists grooming children and teens in vulnerable mindsets into thinking they had a community in the right wing, but to say or act like anyone who fell down the alt right pipeline at any point in life are the main victims in this situation is absolving them of any accountability and responsibility for traumatizing minorities
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spacelazarwolf · 2 years
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Hey, Sorry to bother, but i wanted to ask something: my dad said that currently the world Is dominated by a group of jewish families, and that one of them funded Hitler. I know this is antisemitism, but my paranoia needs further reassurements. Do you have any articles or sources that disprove my father's "thesis"? /nf
i’ve been thinking all day about how i want to answer this. i wasn’t sure i even wanted to answer it at all, but i think i need to make this both an educational moment and a boundary setting moment.
i’m going to assume that you’re asking these things in good faith, and i want you to know that my answer is also in good faith and not meant to be an attack but a learning opportunity.
i’m first going to get my own personal feelings out of the way, not because i need to vent but because you need to confront the fact i’m a real, living, breathing jewish person whom you just asked to prove that a genocide of millions of my people, which was painstakingly documented by the people who were committing the genocide, actually happened. this is part of deradicalization, acknowledging that we are human beings just like you. if someone killed your entire family then told you that you were the one who killed them, i assume you would be devastated. take that feeling and multiply it by 6 million. 
there is no one article that is going to prove to your white supremacist father (or to you) that jews did not fund our own genocide. there are several articles online that talk about how to deradicalize family members (i searched “how to deradicalize white supremacist family” and found several articles as well as at least two irl organizations that helps people deradicalize their family from the alt right) but when it comes to yourself, this is my suggestion:
get offline. i know it seems counterintuitive, but it is incredibly easy to fall down the alt right pipeline on just about any social media website or search engine. so i’m going to suggest you go to your local library and ask the librarian for some books about jewish history and judaism, particularly about the holocaust. books written by jews are preferable, such as night by eli wiesel which is a firsthand account. read as many jewish firsthand accounts of the holocaust as you can, look at the photos, if they have any relevant historical recordings watch those too. confront the horrors that happened to us. look at them. face them. read the names of the millions of jews, roma, disabled, and queer people who were murdered. read about their families, their children, their descendants. confront the numbers. 6 million. two out of every three jews who lived in europe. one third of the entire population of jews in the entire world. we still have not recovered our population from this genocide, and our community is still massively traumatized. do not just read one article and call it quits. put in the effort to take on this burden of knowledge and pain.
so now for the boundary setting time, which is for anyone reading this: do not ask me to deradicalize you. i am a disabled queer trans jew living in poverty. i am confronted with the realities of impending fascism every day and with every life decision i make. don’t talk to me. talk to people who look like you who are progressive and willing to help you deradicalize. because i do truly want you to succeed in escaping that pipeline, but i cannot take that burden on myself.
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feminist-fog · 1 year
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I usually don’t respond to people like this because it just gives them what they want but this response just proves how nasty the t*rfism cult is.
i wont address this person directly, but i want to use this as an example. specifically the last part, i dont really care if misogynists think i’m not a feminist when they uphold an ideology that is inherently anti woman.
i did go non contact with t*rf ideology because i don’t want to “peak” again AKA get sucked back into the lies and conspiracies that forced me to deny my true self and led me into a self hating depressed state.
“peaking” is specifically a term i now find interesting. it now makes me think of when normal people go down the qanon rabbit hole and it really is scarily similar. both are rooted in antisemitic anti-science beliefs. how you progressively go up and up and finally you reach the peak of all the beliefs but its all downhill from there.
this person’s bio also said they are a “dysphoric woman” so i feel especially bad since i can relate to them but i was lucky enough to finally escape and accept myself.
(i’m a bit tired so sorry if there are any misspells)
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benis-monkey · 9 months
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Hey so uh- funny story.
I used to be transphobic.
In fact, I used to be very bigoted against many groups.
Note the word USED to be.
Every transphobic thought has been cleanly plucked from my mind about 5 or so years ago.
Thankfully, I never had any confrontations or interactions with trans people while I held these hateful beliefs, so rest assured I have never harmed any trans people.
So I thought I would give some context as to why some hate trans people so much (at least from my memory)
Keep in mind, this was before the whole “groomer” narrative was a thing.
In my experience, two major factors were key in the fostering of transphobia in my mind: isolation and algorithms.
At the time, I didn’t know any trans people. The only look I ever had at trans folks was through a transphobic, hateful lens (e.g “AtTaCk HeLiCoPtEr” memes). So because I never had any interaction with trans people, that opened my interpretation of them to be molded and shaped by whatever entity came first to do so.
Now, algorithms. As I just mentioned, I only ever saw or heard about trans folk through a lens of hate and bigotry. So I only saw the “worst” of the trans community. The notorious “it’s MA’AM” video, which I now realize is a depiction of a trans woman stalwartly asserting her identity, was shared around these hateful spaces online, and was used as a way to say “look at how ridiculous this person is! They’re clearly a man!” …just typing that makes me feel yucky now.
Reactionary content on YouTube was also a major influence. I remember the YouTuber Hunter Avalone being one of the channels I watched the most. And since I kept clicking on transphobic content, YouTube kept recommending it. This led me down the infamous alt-right pipeline. Soon, I was also espousing beliefs that were racist, sexist, islamophobic, and classist. Hell, I even believed that billionaires were good people! But homophobia never made it with me.
I myself am bi/pan, and lean heavily towards men/male-presenting/masculine people, and towards androgynous people.
So seeing the firehose of hateful bigotry being pointed at myself finally snapped me to me senses. Because I knew other non-straight people. I knew they weren’t what the alt-right wanted me to think they were.
Seeing a community that I’m a part of being put under this lens of hate made me realize that it’s the same lens that every other marginalized community is put under. A lens of “different bad. Progress bad.”
I clawed my way out of this hateful pipeline. I expanded my horizons and connected with people in these marginalized groups.
So what I’m saying is, if you know anyone who is falling down this pipeline, arguing with them won’t do anything. The best way to rid them of their hateful bigotry is to show them the true nature of the LGBT community, the POC community, and other marginalized communities. Show them that they’re all just people wanting to live their lives.
The alt-right pipeline is no joke. It’s a dangerous downward spiral that can radicalize someone overnight. If you know someone falling down this pipeline, reach out to them. Invite them to a discord server with people from marginalized groups. Introduce them to your LGBT, POC, and non-Christian friends. Open their world, and their mind will open with it.
The best way to fight fascism and bigotry to teach the fascists and bigots empathy. That the people they hate are just that. People.
If I missed any TWs, please let me know and I’ll add them.
And just know that I no longer hold these hateful beliefs. I acknowledge that the person i was 5 years ago was a hateful, evil person, and I am thankful that my mind was opened.
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gavingwhiz · 1 year
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It is WILD how much anti-furry sentiment there is in the video game Team Fortress 2′s community. Especially given there’s a huge furry presence and always has been. There’s all sorts of ill-informed teens slipping down the right wing pipeline who clutch their pearls about furry = bestiality and getting all up in arms about it.
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If we haven't already we really need to talk explicitly about how a lot of these "super woke" niches of "chronically online" discourse like purity culture and exclusionism are actually tributaries leading straight to the alt right pipeline.
Getting you to apply their methodology to your supposedly leftist politics is step one in getting you to "see the logic" behind their far right ideology.
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XIV as a capitalist is such a surprising idea to me. how did that happen
(CW: trauma discussion, mentioning of programming and grooming, General Warning of Trauma talk cause IDK if this is graphic or not cause I have no sense of reference)
(Also sharing this cause as an anecdote of how a kid ends up being alt right.)
(Also feel free to reply to this post, I dont really consider this as a trauma that bothers me really, reblogs are only off per respect of the rest of the system)
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I was a hardcore capitalists until I realized I was an alter and went "HEY WAIT A MINUTE" like I watched old in day Shapiro (still claim that a lot of that was probably cause hes busting it down and goated with the sauce), Yiannpolis, and Steven Crowder 😂 I was a full fledged radical right winger that said fuck the poor not my fault they buy starbucks everyday 😂
Honestly it comes three fold 1) Our parents are the no brain middle class folk who were deeply convinced that all their struggles came from lazy poor people with no money management skills 2) Our middle sister who was overtly abusive and bullying us since we could talk and intentionally making our parents neglect our needs was a (correct) radical leftist, so a lot of our more aggressive alters that helped combat that ended up being predisposed to being radical right wing as an oppositional thing 3) our older sister who did botched programming and grooming and was the "only safe and caring person in our life" was a hard capitalist that as part of the "oh lets train the alters for specific roles" grilled me from a young age in the principles of capitalism as well as survival and dominance in a capitalistic world at the expense of others and until it clicked that I was an alter (In a System with Trauma and different perspectives / recollection of shit), I never really took a step back to look at the garbage I was fed
Cause Riku when they first realized I was a seperate part (same time I did] they kept calling me Capitalist Riku since for the first week or two I was operating on the shit I knew and constantly spewing self destructive capitalistic brain rot and it always pissed me off "for some reason" to be called that (and caused us to fight A LOT)
And after I got done pissing on the system for two or three weeks I think I tuckered myself out of my trained trauma hole enough to ask myself why I hated being called "Capitistic Riku" and pretty quickly came to the realization it was cause that was identifying me by the abuse and trauma I went through
And then it clicked that I was just regurgitating a list of baseless rules, scripts and ideas that was grilled into me as "the truth of the world" and thats just what my piece of shit sister wanted me to be like and in - I kid you not - one day radicalized to the opposite end and started burning the system down instead as a commie 😂
But honestly, being so heavily grilled in how capitalism works and being grilled into "being good at capitalism", I had enough understanding of how incredibly fucked and broken it is that I didnt need to really be convinced of its atrocities beyond actually looking at what I was reading off of
Well at least thats a lot of the XIV 1.0 origin story which is the part Id still identift as my "main" part considering Ive fused a good many times.
-XIV
(mild NSFW post script below the cut, minors don't look)
(Seriously though in hind sight I genuinely think the only reason I watched Shapiro was cause he was a quirked up white boy and my gay ass was like "totally wanna fuck that twink 👀" and was 100% thinking with my dick.
I dont have that excuse for Crowder and Milo was a kindred spirit at the time)
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thesilentm0nk · 1 year
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I hate the narrative that young boys aren’t at all responsible for becoming alt right and that it’s actually societies fault or the lefts fault for not reaching out and treating them as if they are special and creating a place for these young cis white boys. No one has a responsibility to create a space for them to feel safe and comfortable when the world is made for them and when their alt right views literally take away space from others. fuck that.
can we please start holding teenage boys accountable. They are capable of just as much damage as grown men. To women and young girls, to black people, to trans people, to lesbians and gay men, they are just as much of a threat and a problem as their older counterparts.
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letsgethaunted · 1 year
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Stich with spirithaus.
So glad this is finally being talked about!
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